The Division
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So, gripes about the game itself aside.
How would you rank the Division itself in terms of other military forces? Granted the intended role they seem to fill is very specific and I guess they would have much better knowledge on their location vs. sending in a special unit.
>>29288681
I actually really like the game. It's fun to get on with some friends or even play with randoms.
I don't think you really could rank The Division against actual military forces 2bh though. But the game is fun aside from a few bugs.
>>29288681
>hurr durr old government collapsed and everyone is able to own guns and do shit
>HEY LET'S TRY TO REBUILD THE OLD GOVERNMENT AND BRING BACK TIGHT GUN CONTROL FUCK THOSE EVIL PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH US THEN THEY ARE THE ENEMIES
fuck that anti-gun, BLM pro, Feminist pro, government shilling politically correct shit game!
At least the last of use show us what the government would ACTUALLY do which is inforce shit and take our fun shit away and shoot us if were not good little slaves then.
Also Ubisoft is shit and is forever shit.
>>29288748
Goddamn this a whole lot of this
Especially the assassin creed with it's TL,DR
>dah Christian white man is EVIL!!!
>let's promite PRO ATHEISM AND PRO MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY OF COLORS FUCK THE CHRISTIANS AND THE WHITES DEY EVIL WE DINDU NUFFIN WE IS GUD BOIS!
>>29288748
>>29288755
what?
I haven't gotten that far, but where did the game indicate the case for tighter gun control?
If anything, it shows how fucked the people with no guns and alone are vs. people with guns and in a group.
>>29288776
It's brandishing that the "gun owners" those with guns are evil monsters that would do horrible things meanwhile the "anti-gun people" those without guns are innocent people that supports those and sees those with authority and a badge as worthy of such a weapon and those that do have guns consider it a "privilege" and not a "right"
It's also made by Ubisoft which is known for criticism alot.
>>29288817
I think you're creating that situation in your own head then attributing it to the game.
Game has a Mosin and a Model 586 so that's good too me.
>New York City
>packed with full giggle switch AUGs, UZIs, Saiga 12s, and L86s in every apartment
>This is what liberals actually believe
>>29288847
It's a video game you autist
Flower pots don't also contain rupees, christ
>>29288817
>those with guns are evil monsters that would do horrible things meanwhile
you mean the opportunists, desperate people, and criminals that took over the city?
>meanwhile the "anti-gun people" those without guns are innocent people
You mean the people not able to get their hands on a gun or just don't want to get into all of that?
>supports those and sees those with authority and a badge as worthy of such a weapon and those that do have guns consider it a "privilege" and not a "right"
Well, what are they supposed to do?
>>29288755
It pisses me off how much Ass Creed has become politically correct revisionism. Not only that, but they somehow manage to fuck up the gameplay even more with every sequel.
Posting this review for shits and giggles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zswJ7rnmQms
>>29288857
It's a Tom Clancey game shitdick. It's supposed to be a realistic game. Sorry you were born in 1998 and don't know what good video games are.
>>29288830
No it's perfectly clear on what the the goal in the game is
>bring back government and orders
>help those that are either oart of some police station, fire station or other places that is or would be considered a "government" building
Kill those evil badguys that just so happens to have guns while the innocent ones don't have guns meanwhile those that do have guns and are good guys have history of military, police or any other force or just got the privilege to use guns
It's perfectly shown through trailers hell it even says in one of the trailers the "heros" are trying to bring back control snd order
Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with me but it's right there especially with the assassin creeds they been shitting out just
>>29288857
Couldve been such a better game IMO if it was more "realism" based -- almost everything semi auto, bolt rifles and pistols 80% of the guns, few shots to kill... I just feel they made it appeal to the COD market with deployable sentry guns and shields etc.
>>29288847
I agree on the AUGs UZIs and other foreign uncommon firearms, but
1) It does sort of make sense that JTF lost caches of weapons during the whole thing.
2)It'd be kind of a boring GAME if all you find are standard US issued weapons.
>>29288875
well yeah that's the whole premise of the game. Government break down, people with guns going nuts shitting on everyone, special forces guys trying to reestablish control.
It's subtle, but it's definitely a clear message about their views on government.
>>29288874
>It's supposed to be a realistic game.
>It's a Tom Clancey game
>Tom Clancey
>supposed to be realistic
Yeah gosh Blacklist where you survive waves of terrorists attacking you when your health recharges was so realistic I could feel the bullet wounds myself
>>29288868
I'm pointing out that it is a political correct game just like the assassin creed series
Ubisoft went full political correct on their production
>>29288890
Got a source on the comic that from?
>>29288889
>It's subtle, but it's definitely a clear message about their views on government.
You're just paranoid. That's why it's "subtle".
>>29288890
>not playing Blacklist the way God intended, on Perfectionist difficulty.
It's like you're looking for things to complain about.
>>29288904
>It's like you're looking for things to complain about.
You're the blackest fucking pot talking to the kettle
>>29288875
So you're for anarchy?
>>29288817
You're projecting so hard right now it's incredible.
>>29288890
>>29288904
Oh God...
Play the original rainbow six ghost recon and splineter cell games. I bet you fucking children would ragequit on the tutorial missions
>>29288875
>It's perfectly shown through trailers hell it even says in one of the trailers the "heros" are trying to bring back control and order
Gosh what a fucking conspiracy
>>29288889
And when has the government ever showed us they can be trusted and would never take that as an advantage to make a tighter gun controlled society?
Never just look at Europe, China, Japan, Australia and the rest of other countries with big government with "control and orders"
The game is showing that the gun owners are just evil people and those that are good guys with guns are the authoritative figures that is there to help bring the government control and order
If your not seeing the picture then please stop reading liberal books from the school building because it's hurting your I.Q. levels
>>29288895
>it is a political correct game
>pandemic happens
>society breaks down
>government tries to do something about it
This is politically correct?
>>29288817
>It's brandishing that the "gun owners" those with guns are evil monsters that would do horrible things meanwhile the "anti-gun people" those without guns are innocent people
Fucking hell the projection is insane.
So in your head, anyone in a videogame with a gun is simply a law-abiding gun owner being cast in a bad light by the Socialist Tumblr video game industry?
Get a fucking life mate.
>>29288911
>>29288917
>>29288922
And ladies and gentlemen the "sensible gun control law" supporters and government supporters are here
>>29288926
The fact that you can't see how hard you're projecting on an amazingly mundane video game plotline is scary.
>>29288935
Hello, /pol/
Would you like to know how I can tell?
>>29288935
>Anyone who doesn't only play anarchists in video games is an anti-gun statist.
This is how stupid you are.
>>29288930
At least in the last of us it didn't try shoving the "dah govbament is dah gud bois and dah armeh is dah good bois u don't need dat scawry wifle" shit down on you in the story
It showed a perfect picture that the government would fuck you hard behind you and take the advantage of the situation
Haven't you ever heard hurricane Katrina?!
>>29288681
I was hyped for it when it was announced in 2013, then lost interest when I saw it was more RPG than shooter. I then tried the betas and had a hell of a lot of fun. I put 28 hours into the two betas and have about 65 hours into the launch game so far, safe to say I have a problem :p
It's a great game to play with friends.
>>29288748
What the fuck are you even talking about? Also, Ubisoft has different studios, some of which are shit. This studio happens to be Massive Entertainment which brought us one of the most /k/ games of all time, World in Conflict.
Unfortunately they had to attach TC's name to this. This is a near-future WROL RPG 3rd person looter shooter, and should not be put in the same category as R6 and GR. Side note, R6 Siege was awful and it still irks me that they called it a R6 game. It's Battle of Duty: Strike.
>>29288953
It's a video game where the characters are in a government agency.
Same as Splinter Cell.
Same as Ghost Recon.
Same as fucking Mass Effect.
You're absolutely loopy.
>>29288937
>>29288948
>>29288952
It's fucking Ubisoft
You know the company that makes assassin creed games that paints the Christian white males as "bad guys" while the atheist multicultural people are the "good guys"
the fact your defending Ubisoft is quite sad
>>29288748
>>29288817
>>29288875
>>29288926
You must be absolutely exhausted creating issues where none exist. Do you do this with everything?
>>29288926
You realize that you were born as a product of "control and order"?
You are typing on a machine through a digital network that are products of a big government ruled society.
You survived those 17 years from nourishment and security from "control & order".
Maybe you should do something about it? Or you can always just quit the game.
>>29288968
>Anyone who doesn't only play anarchists in video games is an anti-gun statist.
This is how stupid you are.
The game studio doesn't make this less true.
God damn, you're also whining about the original Assassins Creed? You're so offended that the enemies were white crusaders when you're playing as a member of an Islamic sect? Guess who they were fighting, you sensitive bitch.
>>29288953
Alright, dude. Take a deep breath. It's a shooter. A shooter requires people who will shoot back at you. A lot of the people who will shoot back at you are
a) Scumbag career criminals with looted guns who do legit evil shit to innocent people.
b) Scumfuck PMC operators who are playing bannana republic in downtown Manhattan
c)Scary, life-hating motherfuckers with flamethrowers.
As for the unarmed innocents that you have to protect from them? It's fucking New York. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a gun in New York?
>>29288968
I have no idea where you're getting any of this bullshit.
>>29288972
>>29288979
At least I don't go defending such a shit game from a now shit Ubisoft
In the oast Ubisoft was alright but it turn to shit with the "political correct" games
How the fuck do you not see the fucking message?
>>29288948
I'm going with the use of the term "politically correct" as a general insult when it clearly doesn't apply.
>>29288953
That's because the Last of Us took place decades after complete social collapse.
The Division is only a few weeks after the outbreak.
So I really don't see how you can't see the difference. But then again, you do have some mental issues. But you'll never acknowledge that because then it'd be you, and not everything else that is the problem.
>ITT government, Liberal and sensible gun control shills
>>29288988
Oh this is beyond the game darling, this is picking apart your retarded idea that anything that even dares to present a government employee in anything but a bad light must be anti-gun propaganda.
>>29288996
Then tell me how in hurricane Katrina it was okay for them to disarm those people?
It's the same shit in the division except made different so the "government" are seen as the good guys and the"gun owners" are the bad guys
>/v/
>/pol/
>>29288988
I always feel some sort of pity for people whose brains have gone into overdrive in some aspects with no brakes.
Then again, I guess you probably think you're 100% on to something, so at least you're not consciously trapped in a non-responding body.
>This Ubisoft game supports gun control!
>Why?
>You play as a government agent!
The one Anon in this thread really needs to take a step back and evaluate their life.
>>29289012
Is that all you can bring up to this debate is just insults and "brain damage" jokes?
See people like you are nothing more but just insulting that refuse to back up their claims besides insults
>>29289009
Define "gun owners" for me. I'm curious to know what you think it means.
>>29288748
from zero to full retard in record speed
>>29288990
Close but no cigar. Its the fact that they're making assumptions about people's political ideology based solely upon the fact that they disagree with them. Case in point >>29289001
They immediately assume that Diane Feinstein laid eggs in our chest when we call them on their insane bullshit and that we support gun control.
On fucking /k/. That's an immediate tip-off that they're not from around here.
>>29288935
>>29288926
>In this fictional universe the enemies have guns, and I also have guns! I also work for a government agency!
>That's because it's a shooter, and in the game brand all the characters work for different parts of the US military.
>NO IT'S BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO KILL ALL LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS
>Ubisoft went full political correct on their games
>NU UH DEY GUD GAMES!
>assassin creeds paints Christian bad and atheism good and multiple culture good
>HURR YUR JUST MAD CUZ ITS A GUD GAME!
>the division gives the image view on those with guns as bad and those without guns are innocent and those good with guns are the authorities
>YUR JUST A PARANOID FREAK HOW DARE U INSULT MAH GAME DURR!!!
>government throughout history have shown they can't be fully trusted and perfect example of this is just look at Australia
>U ANARCHISTS
Wow I'm so amazed by your stupidity it's not even funny anymore.
>>29289018
You want me to argue with someone whose evidence are only things they personally perceive?
Well, here goes:
The government, as depicted in The Division, are acting like a worried overbearing mother, who would do subtle shit to big outlandish shit (like planting sleeper agents to blocking off a whole city). The innocent people with no guns represent the innocence of that mother's child, they are defenseless and bullied by the people with guns. The people with guns represents >>29289018, who try and push their domination over the innocent.
In a phallic demonstration of the gun and no-gun people, The Division is Ubisoft's attempt at trying to depict your mother worryingly trying to stop you from fucking yourself with a glowing dildo.
Prove me wrong.
>>29289049
Lose the insults and you got an actual debate otherwise your just gonna get the same response in return
Also you still haven't answered my question about hurricane Katrina and the confiscation that went over there.
>>29288920
you're missing the point, dipshit. tom clancy games haven't been 'realistic' for years. its just ubisoft's label for tactical shooter games now.
>>29289055
HAHAHAHA
>I have no argument so I'd better drag this out as long as I can by demanding they speak on MY terms about this bullshit
>>29289055
I'm not insulting you.
Why are you questioning my evidence? Don't you see the message Ubisoft is trying to send out?
>>29289061
Again avoiding the question proves your nothing but a shilling fucking idiot
I wish antman was here to end this political debate already
It's just a game would you two stop bitching already fuck
>>29289070
Yes, meanwhile you're a powerhouse of retarded opinions, ranting at perceived oppressors and spelling mistakes.
Might I remind you this is all about a video game story? That's probably the most pathetic part of your ire.
>>29289055
Not that guy. But I was in Hurricane Katrina. The confiscations that did happen were not a part of policy and they were carried out by members of the National Guard acting at the behest of the Governor and the NOPD who were hilariously incompetent and crooked. Seriously, if I didn't laugh, I'd cry.
They were never a part of national policy and were not carried out by active-duty US military acting under a federal charter but part time forces under a state charter at the behest of an asshat democrat retard who couldn't even get the buses running. Our priority was medical service, search and rescue and evacuation. Those of you who think that there was some Jade Helm-esque conspiracy SERIOUSLY overestimate the competence of the US government.
the gun customization is kinda funny
>>29289018
Where are the back ups for your claims?
Are the bad guys in Division presented as law-abiding civilians that the government is fighting?
Are you tasked with confiscating weapons?
>>29289087
>Sniper nugget in an archangel stock
Oh, I am laffin
>>29289079
Jesus you really are one of those "types"
Here is your fedora and your trench coat you deprived, question avoiding, shilling dumbass
Don't let the door hit your fatass unless you need a bigger doorframe
>>29289096
>Anyone who doesn't think that playing a government agent in a video game is a massive propaganda effort for anti-gun confiscation is a gun hating communist
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS TO AVOID YOU SPAZ. YOU'RE JUST AN IDIOT.
>>29289096
M8, I really wouldn't think I was in a position to talk down to others if I were so paranoid and aggressive over a god damn mediocre online shooter.
>>29289096
Please never stop posting this is super funny.
>>29288920
I oper8 hard in this game.
It's a shit game with shit damage mechanics and to top it off it has a political correct crao within the game that is right there in broad daylight unless you don't know what that is because you never left the basement
>>29288889
>people with guns going nuts shitting on everyone, special forces guys trying to reestablish control.
what? you are going to shoot dindus, freaked-out trash officials, convicts and hired guns, so what are you talking about?
>>29289127
>unless you don't know what that is because you never left the basement
honestly i think its the other way around. only people who spend all their time on 4chan seem to freak out over what they believe is an sjw/liberal/antigun/muslim/whatever/pol/hates agenda
>>29289127
Brah... they're not some fudd with a .243 so he can hunt his durr and his burr. They're psycho garbagemen, the population of Riker's Island and Rogue PMC operators. This is an SHTF scenario about putting the world back together again. Nothing more.
>>29289148
Knowing you have yet to answer my question proves that you are avoiding the main issue of the topic
At least >>29289085 answered my question with actual words instead of "hurr durr yur an idiot lol!"
>>29288963
And those are shitty games.
Wow what a surprise.
When did /k/ start trusting the government and when did you grow out of video games.
>I was 16 when I got bored of games.
>>29289192
This guy >>29289085 again. In addition to all of that, you are also a mouthbreathing retard who should STFU.
>>29289202
When have we not liked Operator as fuck games about Operators operating operationally? Do you not remember the epic Arma and Metro threads that we used to have on h-
>/pol/
Oh. Right.
>>29289213
Tripfags are less retarded than you by your posts
Go read a book that isn't funded by your government agency
You would actually learn something besides the mindset that the government is this trusting entity
>>29289235
Antman was more retarded tham the typical tripfag
>>29289235
>Go read a book that isn't funded by your government agency
I was there.
>You would actually learn something besides the mindset that the government is this trusting entity
Its like you're just repeating the same thing over and over again. I distrust the government, just not in the same way that you do. I don't think they can or ever will do shit right.
There you go accusing me of holding beliefs based upon zero evidence.
Look man, as far as Ubisoft goes, I think with the AC games (even though I still love the games) they let their libtard power level show, especially when they made that dude in syndicate a transvestite when there is nothing in written history that even alludes to that, and that Karl Marx bullshit as well. But that's my opinion on it.
As far as your arguments about the decision, if that's the way you see it, then nobody can tell you otherwise.
The way I see it is like this:
>the bad guys have guns
>if they didn't shoot back, it wouldn't be fun to shoot them (it's a game remember)
>you play as a government agent because it makes for a story, it would be no different if you were just some random civvie that banded together with other civvies to try achieving similar ends.
>games are meant to be entertaining, so to make it fun they are meant to be a bit unrealistic, and have a challenging yet enjoyable dynamic balance, yet they must also have a story so the player can get the immersion effect
I won't continue with the green text but you get the idea. The other thing with playing as a government agent is that a lot of people view firemen/soldiers/police/etc as heroes, doing their job for the good of the country and its people. This makes it easier for the player to see themselves as the hero doing the "right thing."
I dunno man, I just can't see what you see in it, but I did try.
But your examples about how the Australian government took our guns (and with it our freedom) away, are bullshit dude. John Howard acted quickly to do what he thought would be best to combat the situation and so took away the fun stuff. I'm sure lots of people think it was false flag conspiracy, and maybe it was, but it's seriously not difficult to get your gun licence here. I own several, and yeah it sucks we can't own the same shit as the yanks, and I wish we could, but I'm not a slave just because I don't own automatic weapons. Which you still can, btw, you just need a reason.
>>29289228
Why do you post pol? Seriously this is tumblr instead of asking why I don't like video games you insult me by saying pol
Formulat an argument that makes sense and is mud flinging and name calling like children.
I am not pol I don't like video games I have played arms it was nice but I'm not buying the game and a 800$ computer.
I'd rather spend that on ammo and a range trip.
Why must you anon constantly name call it doesn't give your argument weight it makes all the people in this thread look really young and immature.
This place is tumblr and I never been.
>>29289045
So basically what you're saying is that games are intrinsically propaganda.
Because the good guy in AC1 is middle Eastern and the bad guys are crusader's Ubisoft ate actually projecting their values?
So is Super Mario an attempt by Nintendo to promote Italian plumbing and the evils of turtles, small furry things and pipes? Shit, I never noticed, thanks for opening my eyes.
>>29289249
I am pointing out that Ubisoft is a liberal company that shills for government and everyone is going full "nope it isn't" and calling me a paranoid idiot about it
It just goes to show that the young minds are absolutely degrading at a fast rate also your own government confiscated your guns and your rights because they don't want Australia to have the same fun as the United States has
There is no good in what your government did mate
>>29289262
>This place is tumblr and I never been.
>Immediately accusing the thread of being tumblr
>Knowing that that term carries certain political connotations.
Yup. /pol/tard.
>>29289087
Yeah I love the game but some of the guns are bubba as fuck.
Kinda funny tho.
>>29289262
Dude, you have some issues. You focus on the "Well what about KATRINA!!?!??" Thing when it absolutely not important to anything that they or you have said. Also if you think $800 is a lot of money (not to mention for a computer)... Well you might just be out of touch.
I love these threads
>>29289249
Unfortunately firearms seem to be the only important aspect of the 'muh freedom/muh tyrannical government' schtick.
Fine, weapons are a part of your constitution but you get the feeling that the government could force everyone to wear anti-masturbation bracelets and toilet cams broadcasting directly to the cloud if they just brought back full autos, got rid of waiting periods, abolished magazine caps etc
>>29289279
>dun is a right
>the us government is 'liberal'
>companies are automatically 'shills' if in your eyes they happen to have the same values that you percieve the government to have
Eurgh, along with 'cuck' and pretty much the name of pretty much any political ideology, i don't think many people know what a shill is.
Its shit in the same way that BF hardline was shit. Hardline could have been a great asymetrical team shooter (like payday with both teams playable and actual tactics), but because of the devs unwillingness to fully commit to the setting, we ended up with rpgs in every van and full auto guns everywhere, resulting in a watered down BF4 when BF4 was still fresh. I feel the same is true of the division, where they could have had freeform clan wars and genuine anarchy like EVE online used to be, but instead they pussied out and its all restricted to the dark zone and even then, pvp isn't fun.
>>29288926
So how does it say that there should be gun control? The same argument could be said that if more people had weapons and weren't scared to fight, the world wouldn't have gone to shit for so long and so quickly.
>>29289279
I literally tried to be open minded with you, and instead of at least going with it to get me on your side, you prove to everyone in this thread exactly what kind of person you are.
You think that freedom = guns. Australia never lost its freedom by having to hand in certain types of weapons (you must've confused is with the U.K.). You are paranoid as fuck also. Seriously, it's a fucking video game, it won't change anybody's opinion of gun owners. You are literally a gun fanboy. You're like a weeb who actually thinks that his drawn up waifu loves him and there's nothing wrong with it. You let guns define you, right down to your political ideology.
That's pretty weak, mate. People like you are used as examples of what pro-gun Americans by anti-gunners over here, and you think nothing of it. You literally think that you are making a stand against the establishment's motives (which, in this case, do not exist) when you are not only a parody of yourself and everything you try to stand for, but you are also harming your own cause, simply by existing with your current mindset.
I honestly hope this is bait, and if so you've done very well.
We're all pro-gun here, but fuck me mate, you've gotta draw the line somewhere.
>>29288920
The first couple splinter cell games were pretty god damned unforgiving. I couldn't get into any of them after the third; they look like uncharted or something.
>>29289304
I this is exactly what I was getting at. Everyone thinks we got "cucked" when we had to hand in semi-autos, and that we can't own guns and that means we have no freedom. I worry about these cunts sometimes.
>>29289001
>playing a game where you fight BLM protestors, escaped convicts, trash men who burn people alive because they might have a cold, and a PMC who wants to take over the city means you want gun control.
I'd tell you to see a doctor, but you probably have some ridiculous reason as to why you won't do that
>>29289096
So then what's your idea of a good game?
Since obviously anything containing a scenario where you play anyone who works for the government in any capacity is out, I'd love to hear it.
The game sucks. It's like a slow-motion replay of the Watch Dogs titanic.
>combat is lower-lethality and not that complex to begin with
>instanced
>even the most basic shit like cheat engine works in this game, and it's been discussed in beta
Another Ubisoft turd. I stole accounts with it and I don't even want to play it.
>>29289413
There is literally a boss fight against a black chick who is an escaped convict who spouts BLM stuff at you the entire time. I'm amazed nobody is outraged and lighting up the internet about that tbqh.
>>29289325
*fun
>>29289469
i was too busy shooting to actually hear what she was saying. and in all her audiologs and videos shes pretty much showcased as a crazy murderer. im sorry that you're so far gone that any time a black person talks you think they're a BLM activist.
>>29289009
innocetn citizens sometimes give you weapons when you provide them with food. This proves that innocents have guns too and do not get shot because they are for self defense. Its not antigun game.
>>29289396
Really ought to be focusing on the ahady foreign policy and pretty same-y political parties in the US. Honestly the political system is fucked and the country is too large for it work, but who cares as long they don't touch guns.
>>29288917
>>29288932
im not involved in the argument as ive never played the games, but the way you're using "projection" is incorrect and makes me want to smack you
This thread is a perfect example of why /v/ and /pol/ are such cesspool boards.
Anyway, I'm enjoying The Division. We should get some Kommandos together and hunt looters.
>>29289569
Agent Anon is right.
We should focus on the real problem here:
Cleaners. Fucking fire-spewing asthmatic incinerating bubba'd AK/flammenwerfer faggots.
been playing the game since I got it on Saturday and to be honest it's the first game to really grab me in a long time though there are some problems with it.
>Bugs with the Echos
>I just bought a purple lvl 23 SOCOM SCAR-L just opened a random crate and theres a LVL 22 green classic AK with better stats....
>FUCKING DARK ZONE PRICKS!
but I really enjoy the setting, watching social order collapse and trying to glue the pieces back together gets me hard. as for anything political.
>Rikers= Criminals who get a chance to enjoy freedom just return to the city reak havoc and harm people lead by a "The world owes me" Proud Black Woman.
>Rioters/Looters= they look like the upstanding members of socially you'd find at a BLM Rally
>JTF= Government lackeys who make a bad situation worse.
> NYPD=Noble heroes who are better at operating in the city than the ARMY
> LMB. PMC fucks who are protecting the 1%s shikels while the world around them falls
in closing you can make it anything you want but this game does have a libertarian edge to it. while ASS CREED has gone full libtard this is Ubisoft basically venting about the fucked up situation the modern world has put us in.
>>29289593
You mean the true heroes of this game. JOE FARRO LIVES!!!!
>>29288681
>liberal covert ops yuppies vs the white trash rednecks: the game
>>29289673
Anarchist
>>29289673
I hate those white trash rednecks in NYC so god damned much
>>29289593
The cleaners are doing the right thing. Burn it all down. Fuck New York. Any red blooded patriot would be happy to see that rat hole in flames.
>>29289706
I know right? With their Brownstone walk ups and gluten-free bagels.
Can I play this game completely single player / offline?
>>29289766
Yeah. It will make the story missions more challenging/infuriating though.
>>29288817
Yep, thats why most of the enemies dress like fucking gangbangers. Then you have LITERAL FUCKING PRISONERS. And then a rouge PMC and Division Agents. I have a feeling you haven't even played the game and are literally just grasping at straws and making assumptions.
>>29289488
Oh she's a crazy murderer, but she does yell BLM stuff during that fight. The thing is you actually have to be close to her, which you won't be because why be close to a boss.
Man, I hope they make a sequel set Innawoods. That's all I want.
>>29288870
>>29288755
>>dah Christian white man is EVIL!!!
>ignoring that the Templars in assassin's creed aren't even christian, or white
>ignoring that there's been conspiracy theories about the templars being a crazy eon-spanning secret organization for a very very long time
Shit, I don't even love the series, I just bought the one where you play a fucking pirate (because you get to sail around being a pirate!), but even I know your head is up your ass.
>>29289866
Black Flag is easily the best game in the franchise because the main character isn't an edgelord assassin. He's just a salty pirate hunting for booty.
>>29289413
>I'd tell you to see a doctor, but you probably have some ridiculous reason as to why you won't do that
He's afraid the Death Panels would get him.
>>29290009
Sensible gun law supporting millennial detected
>>29288748
Face it, when society collapses, there will always be movements to restore versions of it.
We're not going to have this happy anarchist utopia.
Even "Walking Dead" brought back civilization eventually.
>>29290634
In fact, if society collapsed, I would immediately attempt to create a functional city-state in the closest large urban area I could get to. I would secure all the food, water, medicine and weapons needed to make this possible.
>>29289808
Don't forget to mention the Division Agents go rogue and kill each other.
That's a pretty shitty run organization right there.
>>29288748
/pol/ here, are you fucking autistic?
>>29288681
Played the beta, it was fun. Not 60 dollars fun, but fun - more like 15 dollars fun.
>>29290466
>implying you have to be a millenial to know that "death panel" fearmongering was a load of bullshit
>>29289727
The Cleaners are traitors to the species, insanely reducing the human population when we need as much humans alive as possible.
![must-not-fap_o_411611[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Bsueem4.jpg "must-not-fap_o_411611[1].jpg")
>>29290688
>tfw even /pol/ thinks he's an idiot
Must... not... agree... with.. cancer that's killing /k/!
>>29288681
10/10 game desu
this thread is pure AIDS
>>29288920
i have never played the first rainbow six. every single time i have tried to play the fucking thing, on PC or console, the fucking game refuses to work.
any console, any pc. i just said fuck it.
>>29290757
I'd play "Rogue Spear", but I can't convert it to the new Windows. Sad.
>>29288748
>>29288755
God damn I hate stupid people
>>29288987
>Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a gun in New York
not dude, but i know legally its a fucking nightmare. illegally is pretty easy, just pricey as fuck, and you have to deal with some shitbird to get one.
>>29288817
You're literally making shit up
>>29288874
Autist described you perfectly
>>29288875
You spend way too much time on /k/
>>29288880
This game is made to be a RPG first, shooter second
>>29288953
You are indeed a stupid shit stain
The strongest faction you fight against are rogue first wave Division agents.
The same fucking branch your character is from.
>>29288681
Shit game, shit force
>>29289202
>gets told
>THOSE ARE SHITTY GAMES ANYWAY! DOESN'T MATTER
lol
>>29288748
>anti-gun
They game doesn't hint at anti-gun at all
>BLM pro, Feminist pro
The leader of the Rikers is a hoodrat nigger bitch who is by and far the most despicable character in the entire game.
>government shilling politically correct shit
The LMB, the strongest enemy faction in the game, is headed by rogue division agents.
>>29288776
In the Base of Operational Operations, the lady over the loudspeaker talks about how civilians are not allowed weapons, to turn them in or face confiscation and incarceration, or they can be shot too.
All during the big disaster, like they ain't got bigger things to worry about.
It's really Katrina all over again.
>>29290933
That's at first when shit is going crazy and they don't know who's bad and who's good
Later in the game, they go as far as to offer shooting classes to civilians at the shooting range you unlock
>>29289866
The assassins were the ultimate libertarians and the Templars were Nwo/illuminati type control freaks.anyway this is since black flag. Got tired of the series after that as it seemed like it got real bland.
>>29288681
>buying ubisoft games
>ever
>>29290954
Yeah I haven't gotten too far. When I heard that, I was pretty disappointed in game, but I just pretend I'm me operating. The story is so loose.
I thought this thread was gonna be about awesome shit, but it turned into /pol/...
>>29290933
the PA lady says to turn in weapons to the armory while in the BoA, as in you can have weapons but if you're gonna be inside the base you have to lock them up.
>>29291203
>>29291203
>the PA lady says to turn in weapons to the armory while in the BoA, as in you can have weapons but if you're gonna be inside the base you have to lock them up.
This is an entirely new level of cherry-picking. Like, if regular cherry-picking is a circle, this is a bubble.
A whole new dimension.
>>29291250
nigga you guys are the ones getting pissed at a single background quote in a videogame and calling the entire game anti-gun. at this point im pretty sure you guys WANT videogames to have anti-your opinion overtones just so you have something to be angry about.
Its the only game I know where suppressors on guns actually sound like real fucking suppressed guns.
Did anyone ever notice there are no random civilians with guns? Like no regular good or neutral people with weapons. Plenty if authority types with guns and plenty of bad guys with guns. Where are all the regular non-victimized people?
>>29291593
FUCKING THIS!
>>29291615
>>29291593
It's Ubisoft, did you really expect that level of imagination? They wanted a simple "good guys & bad guys" shooter.
>>29291593
>Like no regular good or neutral people with weapons.
Except for the previously mentioned civilians who give you guns for helping them, you mean?
>>29290843
Wait LMB are rogue Division Agents?
Or is that just some background to explain why the Dark Zones have division people fighting in them.
>>29290733
They only kill infected people and for some reason us, too.
They can eat shit, though.
>>29291625
I kind of expected non-police civilian elements getting involved in both sides of conflicts. Though I have noticed that most Tom Clancy and Ubisoft games don't feature too much interaction with non-story civilians. Most I've played the regular people in the area on any given mission or map have mysteriously vanished or have been slaughtered.
>>29291655
>implying civilians giving up guns to "authoritative figures" is an okay and good thing
Just like Hurricane Katrina.
You won't be seeing that shit around here because people won't go giving up their own guns that they every rights to own goddamnit
>>29291689
It's in exchange for assisting them you autistic fuck. It's quite literally bartering goods.
Maybe not the wisest barter, but a trade nonetheless.
>>29291287
Actually, I'm mocking the same guy that you are. My bad, I should have been clearer.
What really irks me is how they replaced every major organization with the "JTF", and for some reason decided to replace FEMA as well.
The former reeks of Communist hubris, and the latter was unnecessary. Whatever happened to authenticity? Right, it died with creativity in general.
>>29291593
Took the words right out of my mouth. It's NYC, civilian ownership of firearms is practically illegal, and in-game civilians seem generally too sick to fight.
>>29291655
Probably just spare guns, or there's not enough ammo to go around in relation to the number of guns. It is New York, after all...
This game takes place in NYC, i.e. one of the hardest places to legally acquire a firearm. Of course only the bad guys and gov't are going to have guns.
>>29291658
As I understand it LMB are just mercs, rogue agents under the leadership of the first rogue agent joined up with them to find they guy who make the virus.
>>29288681
The Division itself is essentially an irregular militia. There's no comparing it to conventional forces.
>>29288847
Maybe weapons are being smuggled in? Also, what happened to all the men over those seven years? Did they just stop hiring men? Fuckin' Commies.
>>29290882
>The LMB, the strongest enemy faction in the game, is headed by rogue division agents.
Wrong, LMB just works with the rogue agents. LMB is headed by an ex-military Lt-Col who has a sexy Pavehawk.
>>29288847
I really hope that image was a joke.
>>29290687
Well, for one, the division was formed in 2007, kind of young.
And although its not stated, I doubt the agents are trained for very long since the piont is to reinsert these people back into society. It'd be weird to all of a sudden take a 1 year vacation.
On the other hand, for an organization that would only be put active as a last measure, I doubt most of the agents have actual experience in such a prolonged fucked up situation.
>>29291950
This.
Hence this must be why the rest of the country is better off then NYC which got quarantined.
>all those dead yups
>billions of magically spawned guns appearing on corpses and random boxes all the time
Virus confirmed to be made by the /k/ube's will. Ave Nex Alea.
>>29291725
>Maybe not the wisest barter, but a trade nonetheless
I dunno.
Imagine yourself in a SHTF situation, a bunch of operators roll up and save your ass, and they're generally working toward restoring peace to the warzone. They have all the know-how and skills needed to not only survive, but kick in the teeth of the marauding scum who are actually making life miserable for everyone else.
I'm not saying I'd give them all my guns and bullets, but they'd probably be able to put them to better use than I would.
>>29288748
Guys is this at all true? Is it like how BF: Hardline was anti-tea party?
Waiting for angry joe review
>>29292038
So your saying you don't trust yourself with a gun and thus would just hand them over to someone that is part of some agency?
Here's something you can do!
Shove the gun up your ass and pull the trigger there you have some actual use with your guns that you don't trust yourself with.
>>29292113
>I'm not saying I'd give them all my guns and bullets, but they'd probably be able to put them to better use than I would.
Reading comprehension isn't your friend, is it?
But more importantly, weak bait. Are you guys even trying anymore?
>>29292038
It's situational, which is why I said maybe. Yeah, I could see that being a good idea if you've got a gun you're not using. Good faith, equips people who are actively helping you, all that.
I wouldn't do it if it was the only gun I had, though.
>>29292113
For fuck's sake, is everything some liberal talking point to you?
>>29288953
>Haven't you ever heard hurricane Katrina?!
Don't you bring that fucking disaster into this. How many people do you know that were affected by that? How many homes did you have to help clean out after it? How many weeks did YOU sit without power?
Katrina had nothing to do with the Government wanting to fuck people over. The government fucked itself over, and mostly didn't care. Those who did help, who were a lot like the JTF in The Division, were largely unequipped, under staffed, and poorly supported. What failed New Orleans was IT'S government in the first place. They kept ignoring the fact their levies were shit, and when the Army Corps of Engineers told them in a report THEY IGNORED IT.
No one cares about this state anyhow. If you want to take a look at how disaster response is from the government in a state that the people care about take a look at Hurricane Sandy. Fast reaction, good support, and a positive outcome.
Go back to /pol/ you prick.
>>29288926
You do realize that your character may have speshul snuflake access to Tom Clancy tier ass pull tech but were all essentially pulled from standard civilian life right? Hell the opening cinematic shows husbands, mothers and friends getting paged on their totally not suspicious Xboxhueg watches and going to new York. The agent profiles you can collect list the occupations of the first wave agents and they aren't all "delta tier force 1 operators" or law enforcment, it's shit like teachers and white collar office monkeys. If anything this game actually enforces the "good guy with a gun" meme unless you think the thug lyfe, napalm makes the plague go away, we wuz prisoners and sheit and basic bitch mercenary factions are more representative of gun owners at large.
>>29292159
As someone who hasn't played last of
Us or division, and goes here and /pol/ you are both right. Quit the dick measuring.
>>29289300
Not me genius.
As to the other guy I don't go on pol
Have fun with whatever this threads about.
>>29292175
Honestly Joe Ferro and The Cleaners weren't entirely bad.
His wife got sick and died and he took it upon himself to start a movement to kill it before it spread while the govt responders fell apart and did jack shit or even worse went rogue.
I will admit he and the Cleaners went overboard when they started killing anyone that coughed near them but they we just trying to cleanse the disease with fire and save the city unlike the nig cunt running the Rikers (was so glad to kill that twat), or the rioters who were Rikers lite.
>>29292051
It really wasn't anti tea party.
The main characters were criminals working with another large hybrid PMC-LEO crime syndicate buying a drill from these unrelated but stupidly well equipped militia but then were attacked because of the bounty on their heads.
Yeah the militia looked a little bad but they were exaggerated waaaaay out of proportioned.
As in they had missiles, loads of tanks, attack helicopters, and fully loaded military aircraft to prep for a war against America, which they fueled with drug sales.
Regardless, I actually enjoyed the crazy superpowered militia with enough weapons to rival the military. Normally films and video games have it so the non-government armies are just comic book evil organizations or terrorists, secret societies pulling some NWO shit, or some PMC with stupid amounts of connections.
Here they are some out of the way private group doing their own things and not initially hostile at all.
>>29292216
No. The autist is clearly an idiot who can't help but politicize everything.
Now go the fuck back to /pol/.
>>29292272
Agreed, really both the cleaners and the LMB were just trying to survive and do SOMETHING after basically getting abandoned by the govt. They both took it a little far but that is really only from the perspective of somebody on the outside looking in. To them the world was over, no laws no backup and nobody was doing anything about it so they decided to fix what they could. For the cleaners (mostly working class guys unfamiliar with biology) the solution was simple, stop the disease by any means necessary to protect their loved ones. For the LMB they were brought in to protect the rich and then they were abandoned after the govt. first attempt at maintaining order went hilariously wrong so they were left with one solution, to finish the mission and establish order in the city. Hell even the rogue first wave guys start to make sense once you start learning about the absolute clusterfuck that was the first wave I'd be bitter to if I got sent into a situation like that and then left to die because someone goofed and it wasn't going to be an easy solution
That's what I like about the division, game play kind of hampers the story telling but from the echos and after mission Intel you can really get a sense that this is truly a SHTF scenario and most people are just trying to survive often times this puts them at odds with a govt. trying to restore order but truly having no fucking idea about how to do that.
>>29292446
The rouge guys just turned into massive assholes though
I mean, I get it, but letting them tie up and drag around JTF guys, and killing their own agents? Makes me want to find Aaron Keener and kick the shit out of him. There had to have been a serious disconnect in his brain for him to think that was okay.
>>29292446
Don't forget, the plotline's rogue division agent went rogue because he strongly felt betrayed by the very government that trained him.
I found an Echo that basically showed him holed up with survivors, waiting for JTF pick up, but they flaked and he was left trying to protect all the people from rioters.
>>29292505
>>29292446
I've never been a 100% completionist kind of person, in any video game. Once I beat the main story do I rarely go back and do the side missions, but this game has left me with wanting to find every piece of intel I can. They seriously did a good job on the lore, and getting a glimpse of life before, during, in the midst, and after what happened.
Especially with the echos, because you can almost feel like you're there, surrounded by the people
>>29289045
>the division gives the image view on those with guns as bad and those without guns are innocent
Those with guns have power to be bad and those who don't have them are going to be the victims. What's your point?
> those good with guns are the authorities
Yes, those who use their guns for a "common cause"(=rebuilding civilized society) instead of their own selfish intentions(=looters, criminals, murderers.) are the good guys per se.
>>29292558
dude some of the phone calls are feelsy as fuck
>>29291919
>the former reeks of communist hubris
Go back to bed McCarthy.
>>29292496
Yeah it doesn't excuse his behavior but seriously man he got fucked.
>get sent in by govt. maintain order help civilians
>city is a goddamn war zone everybody is just trying to survive and shit has gotten so out of control that it's a fight just to rescue people don't even think about establishing order.
>still do the right thing
>lose friends, lose people you are trying to rescue
>call for backup
>left out to dry, no backup, no support
>feel betrayed by government, decide to do what everyone else is doing and just keep yourself alive
Still gonna kick his teeth in because he was a whiny little bitch, but compared to the usual Ubisoft badging it's nice to see a character with a little motive beyond "evil cuz badguy."
>>29288874
>It's a Tom Clancy game shitdick.
God Rest his soul, they own his name and he can't stop them. He'll never stop them.
>>29292580
fuckin I know, like the little girl who won tickets to the nutcracker? I'm sittin there like "bitch you aren't gonna make it, your grandma and you are gonna be the first to go"
>>29292615
I mean I get that he went rouge and decided to just survive and all that, but spoilers: when he decided to continue amhersts work? I was like now you just went full retard. You want to fix this situation, and now you're just trying to make it worse? fuck dude.
Although it makes a sequel a lot easier
I've got a theory about April Kelleher though
>>29291593
To be fair. What are your chances of survival against organized hardened crooks, pmcs and military? The moment joe civ shoots a looter he is going to draw the attention of his friends and they aint going to let him grovel for mercy if they see him
>>29292658
Yeah the whole nuclear deterent via super bug thing was full retard but I think he is past the point of caring about fixing the govt. and is just in it for the power/revenge. I'm interested to see where they take the story and what happens when they release the raid hopefully they can keep it up and the enemies still remain more then just "the bad guys."
>>29292730
yeah I just chocked it up to going full insane retard mode and losing all hope in the government. Seeing the rouge story side of things though made me regret going rouge in the dark zone.
Theory about april kelleher though (if of course she isn't dead, which is a possibility, haven't found all the survival guide pages yet). When you find the noble squad echos, and the last one when she's tied up in that riker apartment, Lau said she'd look into april's file and try to track her down.
I bet you they'll bring her back as either the main character for the next one, or a position similar to Lau's, especially with all she's been through, and her husband being dead now.
>>29292658
or the woman that calls 911 saying she's sick and alone
The division hits that "plainclothes operator" look that I love, but I don't have anything to play it on.
I do want that replica watch though...
>>29288748
>>29288817
Where did you even get this conclusion from? This has nothing to do with the game and it has absolutely no mention about anything you just claimed. Do your even play the game?
>>29292887
"okay ma'am, is this an emergency?" that'd be fucking awful to hear
>>29292889
honestly, I watched a couple unboxing videos of the watch on youtube, and you'd be better off DIYing an LED strip to the outside edge of the face, on a g-shock. Better quality, more features, and still that cool tactical look
>>29288681
>Female Operators
Suspension of Disbelief dropped.
>>29293055
They die a lot though.
>>29293119
this
hell the first 1 you meet almost dies before the game even really gets going
>>29293055
whats the weight and distance on that hike
>>29292496
>>29292615
>>29292658
>Welcome to Dubai: Snow Edition
>>29293369
not true, new york is so much worse. I mean they didn't just kill the people working on the stadium, they killed the team too.
>>29289262
Hi there. I made that image. The 2016 part is incorrect now after a recent clarification. It might still happen but as of now that part isn't true. Thanks for saving it though.
>>29292730
So they're obviously going to be adding on expansions by giving you more of NYC.
What I wonder is, being such a hit, what exactly is ubisoft going to do with Division 2, in the future? You know they'll make this into a series.
Maybe West Coast? Maybe introduce an actual survival aspect where you have to scavange for supplies or you take a stat penalty? It'd make sense, since if they do go sequel, it can take place a few years after and whole cities are lost and supplies are severely limited.
>>29294433
Seattle, Washington, Innawoods survivalist shit.
>>29294561
>>29294433
This is ubisoft we're talking about, it will be the same damn shit with the minimal amount of content changed to pass off as a new game
>>29289045
To be fair the destruction of religion would be awesome
>>29291091
>writing off all Tom Clancy games
>not playing Siege
faggot
>>29294433
Might be cool to do London or Paris or some other major cities, not necessarily in the U.S
>>29291091
>he didn't play Chaos Theory
>>29288776
This desu senpai.
The Division makes the case for preppers.
Even one of the phone call pickups is called "Preppers" instead of "Paranoid Survivalists" and talks about their food and water reserves.
And everywhere else it shows how fucked people are if they aren't armed and prepared for a disaster.
This is as close to innawoods natural disaster simulator you're going to get.
>>29288874
>It's a Tom Clancey game shitdick. It's supposed to be a realistic game. Sorry you were born in 1998 and don't know what good video games are.
It's like you've never played a Tom Clancy game before The Division, or read a Tom Clancy novel.
They err on the side of realism, but there are plenty of things in both the games and novels that are fantastical.
>>29295454
>This is as close to innawoods natural disaster simulator you're going to get.
if you had to actually scavenge for food/water/med/parts/ammo for a certain upkeep (let's say if you're starving or thirsty, your HP is cut in half or some stat is penalized)
Of course I'd also like it if they had a "hardcore" mode where 2-3 shots or a headshot = death.
I mean, you can still explain away your character being a government trained semi-operator since you can use and operate weapons you pick up, rappel, small squad tactics, etc etc.
So my friend is trying to get to me buy this game so I can play with him. I watched a gameplay video and the enemies are fucking bullet sponges. There are times where it looks like you have to unload on an enemy and then reload, and then unload again to kill them. WTF?
Is this normal in this game? I'm used to playing Insurgency and ArmA where people go down in 1-2 shots. Is it really this bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4GxWdA6ZNo
>>29296394
This game is more rpg. They're bullet sponges.
There are armored enemies that take a whole bunch and named "bosses", especially the fat LMG bosses that take a small arsenal to bring down.
>>29295569
>read a tom clancy novel
>Featuring the secret spy operator president who never dies despite being caught in so many shitty situations.
>realism
>>29292024
I think it's more along the lines of how reserve units are undisciplined and bitch and complain a lot more than active duty military.
They made out the Division to be an elite group of "sleeper" agents, but really it's a bunch of weekend warriors with 5.11 gear that got called up and definitely were not ready.
>>29288681
>using muh nugget
>reload 1/5 ammo
>each boolet loaded
>reload 0/5
>stripper clip loaded
>mfw
>mission to kill Riker dindu leader in the event center
>oh cool, an Echo in the di-
>go through a few
>mfw ready to rip and tear more Rikers
That said, I'm enjoying The Division much more than I expected. Survival aspects could have been fleshed out more, but it's Ubisoft. That and I kinda wish it didn't have completely randomized weapons and weapons themselves having tiered brackets instead of levels. Found myself a real nice military AK-47M that just tears through dindus, gonna be sad when I find some shitty MP5 that outdamages it and what not.
>>29296528
>Featuring the secret spy operator president
Jack Ryan was neither a spy nor an operator.
If you use the term "spook" to identify anyone in the IC, then as an analyst, and then the deputy to the DDI, then acting DDI, he was a "spook", but he was never a spy nor an operator as far as I can remember.
He was a Muuuhhrrreeeeen infantry LT until the helo crash, so that explains a basic level of proficiency in combat, but he was never a one man terrorist wrecking machine in any of the books I read. The operators/spies were always Clark, Ding, and crew, and Ed and Mary Pat Foley were actual case officers .
>>29298052
Yeah, that was a level of detail I was not expecting.
>>29298189
Sam Fisher was in universe as well.
>>29288748
Fuck off anarcuck
>>29298209
>Sam Fisher was in universe as well.
I never read the books that were novelizations of the games.
The Splinter Cell games (at least the first ones) were all about stealth though, so it's not like he was a character just knocking hundreds of operator terrorists dicks in the dirt constantly before being elected emperor of the UN world government.
>>29298052
I was surprised they had the archangel stock and a black Monte Carlo stock model. Does the archangel stock feed from magazines or the standard reload animation?
For some reason most games piss me off now days but this one is about the only one I have enjoyed in a couple of years I hated red orchestra because of the realism I just want a game were it feels fun and some god damm troll with a sniper is not picking me off every 5 secs fuck that noise
>>29298445
Holy crap bro, get you some fucking punctuation.
>>29288681
>guns
>new york city
pick one
>>29298718
The guns you find are presumably left behind by firstwavers and the JTF. Probably also from police armories as the game tells you the cops abandoned NYC because they weren't trained to deal with that kind of shit.
>>29298445
My personal hatred was always bunny-hopping.
Since the early days of playing FPS games online, with Counter-Strike and the often overlooked Day of Defeat, fucking bunny hoppers just pissed me off every time.
Even circle strafing isn't as retarded as that shit.
>>29298217
Sup statist bootlicker.
What I want in a game is a ww2 tank sim with RPG elements were your crew ranks up depending on how well you do in the missions and start out in the German army in 1939 commanding a panzer 1 or 2 and by 1945 commanding a couple of tigers as a German general
>>29298917
so silent hunter but with tanks.
>>29298917
Valkyria Chronicles is the closest you're gonna get.
>>29298924
Yes
>be a general
>only command 2 tanks
>>29298817
Your definition of statist encompasses everyone but you and, like, fifteen other people. Why should we care what you think?
I have not gotten it yet, I've heard you can unload entire mags into people before they die which is kinda dumb.
>>29298967
it's not a realistic damage model. part of the game's artificial difficulty is making enemies take tons of ammo to kill and who do tons of damage to you the farther in the game you get
>>29291091
>he didn't play Rogue Spear and Raven Shield and all the old Rainbow 6 games
confirmed hoe ass nigga
>>29298967
reds - not really, if your gun is decent half a mag or 1 or 2 head shots with a decent marksman rifle or if you're close a good shotgun blast or 2
purples - mag, mag and a half, not sure about shotgun
yellows - mag or 2, not sure about shotgun
named bosses - better bring your lunch, gonna be fighting (and running) for a while, not sure about shotgun since i keep my distance
>>29298967
It's a looter shooter. Not a tactical, short-time-to-kill shooter.
Expect armor, healthbars, and needing to stack the damages before you can kill anything high-level with any kind of speed.
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