Finally got my hands on the original bullpup.
This is the only prototype designed for a scope, and to my knowledge the only Thorneycroft in public circulation.
Designed by James Thorneycroft, the rifle was the intended to be a smaller infantry rifle that could be used in trenches and on horseback. The rifle was roughly eight inches shorter and fifteen percent lighter than other rifles of the time. Ultimately, it was rejected do to horrible ergonomics and unbearable recoil. The Lee Enfield wound up winning the contract.
Figured some pictures where in order.
This was one of the later prototypes, 1905
It was a straight pull bolt action.
Because of the scope, the bolt handle was turned down and inward. Actually, very difficult to operate.
Scope mounts. Looks identical to early Mauser mounts.
Muzzle and bayonet lug.
Almost identical to Enfield.
Fucking sweet thanks for sharing this
>>30647607
>>30647619
>>30647638
>>30647650
>>30647665
that's neat as hell
BOOF I SWEAR TO FUCK IF YOU BANDSAW THIS ONE TOO
>>30647638
>straight pull
I'm an idiot.
Straight compared to the patent. You still had to rotate it.
Please before you destroy this one tell Ian to come and make a video about it.
>>30647699
Anyway, here's the bolt unlocked.
You can see why a bent bolt handle was needed. Typical two lug, 90 degree bolt throw.
>>30647607
that shit is titties
Bolt open.
Holy shit a five round internal magazine!
Is it in .303 British?
Bolt face, note the claw extractor. Another Mauser design.
>>30647756
Yes.
Chamber.
Now to take it apart.
Once the bolt is rearward it contacts a steel button.
Fucling nice find.
Auction/private sale or apology from your distributor for 380 glocks?
You pretty much just press the button and continue to move the bolt rearward until it pops off the rails.
Pretty simple.
Neet. I love you boof
>>30647810
A bit of each.
Lastly, a safety on the bottom. It was pressed with your middle finger and really awkward.
Also picked this up, but that's for another time.
And yes, it's a .38
Well....I didn't know I needed this until just now.
Seriously though you should tell Ian about this.
BOOF TIME BEST TIME
Boof you beautiful motherfucker any back story on how you came to aquired it?
Did you buy this just so you would have a reason to invite Ian over to your house?
>>30647607
I can't decide if it's hideous or pretty
Is it nitro proofed?
Any proofs as it was a prototype?
Carve a /k/ into the stock. And paint it hot pink.
Is it a 90° bolt rotation?
>>30647882
Yes, see >>30647638
There where several "prototypes", 1901-1905. The rifle started looking like the patent >>30647699 and ended looking like this.
After his design was rejected John started working with Moubray Farquhar, another designer to improve it. The later models such as mine and this one are examples of this.
>>30647853
That is a cracken nice webbly
>>30647957
Missed that stanp. Thanks.
This needs to be shot.
You should show this to the guys at C&Rsenal, I bet they would love to use it in their WWI series.
>>30647957
Boof, what is to your knowledge the first automatic rifle?
The Winchester historian claims JMB built the first one in 1877 from a model 76 by putting a flapper on a lever on the muzzle that cycled the bolt via muzzle blast. The prototype is on display in Cody, WY.
>>30647853
gotta love me some auto-revolver
how much did you pay for each one?
>>30647607
Niggah you should send this shit to Forgotten Weapons.
>>30647607
Hi neighbour, that frankly is a nice Forgotten Weapon you've got there. Mind if I bring the camera back and take a look at it?
>>30648073
That's what I thought was the first commercially successful one was.
>>30648680
Do you have any ultramatic part kits left?
Every time I see a BOOF that I almost feel overwhelmed. It's like seeing a living legend that you didn't think was real, and only existed in screen caps.
>>30648680
I think your right.
I doubt it was the first. But it seems to be the first to have any kind of sizeable production.
Personally the mondragon is may favorite of the early SLR.
And the m1885 potato digger my favorite pre 20th century mg
>>30648859
A few.
>>30649172
Wasn't the Mondragón the first to see combat?
>>30647607
Christ. did this person not have human hands or something? Shame the bullpen bolt action never caught on but I suppose it had too many problems to benefits when just cutting down normal rifles and maybe giving special ammunition made more financial sense.
>>30648915
Shut up boof
>>30647853
>lever safety on revolver
I know it's stupid but damn if it's not sexy.
bubba it
That looks awfully long for a bullpup. Better cut it down a bit.
>all these chop posts
What did he do...
>>30648073
Mershon & Hollingsworth had a patent for a self-cocking revolver around 1863, they did also build a spring driven percussion revolving rifle that could fire in a fully automatic mode.
That might be the first.
>>30650002
Pic related
>>30647853
>Webley Fosberry and a thorneycroft
FUCKING HELL boof, I'D GIVE MY LEFT NUT TO BE YOU.
>>30648125
/fuckin' thread.
>>30650002
Thats neat as hell. Any idea when, or if it ever saw production?
Btw the story behind the auto 1876 is pretty funny
>our lord and savior shooting trap with bros
>one bro is short AF
>notices manlets muzzle blast blowing grass around for good distance
>lightbulb.exe
>makes bet he'll have a working full auto gun by supper the next day
>its done by 3pm
If you're here, dude, please post pic of strawberry Swarovski with timestamp.
Just to show we have a full BOOF house.
>>30650234
Pic related is their revolver, it started as a .44 Colt Model 1860. Their revolver patent (39,825) dates to 1863.
Their rifle I posted in >>30650192 and the patent for that dates to 1855. https://sportingoutdoors.blogspot.com/2008/02/mershon-and-hollingsworth-revolving.html
Production of the rifles was thus around the mid to late 1850's.
Remaining number unknown, total produced unknown, further details of the company beyond their patents is unknown.
But yes, they made an automatic black powder revolving rifle.
>>30649947
He cut a mosin in half
>>30647607
You should post in the rare guns game thread you'll win for sure. Also I'm really jelly Boof
>>30647607
Dude you should really let Ian do a video on it.
>>30650642
I'm considering it, there seems to be a lot of people who want him to review it.
>>30650223
I'm going to make a thread in the future dissembling it, just wait.
>>30650446
Holy shit, this thing!
>>30651239
It goes back earlier, patent US12470 from 1855 is it, but displays a revolver.
The nature of our invention relates to the` providing of a reservoir of power capable off rotating the cylinder and operating a cock or hammer in concert, so as to produce two or more discharges from a lire-arm without replenishing said power; also, in combining a reservoir ot' power with a rotating toothed escape-wheel in such manner that at each periodical releasement of said escape-wheel by the operation ot' a trigger and anchor-escapernent the reservoir of power will rotate the cha-mbered breech to the required distance and trip an independent hammer simultaneously; also, in combining a rotating chambered breech with a reservoir of power, so that by the periodical releasement of said reservoir by means of an escape-wheel, trigger, and an anchorescapement said chambers shall be caused to ro tate to theirrequired distance and meet theblow of the hammer at the exact instant that each chamber in succession comes opposite the barrel; also, in combining a reservoir of power with an independent cock or hammer, so that by the periodical release of said reservoir ot' power said hammer shall .be tripped at the exact moment that each chamber 'of the series comes opposite the barrel also, in so combining the stock with the tire-arm that by turning said stock a spring or springs shall be wound up which shall be capable of actuating the tire-arm for a series of discharges
>>30651239
Do eet. PM Ian.
>BOOF and Ian doing a video together
please
please I want this so much
>>30651580
This. PM Ian.
Also make him acknowledge /k/ because we love him.
How comfortable is it when shouldered?
>>30647607
>Boof is still alive and posting cool shit
There is still hope.
>>30647607
>Its a BOOF thread
FUCK YES
>>30651706
Please, BOOF, do it.
>>30647619
An Oppenheimer thread AND a Boof thread? Today was a good day.
>>30652875
I didn't even shoot my AK
Let Ian from Forgotten Weapons molest it for all of our viewing needs.
>>30652895
"As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require an AK, it is good.'"
>>30647607
Thanks for sharing OP. Nice gun
>>30647810
Oh god is boof that poor guy who got sent a small mountain of glocks? I asume that worked out some how then?
>>30647607
Oh shit man I thought you were just on operatorchan, nice gun
So is Boof a FFL? I've seen the screen cap with the 380 Glocks. (lol) So what else has this master of the arts did here on this Venezuelan Toiletpaper Blackmarket?
>>30653965
not being cancer like that loser trip who posts undertale like a year after its popularity sank to nothing, or the scrawny skellington tripfaggot who thinks he can take out 3 armed men
BOOF actually contributes as you can clearly see in this thread.
>>30647853
Did the Pancor Jackhammer stole the pattern on that cylinder ?
>>30653687
>Oh shit man I thought you were just on operatorchan, nice gun
I just wished he'd make separate threads since the thread he posts in is restricted for chatting.
>>30653965
He owns a gunstore.
I saw him post on /jp/ a couple times.
Fucking awesome to get hold of such a piece of history though. I'm seriously jealous.
>>30655874
That's condensed milk (a sweetener for many brownie recipes) not cum.Nobody has cum like that
>>30655936
>That's condensed milk (a sweetener for many brownie recipes) not cum.Nobody has cum like that
You're acting like I didn't follow up with >>30655885
>>30647706
>ian
actually thats not a bad idea.
maybe contact him and have him do a vid
>>30655954
Didn't press update m8
>>30655801
you need to spend some time in some threads other than the /arg/ threads
>>30651239
Do you have an email I could come act you at? I wanna make modern reproductions of rare/old/etc... rifles. I would like to start with this.