What's your excuse for not putting sandbags around your house?
>>30636039
uh
Property value?
Why the fuck would i do that
>>30636039
I've concealed my hescos with shrubbery.
Sandbags rot.
>>30636039
bc sandbags are heavy desu
>>30636039
that look like poopoo stack
>>30636039
I don't have any sand to put in them and I'm not about to pay for any sand unless it's going in my pocket.
>>30636039
Bugs.
Fire ants, mostly.
Beat your face.
>>30636239
do bugs and ants like sand or something?
>>30636039
They are in the walls.
>>30636261
Hmmmm...not sure if my sarcasm detector needs recalibrazion.
Yes.
>>30636039
Because if an object enters my property at a speed greater than 600fps, my house automatically withdraws into the ground like stubby penis in an ice fishing accident. My slanted Chobham roof deflects any incoming fire away, and the turrets I've made from Mini-14's and old lawnmowers don't rely on the power grid. Vehicles and infantry would be held up by the Roman fossam encircling the property, which I have thickly planted with giant hogweed and poison ivy. I've run drainage tiling out from the house in every direction, to be used for improvised Bangalore torpedoes.
Why the fuck would I need sandbags?
but my house is made of reinforced concrete? why would i need more protection?
>>30636261
Yes. They eat sand.
implying I do not
It looks better if you set them up inside the house rather than outside.
>>30636039
california
>>30636066
>hescos
So that's what those are called.
>>30636039
HOA said no elevated firing positions
>>30636261
literally in tears right now
>>30636419
Why would you not need more protection?
>>30636039
No excuse. Come over and help me fill sand bags.
I bet you didn't even know you're supposed to turn them inside out before you fill them.
>>30636039
Uhh.. I live in an apartment?
>>30636039
I need some really good meth
>>30636039
Its called "earth bag construction" and its how I plan on building all my raised beds and sauna/sweatlodge in my yard soon.
Sandbags? Barbed wire? Must be gardening right?
>>30636053
You coat it in concrete and paint it to add property value through improvement. Best way to build a car stopping front fence too.
>>30638626
nice idea
>Tyrone takes cover while he pops a few through my window
No thanks
>>30638381
holy shit do they actually like sand, I thought they ate fucking leaves or something not sand
>>30636039
My neighbors think I'm weird enough as it is
>mfw saving up for a house
>mfw going to fill the walls in the house with sandbags
>mfw going to put curtains in the windows, then barricade behind the curtain and fill in with sandbags, then cover up with drywall
>from the outside people will only see a regular window with curtains
>from the inside there will be no window, only a regular wall (filled with sandbags)
>mfw I will cheaply and quietly make my house a fortress
>mfw it should also help with insulation for heat and sound
convince me not to
>>30637658
This.
I have tactical cactus surrounding my house
This method will also fortify your virginity. Godspeed
>>30641035
>convince me not to
If you do that, you will be /k/ man
>>30641343
Seriously tho I'm worried it might trap moisture or something.
>>30641353
I swear upon sergei himself i will best you.
Sandbag house? Heh.
Meet HESCO house.
I would be hard to wire, for one, unless you want a false wall on the inside too, with a good amount of space inbetween it, cutting down on your useable square footage.
Also, what are you going to do about your roof?
These things have gotten quite popular here in euroland. At various heights, full fence to knee height, these can be found commonly around town.
Not as good as hesco or sandbags, these don't tend to negatively affect property value. It'd still take a significant amount of fire to get through them. If you do shoot through them, the top rocks just spill down to cover the hole.
>>30641068
kek
>>30641370
>i will best you
>HESCO house
Sure put your money where you want.
>roof
Hmmm... Line that with sandbags? Honestly though I can probably get sheets of steel for pretty cheap.
>>30636039
I haven't filled them yet. Also considering alternative stuff cus I live in small town.
>has camo net curtains.
>>30641388
>squares full of sand
>expensive
Lel
>>30641388
A sandbag roof, to be effective, would be too heavy because it wont be able to bear loads at an angle.
You would have to go with good ole steel.
>>30641375
>Climb on it easily
>Put charges
>no wall
>>30641375
Can confirm. My hilltop mansion has raised in value after my neighbours thought its a stylistic addition to it, ignorant fools. Chateauneuf de Grasse, near Nice.
>>30641421
>expensive
More than bags, I skimp where I can to have money when it matters.
>too heavy
You're probably right. I might be able to use cheap roofing steel (that corrugated shit), sandwich a thin layer of sand and put another layer of roofing steel. Would be likely light enough, and the two layers of steel would provide some protection while being cheap.
>>30641426
It's for a house, not a fortress.
Get yourself a Flak tower if you want real defense capability. So strong that the allied forces couldn't even bring it down effectively after the germans surrendered.
>>30641442
I feel like a sand layer that thin would not be effective at all and be a waste of time.
Better to just use steel, imo.
>saveing money on your life
That money you saved can be put towards your casket, fucboi.
>>30641444
Ha, that's the one in Vienna that the allies tried tearing down in '46 but couldn't so they left it a lone and the city turned it into a zoo.
They were built hella good.
Oldskool zombie defense ;)
>>30641456
I don't remember how much explosives they used up trying to dent those things, but it just wasn't effective at all.
It's too bad most of these are closed to the public. Could've done some pretty awesome shit with these.
>>30641450
>not having priorities
When you run out of ammo because you spent too much on big boxes to hold sand I'll be sure to drop a sandbag on your boipucci corpse
>>30641468
>your rich sand is more expensive than my poorfag sand.
Pffft, some people have jobs, kid. I can afford sand and ammo.
After tyrone rapes your corpse ill use your inferior dwelling as an outhouse/ dead nigger storage.
>>30641444
>>30641467
>The flak towers, in the design of which Hitler took personal interest, and for which he even made some sketches, were constructed in six months. The priority of the project was such that the German national rail schedule was altered to facilitate the shipment of concrete, steel and timber to the construction sites.
>6 months and altered the national rail schedule
holy fuck
>>30641458
looks like something from Vauban
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
>>30641444
>>30641467
What kind of damage would Fat Man or Little Boy have done to the Flack Towers?
>>30641488
You'll be buying inferior sand with your bad monetary choices, and you'll surely die in the very first conflict.
>>30636039
Charming 1914 house with delightful World War I themed exterior elements. Craftsman style, 3 bed, 2 bath, plus trenches and option for buried artillery emplacement. Must see.
>>30641502
>What kind of damage would Fat Man or Little Boy have done to the Flack Towers?
Directly above? Probably a good bit of damage.
Near miss (in nuclear terms)? Not much. It'd burn the shit out of people inside of course, but the structure would remain standing.
>>30641502
Direct hit = gone, just like any fortress.
Other than that, I think they do have plans for it and what kind of forces it can take from different directions - basic construction engineering, really - if the blast wave is larger than those, it will fall, if not, then it stands.
Heat wave wouldn't probably matter much as concrete is very hard to burn.
>>30641509
Pfff, after the dindus plop an rpg-7 sold by leland lee though your impotent defenses, your shrapnel infused corpse will wish it had made the true investment.
Me? Ill just hear a slight knock on the wall, before i kek mightily.
>>30641520
The walls were 11 feet thick. I dont know if it would cook them.
>>30640967
If you really didn't know, they build their nests in sand. So you end up with an ant infestation.
>>30636039
We already have concentration camp tier barbed wiring and concrete walls.
>>30636039
Because I filled enough of those fucking things. Fuck you OP.
>>30641551
>The walls were 11 feet thick. I dont know if it would cook them.
Flak towers had windows and the rooftop doors were not that thick either. Most windows were filled up after the war to keep animals out.
The fire & heat would've penetrated the structure, not because of the walls letting it in, but because the windows & the (rooftop) doors.
>>30641564
>We already have concentration camp tier barbed wiring and concrete walls.
Not high enough. Also concentration camps had at least double fencing. :)
>>30641488
Will there be a sign outside saying "dead nigger storage"?
>>30641551
That is also a very likely possibility.
I think some cold-war era ICBM launch complexes were so well protected that they could survive very, very near hits from nukes.
Disabling them more likely meant that the silo was tilted or moved by the blast wave moving ground - instead of being destroyed.
So, keeping this in mind, a nuclear detonation somewhere ABOVE the flak tower probably would not bring it down. A hit directly on it would destroy it and a hit close enough to move the foundations might cause indirect damage.
>>30641571
>tfw no star fort home
>>30641575
Of course.
>>30641588
Also, some general stuff about blast shelters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_shelter
>>30636415
underrated post
>>30636039
I agree
There's really no reason not to, and the benefits are evident
>>30636039
I'm not a psychopath with violent tendencies.
>>30641571
>baby star fort
I want one.
>>30641690
We all do.
I also wonder what a new construction island fort would cost. :P
>>30637682
Then leave
I have Bessa block walls and since I built the house myself, they are filled with sand and gravel.
Living in a storm prone area, having thick shutters on all the windows is not remarkable either.
>>30641502
The structure would be sound, if not badly damaged from Little Boy as long as it was no closer than 300 Meters. Any closer than that and collapse becomes an increasing probability.
However, the tower was not sealed against blast effects, and at that distance, the overpressure would find its way into the structure and kill or seriously wound most inside.
I am not 100% but I would imagine that this lack of protection would show that the Flak Tower is no better than any other reinforced concrete building at protection from nuclear weapons when it comes to the survivability of the occupants.
>>30642271
Howdy Oppenheimer.
What do you think that would an above ground structure have to look like in order to withstand a point-blank blast from a Little Boy?
And what would one have to look like for modern thermonuclear weapons?
