>ywn never fight in the Crusades
>ywn be in the vanguard in battle
>ywn stare down your infedel enemy before you see the whites of his eyes as you plunge your sword into his gut
>ywn pray with your brethren before and after battle
How does /k/ deal with this feel?
Also post swords and armour
>>30647144
>>30647144
>>30647144
>you will never die in covered in your own guts, shit and blood
>you will never die horribly of infection by a minor arrow wound
>you will never have your chest caved in with a maul and die in agony because your gasps for air cause your shattered ribs to puncture your lungs deeper
leave child, war is awful especially medieval war
>>30647144
>not a /k/ in the 10th century thread
fuck off
>I can't remove kebab with the Pope's blessing
>I can't fight to reclaim the Holy Land
... yet
>>30647193
Do people even post this seriously anymore or is it just b8?
We can have modern crusades against mudslimes.
>>30647298
Here you go friend >>30647611
>>30647714
>>30647728
>>30647742
>>30647774
>>30647828
>>30647742
I think I found a new fetish
>>30647193
>>30647874
go to big LARPS in european countries. the girls are hot and they actually have good looking armor
Why is Medieval armour so /fa/ lads?
>>30648078
because men really want to wear steel plates and hit eachother with sharp metal objects.
>>30647144
>not losing wars repeatedly
im ok with this
>>30647210
>you will never have your chest caved in with a maul
Just wear some plate senpai, no worries
>>30647144
>you will never be a mercenary spilling christian and muslim blood for the highest bidder
fuck this gay earth
>>30647867
>>30647193
Contrarianism is cute.
>>30647466
>provable historical fact is bait
/pol/ and /k/, two peas in a pod
>>30648644
Pit your trip back on muslimbro.
>>30648929
are you triggered yet?
>>30647193
What's really funny is how everyone blames the Pope, but he was utterly powerless to stop crusaders from being sadistic fuckers once they left.
>>30648644
see
>>30647575
It's not hard, I was able to debunk all of the claims in the original pic with a few minutes of googling. Some of the sources listed in the pic even disprove the claims made. Shoo, go be a faggot somewhere else.
>>30649466
>first line
>ignores the raiding, enslaving, raping, murdering and conquering and "debunks" conversions
and... into the trash it goes
>also implying the end of Byzantium is necessary for the Renaissance to take place, or that the seeds of Renaissance philosophy were developed in the times of the crusades and not at least a century later, if not more
literally nigger tier history here
>>30649761
>raiding, enslaving, raping, murdering and conquering
"Non-Christians were seen as lacking rights possessed by Christians" that's in the source provided in the picture. And one of the sources provided also claimed that the Teutonic knights doing the raiding and marauding were rogue deserters i.e. not acting under the command of the Pope.
>also implying the end of Byzantium is necessary for the Renaissance to take place, or that the seeds of Renaissance philosophy were developed in the times of the crusades and not at least a century later, if not more
"Macedonian Renaissance is a label sometimes used to describe the period of the Macedonian dynasty (Armenian dynasty) of the Byzantine Empire (867-1056)" taken from wikipedia.
>>30650055
>i.e. not acting under the command of the Pope.
>that makes it OK!
when the crusaders sacked Constantinople, was that another unsanctioned act?
>Macedonian Renaissance
The retard who wrote the rebuttal is specifically talking about the European Renaissance that started in Venice, not some other Renaissance.
>>30650099
>>i.e. not acting under the command of the Pope.
>>that makes it OK!
No, that only means that you can't blame the ebil crusaders for it because it wasn't an act of the crusaders, it was an act of deserters and therefore it was unsanctioned
"Mutinous Crusader armies captured, looted, and destroyed parts of Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire" from the wiki page provided in the picture.
>The retard who wrote the rebuttal is specifically talking about the European Renaissance that started in Venice, not some other Renaissance.
That doesn't conflict with what >>30647575 has. Unless I'm reading it wrong, it's not conflicting.
>>30647298
Here is some primary source medeival /k/, St. Brendan literally calling POG knights mallninjas:
"You cover your horses with silk, and plume your armor with I know not what sort of rags; you paint your shields and your saddles; you adorn your bits and spurs with gold and silver and precious stones, and then in all this glory you rush to your ruin with fearful wrath and fearless folly. Are these the trappings of a warrior or are they not rather the trinkets of a woman? Do you think the swords of your foes will be turned back by your gold, spare your jewels or be unable to pierce your silks?"
Source (which is a great, great read. VERY profound if you are a Christian man but great for anyone interested in this sort of thing):
http://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/344bern2.html
>Thus in a wonderous and unique manner they appear gentler than lambs, yet fiercer than lions. I do not know if it would be more appropriate to refer to them as monks or as soldiers, unless perhaps it would be better to recognize them as being both. Indeed they lack neither monastic meekness nor military might. What can we say of this, except that this has been done by the Lord, and it is marvelous in our eyes. These are the picked troops of God, whom he has recruited from the ends of the earth; the valiant men of Israel chosen to guard well and faithfully that tomb which is the bed of the true Solomon, each man sword in hand, and superbly trained to war.
>Of course the facade of this temple is adorned, but with weapons rather than with jewels, and in place of the ancient golden crowns, its walls are hung round about with shields. In place of candlesticks, censers and ewers, this house is well furnished with saddles, bits and lances. By all these signs our knights clearly show that they are animated by the same zeal for the house of God which of old passionately inflamed their leader himself when he armed his most holy hands, not indeed with a sword, but with a whip.
>>30650328
Your point does not conflict, but it is irrelevant. The downfall of Byzantium was not a prerequisite for the (Venetian) Renaissance in any way, whereas the "rebuttal" explicitly states that it is a prerequisite.
>>30650328
>No, that only means that you can't blame the ebil crusaders for it because it wasn't an act of the crusaders, it was an act of deserters and therefore it was unsanctioned
The "mutiny" is in the context of the Pope's desires, i.e. a mutiny against a person who had no actual role in the crusades other than as a spiritual leader.
The actual military leaders of the 4th Crusade were the ones who came up with the plan to divide up Byzantium between themselves and Venice. Therefore, the crusaders were not "deserters" at all, or even mutineers (unless you somehow consider the Pope to be the real leader of the Crusades in a political and/or military sense). The entirety of the crusader army participated in the sacking of Constantinople.
>>30647144
Anyone ever fantasize about how the course of history would be changed if you were to travel back in time to to the Crusades and give a single modern rifle and, say, 50k rounds of ammo to any person of your choosing?
>>30650585
True, my bad I misread the article. But that doesn't change the other points of the post.
>>30647144
>>30647144
oreganos
>>30650807
all the other "points" were crap.
we already addressed the moved goalposts on point #1 and the multiple howlers on byzantium, and missing the timeline of the Renaissance by two centuries.
it excuses attacks on non-muslims (which were contradictory to the stated goals of the crusades) by claiming europe was fragmented politically (true, but hardly an excuse for all the side trips the crusades took).
the statement regarding one-way oppression of muslims by europeans is a massive strawman that does not even bear addressing. i will say that the crusader sacking of constantinople was arguably one of the greatest contributions to the eventual fall of Byzantium to the ottoman empire, thus putting europe in its greatest peril from islam since the moorish advance.
lastly the statement that converting saxons to christianity is somehow part of the crusades, or that it is key to european dominance is pure horseshit. look at the timeline of the holy roman empire, as well as the fact that later european dominance was an italian, british, spanish, dutch and Portuguese endeavor, not German/Saxon/whatever.
>>30647144
oreganosss
>>30650764
>would be changed
it wouldn't
>tfw 13th century pomeranian bootblack
>son of a cooper
>mother died in childbirth
>get consumption at age 3, nearly die
>at age 20 decide to move to france where everything reeks of sewage slightly less
>fight in the battle of agincourt
>get shot
JUST
>>30648099
This
>>30647144
>ywn never fight in the Crusades
Personally I'm not sure I'd want to fight in a crusade it sounds pointless
>ywn be in the vanguard in battle
We'll see
>ywn stare down your infedel enemy before you see the whites of his eyes as you plunge your sword into his gut
I'd rather a bullet through his skull
>ywn pray with your brethren before and after battle
I'm sure it'll happen
How does /k/ deal with this feel?
Also post swords and armour
New to /k/
>>30650990
ISIS detected
KILL THE SARACEN HEATHENS
DEATH TO THE HORDE
I was in such a hurry to get into the middle of a firefight that when I jumped out of the helicopter, I forgot my parachute. I turned around and went back for it then parachuted into an artillery barrage with nothing shielding me other than a drive on rag and CLP. I used the lubricant to slide fast into the enemy positions and cut their throats using a cotter pin and bravery.
After silencing their guns and making widows of their wives, I moved onward to kill their president by draining his blood using a McDonalds straw and tire pump. He begged for his like but I told him the only way to live was to present Mila Kunis in lingerie.
>>30647193
Hajim get the goat lube!
>>30650937
You don't think that one person with this seemingly magic killing machine would be revered as some sort of demigod and have armies lay down their arms at his feet?
>>30651997
not when he dies just like everyone else
>>30647144
Here in Spain (at least Hispania/Iberia at that time) a fucking shit ton of orders were created.. but almost nobody know they even existed not even here...
>>30652242
Medieval 2 had knights of Santiago in it. Good cab unit
>>30652933
Cav
>>30647728
Not having the file name as finding a chink in the armor
>>30647575
>the end of Byzantium was necessary to start the age of European Dominance
But didn't that result in the Ottomans which was probably one of the most powerful muslim nations ever which led to numerous wars and genocides with christians, the last knightly order being forced out of the levant, and the kidnapping and enslaving of millions of europeans by barbary pirates?
also that sacking wasn't what ended byzantium.
Eventually Europe rose to complete dominance but i doubt venicians were actually planning for the renaissance to happen like some sort of ultimate plot.
Anyone got any cool crusader wallpapers?
>>30650990
Lurk more newfag
>>30647144
anyone is free to go help kill ISIS for religious reasons at any time
>>30653978
OP doesn't realize that dozens of people have left to do this. Just wants fantasies about killing innocent Muslims most likely.
>>30654001
>Muslims
>Innocent
Bumping for ebin bread
