Where does this uppity entitlement complex come from?
The force in the 1960s and before never had to deal with this bullshit attitude that all millennial gunowning civilians seem to have now.
>>30534972
Why does law enforcement harass people who haven't done anything wrong or illegal? In the 60s a kid could walk down to the local park with his .22 rifle to shoot squirrels, and no one would bat an eyelash.
>>30534990
No they couldn't just ask JFK.
>>30534972
You break down national unity and your surprised people don't fall in line and obey American values?
This is what identify politics gets you, a fractured nation where were all individualist that care not for the community but constantly desperate to prove their independence.
>>30534990
Different social structure then. Americas current social structure is completely fucked.
One could as easily ask you why you're so willing to capitulate to police officers without any regard for your personal rights.
>>30535010
>your surprised people don't fall in line
No one is surprised. You and your gunowner friends shouldn't be surprised when we open fire on you.
>>30534972
>I'm a raging statist: The post
Gun owners don't like authority much anymore.
>>30534972
Most gun owners are cool with cops. Every cop I know started off as just some guy who liked guns.
I live in the commnist state of Maryland and all my cop buddies became cops to have access to full retard guns.
>yfw there are still cops who will give you a ride home rather than a DUI
>yfw Cops openly discuss fighting against the Gubmint in a civil war
>yfw you have no face
>>30535029
>we open fire
Time after time, I see the leftists start violence against "those who plot the violence". Why am I not surprised when here someone is threatening to open fire on gun owners? And whet are they gonna open fire with, carrots?
Fucking hypocrites.
>>30535029
Who is we?
Are we not all Americans? This is exactly the thinking that is wrong with our country. And your doing nothing but perpetuate it, but you clearly lack the self-awareness to see that.
It's not just "millineal gun-owning civilians".
I suspect the ever growing list of federal and state laws that make more and more previously legal actions criminal, despite the dwindling crime rate, have many people unhappy.
>>30535063
Most "mass shooters" are leftists. The occasional right wing shooter is an outlier.
Basically, it breaks down like this, left wingers use guns to kill innocent people while right wingers use guns for sport and self defense.
The "right wing gun but" stereotype by the left is projection.
>>30534972
>Waaaah why do people hate me when my coworkers kill, rape, and maim them with impunity?
Go whinge somewhere else, faggot
>>30534972
Why are they "entitled?"
Because they don't freely give privileged information to those that AREN'T entitled to it by law?
I bet you're one of those faggots that thinks that you should announce that you're carrying when you're not legally required.
Fuck you OP and your stupid fucking thread.
>>30535135
Most mass shooters probably aren't very political like 90% of Americans. Only recent one that comes to mind was that white supremacist that shot up a black church. Only leftist shooter that comes to mind is the DC beltway sniper.
>>30535135
Don't be an idiot most mass shooters aren't "leftist" or "rightist". Only overtly political mass shooter from recent memory was that white supremacist that shot up the black church.
>>30535413
>>30535435
k.
![omar-mateen-myspace-5a038d9c-042c-44a9-8e1d-6c6002b67477[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j2yPDIS.jpg "omar-mateen-myspace-5a038d9c-042c-44a9-8e1d-6c6002b67477[1].jpg")
>>30535413
really makes you think
>>30535465
Doesn't include the black faggot who shot up the reporter on camera either.
>>30535465
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth
This is a millennial thing? you do know this was the lope hole the black panther movement used. They would fallow cops around fully armed to make sure the don't abuse there power.
At least theses idiots just carry there gun into public. I think its dumb as hell, just causing panic and reassuring the anti gunners views. A pistol in a holster on your hip fine. A mall ninja SKS slung of your back and posing in a restaurant with the gun shouldered. You just want attention.
>>30535485
>The claim that Adama Lanza is a registered Democrat has been suggested based not on any evidence that he was registered as one, but on the rather dubious claim that because Connecticut has almost 2 to 1 Democratic registration over Republicans
>tfw neckbeards do better investigative work than a "Tulsa FBI examiner"
>>30535029
we wouldn't be surprised if you opened fire on us, that's the problem.
>>30534972
>civilians
>>30534972
>cop apologist blames millennials
/k/ really is shit now isn't it
And as soon as civilians start eating leo asses alive
They start pissing and moaning.
>>30535465
>democrats
>leftists
lmfao
>>30534972
Because there's a lot of overlap with gun ownership, and retards like those "free inhabitant" chucklefucks.
Also people have massive entitlement complexes, and authority issues today, but that's not specific to gun owners.
>>30534972
No one I know is like that unless the cop is being a dick.
>>30535591
Typical liberal obfuscation
>>30534999
Witnessed!
>>30534972
>Why are officers so uppity to gun owners?
>Where does this uppity entitlement complex come from?
>Citizens in the 1960s and before never had to deal with this bullshit oppressive attitude that all GenX and Millenial officers seem to have now towards gun owners.
Fixed.
>>30535704
Cops are more in favor of gun rights than the average citizen.
>>30534972
Because LE has received substantial increases in discretionary powers and influence over the past 50+ years. Today, they are less like public servants and more like agents of the state, having become instruments of the will of their political benefactors. More laws are constantly being passed, increasing the likelihood and frequency of arrests of people that wouldn't have been considered criminals even five years ago.
Most gun owners are keenly aware of the intentions of certain political groups, and they know that LE will be the ones who carry out their will. Combine this with the sheer latitude that police have to harass you with little to no repercussions for their abuse of authority, and it's easy to understand why gun owners would be cautious, distrusting, and/or resentful of LE. The days of having cheerful morning conversations with your local deputies are over. From a legal standpoint, and judging from how uncertain the political landscape is, it is simply too risky to be chummy with the police if you aren't one of them.
Today, you could be fine. Tomorrow, you could wake up a felon because of the SAFE Act.
>>30535723
Rural and suburban sheriffs departments are.
City cops aren't.
>>30535750
>Because LE has received substantial increases in discretionary powers and influence over the past 50+ years.
No they haven't. More laws being passed does nothing for the average police officer.
They actually have less power, thanks to supreme court decisions like Miranda v. Arizona and Tennessee v. Garner.
50 years ago, cops could question you however and whenever they wanted, and shoot you if you were a fleeing felon and they didn't think they could catch you.
To say cops have more power today is laughably ignorant.
>>30535767
You could say the exact same about the average citizen.
On balance, cops are more pro gun.
>>30535029
Another cop with a insatiable need to murder everyone who is not a cop. Shocking.
>>30535723
For them maybe. Not for mundanes.
>>30535824
The statistics have already been done anon.
By multiple studies.
They are more in favor of civilian gun ownership than the average citizen.
Google it and see for yourself.
>>30535051
>its this way in my shitty podunk town must be everywhere else too
>>30535723
LOL thats a good joke friend.
Most cops are anti-gun, and some are extremely anti-gun after a fellow 'blue on the farce' gets shot and/or killed.
They don't want people with guns, because it makes their job more difficult and more hazardous to their health. Never mind the kevlar they are all required to wear, thats just bullet "resistant" (yet another great disinfo joke)
>>30535848
>Most cops are anti-gun
The statistics say otherwise.
>>30535723
not civilian rights
>>30535844
>he lives in jew york shitty or commiefornia
>>30534972
>Too many ridiculous, abusive & unjust laws all forced on us without our consent
>corruption, abuse and scandal at all levels of govt
>politicians, bureaucrats, public officials almost completely immune from these laws
>LE officers have chosen a career which is basically the lead prong in the enforcement of this corrupt, scandalous system which extorts and abuses the masses of defenseless civilians
gee I dunno Mr. Dinkheller, why the fuck do you think you might become a target?
>>30535869
https://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6186552-Police-Gun-Control-Survey-Are-legally-armed-citizens-the-best-solution-to-gun-violence/
In a 15,000 person survey of verified LEOs
>"More than 91 percent of respondents support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable."
>"More than 91 percent of respondents say it (an assault weapons ban) would either have no effect or a negative effect in reducing violent crime."
>>30535884
Pretty much this.
Most people on /k/ distrust or dislike the government.
Remember - Police are the enforcement arm of the government. Hate Obama? Police are the enforcers of his policy, whether they like him or not.
>>30535856
>>Most cops are anti-gun
>The statistics say otherwise.
>Poll size: mid-sized city on east cost
>City size: 250000
># of cops polled: 350
>Location: Most lax, Republican dominant city on the Eastern side of the US.
There is no such thing as Dis-info, huh?
>>30535210
A man was recently killed for announcing that he was legally carrying. Although he was black, and this might be the reason why officers were more on edge, I would think it should be good advice to all gun owners not to take any chances and just keep the gun concealed. I can't think of a law that requires you to announce that information.
>>30535886
15k is about 2% of US LEO
>>30535856
The only statistics I can find are a non-scientific survey by PoliceOne on a few of its registered members, and that doesn't tell us anything.
>>30535782
>Waaaah the police can't force you to self incriminate as easily and can't just murder people ;_;
Go be an authoritarian boot licker somewhere else.
>>30535913
This.
Don't tell a cop you are armed, there is a chance they will shoot you right then and there while you are shuffling through your paperwork.
I respect authority that respects me.
I don't respect corrupt enforcers that want any reason to strip me of my rights and throw me in prison on bullshit charges.
>>30535886
Then why are they so trigger happy when they interact with anyone?
Oh, because they love to murder. Silly me, how I forget these things.
>>30535051
>became cops to have access to full retard guns.
What about the rest of the population? What are they doing to get that right restored to them? Or are they afraid the wrong types of people will get full auto, and that'd be bad for cops?
>>30535916
Congratulations. you just found the issues with Polls.
>Muh 90% of people agree with Obama on background checks which turns into 90% of people support gun control
>>30535210
>I bet you're one of those faggots that thinks that you should announce that you're carrying when you're not legally required.
This.
>mfw you can tell a cop to fuck off if they ask to see the tax stamp for your SBR or whatever
>requires a court order to be shown to anyone that is not an ATF agent
>>30535928
Only if you reach for your gun after being told not to reach for your gun. Or your black, of course.
>>30535903
>>Location: Most lax, Republican dominant city on the Eastern side of the US.
It was a nation wide survey, anon.
https://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/6188462-PoliceOnes-2013-Gun-Policy-Law-Enforcement-Survey-Results-Executive-Summary/
>>30535917
>I disagree with the statistics, so they must be wrong
>>30535967
>online, self selected survey
It's worthless.
>>30535913
>>30535913
The fact that he informed the officer he was a carrier, and a CCW holder and still got shot should be a fucking automatic Manslaughter 1.
Fuck anyone who believes otherwise.
He did a fucking human kindness by telling the cop he had a fucking gun to begin with.
This is just as bad as the cop that demanded the license of the dude at a gas station then shot him any fucking way.
They shoot you for whatever reason. Why the fuck should anyone want anything to do with a fucking LEO?
>>30535913
>I can't think of a law that requires you to announce that information
There's none here in Florida, either.
According to wikipedia, at least, there are some states that require you to do so.
>>30535876
>grow up in kansas
>unarmed man in my small home town is shot to death by police coming out the grocery store
>reports they killed the wrong guy
>never caught the right one
>paid vacation
>in my hometown, cop gets caught having high schoolers suck his dick at gunpoint in his squad car innaparkinglot
>cop catches me with weed in my teens, offers to sell me coke, later shoots some unarmed old ass weed dealer, early retirement
>boulder colorado couple months ago
>sitting in the woods
>cops rush by with guns out
>shoot some unarmed bum to death 200ft from me
>implying cops are only dicks in cucked states
>>30535976
This.
It's law enforcement that's become all uppity and all civilian. Why are cups such shit excuses for civilians? Uppitty cops need a good butt fucking to remind them who's boss in this country.
>>30535916
2% is statistically very significant
People have called elections on less.
>>30535935
>Then why are they so trigger happy when they interact with anyone?
Cops kill around 1,000 people per year. The vast majority are totally justified.
Niggers kill several times that amount totally unjustified.
If you compared unjustified homicides, it would be thousands of times off.
>>30536001
>shoot some unarmed bum to death 200ft from me
wat
>boulder colorado
That's why, boulder is full of hippies with mental problems.
>>30535974
Would it be worthless if it said the reverse?
Or would all you butt hurt kids be using it to say cops are shit?
>>30536031
Doesnt mean they dont have a right to sit in the woods talking to themselves. Death sentance for being crazy. But cops love to kill old wingnut bums. No one to pay for them to be committed so may as well exterminate em amirite?
>>30536001
Holy fug.
>>30535976
Do you always jump on the media bandwagon and start constructing a narrative before you know the facts, or did this rustle you in some special way?
Did you think Zimmerman was a racist murder?
>>30536016
elections are not the same things as opinion polls
>>30536001
>100% fair and unbiased news coverage, brought to you by anonymous greentext on 4chan!
>>30536036
Brah, take a statistics course and learn what simple random sampling is.
>>30536016
Most departments don't even keep track of those they kill. And that's assuming they get caught murdering in the first place. Remember that black site the Chicago PD maintains that operated for decades before anyone knew about it? I wonder how many people they raped/murdered there.
>>30536058
Did what I said just totally go over your head?
Do you need another example?
Explain the problem you're having.
Always charge cops. Always. No matter what they should go to trial. And upon conviction, the noose. Doesn't matter the crime.
>>30536085
You're the one having a problem actually
>>30536071
I did.
Got an A+
My point is that 2% of a population is a huge sample size.
Most political polls are less than 0.01%
91% is an overwhelming result. I haven't done the math on it, but there's no way that it's within margin of error on a poll that massive.
>>30536099
Nice comeback anon.
I don't know how you managed such a witty and original response.
>>30536122
Thanks
>>30536096
This escalated quickly.
>>30536185
Agents of the State do not have rights, and must be punished swiftly and harshly to prevent abuse of power. The same should go for all other Agents of the State, and those elected to serve.
>>30536197
What's it like having the mentality of a child?
Did me pointing it out make you angry?
Are you going to try arguing with me now?
>>30535948
Got a source? I've never heard this before.
My understanding was the tax stamp was an affirmative defense, however I can't remember where I read that at this point. I think it has something to do with you not having to have the stamp on you.
Many laws exist that undermine our basic human rights. Laws created by corruption and passed with deceit.
They willingly enforce these laws.
They willingly trample people's basic liberties.
They will kill you if you try to defend yourself.
They do this for money.
>>30536218
...?
Think you quoted the wrong post friend.
>>30536243
Wow, you got confused very quickly.
That's funny.
>>30536223
It's a tax document so just like your W-2s, it needs a warrant for a cop to demand to see it. IIRC it actually says on the form somewhere that it's only to be shown to ATF agents. That said, you'll still spend a night in jail because they can over it.
>>30535135
Based Scott Adams summed it up nicely.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146307088451/why-gun-control-cant-be-solved-in-the-usa
>>30535027
Because they'll fucking murder you if you don't.
Whether they are morally or legally justified to do so or not; this is one of those "Personal Responsibility" things. And personally, I don't give a fuck how big a settlement my family may be entitled to, I don't want to die, and I don't have any way to "change the system", so I'm just going to have to live with in a way that doesn't give it a motive to kill me.
>>30536264
>>30536240
That victim complex is real as fuck.
It makes you feel good on some level to be "oppressed" doesn't it?
>>30536245
>cho
>democrat
Hahahaha
>>30536264
>I'm just going to lie down and let him have his way
You deserve whatever you get, then m80. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, as they say
>>30536286
So is the martyr/hero complex
Makes you feel good on some level to be a red-pilled rebel right?
>>30536292
>>30535591
>>30536292
What about the rest?
>>30536286
No, i don't like it at all. That is the way it is though.
Every single "right" we have is severy limited in one way or another. Those limits only get tighter as time goes on.
We do live in tyranny.
Police and military are the foot soldiers of the regime.
>>30536292
>>30535591
Are you paid per post or response?
>>30536001
>screw you and your annecdotal evidence
>here's my annecdote to prove you wrong
>>30536249
...? I responded to Marissa in >>30536197 so you must have been having a conversation with someone else chief.
>>30536376
I've been seeing a lot of responses like those lately. Just a lot of hand waving off of arguments, no real substance.
Personally I'd say by response. Maybe it's one of those shills from that PAC that's trying to whitewash anything about Hilary and democrats in general?
>>30535967
>>I disagree with the statistics
LOL thats a funny way of saying
>I think online poll's are completely valid and carry weight on matters.
>>30536016
>Cops kill around 1,000 people per year. The vast majority are totally justified.
Tell me about the cop that has killed something like 9 people in the course of 12 years in his career..... He is still on the force too you know. Theres another that has 7 kills in his 10 year career. Do these not strike you as strange?
>Be a cop, get to kill ppl at least once every year n a half
>"Good shoot, good shoot."
>blah blah reaching for pocket blah scared for life.
>>30536185
he read his Hasbara handbook and is following its flowchart.
>>30536408
>>30536443
>both sides are accusing the others of being paid shills
Aw yiss
>>30536481
Any proof they're not?
>>30536481
>dat lack of reading comprehension
Some cops are good
>>30536016
>Cops kill around 1,000 people per year.
Actually, we have no idea how many people cops kill each year because most PDs don't even keep track and report those numbers to the federal government.
>>30536639
Some kebabs are good too. Some black people aren't niggers. What's your point?
>>30536639
Name 3.
>>30536108
Obviously your teacher wasn't qualified to teach it then. The sample wasn't random, so it's not necessarily representative. If I go to UC Irvine and sample every student there, I can't then extrapolate their results to all college students, all residents of LA, all Californians, or even all Americans.
Your study focused on cops who responded to the survey on a single website. You cannot prove that the sort who voluntarily visited that website, registered, and then took the survey are representative of all police nationwide. They might very well be, but you can't reasonably assume they are. Selection bias is quite likely to be in play.
>>30534990
>In the 60s a kid could walk down to the local park with his .22 rifle to shoot squirrels
You most certainly could fucking not.
>>30534972
>unloaded rifle on back, walking on sidewalk with one other person, known to local police as a stuttering, timid gun rights youtoober
>loaded rifle across chest, walking in middle of street amongst a pack of several people, unknown to police
GEE I WONDER Y THO
>>30536894
Joe Arpaio, Lon Horiuchi, and Paul Tanaka
https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/05/24/arizona-judge-releases-body-cam-footage-from-daniel-shaver-shooting-death/
gonna leave this here.
>>30535811
Found the black guy
>>30536945
You said good, not tyrannical.
>>30536984
I'm whiter than you are.
>>30534972
fuck off pig.
>>30535967
>>30535051
wow
wish i could say the same
>>30535559
this
>>30534972
An overzealous and misguided sense of self-worth...
>>30537130
They just need to be taken down a rung.
/k/ommandos seem easy to emasculate.
>>30534972
Jokes aside, I have never gotten in trouble with local law enforcement, in fact I am friends with some of them... Hell I'm even friends with my sheriff.
However whenever I start to get closer towards a metropolitan area that's when I start getting weird looks from cops for having gun stickers on my car...
>>30537167
Your own fault for wearing your life story on your sleeve (or your back window in this case)
>>30536393
Anon 1
>you must be from liberal hell
Anon 2
>im from kansas, here are personal experiences aboit dickhead cops
Anon 3 (You)
>wahhh wwwwaaaahhhhhhh waaaaaaaahhhhhhh
>>30536894
The cops in my town are pretty cool
>>30537029
>You said good, not tyrannical.
That's not me
>>30536979
>An Arizona judge finally released body cam footage from the shooting death of Daniel Shaver, which led to murder charges against Mesa police officer Philip “Mitch” Brailsford.
>However, the videos are edited, removing the actual shooting of the unarmed man who died begging for his life.
>Videos are edited
>News is edited
>911 calls are edited and redacted
go figure....unfucking believable. And its because of the outrage that would ensue. The deed was done, it should be publicly displayed for its shame.
>>30534972
>The force in the 1960s and before never had to deal with this bullshit attitude that all millennial gunowning civilians seem to have now.
The fact is that we don't need nearly as many cops as we have. The only thing keeping you all employed are speeding tickets and federal subsidies for the failed war on drugs.
No one respects you any more because we recognize that very little of your time is actually spent serving the people and that you view us as a source of income.
Good job OP, you managed to troll /k/, the one board that's the among the hardest to troll.
Everyone in this thread was rused by a rusemaster that knows plain and damn well his statement is the conceptional opposite of the truth.
>>30535899
Fuck off you degenerate fag. It's people like YOU that are destroying our country. Go put on one of your dresses and go hang yourself.
>>30536979
>>30534972
I can provide some insight into the photo on the right. That was in the unincorporated Sun Valley area next to Reno, NV. Its a really shitty area, and he's also walking down the main street of it.
>>30537180
What are they going to do? Arrest me over stickers? I rarely go near a metropolitan area and if I do I never have a firearm with me...
Yet whenever I am in my bumfuck nowhere small town I can open carry all I want and no one cares, not even the local state police garrison... Hell some of them waved to me as they drove past... And I'm not even white...
The point is, not all cops are the same, a lot of them are good people. Maybe if people would stop antagonizing them so much, took the time to be nice to them, talk to them like their human and get to know them on a personal level y'all wouldn't have shit time with cops...
And frankly, being one of those people who purposely start shit to get attention makes you look like the Republican, gun-toting equivalent of a Democratic, Liberal, millennial cuck...
>>30537334
>going near a metropolitan area without firearms
You're just asking to get robbed now.
>>30537185
trump looks so smug I love it. Can't wait till he wins.
>>30536056
There's a video of it, so you could just watch that.
>>30535580
It has been in a while, but thanks for noticing.
Related question, has the NRA ever made any comments ever on shooting of a CCW holder that was in the right? Fuckers on fakebook are posting that since the NRA has made no comment yet, they're official stance is racism.
>>30539298
The NRA doesn't give a flying fuck about gun rights.
>>30539298
Who told you the NRA represents right to self defense or gun rights in general?
>>30537256
OP is a master baiter
>>30535465
>socially pathetic atheist upper middle class young white men are launching columbine copycat massacres
>socially pathetic atheist upper middle class young white men are largely democrat
>they're doing it because they're democrat
>>30536365
Loughner's shooter was registered as an (inactive) Independent voter at the time of the attack. There's no citations, and I'm pretty sure I've seen that crap on Facebook before so I'm sure there are at least one or two more that undermine the entire argument of the picture because someone was too lazy to fact check.
>>30543774
*Loughner, Gifford's shooter
>>30534990
Bullshit.
Parents grew up in rural Texas. Asked them if this was true? They said the Sheriff would have come down and kicked them in the ass and confiscated their guns for being so god damned foolish to be shooting off a gun in a public park.... not to mention the mother of all whip-ass beatings from Grandpa for being so stupid as to be shooting guns off in a park and secondly for being caught doing this by the Sheriff or deputies.
>>30537249
Actually, Anon, there are plenty of crimes that go unsolved that police could set themselves to work at cracking. Human trafficking is actually a rather large problem in some parts of the country.
But cops would much rather just issue speeding tickets, bust people for smoking a joint, or pretend to be a prostitute to bust johns.
The police are only aiming at the low hanging fruit when we need them to be tackling real crimes and prioritizing real crimes.
>>30536264
So you admit you're a slave
>>30537071
You should try reading that book, I hate when people post this shit like the cover is somehow proof that the stats listed aren't in fact true just by that metric.
>>30534990
FPBP
>>30535465
THAT BAIT THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>30534972
The force in the 1960s didn't deserve it as much.
