questions that don't deserve their own post
Q: is epipen the same kind of adrinalin that is used in first aid? what can it be used for besides allergic reactions? heart attack? give someone the ability to fight through a broken leg in a life or death situation? tactical medics, thoughts.
>tactical medics
I've tactically applied a bandaid once.
>>30596511
Were they gi joe bandaids?
>>30596493
What would /k/ choose ?
>>30596550
not the person youre replying to, but i was at the range and i got hurted by my ak. i was bleeding out for 2 more hours at the range and the ride home and then i put a bandaid brand bandaid on the cut that already clotted and everything.
>>30596638
>am an AR
I'll take the girl.
>>30596493
I work for a highway department and found a dozen epipens in a household cleanout. I just want to stick someone now lol. Maybe I can use one as an arrowhead?
>>30596615
How the hell does that happen? Did they use the wrong end?
>>30596714
looks like it
also those needles are pretty tough since they're made to punch through clothing.
>>30596493
Pretty much nothings going to let you fight through a broken leg.
EPI pens basically just bring your blood pressure up and help for allergic reactions.
I was pretty sure you needed a prescription though.
If you have a busted leg splint that. Fighting through a broken leg should be the least of your worries, you should really be more concerned about fatal bleeds and stabilizing your patients.
Also, what is a good CCW for my wife? I recommended to her a sig P239, or a compact 1911.
>>30596638
the girl i guess, i already have a bachelors degree in economic though.
>>30596714
Yeah, its easy to use the wrong end if you're a window licker.
Sometimes people use it thinking its the button that deploys the needle. Thats why its important to read the instructions first.
>>30596745
I should also add to my comment, when you break a bone your body releases enough adrenalin, it hurts more hours after the incident. Your best bet for breaking your femur is to get hospitalization as soon as possible. You lose a lot of blood from breaking bones.
>>30596493
Its going to deliver epinephrine in a 1:1000 mix intra muscularly. For hear attacks u need to give a 1:10000 mixture straight into their bloodstream.
The thig to remember er with the the epiphany is that if u cut them up there are actually four does esf of epic inside and it only delivers one of them. If you are exceedingly desperate and have controlled someone's bleeding but heir on shock then I suppose you could hit them a couple times with the epitome pen to get some alpha adrenergic effects from it instead of just he beta effects to raise there blood pressure
>>30596745
Holy fucking shit this hurts so much
Stop fucking talking
t. EMT-B in paramedic school
>>30596493
yeah it's adrenaline
>>30596745
>p239
>compact 1911
Porque no los dos?
Get a Sig P938
>>30596777
This. Double broken femur or broken pelvis is literally a death sentence
>>30596723
It's a 21g needle roughly 5/8ths of an inch. The punch comes from the spring, not the needle.
>>30596799
Already have a Makarov, I don't really want a .380
I'm thinking about getting more into collecting old/antique firearms.
Not necessarily milsurps.
What is the best way to verify whether a rifle is safe to shoot modern smokeless powder loads or if a shotgun will not be destroyed by steel pellets?
>>30596778
Depending on protocols, yes, 1:10k IV 1mg of Epi while working a code.
Single dose of an epi-pen is 0.3mg. The max one should ever give is 1.2mg. Also, per site, you should only inject 0.5cc IM Max
OPs idea of running around with stim-paks and adrenals comes from too many sci-fi films and video games.
>>30596801
No, It's a trauma alert situation. If they're splinted, TQ'ed, and the PT is given a fluid challenge, they have pretty goddamn good odds of surviving.
>>30596853
We'll yes it's not if you intervene, but if you don't and no one finds himself or gets him to the hospital, he fucking ded mang. Something like 80% of all femur fx in WWI resulted in death
>>30596830
The 938 is chambered in 9mm.
>>30596896
Oh, nice.
>>30596808
That doesn't change anything he guy you're responding to said
>>30596835
>safe to shoot modern smokeless powder loads
pre 1880 it isn't, don't shoot steel in old shotguns, don't shoot smokeless in anything damascus or welded or if you thing you shouldn't.
that date is a little arbitrary, earlier designs were still being made after that, but you can shoot modern stuff in pre 1898 nuggets, maybe gew88s, a couple others. research first.
>>30596931
Thanks
I've been looking at a lot of "found this in grandpa's attic after he passed" type of sales and it's hard to find any info on those guns other than what I can tell by just looking at it.
>>30596778
Sounds like you know your stuff. is there a book you recommend to learn EMT. learn how to treat major wounds and respond to trama
>>30596973
Honestly? Sign up for an emt course, work private ems, get into paramedic school and watch it swallow all your life and free time for the next 12 months. If you survive, suppressor scribe to JEMS and read their monthly front to back while continuing to work ems of the weekends at midnight minimum
>tfw when over halfway thru medic school where were down to 18 of the 30 starting students and no matter how well you do you feel like you could be next
>tfw you work 80 hours per week between school, clinicals and your actual job
BTW you won't learn he epicenter trick in medice school. There are a shitload of improvisations you learn to do in the field, such as bp cuffs to squeeze iv bags, ked boardo for pelvis fractures (only time you'll probably use them). Even then it's still a lot of improv. I've never used a pre-made splint, I've only ever cut slings from bedsheets. The best way to use a chests ealing is to throw it out and use the wrapper it came in instead. To make matters worse national standard lag behind reality ie capnography or the back boards are good meme. Lastly. These are all tools. The real skill is being able to tell a medical problem from simply looking at someone. I know when someone has a throat problem by their posture, when their heart is bad by looking at their feet. Lung problems by looking at fingertips etc
>>30596493
It is epinephrine.
Only useful for allergic reaction
am i and asshole if i show up to the range with a several guns and i plan to shoot some of them only once or twice.
>>30596973
>>30597146
No for trauma there's a few simple things to teach. First of all you do not save save trauma victims, only trauma surgeons do
But there are a lot of things you can do.
The proper order of thingS is bleeding airway breathing circulation. So if you run up to someone hurt and you see spurting blood, IMMEDIATELY STOP IT. This can be as simple as covering it with your hand. Of course this assumes you have a partner to come to your aid with a dressing or tourniquet ie anything to replace your hand if not do your best.
Don't use belts as tourniqets, use fabric, ie short or bedsheets in a strip about 3 to four inches wide at minimum and twist it tight using a stick or pemcil. If u have a purpose built tourniquet use that.
Thenot stabilize the head with your hands. If there just you theneed don't move the head. If he hasn't responded check if he responds to pain and open his airway to see of he breaths if he hasn't already. Then check a pulse on his neck. For us, we would check bp and stuff like that, but you can't and I doubt you'll have a partner with a backboard. This is he part where you call for EMS and then return to stabilizing the head
Remember, the most important thing you can do do is stop bleeding and stabilize the head while keeping the airway patent. Stop the bleeding stop the bleeding stop the bleeding.
HOWEVER if he has no pulse, he's fucking dead. Some places have you work cpr on trauma arrests but it never works. It's more of a liability thing. If someone trauma arrests end route, or lyrics some very complicated series of events leaf to them being resucitated. But if you yourselves find someone with no pulse in a puddle of blood, they're fucking dead.
>>30597183
Not true
What's the best way to clean up an old nugget stock that's dirty as all hell?
I've heard mineral spirits + 0000 steel wool for a good clean, then rub on linseed oil.
>>30597290
Spoken like a true basic emt
>>30596493
I'm a surgery resident and I have life-threatening food allergies so I carry an EpiPen (in a fanny pack if I'm wearing scrubs... don't fucking laugh at me!)
I've had to stick myself a few times, it wears off after 10-15 minutes, you want EMS there right after you stick yourself or you'll just die anyway if your throat closes up.
Trust me there is nothing scarier than finding out you have a previously unknown food allergy w/ an anaphylactic rxn. I'd rather get shot in the leg than have it happen again.
But uh.. OP it is useless for you or anyone else unless you're allergic to bees when SHTF.
>>30597389
Yeah because someone who has no medical training is going to understand tension pneumo or tamponade dumbass
>>30596638
that is a hard decision
my agoraphobia and anxiety would probably disappear if i had an automatic rifleman escorting me everywhere
Why do Delta operators wear black helmets? The ones that look like bicycle helmets
>>30596638
>masters in economics
The girl. I'm horrible at managing money. Horrible. I could use the help.
Have to get the Wife on board though.
>>30597391
I get biweekly Xolair shots for allergies, I carry epipens because there's a tiny chance I might have a reaction to the shots. I usually carry them in a Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack which serves as my man purse.
>>30596638
Totally the rifleman since am married.
>>30596615
I was trying to figure out what that was for the longest time, it looked like the top of a M92
>questions that don't deserve their own post
>own post
>post
How does one into suppressors? What type of funs can accept suppressors? Do tilting barrel guns like all the 45 handguns have any issue with the extra mass when pivoting? What's the deal with them legally, and how to aquire? Legally, are threaded barrels/muzzel devices considered any different from regular ones?
>>30596663
Hardcore m8.
>>30596638
>my
the rifleman. all day every day.
>>30596615
orange to the thigh, blue to the sky...
jesus fuck...
I want to start getting into gear but I don't know where to start. Sites? Suggestions?
>>30596493
epipen contains epinephrine...hence the name. epinephrine is a vasoconstrictor so it increases your blood pressure.
the kits used to come with a couple of chlo-amine tablets too.
>>30597356
u wot m8?
I found a website awhile ago that was a 'tactical' style medic site. It had a bunch of medical supplies and 'tactical' gear for sale, but it also had a GREAT video how to selection.
The videos had real injuries and people in them (or atleast so realistic that I was grossed right the fuck out).
I saw one about flail chest and it looked very real.
I was wondering if anyone has the name of that site? I lost that bookmark somehow and I've been looking ever since.
>>30596493
OP played too much Left 4 Dead back in the day kek
>>30597429
This was more back in the day when being light weight, stopping rubble from buildings and needing to mount NVGs are the requirments.
Similarly, US tank crewman helmets back in the day were football helmets.
>>30598861
>>30597183
>Epinephrine, also known as adrenalin or adrenaline, is primarily a medication and hormone.
>>30596493
if you've ever had a panic attack, thats exactly how you will feel. Maybe if you are running away for your life but you are out of energy, besides that i can't see a reason anybody would ever use it other than that. (besides allergy i guess) Also i think they are very expensive. If you are seriously considering ever having to use one for tactical situation maybe you should use one first to see how much of a mistake it is.
>>30596778
Wait, what? There's 4 doses inside? I was given pic related last year. After a lifetime of random accidental mild peanut allergy reactions, I finally had one bad enough to send me to the ER, where I was prescribed these (~$260 WITH insurance, close to $600 without, btw)
Are you telling me if after the initial jab, where the needle deploys, my throat is still swelling shut, that I can stab again and more comes out? How does that work?
I don't recall anything about that in the instructions that came with it, though I fully understand it's important to hit a muscle, not a vein, as that can kill you, which makes me wonder about how >>30596615 faired
>>30596493
epipen is only helpful in anaphylaxis and will not help for cardiac arrest
>>30596778
as important as the concentration and route is the dose. an adult epipen is 0.3mg IM while a single dose of epi for cardiac arrest is 1mg IV. I'm sure you know this, just including it for others reading.
>>30601096
much clearer explanation than this bugger comes with, english probably helps
/k/ i am a dumbass who was convicted of a felony so i cannot even hold a gun legally. what should i do to not be a defenseless faggot in these uncertain times? i can fight alright but like should i get a bow or what?
>>30601409
probably legal for you to buy a black powder revolver in your state.
Would you be able to get high off of this stuff without your heart giving out? By high I mean feeling no pain.
>>30596493
It's sort of useful for shock.
And yes, it is, but in a different dosage.
>Ability to fight through a broken leg
Morphine and some balls would be more important, honestly. Maybe ketamine in the right dosage.
>>30600712
and yet it doesn't feel like im blasting up the hill at road america when i get my epi shot
must be some other kind of adrenaline...
>>30601440
not unless it is made before 1898, as i understand it.
>>30601606
probably doesn't work like in the movies, although you've only taken it after a life threatening allergic reaction right? it may have a different effect if you weren't having other physiological issues.
>>30601680
you could post your state and we could clear this up, or you could try to get your felony expunged.
>>30601681
EMT here, got stuck with one. Gives you a headache and heart palpitations. Also makes you never take your eyes off your drug box ever fucking again.
FLYYE plate carriers, are they any good or should I just buy shellback?
They say 1000D, but I'm not sure how good quality it can be seeing as how I see it a lot on airsoft sites.
>>30601719
i live in south carolina but i was convicted in north carolina. from what i have read at expungement, i would still have to get a pardon in order to regain my second amendment right. it has been a while since i looked into it. my felony was 12 years ago.
>>30601504
>ketamine
Until you fuck up and put some poor fucker in a K-hole while he's bleeding out.
>>30597391
Pffft, he wears a fanny pack to save his life guys!
I wear a fanny pack around the farm all the time. Shits handy as fuck
>>30601504
Dissociatives make one unable to focus and blur vision. It's an anesthetic with a stimulating effect, but one would be blind and retarded.
>>30597611
Go to a store that sells suppressors and they walk you through the very very very very long and pain in the ass process of submitting fingertips an i.d. and passport photo.
All guns that have a threaded barrel can accept suppressors
Not a problem at all if i understand what you're saying, the weight of the suppressor won't effect non stationary barrels.
You gotta go to a store that sells them to acquire them and the legal process is long.
Muzzle devices and threaded barrels are not considered nfa items that you need a tax stamp for. You need a $200 tax stamp for each suppressor you own and the batfe has to accept your application and send you the stamp, usually about 6 months later, then you go to the store you purchased the suppressor and they let you take it home.
>>30601770
in south carolina "firearm" does not exclude black powder guns so you can't have one legally. *unless you were convicted of a non-violent felony, then maybe you can have one.
otherwise try to get it expunged, or make friends with a hasguns in case the happening happens
what scope mount is on the SCAR?
>>30601453
I was in shitty county jail with a former marine who went to iraq at the beginning in 03, was at Fallujah the first time, batshit crazy... ANYWAY he told me that they couldn't get weed easily over there so they'd break open epipens, drain the liquid onto foil, let it dry, then smoke it off "chasing the dragon" style. Try at your own risk. He also told me about getting a care package from a buddy with a qtr of mushrooms in a jar of peanut butter. Long story short, started peaking right before a rocket attack. Interesting dude, hopeless tweaker.
>>30602849
That reminds me of those kids who died after they smoked poison ivy.
>>30602545
>SCAR
the fuck are you talking about?
on the AR its a spuhr mount
>>30597410
Now I don't know much about medicine one way or the other, so I can't comment on the veracity of the information in the thread posted by you or others.
However the quality of the english in your posts leaves me doubtful.
>>30602003
Cool thanks anon. Just a few more qqs.
Is it really 6months though? Is this for each suppressor? Are most suppressors able to be used on multiple guns of similar caliber? Would it be a viable idea to just purchase a few suppressors for a few common calibers and throw them between the guns?
>>30603463
No, its not an AR it has the full toprail and no collapsible stock/tube
>>30603706
Yeah or more.
Yes, each suppressor or aow the wait time is around 6 months with a $200 tax stamp plus the cost of the suppressor.
They are interchangeable from gun to gun provided that you've got the same thread on each gun, you can shoot smaller calibers out of larger suppressors, if you have a 9mm, you can use a suppressor meant for a 45, they aren't as effective but still make a difference, i feel i should note that obviously you can't put a 308 through a 5.56 suppressor, they only scale down. It is certainly viable to get 2 or 3 suppressors and use them on a wide range of platforms, a lot of people do because nfa items tend to drain the bank very quickly. If you have deep pockets, buy 10 if you want and file for all at the same time, ~6 months later you'll have 10 cans to have fun with. If not, the waiting is the hardest part but well worth it if you ask me.
>>30599014
https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/training-resources/
>>30603968
inb4 monolithic uppers and A2 stock
Does any one know where I can find a large ALICE pack? I've ordered one on Amazon but they sent me a medium. Where can I find a large pack that is certain to be large?
>>30597250
At least you'll keep the RO busy watching you
extreme allergic reactions
cod isnt real life
>>30596638
>supper badass
So a great cook ontop of everything else?
Fuck yeah.
>>30604374
traders in cherno
>>30597391
What food are you allergic to?
>>30602545
on the ar it's a cantilevered spuhr mount and on the m1a its a set of high or extra high badger ord rings.
>>30596793
having broken my ankle I can confirm that it hurts like the dickens to injure anything below the waist.
the blood flow going down = mad swelling, the weight-bearing is gone, everything sucks when you have a break
>>30604374
http://www.armynavysales.com/products/alice-packs-large-o.d.-green-new-and-used
>>30601858
Any good ones you'd reccomend?
>>30596493
Be an actually medical professional who has drawn up and used Epi in the last 24 hours.
>Read this thread.
>Shake head violently
Why won't it all just end?
>>30596638
An automatic rifleman, we can always surprise sex some villagers if things get hard.
also there is some cool stuff called vetigel http://suneris.co/ stops bleeding from arties in seconds think of it like medigel from mass effect.
>>30597290
You type like a tard.
>>30597410
He never said you had no medical training. That said, my girlfriend knows about tension pneumo from listening to me talk about it.
>>30596493
Taking an epipen dose is very painful. Huge needle with lots of force behind it. Once taken, you get some of the benefits of adrenaline like vasodilation, bronchodilation, pupil dilation, and possibly some restart after cardiac arrest.
Give it a minute and you're not going to be a super-soldier, but a panic-attack victim who is puking his guts out. Unless tachycardia gets you first I guess.
>>30597250
That fucking nugget, man.
>>30597389
Are you trying to say there's anything wrong with this? Because there isn't.
Even if you're a medic and you administer als if you don't get patient to a surgeon he's dead and you just wasted resources.
>>30597250
What the fuck is up with that nugget?
>>30601096
I would assume they lived because the needle just jizzed outside rather than in anything of value.
Who here would by a semi auto AUG style shotgun?
>>30596493
I just got my Second Amendment rights back today, /k/.
Has anyone here shot an X-Bolt Hunter in .308? Would you take it boar hunting?
>>30601409
Before I got my record expunged, I kept a hard maple baseball bat by my bed for home defense, and the longest folding knife I could legally carry for around town. Not much, since I live in Commiefornia, but better than nothing.
Getting my first fun soon for CC, and I'd like to get a revolver, any suggestions?
>>30610215
>magazine
>tube also
>nevergofullretard.jpg
its a cool idea, but that picture triggered my autism
What is the difference between a posp scope with the numerals D and VD beside it?
There's no issue with shooting current production .303 through an Enfield right?
the ammo is probably made for the enfield, seeing as .303 is not a common caliber.
>>30596493
Epinephrine is a bronchi dilator and a vaso constrictor. Helps you breath should your throat begin to swell shut. Other than that benadryl is fine. Also good if you're having trouble sleeping.
As for heart attacks. What kind of heart attack are we talkin here? If it's v-fib you're probably fucked without an aed. A lil field trick that can be done is dunking the patients face in freezing ice cold water or just slapping the ever living piss out of them.
And ontop of that what kind of break? Compound?simple? Moving with that shit has potential to cause internal bleeding which can cause compartment syndrome and then you're seriously fucked without real medical help.
This person that im into is super fucking autistic about tanks, loves the hell out of them, and will talk about them for hours. I on the other hand, know jack shit about tanks. Is there some place I can go to learn about them, or just enough to hold a conversation?
>>30614918
Read Guderian's books.
or watch the countless hours of documentaries on tanks on youtube
>>30597250
I don't see why you would be.
Before I turned 21 I often showed up at my local range with my nugget but maybe only shot a clip or two out of it before turning to my 1911 and feeding it 200 or so rounds before leaving.
I had to do that shit because the the chickenshit range girls who don't know anything about firearms besides what their managers, who they probably slept with it, told them and assumed I had my 1911 illegally at age 19...in TEXAS.
>>30599062
>SAR aircrewman here
When I was still in the Navy, back in the stone age when we still had bases in the PI, Marines would routinely run exercises on Red Beach.
One day, in about 1987, a marine somehow managed to break his fucking leg on a FLAT BEACH WITH NO OBSTACLES ON IT. Somehow, he did infact have a epipine or its equivalent, and injected because in his limited reading ability saw 'ADRENALINE' and assumed he could run on it for while before telling his CO how much of a fuck-up he is.
I'll let you guess how that went.
>>30596493
Friend got a pair of epi-pens back in 2014 or something. They're expired now and I've got them stored away. Kept them cool and out of the light, anyone know if they're still good? The case says to discard if the solution is cloudy or off-color, but I think they look just fine.
>>30602003
That sounds unduly expensive, complicated, and time-consumed for something that's just an accessory.
>>30614984
Well, I dont know why I expected an easy answer, that was dumb. Are there any youtube channels that I should check out? He also spends a lot of time playing the WoT game, is that actually accurate? I enjoy vidya, so that might be a good plan
Still deciding on first handgun.
Between Glock 19 and several other guns.
Any suggestions?
I am leaning towards glock due to reputation and cheap magazines at the cap that my state has. (15rds)
Noticed today p320 has a config with compact 15rd frame and full length slide. Anyone own this config? p320-9-FLS
Is it off balance? I thought regular compact version looked disgusting but this looks okay.
What are pros and cons of Glock 19 vs P320C?
Or should I just buy a metal framed gun. (CZ75) and deal with expensive mags.
I am in NJ so 15rd limit, no CC or OC and this is a range/learning gun only. I have small hands.
>>30597429
If you're thinking of the ones from Blackhawk Down, those are basically skateboard helmets.
https://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14
Biggest factor was that K-Pots suck ass in every category besides stopping shrapnel and handgun rounds.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_Integrated_Communications_Helmet
History explains a bit about the protechs. You still see them occasionally for training purposes.
>>30615327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN6mMNgkbvk
The entire Discovery Battlefield series is superb. WoT is a game, I have no comment beyond that. There is no substitute for first-hand accounts and sources and I strongly suggest reading Guderian to understand how tank doctrine evolved beyond, "lets all drive that way very slowly".
Is there a way to make stainless steel magazines darker or black? I want some less shiny mags.
>>30616672
degrease with break cleaner and spray paint them
>>30615327
>WoT game, is that actually accurate
A lot of their data is. Their forums are actually a decent resource for tank history. The game itself, well, it's a game and one where a lot of things are fudged for the sake of playability, balance and tiering, it's not realistic in any sense though the models are pretty good.
>>30615327
C A R L
What's the best type of sling to have on an AR pistol?
Also does /K/ keep a spank it kit in there b.o.b.
If I join the army and say I can type, will I be given a computer job?
>>30596493
Does /k/ into nerf?
>>30597389
spoken like a true paragod
his info is solid, there's no need to get all uppity about it
Somewhat random question, but why are short barrelled rifles regulated? I can kind of get why they would want to regulate stuff like silencers, but what is the justification behind banning short barrel rifles? Surely short barrels are less 'deadly' because the bullet is travelling slower?
>>30618484
considering this is current year and everyone can type decently well, probly not
>>30606787
kek
>>30619851
Because when the NFA was passed, a certain length of winter/rain/trench coat was the fashion, and the length was regulated to be slightly longer than the barrel length that could fit under a coat.
It was media hype over the mafia of the time.
Use an epi-pen when a tank is coming to move faster and gain a temporary health bonus.
>>30596493
in short, no
>>30619873
I mean what was THEIR justification for it?
>>30615432
first handgun should generally be glock or mp, if not only because they and the mags are cheaper, and they will always retain value should you decide to sell them
some people have a "problem" with the glock grip angle. if you get that as your first pistol, you will have no such problem
>>30601322
>Atropine
Are you having a fucking giggle m8?
>>30619914
There used to be a time when living within missile's reach of Iraq was anything but a giggle. m8.
What handgun would /k/ recommend for home defense for around 400-500$? I plan getting my CCW asap and will buy another firearm for that purpose, unless I find one that would work well for both. I've been doing my own research but would like your opinions/advice as well.
>>30619903
that SBRs were designed for concealment, if i recall correctly.
my makarov slide is locked back after i took it off for celaning, i cant get it back on. how fix?
>>30620234
wow ok nvm, i figured it out
Another medical professional here, just gonna add to what people have already said...
Adrenaline in cardiac arrest is very disputed at the minute, there's a very controversial trial going on here in the UK where people are being trialed without it (Ethics nightmare).
Adrenaline given with a broken leg would be very bad, increased compartment syndrome risk and also in small, constant doses it makes pain worse.
Where to find mosin nagant. Literally none near me, ive checked all gun stores n pawn shops
Differences between Glock 20 and Glock 40? Also any other affordable (<$1000) pistols in 10mm?
>>30601858
I keep my wrenches in a fanny pack. Now I want one for hiking because they're cheaper than the maxpedition pouches.
>>30601096
The one you displayed only has one dose and wtf they are 600 dollars without insurance? That's a ripoff. Here they are 120ish without insurance/benefits
>>30596889
That only counted for compound fractures of the femur with a mortality rate of 87%. Adoption of better splinting techniques and sterilization dropped the mortality rate to 8%.
>>30610215
What game
>>30596493
Once I hit myself with an epi for no reason, and decided to see how fast I could bike
Ended up blacking out and falling off my bike
>>30623543
Looks like a Garrys mod map with weapon addons desu. Either way seems like a source game.
>>30624283
The assets, and rather unique way everything looks in the source engine is a dead giveaway.
I want to get started on archery, and I was recommended the Samick Sage recurve bow.
I noticed that Fleetwood also has a recurve bow that's called the "Sage."
Are these the same bow, or are they two different manufacturers that happened to use the same name for their bows?
Looking at the pictures, I can't really tell the difference, but that's only because all recurve bows look the same to me.
tl;dr version: Are the Samick Sage and the Fleetwood Sage the same bow, or is the name a coincidence?
>>30615043
why risk potentially killing yourself
>>30624323
Usually, its kind of a cozy feel almost after having played so many of them.
>>30603968
>not knowing what a Swan Sleeve is
pls /k/
>>30601727
What matters is the stitching. A lot of higher end companies deliberately choose lower denier fabric like 500D to cut weight.
Is there any possible way that I could implement a boresnake in the process of cleaning a nugget after shooting corrosive ammo?
>>30605976
lmao
Gents, need your help identifying this, a coworker found it near the wash rack for our planes, incidentally where the SWCCs wash their boats. Anyone know what calibre?
>>30624995
Have you tried checking the headstamp on the bottom?
Can somebody spoonfeed me on the facts about 7.62x51 NATO and .308 Winchester?
Some sources say that a cartridge of one should not go into a rifle for the other, while others say that they're similar enough to be shot out of either one. Then there are some that say that a .308 rifle can shoot both, but a 7.62x51 rifle can only shoot 7.62x51.
So, which is it?
There's also a LGS around here that almost exclusively deals with military surplus, and they're advertising their Mausers as .308. That's part of the reason I'm asking; to see if they're right, or if they're grossly misadvertising.
>>30625324
The cartridges are the same. They are the same pressure just measured in different ways. vMilitary brass for machine guns does tend to have a thicker web so is more resistant to strecthing from poor headspace.
The difference is the chamber dimensions. SAAMI spec is tighter headspace then military spec. A rifle that fails SAAMI no-go can still pass the military spec and will also probably pass a field gage.
Doesn't matter what is marked on the barrel, if it passes SAAMI it will fire either with no issues. Even if it doesn't as long as it passes the milspec no-go it should be perfectly fine.
>>30625324
.308 vs 7.62x51 is not like .223 vs 5.56x45
.308 and 7.62x51 are completely interchangeable as far as shooting one in a firearm marked as the other
Army bubbas,
How often do actual combat HALO/HAHO jumps occur? It seems that guys do training jumps all the time, but how often do they occur in real world applications? I know of like 4 that have occured in Iraq or Afghanistan. Is that it? Do guys actually never do real HALO/HAHO jumps?
Some Anon from here finally convinced me to stop being nogunz, and im going to go buy my first rifle tomorrow. Are there any kind of hidden fees that I should know about? Any sort of taxes, or paying for the background check, or anything like that? I live in MN, and the gun is listed for 180$.
>>30626271
Does your state have sales tax? Background check fee?
Also, congrats, what are you buying?
>>30597389
Because you're an expert right?
>>30626347
Yeah our state has sales tax, and I have no idea if there is a background check fee, thats why I was asking.
Thanks! I'm really excited. This is the first time I've actually had the money to buy one. I decided on a Marlin 60 .22. It's supposed to be a good beginner rifle, and its dirt cheap (180$), which was a must.
>>30596663
I somewhat dislike shooting in extremely cold weather, because I don't have good awareness of my hands for some reason, so I often end up getting injurified by my weapons.
Would probably be just fine if I got some gloves, but thems is for pussers, you know what I am saying.
>>30626436
Over 11 million Marlin 60's made, can't go wrong. .22lr is a neat little round and available in pretty much every country in the world, even the shitty ones.
I did some digging and apparently the background check fee varies by gun shop with some waiving it.
>>30626549
Thanks for looking into that. Is there any chance it was a list or something? I'm buying it from Cabelas. What was the general price range for those stores that do charge you?
>>30624995
7.62 x54r?
Maybe 6.5 swede?
>>30596493
I broke my leg and it didn't really hurt much. I walked around a bunch and swam across a river then drank liquor until I went to sleep under a tree. It reduced my mobility, but wouldn't stop me from making aimed shots or making a (hobbling) bounding retreat
it was a minor break, not like the bone was poking through the skin or something like that. bones can't feel pain, it hurt like a shitty bruise but with more tingling and nerve damage. most things that people say hurt a lot don't hurt much. the worst part about a broken bone is being a cripple for a month and having to be extra careful for 6 months
>>30626592
I'm searching Cabela's corporate site high and low, but I'm not seeing mention of a specific fee; sorry anon. I can't expect it would be more than $20 though.
Also, $180 is a good price for the Marlin 60, most on Gunbroker are $210 for new.
>>30619914
>not having anything to counteract nerve agent in your go-bag
>>30619903
they were trying to prohibit all concealable weapons, the original act included handguns but that didn't make it to the final cut.
>>30621507
try gunbroker, don't pay more than $200
>>30621743
price just jumped, big pharma.
>>30626436
if you're buying it from the store's stock there shouldn't be a fee
>>30626592
Something to consider: I've heard that marlins QC went downhill pretty bad after around 2008 or somewhere around then, I would try to grab a earlier one if you are dead set on that model
>>30597183
Paramedic from earlier in the thread
This is bullshit and needs to be understood right now that epi is NOT only for an allergic reaction.
>Asthma
>Cardiac Arrest
>Anaphalaxis
>>30624995
its a blank star crimp at the top confirms it. say the country you found it in or post something next to it for scale
>>30626658
>>30626692
Well, thank you Anons. I have 210$ to spend, so I'll assume that there is one, and I', pretty sure I'll have enough.
>>30626739
Thanks for the heads up. How would I find out what date the model is from?
>>30626760
Great, so what you're telling me is when my Gradpap has another chest tingle I can stab him with my epipen and everything will sort itself just fine?
>>30606771
Literally every time theres a /medical/ thread on /k/ I want to throw my computer out the window.
Only people I trust with drug knowledge is /fit/'s /fraud general/
>>30626771
>>30626606
Found in sicily, nato base. On the flight line curiously enough. Id say its about 2.75 inches long.
>>30607040
> tachycardia gets you first I guess.
Kill yourself. Stop talking about medical shit. Please.
>>30607040
>vasodilation
>Epi
Pick one, loser.>>30613828
I'm on the fence as to weither I should buy a cheap side by side break action shotty or this here Savage 42 Shotgun Combo. Planning on using em for general innawoods purposes so small game and bird hunting seemed like a good reason to get the 42 since it's a .22 LR (and I beleive WMR as well?) and .410 . However I'm not certain that the 42 will be as multi purpose as a reguler 12 gauge coachgun as I can see the coachgun in both home defence, bigger game hunting, and possibly as a truck gun. Anyone have any experience with the Savage 42? Any suggestions as to what to pick?
Is it possible to get a "lucky shot" and kill an aircraft with mortar?
>>30613828
Supraglottic swelling is not as prevalent as much as lower airway swelling in asthma attacks or anaphalaxis, so it isn't "Throat swelling"
>>30626824
No absolutely not. Aircraft are designed from the ground up to be completely resistant to mortar fire while in air.
>>30615043
NDDCC
If that shit is out of date, get fucking rid of it. It's worthless.
>>30626818
a 12 gauge can do anything, while combo guns are widely thought of as useless.
>>30626824
Aircraft fly much higher than mortar rounds, unless you count those shitty hand-launched drones as aircraft.
Is it possible to legally own an RPG in the us?
Or fire one at least?
>>30626843
What about low flying ones? Like helicopter?
>>30620345
> very disputed at the minute
Lets see how that plays out
Coming off of high dose Epi guidelines in city of Miami, I bet you there are hundreds of pts who regained a pulse specifically because of epi admin.
>>30626776
I'm not a marlin guy, but I found this thread which seems to have some good info http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552392
>>30626863
what kind of helicopter? You're not gonna get an attack helicopter. You could get a Little Bird during a gun-run or a transport on final approach.
I asked this in another thread, but was gone before I could see reply
What pistol holster is good for cc'ing an obrez?
>>30626887
just IWB carry it. Chicks will dig your bulge.
>>30626657
>bones can't feel pain
Wrong.
> worst part about a broken bone is...
Stop. Massive hemorrhage can be the direct result of moving an unsplinted fracture. If you think being a bitch is worse than hemorrhagic shock, you're retarded.
>>30626857
yes, but expensive and a huge pain in the ass, you're better off taking a trip to south east asia if you want to shoot one.
>>30626818
neither of those are good home defense firearms so go with what you think will be best for fucking around innawoods
>>30626886
Attack heli armor too thick?
I'm sorry, I know this stupid question, I only ask for curiosity sake
>>30626887
You'd have to have something custom made or modify some sort of rifle saddle holster.
But why?
>>30601096
Medicfag here
No, it will only deploy once, but if you break it apart with pliers the ampoule has like another 2ml inside that you can just push the plunger on.
There's a video of someone opening it up on YouTube
Also, look up "epinephrine auto-injector" its a generic brand that is cheaper than the epipen brand, it's what we carry on the bls trucks. Switched about a year ago
>>30626908
Attack helicopters, like Apaches for instance, don't need to fly low and slow to kill you. They stay thousands of feet up and launch guided missiles from a few kilometers away.
>>30626910
Because Obrez sexy and intimidating to Tyrone
Especially with bayonet
>>30626900
Yeah idk what that guy is talking about. I broke my kneecap (dumb story not even worth telling) and while I could walk on it the pain made me sweat
>>30626784
Chest pain is either an AMI or angina - term used for generalized non-ami related chest pain
Cardiac arrest means the heart is not pumping correctly, for whatever reason, be it physical or electrical or what the fuck ever.
Chest "tingle" would be best resolved with 324mg Aspirin and a Nitroglycerin administration. Talk to your doctor.
>Not Epi for chest pain
>>30626932
And Hind?
>>30596493
Western New Yorker here, looking for a recommendation for a cheap and reliable rifle or shotgun for home defense and hunting. Currently looking at Mossberg 500, any feedback would be great.
>>30626954
That, or Remmington 870
Literally the go-to of shotguns
>>30626942
yeah, Hinds use missiles too.
BUT, some Hinds are used as transports, and like I said you could hit them on final approach. I recall a story from the first Gulf War of some F18 pilot nailing an Iraqi helo with a laser guided bomb as it came in for a landing. Low and slow helis are vulnerable to all sorts of stupid stuff.
Is it legal to open carry a mace or morning star in the state of nevada?
>>30626954
just make a slambang. Parts are like $20 at home depot.
>>30626971
Ah, thanks for anwering, I appreciate it
I shall now put the knowledge to use
>>30626739
Quality went down because they are made by Remington under contract to Marlin, and Remington's quality took a nose dive after they got bought out.
>>30614984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjp_4jY8pY
Late to the party, but the chieftain is really well-read on tanks and armor from world war II. Even worked as the historical source for Girls und Panzer.
You could watch GuP, not for tactics or stats, but to get familiar with tank names and keep your interest up
>>30626938
But you just gave me contradictory medical advice in your last post. The kind of chest tingles my Granpap has in when his heart stops.
So I saw a movie called the beast
It was about a russian tank crew in afghanistan
Did Russian tanks of thay time really have al those weapons? Main cannon and pk machine gun i know are standard, but what about the Dshk and flamethrower?
Also, was it really just the single compartment?
>>30607096
>>30607902
Guys it's the bayonet, chill.
>>30614918
If you are still monitoring, why not ask this person to teach you about tanks instead. The point is to get closer not to actually learn about tanks.
Bought one of these? Should I just oil it or is some grease called for?
How dirt will it get with steel ammo if I use grease?
>>30627061
Well you can do both. Tanks are cool, talking to your friend about something he is really into is cool, so yea why not
>>30597250
That nugger is fucking sexy man
I'm currently noguns and my wallet finally allows me to become hasguns. My question is my main interests lie in old milsurp rifles, but because of the current political atmosphere I feel as if I should buy a black rifle now, because I can probably always buy milsurp later while black rifles might become harder to come by. Should I just buy the rifle I want? Or get a salt weapon before it's too late. Keep in mind my income is low so saving up for another one will take time.
>>30627149
milsurp continually rises in price
current production stays relatively stable
if you really want say a tok at 250 and would be unwilling to pay 350 later go with the surp
if you dont care about the price salt rifle then milsurp later
>>30627149
>>30627149
You could just buy a ar15 lower now. Thats a hundred bucks or less. Maybe get a few magazines also. Also under a hundred. You will most likely be able to pick up the rest later, the people writing these laws aren't all that savvy
>>30627185
>>30627191
Thanks guys these are helpful, and good idea with the ar lower I didn't even think of that
>>30596493
Epipens should only be used for alergic reactions as there concentration is 1:1000. Epinephrine in concentrations on 1:10000 can be used for other stuff but through an IV.
>walking behind someone at the mall just a few hours ago
>hear a snippet of conversation as people pass by
>"-oaded, i know right, luckily hes not strong enough to pull the trigg-"
>>30627386
On shit
>>30615034
>somehow managed to break his fucking leg on a flat beach with no obstacles on it
I'm sorry for laughing so fucking hard.
>>30627449
i couldnt believe it. its something you hear in dumb articles or something. luckily i was behind them because my head jerked right up as soon as the context was most likely about. i mean, that isnt actually the exact words but it was definietly "loaded" and "not strong enough to pull the trigger". its gotta be "kid playing with gun". god i hope not
>>30627505
er, as soon as the most likely context clicked into my head. and by pass by i mean, they turned left and i kept going forward. shoulda followed just for a bit
>>30615043
According to research, epipens are good for many years after being expired. Decades if stored properly. As long as the solution isn't clouded or milky, it's safe to inject, and a lower than optimal epinephrine dose is still a lot better than none at all.
Of course, you can find yourself in a world of shit if you end up applying it to some OTHER person and someone finds out, but if you really need it, that won't be the first thing on your mind.
>>30615043
>>30627910
Also, expired dates are 20% liability insurance and 80% a way to make more money off the product by forcing everyone to buy loads more of your shit earlier than they realistically need to.
can I return a gun while still on the waiting period in California without jumping through a bunch of hoops?
I realized I wanted a different gun more
>>30628128
Depends on your gun store's policy on returns and exchanges, they're probably not going to just let you return it without a restocking fee of some sort, if they let you return it at all.
Any way I can get a .223 sp-1 shoot 5.56 without buying a nodak spud upper?
>>30596615
People typically lose the digit when this happens, the epi constricts the blood vessels and stops blood flow to the digit
>>30626971
>play of the game
Is it theoretically possible to fire HEAT warheads from nerf guns?
>>30596638
Gimme that squaddie. If dubs I get /k/oko as my AR.
>>30628532
Give it a new barrel chambered for 5.56mmNATO
What round's good for a Glock 22 if I mainly want it for home defense and have mostly brick walls?
Not going to use it for target practice or whatever so somewhat more expensive novelty rounds should be in order.
>>30597250
>axe
wat
Jose Marquez was able to disable an attacking nignog's gun with an incredibly lucky shot that went straight down the barrel of the attackers weapon.
How many other incredibly lucky shots have ya'll heard about? Only other one i can think of that comes to mind is the sniper kill in vietnam that perfectly pierced a vietcong scope without destroying it and shooting out the gooks eye.
>>30629240
The biggest problem, I think, is that shaped charges aren't made of foam. You'd need something more powerful and it's probably not gonna be a nerfgun anymore.
Shaped chares also work much better with a larger caliber. No one uses HEAT in autocannons or smaller.
Im writing an article about something and i just wanted to know how many MOA is a brand new chinese AK can get
Sorry my English isn't the best
>>30626606
Its not 6.5 swede
>>30596638
That sounds like a shit girlfriend. I'll take the rifleman and we can bro out together.
>>30596493
If you have a broken leg your body is releasing a shit ton adrenaline already, using an epipen at that point could be very dangerous.
