>In 2016 Rosoboronexport (part of the Rostec State Corporation) will begin to promote the Uran-9 combat multipurpose robotic system in the international market. The Uran-9 is designed to provide remote reconnaissance and fire support to combined arms, recon and counter-terror units. It consists of two recon and fire support robots, a tractor for their transportation and a mobile control post.
>The armament of the recon and fire support robots includes the 30mm 2A72 automatic cannon, a coaxial 7.62mm machine gun and Ataka ATGMs. The armament mix may vary depending on customer requirements. The robots are fitted with a laser warning system and target detection, identification and tracking equipment. The Uran-9 will be particularly useful during local military and counter-terror operations, including those in cities. Its use will significantly reduce personnel casualties.
http://defence-blog.com/army/russia-to-start-promoting-uran-9-combat-robotic-system.html
This is a small rant, but its quite stunning to see what happens when even underfunded (by US standards) defense depts focus on warfighting instead of social experiments and climate change. Every technological advantage we've had over the past century is being wiped out in pursuit of "sensor fusion" and "information superiority". Has anyone asked what happens if that card fails? What happens if we're deaf and blind because of enemy activity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBC9BM4-3Ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfXdw1st34
>This is a small rant, but its quite stunning to see what happens when even underfunded (by US standards) defense depts focus on warfighting instead of social experiments and climate change.
Do you understand that a little pet project doesn't represent the military as a whole.
Ask yourself if the Russian military is so advanced that they've developed UGV's then why are most of their aircraft dropping unguided munitions and why the average soldiers pay is $80 a month.
>Every technological advantage we've had over the past century is being wiped out in pursuit of "sensor fusion" and "information superiority"
What do you think is being wiped out?
>>28366462
>This is a small rant, but its quite stunning to see what happens when even underfunded (by US standards) defense depts focus on warfighting instead of social experiments and climate change.
Its 'stunning' to see them develop things that have existed for years and will be jammed into being large paperweights during actual WARfighting, not COIN? Thats 'stunning' to you?
Look up SWORDS or MAARS. Hell, even Black Knight UGV.
The US army seems to have real issues procuring new shit lately
But I guess all their procurement funding has gone to mraps & strykers
Because the retards show up to wars armed with nothing but trucks and humvees, then are astonished when their supply convoys get ambushed...
It's UGV, in next year there will be shown a new Russian UCAVs.
There is a new Russian strategy to fight an enemy army by using drones in the air, land and water.
I wouldn't mind Russian shills so much if they didn't try so hard to be antagonists. They should really redesign their propaganda strategy.
>>28366504
>most of their aircraft dropping unguided munitions
New sighting systems (Su34 and Su25sm3 have it) provide almost guided accuracy with 1/50th cost. Same platforms can utilize laser, gps and tv-guided munitions if need be.
>average soldiers pay is $80 a month
Even fucking conscript's monthly allowance is more than that. Contract dudes start at $500 with rank, duties, age, hazard and combat bonuses.
>>28366462
OK, so how do we kill it?
SOON
>>28366462
>what happens if it fails?
Well the US would be doomed, forced to rely on only the best air, satellite, electronic warfare, human intelligence and light infantry in the world for scouting and reconnaissance.
Making a baby tank don't mean the US armed forces stop doing other shit.
>Russia makes something that their defense industry will never buy, just like the bmpt
>LOOK AT HOW ADVANCED THEY ARE CLEARLY EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS WHAT THEYRE DOING EXCEPT FOR THE US
Like fucking clockwork. This shit is just plain boring at this point but retards will still fall for the bait.
>>28366462
>This is a small rant, but its quite stunning to see what happens when even underfunded (by US standards) defense depts focus on warfighting instead of social experiments and climate change.
What western militaries sell to public as environmental stuff is actually about logistics and supply security. More fuel efficient combat aircraft, tank, APC or any other vehicle will have better combat radius and generally smaller logistical footprint. Military just uses things like that for PR.
>>28366578
>our new sighting systems that the west used since the 70s are amazing and cheap! Stupid west doesn't know any better
>>28366675
Like any other armored tracked vehicle. If you can't kill it you immobilize it by destroying one its tracks. After that it's a sitting duck which will require opposing forces resources to be repaired or it will be abandoned. With human driven vehicles these means that the crew will have to either wait inside and hope for the cavalry or make a run for it. For a robotic system it's a bit different and trickier. You'll basically have to wait that it runs out of power.
>>28366578
Rifleman pay is 1000 rubles per month. Conscripts still make up the majority of the Russian armed forces.
That's $13.72 USD.
Contract soldiers make the massive sum of 25,000 rubles. That's $343.12 USD.
Bonuses can just about double that but in any case you were wondering, a USMC PFC makes $1,622 a month, or 118,181 rubles.
And gets bonuses.
>>28366718
>best human intelligence and light infantry in the world
lol m8
lol
>>28366512
If you know what the BK UGV is you should know it can operate and engage autonomously
> Every technological advantage we've had over the past century is being wiped out in pursuit of "sensor fusion" and "information superiority". Has anyone asked what happens if that card fails? What happens if we're deaf and blind because of enemy activity?
Consider than the nuclear bomb was completely secret until the day it was used, we don't necessarily know what that research has yielded.
>>28366935
>Consider than the nuclear bomb was completely secret until the day it was used,
literally not true at all
And building a nuke is EASY compared to modern weaponry
Plus you need more than 1 or 2 examples to fight a war with.
>>28366928
lets face it, it can't
and it should not
but fuck it, russia strong i guess
>>28366742
Reaction image and greentext. Here, have a (you)
>>28366762
>Conscripts still make up the majority of the Russian armed forces
They are nowhere near real fighting though. What conscription does is it teaches your average civilian dude the basics of military life plus some weapon/vehicle operation skill to be used in wartime.
>USMC PFC makes $1,622 a month, or 118,181 rubles
No shit. US also has 8 times the military budget.
Time for crawling drones.
>>28367062
you are aware this is pretty much deep battle just with more fancy words?
>>28367078
part 1
>>28366578
> provide almost guided accuracy
>almost guided accuracy
Vodka level guided accuracy.
>>28366953
>BK UGV
>Russia
Quality post
So how many will they be able to produce before the whole thing shuts down thanks to a lack of funds?
I bet on 5
>>28366462
Yo what up?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_(vehicle)
>>28367256
Uran-9 is actually in production and ready to sell and a lot cheaper and lighter.
>>28366762
>Conscripts still make up the majority of the Russian armed forces.
Nope, there are alredy more contractors.
>>28367256
That thing looks huge, clumsy, uneasy to maintain and totally unsuited for urban environment. Which kinda explains why the DoD has stalled it in the prototype stage years ago.
>>28367687
>That thing looks huge, clumsy, uneasy to maintain and totally unsuited for urban environment.
As opposed to which US military vehicle?
>>28366722
The Terminator hasn't been ordered because it's based on T-90 chassis and incompatible with new modular doctrine. It's functions have been delegated to the T-15 which has better engine, gun and an actual troop compartment.
I hope the vehicle will still find it's application somewhere, always liked the orcish sight of it.
>>28366462
>that pic
>RIVETS
noooooooo :c
To be fair I couldn't build a better tonk. But still....
noooooooo :C
>>28367608
Pic related
>>28367687
It's less about the actual vehicle and more about the fact that this was done years ago.
>>28367869
The USSR been playing around with unmanned tanks since the 30s, what's your point memespouting retard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletank
>>28366722
But when public goes apeshit on the issue of non-american weapons development so do the politicians and then they throw huge amounts of cash to any kind of technobabble an engineer can come up with. And this explains alot.
Then there's the problem of constantly changing the requirements of what ever you guys are developing. Bradey and F-35 are first one to pop into my mind. And don't get me wrong F-35 is probably going to be a fine plane but you all have to admit that the constant changes of what is required for a JSF made the development process a the mother of clusterfucks..
Goddamnit, UGVs look so cute, WW3 is going to be adorable
>>28367900
>This is a small rant, but its quite stunning to see what happens when even underfunded (by US standards) defense depts focus on warfighting instead of social experiments and climate change. Every technological advantage we've had over the past century is being wiped out in pursuit of "sensor fusion" and "information superiority". Has anyone asked what happens if that card fails? What happens if we're deaf and blind because of enemy activity?
My point is that fear of losing technological advantage is unfounded if Russia just now reached 2007 levels of tech.
>>28366504
C.C.I.P. bomb sights on aircraft HUD's has been a thing since the 70's - they constantly calculate an unguided bombs point of impact n a HUD and have a decent CEP as long as civs aren't in play.
Russia has alot of old stock of munitions they would like to dispose of. So does the US (see the entire reason for the JDAM program - Russia also has an analog for the FAB series).
I mean if you are sitting on a couple million unguided bombs it makes sense to use them, not every weapon needs to be a 200,000 thousand dollar sensor fuzed smart bomb/missile.
Also besides economic reasons, Russia isn't to keen to let new technology be observed by NATO
ITT: American damage control
>l-look we took a M2-240 and put it on a lego drone!!!
>t-this armoured d-drone is s-shit
Jesus you Americans are oblivious. This fucking piece of Russian shit has a 30mm cannon and ATGMs which BTFO a vast majority of your land forces for a fraction of the price. Considering none of your tanks have any anti-missile system it will be delicious to see one of these BTFO your Abrams like the goat fuckers are doing in Saudi.
Shit a 30mm cannon would rape everything up to a tank.
Anyhow its sad to see a nation, such as Russia, have more innovation then America.
>>28367968
>fear of losing technological advantage is unfounded if Russia just now reached 2007 levels of tech.
2007 levels we're aware. Also we have no idea what russkies and chinks are cooking up in their secret laboratories either but it's still a safe bet to say that DARPA is still going to lead at least the 'insane ideas that actually' department. Cause you know.. Money.
What's the armor on this thing? Bulletproof only?
>>28367997
'insane ideas that actually work' -department I mean.
>>28368008
It's designed to be airdroppable a la the BMD series so it probably has very thin aluminum armor against .30 cals.
Not that it matters though because no one is inside it
>>28367947
>bringing up the Bradley and F-35 as having constantly changing mission requirements
Theirs were actually very well defined early on. Don't believe Pentagon Wars for a second about how shit kept getting added to the M2.
You'd be better off pointing to the EFV or GCV for constantly changing requirements.
>>28367807
It wasn't ordered because it had zero application once the Brits and US showed in Iraq how you can very effectively go into urban areas with IFVs and MBTs, it was around well before the entire slav FCS series became a thing and failed to find a market. There's a reason why they could only even sell the concept to the Kazahkucks.
>>28367020
Nah brah, you actually tried to say that a CEP of 50m is 'almost guided accuracy'. You failed the moment you tried to say that kind of horse shit and exposed yourself.
>russian start using drones
>NSA/US hacking services/whateverthefuckisinchargeofcyberwarfare take control of the drones
>russians get BTFO by their own drones
>>28368064
That's just in: the US is decades behind Russia in EWAR and non-conventional warfare tactics. Admittedly, jamming taliban's walie talkies is the ceiling of American EWAR capabilities
>Hodges acknowledged that US troops are learning from Ukrainians about Russia's jamming capability, its ranges, types and the ways it has been employed. He has previously described the quality and sophistication of Russian electronic warfare as "eye-watering."
>Russia maintains an ability to destroy command-and-control networks by jamming radio communications, radars and GPS signals, according to Laurie Buckhout, former chief of the US Army's electronic warfare division, now CEO of the Corvus Group. In contrast with the US, Russia has large units dedicated to electronic warfare, known as EW, which it dedicates to ground electronic attack, jamming communications, radar and command-and-control nets.
>"Our biggest problem is we have not fought in a comms-degraded environment for decades, so we don't know how to do it," Buckhout said. "We lack not only tactics, techniques and procedures but the training to fight in a comms-degraded environment."
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/policy-budget/warfare/2015/08/02/us-army-ukraine-russia-electronic-warfare/30913397/
>>28368056
Not him, but a 50m CEP in near level flight is pretty impressive, considering a 500lb bomb has more than double the effect area. CCIP (and to argue the HUD in general) was a fantastic innovation that was overshadowed by LGB's and TVGM's and lightyears ahead of everything that came before it.
That said a shallow/steep dive will lower that CEP a smidgen
>>28368096
>the US is decades behind Russia in EWAR and non-conventional warfare tactics. Admittedly, jamming taliban's walie talkies is the ceiling of American EWAR capabilities
>literally nothing in the source you posted said this
I love watching vatniks flail about impotently.
Now tell us all about the donald cook :3
>>28368096
Why didn't the US see this coming, did we think the russians would be asleep at the wheel when we introduced jamming, EW, ECM, and SEAD in earnest in Vietnam?
>Oh look American EW planes and ECM are greatly reducing the effectiveness of our supplied SAM's and AD nets in Vietnam.
>>28368112
> cook
more like donald cuck
>>28368132
>thinks the US has no experience with EW
>literally has drones that go out and spam all frequencies
>has fucking 155mm artillery rounds that do the same
>even m113s that do it
>NGJ
>Suter
>Growler
>internet babbies think that clickbait articles are truth
This had me wondering, with all the jamming and EW capabilities that we have available now in the event of a war between modern militaries anything with a radar or flying above a certain altitude will be BTFO and jammed into uselessness, aren't the soldier in the ground going to be left with what amounts to ww2 level of tech when it comes to information and comm assets?
Is Russia focusing on ground based drones because they can't build armed air drones?
>>28367256
>>28366462
CUTE
>>28366504
OP is either literally Solomon, or someone parroting that retards blog.
>>28367687
>tech demonstrator
>prototype
>>28366578
>New sighting systems (Su34 and Su25sm3 have it) provide almost guided accuracy with 1/50th cost. Same platforms can utilize laser, gps and tv-guided munitions if need be.
While guided munitions can appear to be expensive as fuck in reality those aren't. Bomb is only relatively small part of what actual combat sortie costs, especially when things like air refueling comes into picture. Huge part of cost of airstrike comes from cost possible recon, verification, re-fueling flights, possible SEAD escort, all mechanics involved in maintaining and arming the plane(s), all security personnel in airbase(s), cooks, truck drivers and other folks involved on supply side of operation.
Not to mention the fact that strike aircraft armed with guided munitions can most likely strike at multiple targets on same sortie, certainly more targets than same strike aircraft could while dumping iron. Also totally irrelevant things like collateral damage and possible friendly fire becoming far less likely.
Guided munitions weren't designed to avoid shit like collateral damage that is side effect. Rationale was simpler. A plane that can reliably destroy a target with one two bombs is cheaper than sending half dozen planes to do same thing. Another factor driving development was being able to give close air support closer to own troops safely.
>>28366562
>Russian UCAV.
Using what satellites? Only two Garpun have been launched. Compare that to the USA's 15 more advanced WGS, SDS-3, and AEHF; and 4 equivalent Milstar (Which generally don't handle drones anyway).
>>28369120
>Not to mention the fact that strike aircraft armed with guided munitions can most likely strike at multiple targets on same sortie, certainly more targets than same strike aircraft could while dumping iron. Also totally irrelevant things like collateral damage and possible friendly fire becoming far less likely.
The only Russian aircraft that did bomb bay dumps is the Tu-22M3.
>Guided munitions weren't designed to avoid shit like collateral damage that is side effect. Rationale was simpler. A plane that can reliably destroy a target with one two bombs is cheaper than sending half dozen planes to do same thing. Another factor driving development was being able to give close air support closer to own troops safely.
Russian Tac. fighter-bombers already take out targets with 1-2 bombs apiece.
>>28368049
>It wasn't ordered because it had zero application once the Brits and US showed in Iraq how you can very effectively go into urban areas with IFVs and MBTs, it was around well before the entire slav FCS series became a thing and failed to find a market. There's a reason why they could only even sell the concept to the Kazahkucks.
No. the entire rationale for the BMPT was never the firepower optimized for urban combat- IFVs have those already. Its the armor protection of tanks. Without it, pretty much any IFV save for HIFV would get picked off early and leave the tanks without fire support. Given that T-15 is supposed to have tank level protection plus better firepower (Kornets>Atakas, while dual 30s isnt enough to offset other T-15 firepower advantage which is;) and more importantly ability to carry infantry it didnt make sense to order BMPTs then.
>>28366512
>Its 'stunning' to see them develop things that have existed for years and will be jammed into being large paperweights during actual WARfighting, not COIN? Thats 'stunning' to you?
wont be surprised if these things could be commanded through miles of cables to the control vehicle if they are so paranoid about it getting jammed/hijacked.
>>28369625
>The only Russian aircraft that did bomb bay dumps is the Tu-22M3.
Tell me more.
>>28369625
>Without it, pretty much any IFV save for HIFV would get picked off early and leave the tanks without fire support.
Which doesn't happen because western IFVs have decent optics and fire control systems.
The BMPT never had a chance in hell, its entire rationale for being was obsolete long ago if you have any kind of competency in your leadership corps.
>>28368056
>you actually tried to say that a CEP of 50m is 'almost guided accuracy'.
It is just Russian definition of 'guided accuracy'. >>28367130 these are maps corresponding to screenshots of Su-34 bombing with GLONASS guided KAB-500C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBEkjj9PL5I.
>>28367256
>>28366462
>>28366462
Daww
Its a little tiny Robo-BMD
Adorable
>>28370265
>russian 'accuracy'
>>28370186
>Tell me more.
Here's your (You). bombers with bombsights drop 1-2 bombs per pass on one target.
>>28370215
>Which doesn't happen because western IFVs have decent optics and fire control systems.
you didn't read the post as well as you should have. western/eastern operational IFVs dont have the armor to survive weapons that are designed to take down tanks. discussion of optics and FCS is immaterial when talking about taking hits.
>>28368049
>It wasn't ordered because it had zero application once the Brits and US showed in Iraq how you can very effectively go into urban areas with IFVs and MBTs, it was around well before the entire slav FCS series became a thing and failed to find a market. There's a reason why they could only even sell the concept to the Kazahkucks.
The reason it wasn't ordered is simpler, Soviet Union went bankrupt while it was being developed and they couldn't afford it once previous thing happened. Once they could afford it, it was obvious that T-72 wasn't the platform to base it on.
FYI Germans were considering pretty much same vehicle in 70's and 80's based on Leopard 2 hull, to clear roadside ambushes and to provide cover from helicopters.
BMP-T came along before Chechnya and urban combat in Grozny. Idea came during Soviet involvement in Afghanistan, when communism was the thing in Afghanistan they used GM-chassis based Shilka, they wanted something with better armor and without expensive radar.
>>28369625
When it comes to armor and crew safety T-15 is definitely a better vehicle than Terminator - Afghanit, reactive armor, dynamic protection, isolated capsule and so on. However BMPT still does a better job in urban environment.
The way I see it T-15 was designed to be vanguard of mech assault, with T-14 following it in the distance and Coalition providing long range fire support, all thing covered by low altitude CAS in perfect textbook scenario. The trade off here is that while both T-15 and T-14 can handle direct missile fire, they're still vulnerable to small arms, so Russians would avoid sending them into urban environment where sniper can go for the optics and radar system - that would be the job for Kurganets. BMPT however would have the advantage due to ASU, network-centric system, machine guns and missile units, providing equal capabilities at both urban warfare and covering flanks for T-14. It's just a more versatile vehicle overall.
>>28369625
>The only Russian aircraft that did bomb bay dumps is the Tu-22M3.
So are you implying that Russian air force aircraft can't carry non-guided munitions on external hardpoints?
>>28367256
>this one's a mini challenger
>>28366462
>this one's a mini BMD
i love them both
i want both
i NEED both
>>28370215
The rationale was that tanks/infantry/artillery trifecta get separated during an aggressive push, something evidenced by both Russian and Western military history.
>>28366462
Looks like someone was let loose with a load of masking tape, cardboard, paint and an M3 Stuart.
>>28370516
>So are you implying that Russian air force aircraft can't carry non-guided munitions on external hardpoints?
Im talking about what backfires are doing like here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkJZr49dkOA
its significantly less accurate compared to guided munitions and dumb bombs dropped by tac. fighter bombers with bombsights.
>>28367980
>this piece of Russian shit has stuff that can be easily outfitted to IFV's
>its sooooo good
>its much better than having an IFV with a 30mm, ATGM's and actual people in it!
>hurrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>28367980
You are now aware Russian 30x165mm has similar performance to 25x137mm, and that most Western IFVs are armored against it (it's even becoming the standard for 8x8 APCs).
>>28367980
>ITT: deluded vodka nigger who believes in his ebin russia stronk! maymay
ftfy
>>28370215
Whats decent optics going to do when the enemy tank puts a KE round through you before you lock on with your TOW ?
>>28370722
>You are now aware Russian 30x165mm has similar performance to 25x137mm, and that most Western IFVs are armored against it (it's even becoming the standard for 8x8 APCs).
only in penetration, the 30 mm cal has the better HE rounds. Also, they are switching to either 45/57 mm caliber for their next IFVs.
>>28371049
57mm is for export to rich Arab countries, the Russian MoD already passed on it.
There has been no evidence development of that telescoped 45mm round has progressed, just like how 40super and 50supershot have stagnated.
>>28371036
When you become aware you were being aimed at by the missile striking your vehicle.
>>28366462
relevant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PXt9TiYwVE
russian video about modern teletank r&d from 2009. It's ghetto af, but they got themselves a functional tank drone out of basic army model, with just slap-on modules. It even has perks like simulated automatic transmission and target tracking, which normal T72B doesn't have.
I guess this means T-72s will be fighting for decades to come, until there's not a single one left.
>>28371049
>only in penetration
Which is what matters when we're talking about armoured vehicles numnuts.
>>28371513
Guess the invention of a fucking pop filter has yet to reach that far east
PTPTptPTPpTpTpTpTPTPTT
>>28371513
T-54/55 seeing shit load of combat. and they started making them in 1946, if lucky some of them will see combat in 2146
and T-34 is just 6 years older
>>28371761
>Which is what matters when we're talking about armoured vehicles numnuts.
autocannons are second fiddle to onboard atgms against armored targets.
>>28372306
Friendly reminder that most tanks can be knocked out by autocannons if they are not presenting their frontal armor.
>>28372472
>Friendly reminder that most tanks can be knocked out by autocannons if they are not presenting their frontal armor.
Modern tanks are/could be equipped with add-on armor that make them resistant to autocannon fire not just across the front but the sides too. redundancies also exist in the FCS and observation so unless you got really lucky and knocked out all 3 of the optics(1 each for the gunner and commander of a combined multichannel sight and a much simpler gunner's backup one) you will get an HE round to the face immediately after announcing your presence because tanks have ridiculously quick target/threat detection and engagement cycles.
>>28371049
>lso, they are switching to either 45/57 mm caliber for their next IFVs.
No, they aren't.
57 was dropped entirely because of "insufficient ammunition loadout" and rightfully so. Stop spreading this meme that 57mm is something new that Russia will totally be adopting, it's almost as pathetic as ARMATA WILL HAVE 152MM CANNON JUST WAIT AND SEEE!!!
>>28370425
>thinks that there's only one BMPT and it's from the USSR
wargame babby detected
>>28366462
>Every technological advantage we've had over the past century is being wiped out in pursuit of technological advantage
You sound underage
>>28373379
>57 was dropped entirely because of "insufficient ammunition loadout" and rightfully so. Stop spreading this meme that 57mm is something new that Russia will totally be adopting, it's almost as pathetic as ARMATA WILL HAVE 152MM CANNON JUST WAIT AND SEEE!!!
except that they only rejected the old soviet 57 mm caliber gun- they are actually intrigued by programmable fuzing options allowing one or two shots per target instead of a burst as before. then there is the anti-air function with guided rounds which is really OP as fuck. especially against drones with really small signatures that MANPADS have problem.
>>28373379
The Russian naval infantry currenty has around fifty final model PT-76E Amphibious tanks with a new model 57mm Autocannon and the capability to mount spigot/spandrel/kornet, but from what I understand most of the ammo is old stock from the s-60
>>28374018
>>28374396
UVZ sales pitches =/= Russian MoD
>>28374583
>UVZ sales pitches =/= Russian MoD
soon to be what the RuMoD ordered.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/846745
Reminder that the Russians are standardizing their equipment big time- from chassis to calibres. Now that they are looking at a replacement for the 30 mm caliber in the anti-aircraft role its not far-fetched that they look into using the calibre for their IFVs as well. After all the 30 mm 2a42 itself was derived from a cross service weapon, the GSh-30 which was an aircraft mounted autocannon.
>>28375079
Your link does not support your previous claim.
>>28366462
Was this that small robot that was massacring NATO soldiers, tanks, and helicopters in that CG from a few years back?
>>28366462
Why the flying fuck do the Russians insist on putting their gaudy ass orange and black stripes and their coat of arms on absolutely everything? I sincerely hope that this doesn't translate into models seeing combat.
>>28366675
It's just a small tracked vehicle that has even worse situational awareness and response time since its view is limited to cameras. It almost looks small enough that you could sneak up behind it and push it over from the side with a few people
>>28367807
Wouldn't the BMPT-72 be useful to retrofit some of their T-72s. The majority of Russia's MBTs are still T-72s and probably will be for a while. It also might find its way into other countries since they're exporting it
>>28375871
>Your link does not support your previous claim.
In what way?
>>28376349
>Why the flying fuck do the Russians insist on putting their gaudy ass orange and black stripes and their coat of arms on absolutely everything? I sincerely hope that this doesn't translate into models seeing combat.
Its the St. George Ribbon- really rustles the jimmies of funny people.>>28376986
>Wouldn't the BMPT-72 be useful to retrofit some of their T-72s.
Yes, it would.
>The majority of Russia's MBTs are still T-72s and probably will be for a while.
The plan is that once the next gen vehicles come in and built up numbers they retire the T-80 and place upgraded T-72s and T-90s in storage, so 2025 at most we'll see T-72s making up still a chunk of Russia's active tank park.
>It also might find its way into other countries since they're exporting it
Its a great option for Syria and Iraq right now. Put in some extra dosh for ARENA and
Shtora and it would be vastly more efficient than pretty much any tank out there against light infantry - double so with the threat of TOWs taken care of.
Those eagles on front armor give me distinct WH40k vibes
>>28377385
Developing a 57mm SPAAG =/= Russia replacing its 30mm with 57mm.
>>28377711
>Developing a 57mm SPAAG =/= Russia replacing its 30mm with 57mm.
believe what you will. but pretty much everybody is upgrading calibers for their IFVs. which definitely makes a lot more sense than retaining old calibers given that IFVs have gotten much more protected over the years compared to their cold war counterparts.
>>28377744
>believe what you will
Irony aside, the British and French adopting a 40mm gun on some vehicles =/= everybody.
>>28378209
the next American IFV will be 40mm too
>>28366462
nice
