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Lets see them belt rigs /k/
the bombers sit low enough to not interfere with the PC, and they're a hell of a lot slicker than the tacos.
>>30633018
>Belt addition
But I don't even belt :(
>>30633227
>addition
>edition
Kill me plz
It's time to operate
>>30633579
u lost?
>>30633579
Did you just buy it ? For some reason I can't take seriously anyone who's camo looks completely new.
Yes, even if you spent 20 years in the army and just bought/given another pair.
>>30633579
>camo not out
kys
>>30633579
>that helmet seems so familiar
Just who are you stranger?
>>30633227
I dislike most patches especially the anime ones but I can certainly appreciate the WH40k in the /k/ setting.
>>30633579
What is that on your chest? tourniquet?
So I'm guessing level 3 steel plates are absolute worthless shit since M193 punches right through?
Does anyone know at what distance out of a 20" barrel M193 fails to defeat level 3 steel?
It is a shame since I found a pretty good deal on some level 3 steels with what seems like a very capable anti-spall coating that doesn't separate with 3 shots like AR500 does.
Took my belt & daypack out for a hike. Been hiking pretty regularly with my MR pack with the green daypack piggybacking on it pretty regularly. Getting those quads to decent levels.
>>30633702
The belt got streamlined since the photo and looks like this now.
>>30633579
>>30633018
I don't have a ton of shit on my belt. Just my VP9, a second mag for said VP9, knife, and dump pouch.
>>30633702
Does shooting an AR left handed actually bother you? I knew a dude in the army that would bitch about it.
>>30633734
It's all about training and practice.
The only thing that sucks is that I can't speed reload as fast as a practiced right handed person. Otherwise, it's fine. I can shoot and retention reload no problem. The right handed selector switch is usable with my trigger finger; in training it flips on and off every time the rifle raises and lowers, in real life it stays set to 'kill' for the duration of combat and I don't bother with it.
>>30633689
>hating anime
Please >>>/somewhere else/
>>30633689
Don't fuck around with AR500 plates. The distance depends because M193 is notorious for wild velocity swings.
AT Armor lowered the price on their level IV ceramics from $189 to $169 since the Dallas shootings. Shellback Tactical is selling a pair of level IV plates for $300.
>>30633636
>>30633671
Watch out, we got some tier 0 operators here, badass alert!
Alright boys, it's payday, so that means starting my war belt build.
My intention is to have a 2-3 magazine rig for my AK, mostly to get me through a carbine course or to slap on for the next Day of Rage.
So what color or color-combo should I do, and why?
>Solid colors only
>>30633812
I kinda miss my velocity Systems operator belt.
GQ, I need help, I'm am emailing back and forth with a guy over a used Banshee. I know there have been a new round of knock offs lately, what is a sure fire way to spot a knockoff? I asked for a pic of the inside back panel to look for the Shellback tag, is this sufficient?
>>30633892
why did you get rid of it
>>30633806
Ah don't be so triggered. I don't hate anime. I like anime. I just dislike anime patches.
>>30633836
I found some level 3 plates with a good anti spall coat for $135 shipped...It should consistently stop M855 which is what the military uses right?
Yeah I've found a couple of places that have a pair of level 4 ceramics for $300. I would go with that but I was trying to stick with steel for multi hit capability.
The plate market is fucking stupid. AR500 wants $290 for a pair of level 3+ plates with their shit spall coat that comes off after 3 shots, entirely defeating the purpose of multi hit steel. For $10 more you can get level 4 ceramics that will weigh half as much.
It is like the consumers of these products are stupid hick gun nuts.
>>30633876
>So what color or color-combo should I do, and why?
I'm going to be boring here.
Coyote Brown
Reason: Practicality. I've seen too many people end up regretting their purchase of black gear because it lacks the concealment properties of coyote. Coyote brown is versatile for all different terrains and seasons.
Gear for fighting should be both practical and versatile.
>>30633904
I wish i knew the answer to this.
>>30633876
Something I've never seen before, grey belt/ranger green pouches.
>>30633943
Is olive useful about the same as coyote?
>>30633928
It will stop M855 which is what some of the military kind of uses. It may not stop M855A1, which is what they are currently transitioning to and is already being issued to deployed units.
Multi-hit from steel is a fucking meme, ceramics still can stop multiple rounds. All the level III ceramic plates have to stop 6 shots of M80 ball. Most any level IV plate will do that even though it's not technically a rating requirement.
>>30633959
Well I appreciate it, I just don't know if Shellback/ TAG ever did any Banshees that didn't have a tag. The one pic he did send before I asked specifically for one didn't have a tag in sight, but the carry handle could have been hiding it.
>>30633876
Coyote, unless you're in Alaska it probably blends in best to must US terrain. Plus it goes well with virtually every camo pattern, the same can't be said for OD IMO.
>>30633910
got too small for me,
>>30633982
>Is olive useful about the same as coyote?
I'd say no. Greens are specifically geared towards camouflaging you against vegetation which is sparse in different areas and seasons. Browns are mud, grass, bark, sand, etc. which are almost universally omnipresent.
>>30633579
Fuckin A did we get a new black dude around these parts? Secure that tourniquet a bit better.
>>30633227
Is belt addition possible?
>>30633959
Thanks anyway but I found the tag in one of the pics, you can just barely see it.
So $155.00 for a LNIB Banshee, not too bad eh? No liquidation pricing but still better than current pricing.
>>30633985
Cool thanks for the info man.
Any idea how many reasonably spaced hits of M193 or M855/M855A1 a level 4 ceramic can stop? Are you just supposed to stock up on multiple sets of plates?
>>30634055
You should never have a plan where you rely on plates. Think of them as your "get out of jail free card" for being too slow or stupid, not something that you should be constantly blowing through.
>>30634078
I'm not really doing the survivalist thing. More the militia thing.
>>30633892
Hey Skeletor
What variable glass would you recommend a for a guy who is building an AR-15
>>30634104
Support your local militia. Can't wait to move to SW TX and join one of the good units out there.
That being said does anyone have any experience with this ruck? I'll thinking about getting it and mounting it on an ALICE frame.
>>30634113
depends on your budget.
but honestly the Trijicon Accupoint/Accupowers are probably the best for the money with its glass quality and features vs cost.
>>30634055
No real way to say for sure because this isn't a rating requirement. If you are talking about reasonably spaced, probably as many as you can fit on the plate.
As for stocking up on plates, most departments or military units want to have at the very least 10% extra equipment in case of random breakage (eg: Johnny slipped down the stairs and landed on his back plate hard). This is hard to swing for an individual but in a militia context this still holds true.
>>30634113
Budget? Some brands to look into include Trijicon, Nightforce, Vortex, US Optics, and Leupold.
>>30634165
a total of 4k to waste on glass alone.
But I'd like to keep between 1-2k usd
I plan on fitting 2 rifles
>>30634147
I looked at the accupoints but the second focal plane got me skittish
10/10 HAPPENING
My card got billed for my AWS PC. Should be shipping soon.
>>30634301
well my nightforce is SFP, honestly unless you're doing on the fly ranging on various magnifications its not a huge deal since you can just put it on max magnification and do your ranging.
>>30634341
Your gonna need more than plates to protect that body, fatso
>>30634341
that..that uh carrier is a tad small
>>30634389
>>30634402
That's why I ordered a second plate carrier
Gotta protect my party keg
>>30634389
Could .22lr penetrate all that fat?
>>30634301
I would say SFP is okay depending on magnification range and intended purpose. On a long range precision gun with a mag range like 3-15x or 5-25x, FFP is the ticket because the top end magnification is so damn high it may be suboptimal given mirage and other shit. On a short range carbine for 0-500 or 0-600 yards, SFP is acceptable. You likely aren't going to be milling targets with a 1-6x or 1-4x, since in your effective ranges, you are likely going to be using heuristic range estimation methods, and you have 30 rounds on tap if the first round is not on target.
>>30634410
oh good then! you may now oper8 m8
>>30634033
Yes, belt+belt = double belt.
>>30633689
Yeah it is fitting for /k/. I've been into WH40K since I was 11, and have read Dan Abnett/the Eisenhorn series for about as long.
So of course I'm gonna rep inquisition.
>>30634341
>>30634449
thanks for the advice guys.
>>30634341
When the happening starts you'll lose a lot of that weight... but the extra skin... idk...
>>30634705
What is that back panel setup? Looks comfy.
>>30634911
It's the MAV X-harness, and it is comfy. Way better than the straps it comes with.
>>30633282
I just through up in my mouth a little bit
>>30633702
TRIGGERED
So I've been looking into starting the gear game, as I have my firearms nearly rounded out...
I'm looking for camo that would work well in Florida.
Particularly for suburban type areas and thick scrub, with lots of palmetto plants and shit. Practically jungle terrain.
>>30634705
Dan Abnett was most of my 9th and 10th grade reading.
I wish I had the free time to do play still.
>>30634341
You won't be disappointed buddy. I'm glad I shelled out the extra dosh to get something at least acceptably durable.
On a friendly side note, you should start dieting and exercising man. As much as it our civic duty to protect the constitution as best we can and remain armed and educated citizens, we also need to keep fit and healthy. There are lots of resources out there to help. Go for it man.
>>30635102
As much as it pains me to say it guys, pic related wasn't me it was from arfcom
Did you get your carrier yet?
>>30635067
Multicam Tropic
>>30635125
Haha we got fucking rolled.
Yeah I did, just yesterday.
I went with multicam.
I should get some pictures of it.
>>30635067
Good, but expensive:
MultiCam Tropic
ATACS FG
Pencott Greenzone
Good, but not too expensive:
MARPAT Woodland
>>30633579
Why do you wear the badge of the Lupercal when you are clearly from the Salamanders Legion?
>>30634705
>>30635102
>Dan Abnett
Best author in the whole damn franchise. Eisenhorn was on a new level over the beer and chips sci-fi most others do.
>>30634991
Assault hand loaded deadly high capacity clipazines
>>30635159
Thank you!
>>30635188
And out of the first three, which would you say is best? Multicam tropic does look cool as fuck.
>>30635306
mutlicam tropics gunna be easiest to find, Pencott would be a close second but kinda looks like puke imo but it really does work.
ATACS is meh, but has a good marketing team
![mctropic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8oQ0eM1.jpg "mctropic[1].jpg")
>>30635306
I have personally had a lot of luck with ATACS, but that was in the woods around Olympia WA. The only thing I had in MultiCam Tropic was a boonie hat. It was a small sample, but in my experience it was zero percent less effective than ATACS FG. I would not be surprised to hear from someone with more experience on the patterns that Tropic was even better.
>>30634029
i was grappling with this decision for awhile. i went with coyote because it's much easier to darken a light color than lighten a dark color.
>>30635416
>it's much easier to darken a light color than lighten a dark color
Right you are sir.
>>30635416
>>30635396
This is why I actually like multicam in western Oregon. Many people would say go with something darker like MARPAT but imo it's so dark it looks black when it catches shadows. To my eyes at least plain multicam seems to blend with the lighting much more efficiently.
Old school woodland also too dark
>>30635416
That's why I went with the tan colored Fjallraven Keb pants. While in the woods, I found that I could just rub charcoal or mud on them to bring the overall brightness down.
>>30635396
>>30635389
Thanks to the both of you.
To be honest, I have practically no gear besides older woodland surplus stuff, and I obviously want to branch out from that with something a little more effective.
A plate carrier will probably be my first buy. It's a scary world, the gear world... I don't know the reliable manufacturers and shit, like I do with firearms.
I guess I'd better lurk more, huh?
>>30635566
>I guess I'd better lurk more, huh?
Guess so. Just a word of warning though, camo is one of those things where people will just talk straight out of their ass about it without any legitimate reasoning or experience. On here I've routinely seen people say things that would make you facepalm so hard that you'd end up with a black eye.
>>30635776
Digging the mexican digital. Similar to digi flora
What's a good steel plate that's lv3 and not too expensive?
>>30635849
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY. DO. NOT. BUY. STEEL.
Hey faggots, I'm the anon that was asking about what to put in SADF pattern 83 rig, and what you guys carried. Well I read all your advice and started to put together some stuff. Here's a pic of some of the stuff i grabbed from around the house earlier today, some has been swapped out and some new things added since then. Note though this isnt a bugoutbag What's here is
>7 AR mags (need more 30rders!)
>atlas knee and elbow pads
>face mask(couldn't get it to fit, since removed)
>mechanix gloves
>notepad (been swapped out for a smaller one)
>pen, sharpie, 2 pencils rubber banded
>2 bic lighters rubber banded
>survival tin
>zip ties
>Fenix e40
>guppies multitool
>2 pairs of socks
>spare batteries
>cold Steel shanghai shadow (swapped out for crkt hissastu)
>light gun cleaning kit I put together
>2 sets of disposable ear pro
>compass, whistle, thermometer, magnifying glass combo
>duct tape
>bandana
>36ish ft of paracord
>smoke signal grenade
>shit paper&trash bags (for tactical shits)
>dragon ball cap(for that operator look)
Not shown:
>Headlamp
>n95 respirator
>gi mess kit & crkt eatntool
>large GI style folding compass
Things I still need
>Chemlights/flares
>IFAK (will rummage through my medical bin and drawer, see what I can grab)
>monocular
>camelbak/water bladder
>mres/food
>maps
>poncho/shelter (looking for this stuff right now)
>more AR mags (still got mag pouches to fill)
I suspect I'll have to ditch shit/reorganize to make room for water and food, but I still have plenty of space for everything else.
>>30635964
Heres me wearing it but you guys see sadf shit all the time
Sorry for the bad pics
>>30635964
Drop the elbow pads
a lot of that shit should be in your pack, not your rig
>>30635980
Fucking shitass cocks damn phone camera
>>30635985
I'm wearing them, senpai
Pack isn't really workable with the rig
>>30635964
>elbow pads
>>30635858
>DO I HAVE TO SAY
ftfy. i know you spent a lot on ceramic, but some people want multi hit capability. inb4 you assume your needs are identical to everyone else's
>>30635849
ar500 has steel plates for bretty cheap. you just missed the 4th of july sale but you can get a flat lv3 ASC plate for 65 or a curved for 85. worth it for the curved one at least in front IMO
>>30635985
>>30636032
W-what's wrong with elbow pads
>>30636040
Don't recommend ar500 to newfags bro. That's not cool. You know it's useless against rifles right?
>>30636040
>multi hit
Anything over 3000 fps is going right through it
>>30636048
Go use them for a day and you'll see
>>30636063
0/10
>>30636065
>anything over 3k fps goes through it
>gotta prepare against fudds armed with Remchesterby .300 wildcat supermagnums
stay mad that a $70 piece of metal stops more of the same common rifle rounds your superscience ceramic can at a fraction of the cost
>>30635849
You want just level 3?
Heads up M193 punches right through level 3.
>>30635964
Might want to consider the mini flares you'll find at camping sections as they'll store easier. Should be tan in color.
Tried out the Geiselle super 42 buffer spring in my 10.5 carbine and it works super well. No spring noise and I feel like it cycles a little smoother.
>>30636063
That isn't true. level 3+ AR500 has a perfectly reasonable rating. Shame that they can't figure out a way to consistently contain the spall and fragmentation.
>>30634042
dont buy that one on ebay buy mine
>>30634341
lmao better be a troll pic. no amount of gear will save your fat-ass.
>>30633018
Looking for some suggestions on a starting rig. Typical ar and polymer pistol. Would like plates. I don't think I'd travel much with it (limited by family) and I'm a fairly fit guy (not military though) so weight shouldn't be a limiting factor. Ceramics seem nice though. I make decent money so mid grade would be appropriate. Suggestions?
>>30636211
how big are you?
>>30636236
215 6-3". Not the best shape but 14min 2 mile and 10 rep 225 bench press. Barrel chested I guess.
>>30636280
large sapi plates, they're gunna run you a bit more because of the size, but 10x12 might not fight right
>>30636306
best carrier for them?
my stuff so far, still gotta get everything else.
And a belt.
>>30635102
I wish I could keep playing too. Chaos SM were fun as hell. Same with Tau. Honestly nowadays I rather spend my money on guns, gun related accessories, and gear.
>>30635201
Dan Abnett really is the best, especially when it comes to wh40k novels. I got started on Gaunt's Ghosts, and his writing reminds me somewhat of Hammer's Slammers.
Why can't any of the steel plate companies develop and anti-spall coating that actually works? or a Kevlar bag that contains the spall effectively over multiple shots?
The level 3+ steel plates honestly wouldn't be that bad if the anti-spall tech were there, and if they made the plates like $75 a pop.
The markup is ridiculous.
>>30636480
That's the russian way actually, to put steel in kevlar bags. Works pretty good but ceramic is still better.
>>30636370
what PC?
>>30636365
aws ospc, beez, bfg imac, crye jpc, ferro fcpc, first spear strandhog, lbt 6092, mayflower apc, pig pc, tyr bpc, a few more.
Just check the sizing
>>30636653
Mayflower APC
>>30636365
Its like guns, past airsoft brands and into $150+, it really comes down personal fit, configuration/layout, and any extra features.
Some people like slick front and back, some like minimalist, others like all the bells and whistle, etc etc etc
>>30636622
From a logistical standpoint I'm steel seems like the cheaper option.
You can keep reusing the plates, and just replace the kevlar bags.
>>30636720
Speaking of sizing, what size plate should I be shopping for?
I got a Large size OWS carrier, and 6 feet, 200lbs, wide chest.
Thanks.
>>30636779
The larger sizes are generally for length, not so much width. Sapi medium or regular 10x12 might work. Make some card board cut outs and see what works
Does anybody know where I can find arm and leg bug nets? I wanna go Inna woods in the humid fucking summer with pt shorts and a T shirt.
>>30636890
dutchware has pretty cheap netting but you'll have to DIY it.
ofc this won't protect you if the net is touching your skin
http://www.dutchwaregear.com/noseeum.html
use DEET
>>30636779
Size large is literally for a Large size sapi plate, which is around 10 1/4 x 13 1/4. I hope this helps.
Got my PC finally.
>>30633018
This is the only belt I have, what holsters work for ALICE belts? I'm thinking of either getting a 92S or a P226
>>30637635
Looks good man.
>>30637635
Tactical assault gear? Do you like it?
>>30637865
Yeah man, it's the vanguard. Haven't had a chance to fuck with it too much but I'm really excited for it.
>>30633836
Is AT armor any good?
>>30633836
>>30633836
And why is the level 4 cheaper than the level 3?
wtf is wrong with kids thse days
>>30636422
>Hammers Slammers
Yes, I agree. GG is also what got me into WH40K.
I live in West Tennessee. What would e the best color PC for me to get? I'm thinking coyote or multicam, but I'm not sure how much multicam would make a difference.
>>30637635
Diggin' the patches, 10/10
>>30635188
all that great camo and then that helmet...
>>30635389
wow thats good. it took me a second to find you. How'd you make that moss tarp? pc?
>>30638028
Just shows how good MC tropic is.
R8/H8
literally just bought my first plate carrier a couple hours ago. where is a good place to get patches?
>>30638252
Depends on what you want, lurk the patch thread to see if anything catches your attention.
>>30638189
Sexy/10. But how accessible is your ifak?
>>30638356
Accessible enough. My IFAK is for others to use on me, not the other way around.
>>30637987
Post some pics of your area. Buy coyote gives you more choices as far as what to wear with it.
>>30638387
That's cool, but sometimes others can't immediately get to you and self aid can be the difference between life and death.
I would recommend either having an insert so you can take out your first aid and have access to gauze/acewrap, or even having these items in a Ziploc bag and keep it in that pouch.
I do see that tourniquet on your shoulder, so that's good.
Just my 2 cents for your r8h8. I was a combat medic for 7 years and the big thing we shoved down peoples throats in CLS/training was self aid.
>>30638467
It's all contained within the pouch. All I have to do is unzip and pull out. But I appreciate the advice. Follow me 68whiskey
I want to upgrade from my FLC to an honest to god plate carrier. But you guys say Condor is terrible. What is a good plate carrier that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
>>30638497
What's your price range?
>>30638568
Less than a hundred bucks, preferably less than 50. I got my FLC for 14 bucks.
>>30638488
Say no more 11Buddy.
Inf medic for 4 of those years
>>30638623
>PC for less than $50
You're one of those assholes that tries to negotiate prices at the grocery store aren't you?
>>30638888
>I cant get a fancy nylon shirt for less than a hundred bucks
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. This is pure elitism, I can see that plainly now. Im buying a Condor.
>>30638918
well u did say u wanted a good PC. enjoy ur airshit armor i guess
>>30638497
PC aint the costy bit it's the ceramic plates that get you.
Don't get a PC unless you can get some Good lightweight lvl 4 plates.
learn to save your shekels poorfag, and get something worth a damn.
also AWS OCPC is GOAT for the price.
>>30638918
Nothing wrong with condor, just pack a sewing kit and stich the seams one more time and you're g2g.
>>30638668
Unit?
>>30638947
Where can I get said lvl 4 plates?
>>30639023
Highcom
bulletproofme
armorwear
SKD
Velocity systems
seems to be the places
>>30639048
SKD requires a background check document that is notarized and Velocity only sells their plates to LE/Mil
Highcom
Armorwear
Bulletproofme
Chase tactical
All just requires you to tick a box saying you are a us resident.
>>30636370
What bear patch is that?
>>30638488
if you really want to be real high speed you should wear bandages in places you think you might get shot
>>30639166
Israeli bandage my whole body just in case...brilliant.
>>30638918
How is it elitism to be intelligent enough to be able to save money?
>>30637940
>>30637940
>>30637940
>>30637940
YES YES way better than AR 500.
Beyond worth the deal
Wont find anything cheaper
>>30638139
For the region. I'm in michigan and the color is just a little off for these parts.
>>30639008
A Co, 1-64AR, 3ID. I still feel the vibration of the bradley's on my balls
You?
>>30638467
Thanks for the tip, I'm lookin up an insert to order as speak, is there anything you look for in particular?
Can you guys recommend some babby's first gear? I'm looking for basic (don't need fancy OPERATOR) high quality stuff.
>>30638918
lmao poorfag
your armor is going to fall apart on you because you're shilling on your own life
also get a lbt 6094
>>30639099
which one has the best deal?
>>30639939
All condor all everything
reebok pumps for the shoes
dont forget protection! trojan extra rugged, studded cuz you know you're a stud
>>30639937
Honestly the one I use is the old IFAK insert. It's not ideal, but it's affordable and can have the basics you need.
Besides the Chicom surplus and the Eagle rig, any decent chest rigs out there for AK mags? Apart from those two all I've been able to find are airshit rigs.
Or am I better off just getting a vest and MOLLE pouches separately?
>>30636040
AR500 Armor is also the company with a standing recall out for two months production of plates that won't even meet NIJ III requirements. Fuck them.
>>30637940
AT Armor is good people, willing to educate dudes on armor instead of bullshitting like a lot of product reps. They stock a lot of Velocity Systems stuff and I think their OEM for their house brand plates is also Velsyst. Wouldn't recommend them if I didn't think they were good.
>>30637960
Because the level III is lighter and more expensive to produce due to some production factors and multicurve shape.
>>30639099
I believe SKD will sell if you have a valid CCW permit, which you should probably already have if you're worried about gearfagging.
>>30639959
Okay, fuck Condor. But as a LBT 6094 owner it's definitely not worth $100 more than a Mayflower APC or something.
>>30639643
You arent saving money if you are spending hundreds of dollars on a nylon shirt.
![WP_20160716_01_46_44_Pro[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d5OnsTd.jpg "WP_20160716_01_46_44_Pro[1].jpg")
>Holster received
Not i just need to get the drop paddle and I'll be happy, it sits a bit high for my liking as is.
Also fuck using steel for armor. Where do you think these fly-by-night armor companies source their steel from? They're buying steel from suppliers who may or may not even give a fuck, and then they waterjet it and maybe batch test it to see if it stops rounds. That's how companies like AR500 Armor end up with literally 2 months of plates coming from bad steel that doesn't even stop regular ass M80 ball. The other companies out there aren't doing anything super different, they just haven't been fucked by bad suppliers yet. Emphasis on the word yet.
>>30640213
but level 4 is better than 3?
>>30640367
In terms of pure protective ability, that's a fairly safe bet. The thing is that a well designed level III ceramic plate can provide good protection against common threats while also being light as hell. A 3-4 lb weight reduction per plate adds up to be fairly substantial. The caveat is that level III UHMWPE plates won't stop M855, and that level III steel has the obvious drawbacks of spall, weight, and difficulty stopping certain high velocity rounds.
Anyone know how sizing works on a AWS OCPC? I'm thinking of getting one as my first PC. I admittedly don't know jack about PCs though.
Going to actually shelf the belt setup for a while and try the hsgi leg rig. Not that there is anything wrong with my belt I'm just moving to green based gear over Coyote.
>>30640432
They are sized off the plate size, which is the case for most PCs. So medium will hold medium SAPIs, large holds large SAPIs, etc. So size the plate first, then choose the size of carrier. The plate should be wide enough to cover both nipples completely when worn.
>>30640449
Is that a Perroz carrier? Or Velsyst?
>>30640465
Mayflower LPAC with m4 placard
>>30640465
Cool. Thanks. I've found a used Shellback banshee for ~$125 shipped. Dies that seem like a good deal?
>>30640431
What do you think about http://store.atarmor.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-FFS4
for a lbt 6094?
>>30640635
bulletproof me has a better deal
>>30640718
I think AT has better quality, they cater to LEO
>>30640124
I rate you ballin/poor
respect nigga, respect
/GQT/ please tell me where the hell I can get some fucking multi-cam tropic pouches that aren't airshit knock offs. Please.
>>30640265
That's funny, because I thought we were talking about plate carriers and not shirts.
>>30640432
I've emailed AWS in the past and I was told size small will fit small and medium (nice tight fit) military SAPI plates. 10 x12 plates will not fit as they are a bit too wide, but they will instead fit in a size medium OCPC.
>>30640431
>difficulty stopping certain high velocity rounds.
pretty much if you get hit by someone shooting regular m193 out of a 18"+ barrel, you're fucked.
>>30639959
>poorfag
>get LBT 6094
>450 dollars
>>30637635
I was down to TAG Vanguard, Mayflower apc, and the WAS DCS.
Went for the Mayflower.
How's the Vanguard? comfy?
>>30634991
get mad bro. mad clips all up in this ak40000
>>30638497
>plate carrier + plates
>ACTUAL defensive equipment whose sole purpose is to save your life.
>"how I pay $50 for something that my life would literally depend on?"
I get guns, not everyone has to pay for an anchor in order to have a functional and reliable gun.
But for a solid PC, you're paying for something that won't fall apart from a little bit of rough handling and usage.
>>30633795
for reloads try fetching the fresh mag first, then hitting the release with your thumb and swiping out the old mag while inserting the fresh one with the right hand. you dont get retention but for a fast emergency reload, i have found it works well .
Hey /k/. I'm tossing up between this
http://www.first-spear.com/product.php?productid=17876
and this
http://www.sordaustralia.com/product.php?productid=29&cat=16&page=1
Or the sord CTR sniper rig
I have previously used belt rig only, but I bought an internal frame, hip belt pack. I need something that will clear the hip belt. I've modified the belt rig so you can pull it up like the joker, but of course most of the carrying capacity is at the back so it just doesn't work.
I'm looking at carrying 8 columns worth of ammunition/other and then about 8 of other shit.
Any advice?
>>30641301
I got it on sale actually.
Savvvy poorfag
>>30641301
Sorry, senpai, if you were on these threads 1 month ago, there was like 120-ish LBT 6094 US Marshall version overruns that were going for $199 on ebay.
Amazing deal since $200 is where most lower-mid end PC's are situated at, and LBT is like Colt, they got the reputation and service to back up their product, but maybe behind the curve on features and new shit when it comes to their main line of product, and they're usually $$$.
>>30633689
What bag is that?
>>30640511
Oh lol. Should have known but at least I was in the ballpark with velsyst
>>30640549
Not bad
>>30640718
If you're talking about the plates I think you're talking about those are single-curve. So it's an apples to oranges comparison.
>>30642509
I think I am falling in love with Velocity's Scarab.
Maybe next time.
>>30636370
>fellow commiefornian
you better hide that dangerous assault baby killer. with it's easily detatchable clipzine.
>>30640449
i fucking love this gear. the colors and wear are so aesthetic
what pants?
>>30638918
AWS OCPC
- Stitch for stitch the same as a LBT 6094
- Uses heavier more durable 1000 denier nylon for the outer construction instead of 500 denier that LBT uses
- 150 bones for the OCPC vs 450 for a LBT 6094
- Made here in Muricuh
- Same day shipping
>>30638390
Only pics I have are of the farm right now, and my phone is refusing to let me take pictures. I've found a shellback banshee in multicam for a decent price. Would that be suitable for the colors out here?
I found this molle pistol holster on amazon. Is it good or is it airsoft tier? The ratings are good for what its worth.
Why cant I find genuine milsurp molle holsters? Am I searching wrong? I know the military uses pistols, and presumably keeps them in a holster. Why cant I find them online?
>>30643368
Don't buy nylon holsters. They're pretty much all shit compared to a real holster. It's like carrying a gun in a floppy sack. Most everyone in the military is issued some kind of rigid holster, and if they get issued the good stuff that means a Safariland.
>>30642894
Crye field pants, I've had them a few years now and use them for longer hiking trips and hunting / shooting. They have internal knee pads that are pretty good too.
>>30643368
Im pretty sure the military uses these holsters, which still have ALICE clips on them for use on the pistol belt. ALICE is still kind of MOLLE compatible though
>>30643475
Flap holsters a shit. Welcome to unreasonably long draw times.
>>30633018
What chest rig do you guys recommend for M1a mags?
>>30643475
>>30643493
there is nothing wrong with widow makers. They aren't high speed but they work for a wide variety of pistols and hold them securely. if you just want to carry a pistol on a alice rig or something then they work fine.
>>30643554
chicom 63, that one rhodie copy that koko has, haley dc3r heavy, alice gear.
>>30643554
How many mags do you want to carry?
>>30643575
If you need a pistol for a backup weapon and you actually have to use it, odds are it's because you don't have time to reload a rifle, or because your rifle is really fucked from a serious malfunction. Just because it's fine for carrying the pistol around doesn't mean it's actually beneficial if you have to use the pistol. The M12 isn't even that cheap, you can buy an ALS from Safariland for like $10 or $20 more.
>>30635776
Thanks for the pic friendo.
I don't get why atacs even exists when you could put rit dye in a spray bottle and bukkake regular tan clothes for less than half the cost
>>30638189
>tourniquet
>rubber band
>on shooting shoulder (both shoulders are shooting shoulders)
Ifak is a little out of the way for my taste
water hose too fucking long
tank hydration pouch
what's in that buckled pouch on the cumberbund?
>>30643664
Is a TQ on a shoulder strap really going to get in the way of your buttstock? How the fuck are you shouldering your rifle?
>>30642921
>odd number of columns
>site also sells assault ladders
I just cant
>>30643793
Where are you seeing an odd number of molle columns? I'm seeing 6 on the front.
>>30643828
I'm pretty sure AWS does use an odd number of collums for molle on their medium carrier (7). You can buy a size small and use Medium SAPIs to get around it (fit should be much better too).
>>30644037
Size small has 6 even molle channels (closest to a LBT 6094a)
>>30644037
I looked it up and you're right.
>>30643664
I'm a lefty, so it's not on my firing shoulder. It's held with rubberbands so it can be removed quickly. Here is the contents of said pouch. There is also a trijicon lens pen in there.
>>30639936
1-502, 101ABN. Being in a Brad is better than walking.
>>30641546
It is mediocre and not worth the money unfortunately. I bought it for $90 and it has been just ever so slightly disappointing.
Yukon Tactical Stokeridge if you're still interested.
I've had two plastic clip things break and two sections of stitching come undone. It isn't tall enough to fit a 16"+Muzzle device AR upper in, and the main compartment is too large relative to the other compartments. You get the duffle bag effect.
I'm still looking for a large pack capable of doing 7 days.
Also still looking for a large pack that can do 3 days.
>>30641367
Very comfy so far, haven't worn it too much though so I don't want to lead you down the wrong path. But I'm sure happy with it.
>>30633702
That Memo book tho... NSN 7530-00-222-0078
>>30644114
Oh believe me, I know. I did a few air assault missions in Iraq, made me have to figure out what was needed and what wasn't real quick.
>>30641403
I always reach for the fresh mag before ejecting the old one. It's a conservation of movement thing. I'm not saying it's not quick, just slightly less quick than a well practiced right hand speed reload.
>>30645629
A notebook and decent pen are often overlooked, but highly important pieces of gear.
>>30643475
I used this to get qualed on the M9, its really not that bad. That being said, I've never seen someone use this for actually carrying daily/being secfo.
Soooo what's a good pen to carry? I've always thought the rite in the rain pens where overpriced garbage
I just dropped 650 dollars this week on gear, and I feel fine.
>>30647053
Rite in the rain is actually Bretty gud if you are writing on semi wet or even fully wet paper.
>>30647081
I have about 600 in my gear fund but have no idea what to buy. What have you bought?
>>30647201
Mostly SPOSN and a carrier from SKD tac
>>30633018
Shits getting real
>>30639099
HighCom does require a scan of a birth certificate or passport to prove citizenship.
Would pic related be able to hold 10rd M1A or AR mags? Grey-shop has them cheap and it looks pretty.
Got an Atom SV LEAF hoody for $126 and a Rho Top zip for $67
Did I fuck up?
just need a holster that'll fit the belt that my 10mm will fit in.
>>30647683
muh stopping powah
>>30647704
>nogunz
>>30647704
don't be jelly, lol.
>>30647737
i own guns i was memeing
>>30647739
i definitely am
Who /directaction/ here?
I said I would post more of my stuff when I posted altyn radio progress a few months ago. Never got around to it.
So I have an m83 and I was wondering how people like to set it up. I'm thinking 6 mags, smoke grenade/molotov, radio maybe? And I have no idea what to put in the small pouch
>>30647760
allah potat dog is love dog is life.
>>30647779
>6 mags
>ifak
>radio
>small knife or flashlight
i dont put anything in the small pocket most of the time. i think im gonna get compass and put it in there.
>>30647760
I was waiting, anon.
>>30647779
6 mags with pulls
Ifak in large
multitool and light in the medium
chapstick, P38 and matches in the tiny
marker in the marker pack
What should a good IFAK include?
>>30647784
Dog Bless
>>30647822
I am so, so sorry.
>>30647830
You are going to cause serious autism by saying this but generally
>Quickclot/Celox gauze (not the powder)
>tourniquet
>gauze pads
>comfort shit (lip balm, aspirin, electrolytes, bandaid)
More important than the kit is the training that goes into it and working as part of a team that can provide buddy aid
>>30647859
I myself have pretty severe autism. Please, be polite.
>>30633795
whats the tape on the foregrip for? grip?
>>30647677
no
here's your (you)
>>30647907
Looks like it's holding his pressure pad on.
>>30635067
Tiger stripe
>>30647830
>6 inch Israeli bandage
>nitrite gloves (several pairs)
>1 to 4 tourniquets
>quickclot/celox impregnated gauze (never the powder)
>non-impregnated gauze z fold packages
>shears
if you know what you are doing you add shit to it
>chest seals
>tape
>airways
>ect
and ifak doesn't have ">comfort shit (lip balm, aspirin, electrolytes, bandaid)"
that shit goes in a gp pouch. thats a booboo kit.
>>30647900
it's holding his flash light's pressure pad to the gun. he also has his cleaning rod attached tot he gun with rubber bands sometimes.
>>30647859
>comfort shit in an ifak
No. Trauma items only. Otherwise you're right.
>>30647830
>pressure/Israeli bandage
>Gauze (take what you think you need and double it)
>quick clot
>Tourniquet
>chest seal (half an MRE wrapper duct taped down works in a pinch)
>duct tape/100mph tape
>sharpie
If you have more advanced training
>Naso tube and lube
>chest decompression needle
>>30647859
>comfort shit in an ifak
No. Trauma items only. Otherwise you're right.
>>30647830
>pressure/Israeli bandage
>Gauze (take what you think you need and double it)
>quick clot
>Tourniquet
>chest seal (half an MRE wrapper duct taped down works in a pinch)
>duct tape/100mph tape
>sharpie
If you have more advanced training
>Naso tube and lube
>chest decompression needle
>>30647950
Also missing NCD.
