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old >>5045624 тЖТ
Ricky isn't going to like this...
>>5047563
tbh
nth for garithos did nothing wrong
>>5047563
I'M SO ANGRY
There is literally nothing wrong with being an elf.
>>5047351
>>5047383
>>5047423
>>5047450
Face it, you just want to hate fuck elves for their beauty. If not, you could always become one of us.
Also, orcs are the dirtiest race in existence. You should be ashamed of your affiliation with the sludge-skins.
>>5047581
Now now, there is no need to be bitter and jealous about elves.
>>5047561
plus i don't like them
>>5047581
>THERE IS LITERALLY EVERYTHING WRONG WITH BEING AN ELF.
>>5047539
Yeah, I guess that would be enough of a reason alone
>>5047544
How does it help with Stealth?
>>5047577
cus its a tiny adorable lightning spider
its my favorite unevolved mon i think
>>5047584
elves are racist lanklets. i'd rather spend forvever with an orc than one day with an elf.
>>5047589
I AM JUST ANGRY. ANGRY ABOUT ELVES!
>>5047572
R-Ricky you can add me on skype if you want.
I mean it's not like I want you too, or a-anything..!
Kittustar
>>5047579
You've gone too far elf!
I'd rather die than be one of you.
Also orcs are a proud race, they even join the Legion. You are the ones that are mud.
>>5047581
Preach it sista.
Greenskins alliance tbh.
>>5047549
But I love elves! I played exclusively blood elf in WoW :3
>>5047581
>goblins
You may as well like kobolds
>>5047605
Its just one less dot to connect if people want to look up old info on you.
gord mooorning to yee lasseys
I'm not an elf but a robust dwarven female
>tfw never be an elf
>>5047614
sure thing!
>>5047624
kobolds are fucking cute
Jocelyn get on skype
>>5047635
Caddy, can we skypu? ._.
>>5047630
good morning sheen
>>5047618
GREEN SKINS FOREVER!
>>5047621
>blood elf
why would you not play the best race?
>>5047624
this (>>5047631) tbh.
>>5047622
ouch. that hurt tbh. i just wanted to be angry about fantasy races, not feel.
>>5047636
elves are always sumg as fuck. it angers me to no end.
>>5047630
i know this feel. i look like i just left a city inside a mountain.
>>5047505
For me it took nearly a week to get any response, the second I emailed them and got them two days later
>>5047637
Yeah of course I'm Caddy Oconnor
who /tiefling/ here?
>>5047655
you had me at /horns/
>>5047649
i wish the scourge had cut them down to the point that the amani tribe slaughtered the rest.
forsaken are the best tbh.
>>5047655
tieflings are rad.
>>5047642
But I was playing the best race anon
>>5047649
human is best race
>>5047673
2nd best* tbh fam
>>5047673
forgot to claim puck as my elfu
>>5047649
>>5047673
Gnome is best.
>>5047686
>gnomes
Who Myr, here?
>>5047655
>horns
im in
>>5047666
im sorry for giving you horn dysphoria kit
>>5047696
myr 5 lyfe
my friend wants to fug me, but i dont want to make it awkward in skype calls.
what do?
>>5047691
>i have the facial structure of a dwarf too ;-;
k-keep your feet on the ground
>>5047691
I get to actually be a cute brown girl ;n;
How am I supposed to shave my legs if each strand is sooo thick.
It hurts like hell to go over the stubble.
>>5047700
^w^
>>5047698
I need horns to cover up my shitty hairline tbh
>>5047708
i kinda wanna build one 4real
>>5047714
Me too. I might try something myself
>>5047698
>>5047666
horns are great. they can also have forked tails, hooves, fangs, claws, and other demonic features. depends how close they lie on the demon family tree. ;~;
>tfw never be a qt tiefling girl shunned by everyone but her party
basically like how life is for me now as a trans girl.
>>5047686
I prefer KDE myself.
>>5047706
Shave downward first and do small strikes fam. The first few time will take forever. Use lots of shaving cream too.
>>5047720
>ywn be qt
I know this feel all too well fam . . .
>>5046977
>grimes finds nicole dollanganger
>forces her out of the bedroom to make a studio album
>nicole's music loses all of it's originality and appeal and she becomes a blatant cranberries rip off
lol i've supported nicole financially and otherwise for years and became friends via fb and the whole shabang. her brother and i used to flirt and text each other nonstop. her music sounds pretty much exactly the same and it was the exact finished studio product she was working towards, and she is still very good tbqh. don't be a hater fam
>>5047727
who else /trudemon/ here?
>>5047725
>Chelsea -> Korra
You fucking wish
>feeling pretty happy about how i look today for some reason
>things feel pretty great
>want to resub to an mmo i used to play
>remember ive been gone for so long that i won't have people to play with
you guys ruined my day with all your elezen posting
thanks!
>tfw people break the rurrrus
>>5047732
how is she doing?
>>5047720
Tieflings are so cute qt o///o I might have to get Kira a pair of horns to go with my elf ears.
>>5047727
>wanting to be a rotting corpse
I'll pass
>>5047738
One day! I'm aiming for like 2 years max! I got the brown and I got the muscle sooo I just gotta start hrt soon to maybe get cute!
who /nude/ here?
>>5047698
oh also erin i'm working on a new race for my comic...
right now the placeholder name for them is the dust.
they lived in dreams ever since the beginning of time. and like when human souls were forged it started messing with their way of life because the human mind connects to the soul when they dream... so like when the main god fell to create his empire he had to sleep because he sacrificed his immortality you know? and with his power the dust sort of latched onto that and forced themselves out of his dreams... not sure if they'll make an alliance with him or not but they look pink and smokey and they refer to themselves as we or us all the time. ;~; I think it's pretty cool and a little original. ;~; I'm going to refine it all as I think about it more obviously but it's a pretty good idea imho.
>>5047732
i'm just not a fan of the way her studio album sounds. she lost a lot of the quality. stripped down angels of porn is better. that's just my honest opinion. I give the whole album a light 3.
>>5047727
I havn't seen Mr robot, but I think he was just comparing KDE and gnome, the desktop environments for Linux. (Personally I actually use LXDE)
>>5047749
Niggers are never cute.
>>5047750
too cold.. ._.
you know... usually I don't bother watching the co-optional podcast I only listen to it...
I just made the mistake of watching like the first five minutes and dodger looks tiny compared to tb and jesse cox
I wish I didn't look like a man
>>5047749
>HRT makes people cute
>>5047752
oh also I want to have it so like if people look at them they can see their own dreams in the smoke and maybe be hypnotized or mesmerized by that. ;~; like maybe the image of a dead relative sort of creeping their way out of the fog or maybe a nightmarish monster. ;~;
>>5047739
Is it wow? I'd play with you for the 46 hours left on my sub.
>>5047760
please tell me this is true ;_;
>>5047760
Don't shatter my dreams bae ;_____; I'll just cake on makeup if it dosent
>>5047763
nope its ffxiv.
i do have warlords of draenor but i never even got close to level 100 ;_;
>>5047739
i stopped playing ffxiv too anon
>>5047750
I'm on a bus right now but you're tempting me.
>>5047744
nicole? she's fine, i mean she's been working towards this for a long time. it's not surprising she went this way either since she was selling out of her t-shirts and every "limited edition" product she created and put up for sale within hours lol
>>5047752
idkkk i mean i get what you're saying but it's literally just her voice in her bedroom versus in high quality. the more acoustic version sounds more haunting because of the quality in general but her sound and emotion etc sounds pretty much the same. this is always what happens with tumblr artists tho lol
im gonna get pizza after work hehuehueh
>>5047752
>i'm just not a fan of the way her studio album sounds. she lost a lot of the quality. stripped down angels of porn is better. that's just my honest opinion. I give the whole album a light 3.
i read that in fantano's voice tbh
>>5047755
i never used LXDE. im using OB right now though. used to use XFCE on a chrome book though
>>5047763
>tfw you are too broke to resub for the first month
>>5047779
thats pretty cool ^w^
stop elfposting 2k15
I found a nude picture I took of my body on the day I started HRT (1 month E today) and I'm freaking out (in a good way I think) I might not be completely fucked.
>>5047749
Oh gosh o.o if you keep most of your muscle with hrt, then you will be a perfect Korra cosplayer.
>>5047789
adorable <3
>>5047783
LXDE is super snappy, it's definitely the lightest desktop environment if you're not big on exclusively using a wm. It uses openbox as its wm though, which makes me like it even more.
>>5047752
I mean in general studio will almost always sound more polished and less spontaneous and that makes for a weird transition with a lot of artists.
I don't think it sounds that much like cranberries tbh though, and it doesn't sound that overproduced.
>>5047789
u will do great. looks like ur body was already mad feminine !
>>5047789
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>>5047779
I think it's because I always have a soft spot for bedroom pop and diy artists because it sounds fresh and different with the lo-fi effects and noise.
With her studio album it just sounds like The Cranberries or any other pop or rock outfit with haunting female vocals. Her songwriting is getting better though. I'll give her that. ;~;
Cool that you know her though fam. This is kind of creepy but I actually found her around the same time you did because I remember you talking about owning her album on your tumblr or like ordering the cassette or something???
I used to follow you back when I was an sjw. ;~;
>>5047789
You will be mostly fine on e in the long term.
>>5047780
Having a friend that knows makeup well sounds amazing, I wish I could have picked my friends brain more early on in transition.
>>5047803
Apparently I was on her radar for a while so when I came out she wasn't surprised at all. So far she's the only person that knows and she supports me with alot of stuff like that (she's biscum too) none of your friends know about hair or makeup? D:
>>5047783
Too bad, getting the gold for additional months is so easy. I didn't even hesitate when I wanted to resub for a single day. Played one day, logged in over another two mornings, and I made back almost all of the cost of the wow token.
>>5047793
This web comic is honestly my baby. It's the only thing I've worked on that I can honestly say I'm proud of...
>>5047783
I like fantano a lot tbqh...
>>5047794
the irish accent isn't there and there's not too many quitar riffs but it just has that same quality of feminine haunting vocals. And like the lyrics are intense and the focus of her work just like the cranberries.
>>5047816
One of the friends that I had back in the day was super into makeup, so she helped me with it, but the friends I've kept in touch with aren't super into hair and makeup.
>>5047828
Blaah balls that sucks. do the online tutorials help you at all? When I first started out messing around with it that's what I did :x
>>5047785
yeye. her brother was the typical white boy texting tho which i always found hilarious, pic related
>>5047789
you looked good fam!!
>>5047799
yaaa i mean she'll prob never move away from recording acoustic diy bedroom pop, but if anything i'm more worried about all of her live shows and all that. i feel like that could be really overwhelming since she didn't use to do them as often and a lot of the time she was like going to open mics and funneling fans there rather than like....doing a concert? lol
also i didn't know you ever followed me on tumblr :o ya i own a lot of her stuff. we became friends because she used to set all of her stuff to ~pay what you want~ and like this really low premium and i used to give her way more because i was like YOU DESERVE THIS GIRL!!! lmao. that's pretty much how i met creepyyeha too. that and cause i'm a hoe and she's sold a lot of lingerie pieces to me
>>5047846
thats pretty cute.. is he cute?
>tfw girls keep hitting on me on okc
[DYSPHORIA INTENSIFIES]
>>5047841
It helps a little, I'm still not the best at makeup but I generally only wear minimal makeup. I don't like caking it on, it doesn't fit my personality. o.o
This is it I guess
fuck off elves
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>tfw staring at 2 years worth of things I'm going to have to stab myself with ;-;
>>5047789
Oh wow, your body is really nice for starting out. Mine looks almost exactly like your's, but with slightly bigger hips, after two years of hrt.
>>5047804
Well I hope the look works for you! You will be swimming in fangirls if it does hehe
My nose bled a lot earlier and now I can't keep warm.
>ywn not look like a massive hulking freak of a person from this angle
How do I make myself stop checking instagram
I only went on there to see if my friend w/ the terminally ill father had posted anything concerning (history of s.h. etc.)
>>5047789
>tfw completely fucked
>elf edition
>not erin is a fat fuck edition
>>5047870
what did she do, anon
>>5047873
Be overweight
Cutepost instead of talking about important trans issues
>>5047876
just let her play her video games
>>5047848
it wasn't cute!! he's super tall and handsome but he was constantly like 'what r u wearing ;)))) what would u do if i was there rn ;))) omg i shouldn't say what i'm doing...but u prob knw what it is..' lmfao it was soOoOOOOoO bad
>>5047871
ye imagine you just sat in your move making art and music for years and then someone dragged you out of there and put you in front of hundreds of people constantly! stressful af. she'll prob be fine tho.
>>5047877
What does her being a fat piece of shit have to do with posting here?
Lololoolooo CUTEPOSTING ASCATTARPOSTING ANIME GIRLS
LOLOL
Makes our threads end early
If she just stopped breathing nobody would care tbh
>>5047881
I like guys like that. They're fun to tease. ^w^
>>5047885
I still care. I think about it time to time but it doesn't matter. Just go outside and watch Molas swim.
>>5047885
>Makes our threads end early
lol
our threads never end early.
>>5047849
did you tell them that girls cant love girls?
>tfw my 3 year old nephew loved my teriyaki swai and rice
He would smile and go "mmmmmmmm" and keep trying to get another bite before he even finished the first. Nothing makes me happier than when people like my food, especially when it's young kids.
>>5047890
Molas?
The fuck is a molas?
>>5047824
Shut up bitch
>>5047885
Ban anons! Replace them with more elves!
>>5047897
stop triggering lesgen
they hate us enough already
>>5047900
that is adorable
>tfw nobody likes your food
>>5047885
>tfw anon will never notice your avatarfagging cuteposting and shitpost at you for it
>>5047902
BAN BOTH
HUMAN TRIPFAGS ONLY
>>5047901
Listen, if you're not gonna make any sense just leave and do something creative. God knows I should be doing the same heheueheuehuh\auaehuezheuhz\uehhhh... ._.
>>5047897
i'm a tranny, not a girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bc6dhGHo6M
<3
>>5047902
>posting pics of worst girl in worst game
wow.
>>5047911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx2ioXoLQiU
>>5047906
>HUMAN TRIPFAGS ONLY
guess i'm out
>>5047906
Tell em Bexe!
>>5047900
now you are ready to be a mom tbqh
>>5047902
Is Angie still around?
>>5047769
You stole my original pepe... it said right on the file name not to. How could you do this to me?
>tripfags
>complete cancer nobody likes
>unwarranted self importance
>opinions on someone's progress or appearance based on loyalty among their "friends" even though their "friends" go superior anon to be mean
>anon
>speaks stern and proud
>very honest and not rude about it
>gets a bad rep because of the lack of loyalty and guidelines so focuses on the truth
>>5047905
He also got a kick out of me feeding him with chopsticks. It was the cutest thing.
>>5047920
I wish I could. It's ok though I have 6 nieces and nephews who are my babies.
>>5047900
Omigosh, I can't wait until my nephews are old enough to talk and do adorable toddler things >///<
>>5047906
B-but my people are qt ;-;
>>5047912
Idk what game it is tbh. I just obsessively save elf pics.
>>5047916
>Wakfu is cool anon, give it a watch some time.
That's not wakfu neeeeerd.
>>5047925
Anonimity is important anon, its why I love you tbh... ._.
>>5047886
>>5047915
pic related lol
>>5047909
well since you already had some tissue and stuff you're prob gonna have decent bobs assuming you're intersex!
>>5047863
You're one of my fave posters here *hugs* :3
>>5047932
It's dragon age 3 :/
>>5047941
what happened to one and two?
new heels came, they are too big, I think my feet shrunk
>>5047921
stealing that Hawke tbh.
>>5047924
Caddy I'm sorry it was just too perfect pls forgib me ;-;
>>5047925
>tripfags
>unwarranted self importance
but i hate myself :^)
>>5047932
your people have an unfair genetic advantage over normal respectable species and it needs to be stopped
>>5047929
>He also got a kick out of me feeding him with chopsticks. It was the cutest thing.
hehe
I hope my nieces and nephews remember me with fondness and not as the uncle who was crazy
>>5047956
IT'S WORTHLESS NOW!
Even when I can't see my body I can feel how it's shaped and it makes me sad tbh
>>5047923
she's recovering from major brain surgery
>>5047951
Damn Kayla, you got style
>>5047963
>but i hate myself :^)
people keep saying this half of the time as i think a joke and the other half not so much ;_; am i the only trip who likes themselves? is this why everyone apparently hates me?
>>5047932
It's really great tbh. I got my 4 year old nephew to eat my pickled cucumbers and seaweed and he wolfed down the entire bowl of broccoli and sesame sauce I made last time we had a party. pic related was the sunomono/cucumber seaweed thing
>>5047964
it's weird with my nieces and nephews. The 3 oldest ones, who all belong to my oldest brother knew me before I transed so they aren't too comfortable with me sadly. It breaks my heart at times because I used to be so close with them.
The 3 other ones belong to my other brothers and they all knew me as a girl only so that helps I suppose.
>>5047970
...is that true? You mean she finally had FFS?
>>5047936
i had just a ribcage because i was a skinny piss streak, but I'd like to think they'll grow
>>5047980
nah she cancelled it, it was all a ruse
>>5047984
Last time I was here she was going on about should I get it done or not
I like to keep up with Angie, check she's still alive after the past scares.
>>5047789
Is this really a praise worthy body? She looks like me, her body I mean, and I... I'm so sorry but does it really look feminine? I know I'm being insulting.
>>5047936
kek
Yeah that's pretty much it sadly.
>>5047970
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope it gets better with HRT.
Speaking of, how you feeling?
>>5047988
Considering she's not on e, yes, it's certainly praiseworthy
Look how thin the shoulders are and the nice hips
>>5047937
Omigosh *hugs* I thought I was only kidnapping material to you o.o
>>5047941
I had a hunch, but I still haven't played the game. I need to build a new PC x.x
>>5047957
If I don't actively try to fight it, I have a kinda thick southern accent. Sometimes I use the word "fid'na".
>>5047963
But we also kinda live in the woods. It's not that glamorous.
>>5047978
A toddler who eats veggies? O.o What is this madness!?
>>5047957
3 is as bad as 2 imo. well okay maybe not. but definitely poor
>>5047990
Way to misgender the thread K
>>5047998
3 is a good game, and is basically only overshadowed by the Witcher as far as major big name RPGs go.
Also 2 was nowhere near as bad as the frothing hatemob claimed.
>>5047978
I have two, maybe three nephews who will only remember me as a girl four neices and two nephews who are old enough to remember that I'm a boy.
I also have two older nephews and a niece who are all lovely about it tbqh... I want to be thin enough to wear a nice dress to the wedding of the niece in april
>>5047940
Why are you still here?
>>5047963
Elves and other non-humans are discriminated against everywhere, we will fight the oppressors!
>>5047998
I thought 3 was fairly good, but after a certain point I got really bored of the fetch quests and just finished the main quest as quickly as I could.
>>5048012
keep at it, Sheen.
I love you
>>5047969
:( how about I make up for it with dinner and a movie?
>>5048012
>tfw have a friends wedding to go to in december
>tfw have to go to a suit fitting on sunday
just kill me now fam
>>5048015
Why not
>>5048009
I... I was joking but that sucks.
>>5048021
yeah it does suck
>>5048019
Wear suit, present at the same time. Fuck gender fam.
>>5047996
Nope that's just me memeing I actually do like you as a friend ^-^
>>5048020
You made a big deal about writing your suicide note and made sure everyone knew.
>>5048017
t-thank
>>5048019
this was me at my brothers wedding 2012
and like... every other one of my sibling weddings I was the same... trying to be happy but dying on the inside
>>5048029
lol she wrote a suicide note? thats fucked up.. ._.
>>5048036
the real joke is when someone goes as far to do so..
>>5048033
>>5048036
Cry harder big baby.
>>5048037
I refuse to go to weddings or funerals.
>>5048029
And then i told everyone I'm too scared to do it
cute or not cute
>>5048048
Like you're too scared to tell Anna that you dream of fucking her up the ass?
>>5047996
It's amazing what you can do when you flavor things all tasty-like for them and make it colorful/pretty. I had the sunomono sprinkled with some sesame seeds and some slices of ginger root placed on the top (not to eat, but to further flavor the vinegar soy sauce thing and make it look pretty).
>>5048012
d'aww that's so sweet. You can do it baby!! Just keep working at the weight loss.
>>5048046
Why? That's almost the only time that families ever are in the same room.
>>5048048
>scared of living
>scared of death
which is it, oddish? ._.
>>5048048
Please don't do it.
I like you
>>5048046
>I refuse to leave the house except for HRT and drugs
Gonna get wasted 2nite fam? Ambien? Booze?
>checking bank account
>more money than I thought
>turns out I got payed normally during the holidays
W-was I supposed to go in...? I don't want to be fired
>>5048051
A little frumpy :<
>>5048052
D-Did I miss some thing??
>>5048052
Shit just got real.
>>5048046
good idea
>>5048064
oversized tops are cute though
>>5048060
Yea, you're right. I should just kill myself next time I feel bad instead of crying in front of someone to help feel better knowing people can care if you know them well enugh irl ... ._.
6 months in and I still get sir'd heavily
>tfw forever sir'd
>>5048066
Oddish lying and bullying people because senpai wont notice her.
>>5048073
They are generally, but this one isnt :<
It's too loud
>>5048051
only if you're small and it's massively oversized
>>5048081
Nothing new then.
>>5048084
Do you even know yourself well enough? Just walk somewhere and watch a tree rustle in the wind. I made a video today of a butterfly flapping its wings while resting on a poster its super cute! ^_^
>>5048103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc8bzl6dqQI
classic
>>5048081
Anna? But Anna notices everyone
>>5048111
Or processed and recycled. Everything has value and a purpose it can serve.
>>5048084
What happened to you drinking bleach?
O wait you were faking it for attention
>>5048114
I'd like to take all the drama and bad feels in this thread and recycle them to make teddy bears.
>>5048123
Eh. Most the shit in the charity shops gets sent to Africa. Probably landfills
>>5048120
Who the fuck are you?
>>5048053
I'll have to remember that. I'll be living with one of my brothers and my nephews soonish, so I'm probably gonna end up cooking a lot for them.
>>5048028
Oh wow ^-^ I feel special!
>>5048125
me on the left tbh
After months of not visiting, I come back to the mtfg only to see the same bitchfest.
Never change, girls.
>>5048120
You seem mad
>>5048130
Cool. So hows Dota?
>>5048123
Doesn't Anna have a girlfriend?
>>5048130
You're lying right now.
FOREVER HON ;_;
>>5048135
this tbqh
>>5048062
>>; where do you work??
>>5048142
If you're not over 50 I'm going to kill you
>>5048142
>tfw 18 and hon
>>5048149
well I look 50
>>5048146
Congratulations you're a piece of shit on the internet. Are we supposed to be intimidated by your sperging?
>>5048148
I tutor a class at uni
>>5048155
Hey, thank you for sticking up for me, but please dont get into fights and stuff. I'm already shitting up the thread enough anyway.
>>5048153
that sucks.. haven't played vidya in a while either.. ._.
>>5048153
Stop acting like a baby trying to deny your lies.
Does anyone know any good games you can play one handed on an android tablet? Free or paid doesn't matter since I have a bunch of credit to blow.
>>5048155
Aife you look like an 80s rockstar kill yourself
>>5048162
Hons have to stick together.
>>5048170
tetris is good. pacman... hmm.. soccer physics..
>>5048169
Prove me wrong bitch
>>5048162
You can always stop posting
Nobody ever really liked your posts anyway you fucking geek
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