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Is this gun /k/'s guilty pleasure?
lol no
>>30585981
That thing looks fucking hot in that configuration and I want one, but the reasons behind the need for its creation almost kills it
Just looks like an AR with a mismatched stock and no pistol grip. Looks alright, kinda weird. I wouldn't buy one.
>>30585981
>7lb draw
If you're buying one you probably can't have a 30 round mag or silencer. This picture is a cruel joke for people in commie states.
It's got some weird proprietary bolt.... So no.
>>30585981
I think so.
>>30586026
Iooks like an sbr too, some serious money and work went into making that thing look attractive (and by extension as prohibited as possible to the poor souls behind enemy lines).
>>30585981
I'd say it's more a creative solution to an annoying legal problem in some places, and /k/ always appreciate clever solutions to getting around legalities.
>>30586013
Think of it this way, you're a free man, an American, if you want it, there's usually little reason you shouldn't be able to have it.
Get one just for the fun of it. If you don't like it, you can sell it off, remember, guns maintain their value well.
>>30585981
Needs a Johnson rifle style magazine.
>>30585981
it doesnt look bad
>>30586689
It wouldn't be the same but you could put an X15 drum on it, they're pretty good quality and have a low profile so with a bipod it'd be a neat bench shooter.
>>30586107
Wow, what kinda of furniture is that?
>>30586962
Stock is a Remington 1100 stock I think (they're interchangeable), the handguards is some tube handguard with pieces of FAL handguards attached.
>>30586107
I want to see one of these with a faux full mannlicher and SMLE stocks that cover at least some of the receiver.
Because reasons
>>30587001
Actually from the guy's reddit post it seems like carved the handguard parts himself.
>>30586733
>>30585981
No, /k/s guilty pleasures are .22LR and monster girls.
>>30588348
I don't love 5.7x28mm, but out of that barrel length, and with the overall shape of that package, it must be a very comfy and handy little lightweight gun to just carry with you.
Put rail covers on it and you're done.
>>30586733
I have the most confused boner right now.
>>30585981
i mean it does look comfortable.
pistol grips are OK, but assault weapons bans seem to think they are totally awesome
I can't deny I'd get one with wood furniture if I had the money and time for it.
>>30586623
most of the time on /k/ that is "ignore the law"
>>30586013
>but the reasons behind the need for its creation almost kills it
Think of it as a non-shit mini 14 if you will.
>>30585981
WHY IS THERE A SPACER UNDER THE RED DOT?
sorry, optics with AR-15 risers on guns that don't need them are my trigger
If I couldn't own an AR I would be tempted to get one, but I would probably get a Remington 870 instead and practice reloading a lot.
>>30585981
I want to get one eventually, but it's not exactly a priority, if you know what I mean.
>>30588348
Is that a real picture? Is that possible? I have the weirdest boner right now.
>>30592188
>possible
I doubt it, the SCR and the AR57 both use (different) nonstandard bolt carriers.
>>30592229
Dangit, I thought as much. Such a same, such a fucking shame. Thanks anon
>>30592305
On the other hand, I don't see any reason it couldn't work if you cut an AR57 bolt to the right length and affixed a rat-tail.
>>30588375
Monster girls? Pleasure yes guilty no
>>30585981
I think I prefer that over a regular AR.
Putting a full 30 banana clipazine into it like >>30586733 makes it look like one of the volksturm rifles like pic related.
>>30592029
>my trigger
A trigger is part of gun not your psychology. Now get out.
>>30592477
this is supposed to be a safe space and those optics are too damn high for a proper cheek weld
So should we call it? Is the SCR /k/ approved?
>>30585981
that's sexy as fuck holy fuck
>>30592565
>Is the SCR /k/ approved?
In the sense that it's better than nothing.
If the trigger group was compatible with AR triggers I might get be inclined to get one.
I'd rather have a mini-14.
>>30592026
The Mini-14 isn't bad at all, the AR-15 and SCR just happens to be better.
If all you had was a Mini-14, you wouldn't be poorly equipped.
>>30586076
>proprietary bolt
The bolt is standard, the carrier is proprietary.
>>30585981
Very sexy but not as practical as a standard AR-15
>>30586013
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
>>30592229
>>30592305
Yeah unfortunately it's a shop. I can tell because of some pixels and because I'm the one who did it.
No way to make a SCR 57, at least without modifications :(
>>30593956
All you really need is a custom made bolt-carrier, which shouldn't be impossible
>>30585981
Looks like a mini-14 for red pilled AR fanbois.
As a NYer my only real choices for a 5.56 semi are the SCR, a deformed AR-15 with no threads and a joke stock, a crippled AR-15 with a fixed mag, and a mini 14.
Honestly what's the best option here? If I got the AR it would be pretty easy to swap out to a real stock and pistol grip if the law changed, right? Not like that is going to happen though.
I should just get a SKS and be done with it
>>30594948
The SCR and Mini-14 are the more practical options IMO
>>30594948
Not really I see this awful contraption most commonly.
>>30594975
The spur grip seems like it'd only be good for range shooting. As ugly as the thordsen stock is I'd prefer it if I needed to actually use the gun
>>30594948
This should still be ok, at least it is in Cali
>>30595032
>implying there is anything more than range shooting.
And no, hunting does not count.
>>30593787
>If all you had was a Mini-14, you wouldn't be poorly equipped.
Unless if you needed to shoot someone with it
>>30595385
>le Mini-14 is innaccurate meme
The accuracy issues were remedied like over 10 years ago.
>>30594975
How do you even hold that thing?
Would an M16A1 full-wood triangle handguard and an Ithaca M37 wood stock be compatible? Has anyone tried this?
>>30595429
I put an M16A1 complete upper on it once, so the handguard should work.
However, I don't recommend it because the sight line is so fricking high over the ranch stock.
>>30595457
Any pics? There has to be a way that we could get this to work.
>>30595429
Triangle handguard should work.
You won't want the carryhandle though because you'll have such a tall sight-picture that way.
An Ithaca stock won't fit at all, as it's a solid piece of wood, you want a Remington 1100 wooden stock, which should fit and function with a minimal amount of work
>>30595463
You'll really want a flat-top upper receiver for an SCR due to the low place of the stock.
>>30585981
>By exchanging commonly available barreled upper receiver assemblies, the ARES SCR™ can be easily reconfigured in many different calibers to meet your sporting needs.
I need one in .50 Beowulf.
>>30595406
The webbing between your index finger and your thumb take the weight and you ball up your other fingers and pretend you have a pistol grip.
>>30595463
Basically >>30595490 but with a carry handle. It's functional, but weird to shoot and the aesthetics are just fail. The A1 was designed to work as is. Sorry.
>>30595402
Hell, even the older "innacurate" Minis have the accuracy of an AK. They work just fine for varminting or man killin. They just aren't a target rifle.
>>30585981
I love THAT configuration. If I had the disposable income I'd probably get one, but as I already have an AR the SCR is far, far down on my list (actually, it's not even on it, it'd just be a cool thing to have, and if I was given one I wouldn't be wanting to sell it).
Only complaint from what I have seen is the mag release is too far forward, obviously not reachable with your finger. I think they did this to retain as much parts commonality with the AR platform as possible, but IMO it's a mistake as it's functionally inferior in design with this configuration.
At the very least I would hope (if it hasn't happened already) that there would be some sort of extension or something that would allow you to actuate with your strong hand on the grip.
I do wish there were more "traditional" options out there that accepted AR mags (if not more parts). As is there's what? Mini, SU-16 and the MVP? The first of which doesn't even take AR mags. Oh and you can get 5.56 VEPRs I believe.
Just my $0.02
I heard that ARES is willing to fix the shoddy triggers on their first batch of SCRs for free. Can anyone confirm this?
>>30595573
Well if you ignore the mini-14 target rifle version which can shoot 1" groups at 100 yards.
As for you AK accuracy shitpost the Beryl would like to have a word with you. Similar to the mini-14 target rifle this will shoot 1 moa and both theoretically cost ~$1300 then again Beryl/Archer is not currently being imported.
>>30596220
E-mail them about it?
>>30592029
Because you can't glue an optic onto the barrel you faggot.you could mount it lower if you wanted to rest your eyeball on the comb, I won't stop you
>>30596220
Supposedly theres a Gen 2 that fixes a lot of peoples complaints on the way but I can't find shit about it outside of one review video and a single article.
>>30595490
I don't know how to feel about this one...
>>30586634
>guns maintain their value well
Sadly
>>30596220
Ive read you can contact them for a new trigger
>>30597517
That means if you have invested money in your gun, you're likely to be able to make most of that investment back, sometimes more, if you're lucky.
>>30588348
>>30588483
>>30592188
They both use custom bolt carriers.
But the main problem is that the ar57 is a custom design disguised as an ar. If it was an actual ar design, then it would work fine.
why should I get this and not an off-the-shelf AR15 with a rifle grip
>>30592029
fucking faggot.
& I'm a no funs bong
>>30586733
>>30586107
>>30588348
>>30589872
>>30591611
>>30592565
>>30596220
wtf is the point in this retarded weapon?
do you retards have nothing better to do?
I hope they take your guns as you're all retarded
>>30599094
So you can have an AR-15 in places where they won't let you have one unless it's crippled.
Stay mad libcuck.
>>30593859
Except the flower that blooms the best in adversity is the dandelion.
Chamber it in REAL FUCKIN NATO and it'd be a great AR-10 lego-build alternative with a M14esque feel.
Would buy
>>30585981
So it's basically a mini-14 that takes accessories?
>>30600839
No.
>>30586026
Eh, you can have a suppressed SBR in Maryland but the silencer counts as a flash suppressor so you need a fixed stock.
>>30600954
Looks like though. Can you elaborate how it's not?
>>30585981
i dont know why but i want one. I even live in a free state and have a bunch of ARs already.
>>30600954
>>30600976
The SCR is essentially an AR-15 with a different style lower and stock. You can pretty much take the upper from any AR and slap it on to the SCR and it'll work fine.
The Mini-14 however is it's own thing with no comparability to the AR-15 and even requires its own type of magazines, whereas the SCR can use AR magazines.
>>30600976
Mini-14
>works on a scaled down M14 action; open top, oprod, gas piston, two locking lugs, the whole shebang
>overall is somewhat more expensive and not as modular and practical as an AR-15
>magazines are rocked in, like on an M14 or AK
>made iconic by The A-Team
AR-15/SCR
>operates on the Stoner gas system, gas is funneled into a chamber in the bolt-carrier, where it's allowed to 'expand' which works the action, the gas is then vented out the side through the ejection port (and not out into the receiver, as some would have you believe)
>the bolt carrier hits a buffer in the stock, it reciprocates and throws the bolt carrier back into battery
>overall is more modular and has a better potential for accuracy than the Mini
>has arguably less recoil
>more sealed off against the environment
>magwell is straight, you just push a mag straight up
I'm not saying don't get the Mini, I love it, and it's alright, it has a different feel to it and that matters, but from a purely objective standpoint, the AR-15/SCR is quite a lot better, and many of those reasons are mechanical, their differences matter.
>>30601043
I absolutely hate the Sage EBR stock on the M14/M1A, but on the Mini-14 and the old AC-556k automatic carbines, it actually looks really fucking fly.
Funnily enough as much of an affront to Constitution as the Cali laws are, I never liked the conventional scurry salt rifle aesthetic. I actually rather prefer this in that regard, particularly with wood furniture. Might get one for the hell of it.
Am I correct in the understanding that they're mechanically relatively identical to their salt cousins?
>I'm under researched
>>30601150
Am i wrong to like the two ones in the middle?
>>30601863
Hell nah
>>30592188
Fukkin' Saved.
>>30601820
I like the straight stock look as well, but pistol grips are just more comfortable. So much so.
>>30586013
>reasons behind its creation
Not sure what you mean. is there a story behind this gun?
>>30602249
I'm a thumbhole fan, not that it helps in Cali, but if I get one in AK I might. I prefer the look of conventional wood though
>>30602347
The SCR was designed with ban states in mind, where 'evil' features such as adjustable stocks and pistol grips require the magazine to be pinned to the gun.
Guns like the SCR strip away all these features and replace them with alternatives like the traditional stock in place of the pistol grip and adjustable stock, and still retain the modularity of a traditional AR-15. One of it's biggest selling points is that it's compatible with all, if not most, AR uppers and aftermarket parts.
I want to do an SCR build. Recommend some parts.
If the SCR is on the table...
just get a kelt tec su16 ca model
>>30603045
> handguard/bipod abomination
>Plastic shit
Fucking. Why?
>>30603045
>supersoaker build quality
how about fuck no
>>30602916
side feeding .50 BMG upper for AR-15s. Slap that shit on and make us proud anon.
>>30595159
this appeals to a really weird aesthetic that I don't know how I feel about myself liking...
>>30603325
Always wanted to be a rebel in star wars?
>>30587147
yesssssss fuck me i love that aesthetic
>>30592435
SBR an SCR in .300 Blackout and that's basically it.
>>30603163
>muh aesthetics
they function fine.
>>30603587
>Kel Tec
>function fine
I think I'll pass.
>>30603653
lel
>>30603653
Now that's what I call an "exploded view."
>>30585981
>>30603872
>lowpro gasblock visible
triggered
>>30586733
Anybody know what bipod?
>>30601820
It's an AR-15 through and through, except the buffer-tube is angled downwards to allow for a conventional rifle stock, and it uses a special bolt-carrier to allow for this to function.
Most things are otherwise interchangeable with any other AR-15
>>30603045
Those are for poorfags and they're not really very amazing guns.
I'd sooner use an old 180 series Mini-14 than an SU-16, they're not one of KelTec's finer products.
>>30605274
I have one as a trunk gun. It's not meant as an AR-tier fighting rifle, but after hundreds of rounds it hasn't jammed badly or exploded. My groups go to shit when the bipod's deployed, unfortunately.
It's a good lightweight spare gun when you bring friends to a range and they run out of SKS ammo.
>>30586013
The irony would be if it became the most popular gun in the country thanks to California gun laws.
>>30603728
>>30603728
Get outta here grandpa. Go back to chasing the nurses at the old people's home
>>30603323
Intriguing. Gotta be hard on your shoulder, though.
http://www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/shtf-uppers/product/43-shtf-50-mag-fed-upper-conversion
>>30605508
Well yeah it isn't horrible (in fact it cuts the mustard as a truck gun/beater), but the pricetag clearly reflects it's quality.
I think you'd be a lot better off getting a standard handguard for the thing and then getting a separate bipod, the foldout one is really not that good.
>>30605528
You mean like the actual AR-15?
If it weren't for Cali laying down the first state AWB in 1989, which paved the way for a federal AWB, the popularity of the AR wouldn't have exploded in the first place.
>>30587147
>>30606285
>the popularity of the AR wouldn't have exploded in the first place
I disagree, the actual design is rather great, and Colt's patent expiring lead to copies at lower prices, opening up the market more and allowing people to understand just how good an AR-15 rifle really is.
This was merely a matter of time, the AR-15 was already relatively popular while Colt still had dibs on it.
>>30606285
You are underestimating the popularity of the old line of colts.
Everyone who wasn't a fudd and was collecting military rifles in the 60's through the late 80's got an SP1, FAL clone or HK91.
If anything I blame the wars in Panama, Bosnia, Somalia and then Middle East for accelerating private development of the AR15 platform and increasing its popularity and public image.
The AR platform always had a following among veterans who wanted what they carried during their service too.
Once the flat top upper with a picatinny rail was designed every private arms company started developing accessories in hopes of getting a juicy .gov contract.
>>30606449
I agree.
Newfag here. What is the chunk of metal in pic related and is it something special for the SCR or US it common in an AR-15?
>>30603653
>2007
>nearly 10 years ago
I think modern shit is fine
>>30608072
SCR needs a special bcg because of the lack of a normal buffer tube.
It's kinda like a FAL bolt.
>>30608072
the bolt carrier? that one is SCR specific
>>30608072
It's the SCR's bolt-carrier, it's shorter and has a pivoting tail to work with the angled buffer which goes into the curved grip.
Pic related is how a standard AR-15 bolt carrier looks like, this one is plated with nickel boron to make it easier to clean, and so it looks all nice and shiny.
WHY AM I SO ERECT
>>30603323
Too bad the bolts for those are meant to travel back into the buffer tube when you go to chamber a new round. The SCR most likely uses a different bolt carrier so it doesn't use a buffer tube, like the ARAK system.
>>30608293
Any chance of getting the SCR bolt carrier nickel plated like that?
>>30608607
I don't actually know if any custom outfitter will nickel boron plate items on demand, but you could look around.
Optionally you could ask Ares and various outfitters if they have any plans on making a small test run of NiBo BCGs for the SCR, there'd definitively be somewhat of a market for that.
It's not like the AR-15 is hard to clean, or needs to be cleaned often, but it makes it even easier than it already is.
>>30595531
Seconded
>>30588348
>Fake
Don't do this to me
>>30608661
>Plans of having a blinged out SCR are likely out of reach.
Well, I can always dream.
>>30585981
... How the fuck does an AR-15 upper work without the buffer tube?
>>30610044
It works like how some automatic shotguns or versions of the FN FAL work. The recoil system is angled into the stock and the bolt carrier is different from the standard AR one.
>>30610044
>>30609998
failzero nibx coats stuff for people
>>30610168
>>30610607
Thanks for the explanation.
>>30603653
How the fuck is Kel-Tec still in business?
>>30594948
CNY here, I have an SCR lower on order and a scary evil lower for fun. I only caved in and ordered the scr lower so I can shoot at ranges instead of just in the woods
>>30585981
well fuck, now i need to build one in .300blkout
why did you do this to me?
I feel absolutely no guilt for loving it.
>>30605664
show some respect. Johnny Carson was the fuckin' man.
>>30585981
fuck, that looks cool. I think it would be the perfect way to get FUDDS into silencers and .300 BLK
>>30587147
>>30588348
>>30586733
>30586689
>MY PENIS CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT!!!!
>>30588375
LIKING MONSTER GIRLS IS AS AMERICAN AS JESUS, APPLE PIE, AND MAKING FUN OF CALIFORNIAN GUN LAWS.
>>30593169
>>30593787
>NUTNFANCY PLS. Dont you have a son to duracoat and be disappointed by?
>>30609998
that would be cool as hell to have on one.
>>30613230
its a front for laundering drug money for the CIA.
Is there anything stopping me from putting a side-charging upper on a SCR lower?
Because that's a thing I want to do.
>>30613230
They don't spend very much on tooling, they run their machines full out and sell every gun they make, but the profits go into George Kellgren's mad science lab instead of in expanding.
Still, their motto of "Cheap to make guns, sold cheap" means that they are the number 1 handgun manufacturer in the world.
>>30613681
All side charging uppers require proprietary bolt carriers. So does the SCR. So you're fucked unless you engineer one yourself.
>>30613625
I literally said the Mini-14 was nice, but that the SCR is way better, what more do you want?
>>30613230
By making a bunch of basic cheap guns that work decently, which brings in the bacon, and then having a lineup of cooler and more interesting guns of somewhat higher quality, to bring in a lot of interest in their product line and company.
Regrettably, their more interesting stuff which is actually nice, is less common because they make less of it usually, and thus is priced more due to demand, it used to be pretty hard to find the Sub2000 or KSG, but it's always easy to find their pocket pistols.
>>30613713
the gibz side charger doesnt.
>>30613681
Getting a gunsmith to modify an SCR bolt-carrier to accept a side charging-handle should be relatively simple, depending on which kind you're looking at.
>>30585981
Fuck... I kind of want one...
>>30613940
you dont even need a gunsmith. with some side chargers, you take a regular bcg and drill and tap it for a handle. im not saying thats a great idea as its a weak design, but still, its an option
>>30613936
theres this too
>>30613936
It doesn't?
Tell me more, stranger!
>>30613936
>gibbz side charge
Intradesting.
Well, assuming that the GIBBZ propretary cam pin doesn't interfere with some aspect of the SCR's function, that should work.
Neat.
>>30613992
It's weakhand side charging, like an old Remington Speed Master or a FAL.
Non-reciprocating, appears to bear on the bolt just like a regular AR charging handle, and requires a modified cam pin.
>>30613992
>lrn 2 google
>https://gibbzarms.com/product/g4-side-charging-upper-receiver/
I absolutely love my mini 14 it's compact and feels good. But not taking ar mags is pretty gay. A mini that takes ar mags would be so awesome
>>30585981
Question, what are the advantages of having a conventional stock grip?
Lower profile?
Could never find a detailed pro and con list on the subject
>>30596298
A Mini isn't a $1300 rifle, either. And as I said the new standard model is comparable in accuracy to a similarly priced AR-15.
Speaking of AKs, there's a Norinco AKS at my LGS for about $650. Good deal?
>>30586107
I want one in .300blk for a hog rifle.
>>30614313
They haven't been imported in forever so yes it's a good deal China makes good aks.
>>30600961
Why are flash suppressors regulated? Don't they just direct the flash away from your site profile?
>>30614271
>CON
No pistol grip
No shoulder thing that goes up
>PRO
Legal in Commiefornia
>>30614271
I'm guessing that because your dominant hand is on the stock and thus closer to your body you have a better grip when aiming at longer distances. That's just my guess though.
>>30585981
>>30614894
They were looking for features that seemed to distinguish good rifles from scary rifles. Not necessarily because the features themselves were bad, but as a way to catch all the bad rifles that just happened to have those features.
The people who came up with this approach seem to have honestly never considered the possibility of manufacturers just deleting the features from scary guns.
>>30610168
But the bolt can remain the same, or be swapped out for other ones if needed. You could run anything from a .223 to a .300 Blackout in this thing.
I want to put a 25-45 Sharps upper on this m'self
>>30613681
Boom, side charger. There are probably some that would work, but I'm not completely sure.
>>30613851
that tongue thing my older sister does when she gives my dad blowjobs.
seriously, fuck the Mini-14, and the Mini-30, and may bill ruger spin in his grave, that old cocksucker.
>>30615387
Lower bore axis ?
>SCR in .50 beowulf
I bet I'll be on some sort of California watchlist if I ever pull this off.
>>30617040
Is .50 Beowulf banned in Cali? Because technically speaking, it's in a ten round magazine, innit?
>>30617587
Laser engrave .50 Beowolf on the mag and you're good.
I honestly like the design.
I was wondering what an AR-15 design made from the ground up to be ban state-legal would look like.
>>30595402
says the guy who has never shot a gun
>>30614313
Yes that's a good deal, nigga, go for it, that's WASR prices for a gun which is sort of better than a WASR, also it's a piece of 20th century history at that.
>>30617818
Get raped, the modern Mini-14 is objectively not the same rifle as the old Mini-14
>>30616468
Bill Ruger died fucking ages ago and his company did a 180 on his policies before they put him in the ground, if his shit still bothers you then I guess you just have autism.
>>30617040
Do cali even allow fiddy cals?
You might have to go the .458 route.
How do you feel about this?
>>30618073
Slightly aroused but that 'nade ain't doing anything for me.
>>30617966
Think only the .50 BMG is banned for civilian use, which is why Barrett refuses to do business with California Law Enforcement.
>>30615225
>legal in commiefornia
Not for long
>>30619449
What's the next step, banning self-loading rifles of all kinds? Doubt they can do that.
>>30606285
>What optic is that?
>>30617818
I have a mini 14 and I do 100 yrds target firing with it and it's ok
>>30619809
When's it from?
Like, what's the first three numbers in it's serial?
>>30585981
The more images I see, the more I kind of want one.
At this point I've planned an entire build.
>Standard SCR lower
>Ambidextrous magazine release
>Chrome lined heavy barrel Dissipator upper with low profile gas block
>Gibbz free float handguard
>CZ Scorpion/Bren 805 iron sights
When all is said and done, it should be a well-balanced rifle that doesn't heat up too fast and looks like a fucking FAL/VG1-5 hybrid.
Gon' be sexy.
>>30621062
Make us proud anon. Keep us posted on how it goes.
>>30621274
Oh you guys will see it. I am basically going to try to build it as soon as possible. I think it will really make a nice, reliable firearm when all is said and done.
>>30621326
.223 or .300?
>>30621479
It's hard to find .300 Blackout Dissipator uppers, and I don't have any tools or knowledge to start building at this point.
What I'd LOVE to do in the future is a shorty version of my proposed build above. 9" .300 SBR on an Ares lower.
I don't mind the lack of a traditional pistol grip at ALL, and I think a real short .300 Ares would make a handy-as-fuck little hog/shtf/hiking build.
tl;dr - My Dissipator build will be in .223, and I'll probably make an SBR build in .300 later, because I REALLY like .300.
>>30621651
So what's the appeal of .300 that so many people want to see an SCR that takes it? I've actually never heard about it until now.
>>30622925
Near 7.62x39mm ballistics in a .223 package, it's a .223 necked up to .308 size, taking .308 caliber projectiles, it fits in .223 magazines and uses .223 bolts, all you need is a new barrel.
The fact that it's a necked up .223 means you can easily convert .223 brass to .300 brass, and there's an ocean of different .308 projectiles available.
What's more interesting is that you can load it to subsonic levels and it will still cycle in an automatic, something which you can't do with the 7.62x39mm (or rather, subsonics won't cycle in an AK, at the very least)
Like 7.62x39mm, it performs pretty well out of short barrels as it has a heavy projectile, so it's popular for pistols and SBR builds.
Ruger even made the Mini-14 in .300BLK
>>30621651
>SBR SCR
Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
>>30623989
>not calling it the subber scubber
>>30623989
Put plastic MagPul handguards on it, paint the furniture OD green, and put a .300BLK barrel on there, and you have a really nice little carbine.
Optionally also a side-charger upper.
SCR is an AIDS Cannon
>>30624080
And a 5 inch flash hider
>>30585981
