What is your plan if SHTF /k/? Operating innawoods or innacity? Loadout? Being a lone wolf or with other people?
>>30477248
>If you say anything other than with other people you are wrong and will die.
>If the bug out bag threads are anything to go by no one on /k/ has ever actually gone camping anywhere but a national park and will die if they go innawoods.
I have a small group of friends, all of which are gun owners and have a small food/water stockpile. I own a small cabin and some land and we will head there. We will all die before we get there because we live in a city. If not we will die when we run out of food because I'm the only one who knows how to farm and by farm I mean I know how to grow a dozen plants at a time without any dying.
I will dig in at my self sustained bug in shelter. I will watch through my cctv cameras at you guys kill eachother
>>30477248
I will become the Apex predator
Imma part of reserves, so plan A is to get a call or regroup with my unit, get geared, and disappear innawoods to deal with the situation.
Plan B, pretty much a FUBAR situation, would be same as A, but without unit, with a friend or two, sharing some of my load.
>>30477248
Bunch of like minded individuals holding onto this.
I live in Wisconsin, I'm always innawoods.
>>30477248
Kill spoopies and steal people's canned goods obviously.
>>30477248
Live near all major east coast cities. Fucked by population density alone.
All for assumed total, non-nuclear end of world
Plan A: Comfy Living
>get some guys together
> 15 max
>go west and find a good desolate place
>setup for the long term
>close enough to population centers to pillage for food/more specialised medical supplies/solar panels
>live the life off of old world shit and wild game
>farm in the summer
>hunker down in the winter
>watch all the movies and patrol for shit coming for us
Plan B: Shit Could Be Worse Addition
>get skeleton crew addition of my A plan team
>one ski resort in my area has a summit lodge
>thing is an all weather concrete bunker
>designed for access only from lifts, no proper roads
>already has some man carved ski trails that I could get a compact car up if I layed some gravel down
>friend has family that is armed to the teeth up that way
>take some of them and guns with us
>start converting the place and building some infrastructure for deep real fucking cold conditions
>has game in area
>place is built like a motherfucker
>has a kitchen and fire places
>one full bathroom
>generator already up there
>near civilisation for supplies and solar
>farm the valley in the summer
>live comfy with harsh winters
Plan C: Even More Ski Resorts
>Pretty much plan B but without friend's family or having such an easily defended location
>would be much closer to people
>slightly less harsh winters
>poor farming
>nearest valley is a mile away for that, put in boxes it could be managed
>place is way bigger and more accessible
>Shit could still be worse
Plan D: Hurr Durr Forge New Oregon Trail
>Assemble crew of about 10
>we walk down lesser used highways west
>staying away from major interstates and population centers
>look for abandoned houses as we go
>raid and move
>raid and move
>cover about 30 miles a day and take it all good slow and easy
>Would be living off of canned goods
>would be involved in more conflict
To Be Continued
report to national guard depot with nasty girl freinds, aquire Stryker and all the ammo/MREs i can, go dig a burm trench and park it innawoods and spend all day browsing 4chan while scanning on the CROWS eating fresh venison and wheat snack bread
>>30480650
>could amass much bigger groups of capable people
>if we reach a point that is perfect for however many people we now have we could start a nice new settlement and be a place of organized refuge for others
Plan E: Bug In
>Use house of choice
>assemble 5 friends
>get all the supplies from normal means and them
>live in house and defend that motherfucker while being comfy
>would be living out of a basement
>would be a fun time
Plan F: Out of Ideas: Become THE NEW RECKONING
>get all the shit
>all the ammo
>raid military instillations
>get ammo
>armored shit
>make heavy body armour suits
>Plates everywhere
>all the ammo
>all the MGs
>all the LMGs
>all the rifles
>get something like a Bradley or light tank
>fill crew compartment with fuel
>use turret as gun platform because I am no tanker
>go innacity
>kill everyone
Last one was a joke, but the rest were my general preference of how I would like to go about things. My plan B and C are most practical for me as I could get together enough people with the knowhow and supplies to start this thing. Plan D is really just modification of Plan A.
>>30479702
>>30480705
Two of you fuckers? Wow.
>>30477288
Farming isn't terribly complicated. You really just need to make sure you put enough down to support the amount of people you have while not over farming the land. About 2/3 of the land used at any time and rotate what you plant.
Also don't rely on wild game so much. During the great depression deer nearly went extinct because all the city folk went out to bag them and quickly over hunted. Will be worse with whole ghettos sending out hunting parties for both game and soft targets.
>>30480748
nope, in the guard but i sure as hell have no plans to hang around doing whatever suicidal shit they'd have me do in a real SHTF scenario. hurr go set up a TCP and do riot control in the direct center of a full scale looting murdering raping SHTF situation in a state where every motherfucker owns an AR15
>>30480791
>Farming isn't terribly complicated.
Said the man, clearly displaying he had zero experience with farming.
>>30480855
That's exactly what you signed up to do you fucking coward. Kill yourself
>>30480870
signed up to save up 50 grand in active duty real quick and pay cash for a new car then leave with enough rent money to be jobless for 5 years, but they got that 8 year obligation thing.
but please, tell me how i, the national guard guy driving the giant green deathtrap and wearing a "SHOOT HERE FOR FREE FOOD, WEAPONS, AMMO, AND GEAR" sign on my chest would fare in a serious SHTF scenario.
i'm ofcourse talking about total collapse of local government and people killing and looting in the streets like wild animals, i'm more than happy to defend the constitution while it remains in effect.
but i'm not dying to keep some shop owner from losing $15,000 of TVs for less than minimum wage, sorry guy
>>30480855
I was talking about your source material on that image not profession.
dont fuck around if it ever comes to that. Dont believe in the movies and video games, you arent 10
I feel like a lot of people itt play way too many video games but are convinced that their plans would not lead them directly to their deaths if the s does actually end up h'ing tf - good luck I guess
Me and my 12 buds are gonna make a Christian Marine Corps and set up a state that torches faggots
>>30477248
innagulf actually. sailboat.
>Over-arching theme song of this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBhh23-paLU
>>30477248
die because I live in Cali and have no survival skills anyways so it can't get much worse
>>30477248
Side with the government faster than you could say "S"
>>30480867
Different anon here. It's not complicated, but it tends to be very labor intensive. That's where you start running into trouble. Calories expended can easily exceed calories gained.
In my best year, I managed to grow about 20% of the food my family consumed. That was using dense pack gardening methods in 8 planters, 3X9 feet each. Each planter took about an hour of work per week, and a cubic foot of water. That's just growing/maintenance expense. Building the planters and making the soil fill took about 10 hours per planter. You can cut a lot off of that if you buy soil instead of making your own.
Once you get initial set up out of the way, returns on labor invested get much better. Figure 2 growing seasons to break even.
Best-Case Scenario
>hook up with Friend 1
>head out of town with family
Depending on where Friend 1 is coming from/going to, I'll still have access to firearms, but it might be more difficult to exfiltrate.
>live in comfy country living with family and friend's family
Less-Than-Best-Case Scenario
>hook up with Friends 2 and 3
>head over to his place with family, further into the city
>have access to way fewer firearms
>be in the middle of the shit
>be living in a structure that is basically wide open to bad guys
Desperation
>stay in apartment block with family
>knock on neighbors' doors, network; make sure to know who has guns, food, shelter they're offering, etc.
>pile furniture on front and back door
>wait it out with a limited amount of dry foods, a week's worth of fresh water for everyone, and no guns
>hope I don't die scavenging in surrounding suburbs
Hahaha, I Don't Even Care Anymore
>be separated from family/friends
>grab woefully inadequate BOB and cheap-ass knuckle knife
>run around and see what I can get
>hope I either reunite with my people or at least don't die slow
>>30477248
I live out in a rural place surrounded by fields and woods.
Imma stayin put. Just hide out in my house.
I'm thinking of getting some sort of crank generator to charge a laptop battery and such, if such a thing exists and is affordable.
So I can just wait out the storm watching ponies in my basement.
>>30481537
If you plan on watching ponies, you're gonna need doggies to cover your ass.
Got fence?
>>30480867
>Live on a farm
>Don't know about farming
Pick one. I've been here 3 years now. Ain't bought a tomato, egg, corn, or Apple in that time.
It does require a shit ton of work and tends to grow faster as the size of the spread goes up. We are planting about 60% of 12 acres most of the time.
>>30481285
You could just put it in the ground.
>>30481537
There are solar panel chargers now that aren't completely shitty. I've considered getting a setup for myself that will run a small electrical tool or recharge my jump box. That motherfucker can jumpstart a cat C15. I tried.
>>30477248
>lone wolf or with other people?
My original plan years ago was to bug out in the AT-Trail...
But now that i have a neice and nephew that i care too much for i need to annex them from their pacifist, vegetarian, noguns sister of mine to ensure at least their temporary survival.
>>30481962
Are they nearby? As in, would it be an operation all it's own to liberate them?
>>30482161
they live on the other end of town, its maybe 15 miles. so 40 minutes by truck, or maybe a half day run, and considering the kids that might be half a week back just having to carry two 6 year olds and frequently stop for staminia and to feed and water them (and bathroom breaks)
So pretty much its a micro operation in itself to annex them from their mothers care by myself (my group wouldnt want to risk it all just to save my neice and nephew.), and an impossibility if she takes them on one of the frequent trips to the other side of the state to her mothers before SHTF...
>>30480942
>Going it mostly alone
>Not defecting with gear and command structure intact
>Not protecting a self sufficient rural town of your choice from the closest thing to a zombie plague possible when the cities empty into the countryside in search of food during the last death throes of the 90% die off.
>>30477248
SKS
INNA WOOODS
HAHZAHHAHAHAHA UHHEUHEUEHUE IM L77T EPIC SNIPER OPR8 GONNA PWN YOUR BASES
MUH BUG OUT BAG IN DA SHOOP DA WHOOP!!
I NEED A RIFLE THAT FIRES AT 1K YARD WITH 300 WIN MAG FOR L77T SHTF SITUATIONS
I did not get to do this joke at the gunshop today :( I will on tuesday LOL
>>30481783
Did that the first 2 seasons. Even with active cats and a dog, I was losing right at 50% to various pests. Gophers, coons, possums, mice, field rats, snails, slugs, assorted bugs, and random acts of nature. Putting in my cubic yard planters allowed me to really get the vermin under control without going all DuPont on them. They also warm up faster in the spring, which added about 10 days to the front end of my growing season.
>>30482436
>>30477248
>not just starting a happy farm where you take in everyone who you meet and grow stuff
>>30477248
Hide away from big cities for the first week or two then come back and start scavenging.
I base this off my assumption that most people that who aren't total psychopaths will be left by then which in turn reduces my chances of dying in the looting/first days of panic.
Basically the agreed plan between my family and one friend in the area is for he and his girl to come to our place (He has two guns in his place, my family has around 30 in ours, and a lot more food stores)
Once said friend is at our place, we'd be getting out of this fucking city as fast as we could. If that were impossible or too dangerous to risk, we're in a good situation to bug in to, despite being in a city.
Main part of the plan is definitely getting out of this fucking city. I can imagine the chaos that would go on here, and it would not be at all pretty.
>>30477411
You're going to become a nigger?
>>30479702
I CANT HANDLE THE WATERMARK.
Here you go.
>>30480650
Have you ever tried walking 30 miles in one day? Also why do you assume that us folk out west won't just murder you pussy easterners and loot your shit as soon as we see you?
>>30480720
Plan F: Because all the military people just bailed and left all the good shit behind, and by god not one of them had a similar idea.
>>30484077
Yes. And it's all hypothetical. Plan B and C are most likely. But starting a proper form of community would be best in my mind. Never said it was at all practical, that is for B and C. I just feel that doing some good or trying for safety in the wilderness would be a sound plan. There was a reason for the hurr durr in front of new Oregon Trail.
>>30484108
Jokes typically involve a level of suspension of disbelief, or are so ludicrous that the infeasiblity of the act makes it funny that way.
>>30484137
Sorry, didn't finish reading. Saw the disclaimer at the end.
>Lost all friends when moved from Cali to LV
>Hate LV and everything in it
>Have bunch of guns
>Wish I could survive with buds
>Will end up just shooting everything in sight until I get shot
>>30477248
Hide in some ditch until I starve and pretend that my waifu is real
>>30483849
He didn't say sexual predator
>>30477248
I live in Abilene, Texas. So it's kinda of big city but there's an air force base near by so if the military has fallen apart I head there stock up on some stuff and check for survivors then head to the old missile silos in the surrounding areas. Try to make contact with my ranger buddy in Tennessee and see if I can get him out to where I am. Then turn the air base into a fortress. See if I can get some aircraft operational
>>30485252
Town and Country drive in doing well? The Murray's made a weird choice taking that spot over, IMO
>>30485343
What do you mean
>>30485578
Where, their main drive-in in Ennis gets business from DFW, but Abilene is like the only biggish town for a good while in any direction
>>30485618
Yeah but my plan is going to have a huge dent in it because the military surplus burned down here. It's also pretty boring around here. All my friends were here for like two weeks before leaving immediately. Even the girl I was going to ask out has been out of town for like a month now
>>30485637
That was kind of the vibe I got there, I almost ended up taking a job there once, but uh.... yeah..
>>30477248
>What is your plan if SHTF /k/?
I'd like to kick your teeth out of your stupid mouth.
What kind of SHTF faggot ass faggot. Is the electricity going to be back on sometime in the next week?
Are we talking about a cat 5 hyper hurricane devastating 200 square miles of civilization where 4 million human beans will need shelter and food and water and shit tickets and lube for as long as it takes to rebuild almost everything?
Are you talking about a complete shit your pants cause some civilization killing, world with out rule of law event where we are all starting over basically from scratch?
If you were just a tiny bit more specific I could have saved you, but no. You had one fucking job OP.
>>30485756
What kind of job
>>30477248
I'd rather get the hell out of the city.
Only retards go lone wolf if there's friends to be had. That said, I have supplements to the BOB that I keep in my truck: a large pack of water bottles and another of ramen, various nut bars, a pot, sleeping bag, etc.
Aside from getting out to poop, I could live in my truck for nearly a week if I rationed things properly.
Of course it's not just SHTF preparation, that's just smart to have in the car in case you stall in the middle of nowhere and have difficulty contacting help.
Not exactly the most prepared at the moment though leaving in the city. If such did happen tomorrow my best bet would be to get straight to my truck and get the hell out of Dodge.
>>30481126
Same but add some pillaging with my now illegal ar-15 before I go.
>>30485817
At said drive in, as AGM, slight salary increase and bonus for moving but eh.... I decided to start paramedic school this coming semester
>>30477248
>Noguns
>Make guns out of pipe and wood
>Mark people's maps in hopes of cooperation
>Hope they won't shoot my face
>>30483754
>I base this off my assumption that most people that who aren't total psychopaths will be left by then
Why does everyone think this? Where the fuck are they going to go idiot.
>>30485252
There are no rangers in Tennessee faggot
>>30486027
Cause you know exactly where my friend lives. Nice bait though
>>30486053
No you retard. Rangers can only get stationed in 3 places and Tennessee aint one of them. Stolen fucking Valor I'm calling VICE
>>30486081
He's not in the rangers anymore. Did you ever think about that.
>grab nugget and bob
>begin trek down I85 for god-knows how long until I see buildings stop showing up
>from there its only crazy rednecks for another 60-70 miles
>reach hometown
>hope friends/family haven't been killed/worsed
>hole up in rural Southern town until habbening stops habbening
Or die in the process.
>>30477248
>Germanistan
>No guns
>kinda fat and untrained
>totally depressed
Dying sounds like a plan.
>TFW First Responder so I have tons of resources to take
>Know hidden locked areas where nobody would expect to look for supplies if SHTF
Once 911 systems go down or stop responding I would immediately go loot local fire stations and storage locations that I know of for a lot of critical supplies. Things I would get: Tools, Medications, EMS Supplies, Flares, Map Books, Workshop supplies,Forceable entry tools, power tools, generators, thermal cameras, shit maybe even a truck to draft water supply if need be.
I would fortify my house, maybe put up sandbags and small trenches and have people pull guard duty every night, and bug in. I live in an area with so much wild game I would have no trouble finding food. After that I'd pretty much just try to survive. Similar to this guy in Bosnia
>>30480998
>>30486109
> Implying all these supply rich places will be empty of other like minded humans.
> Implying there won't be hundreds if not tens of thousands of people doing the same.
>>30486144
>> Implying all these supply rich places will be empty of other like minded humans.
Most stations look abandoned, and if people don't know where to look or whats valuable they will miss a lot of shit. And my community is rural, so there isnt many people around here that would. I know off hand the location of at least 20 fire stations, and one EMS stations are. In my county, you can bet only maybe 1-3 would have been taken from within the first hours of being down. I live less than a half mile from a station with all the supplies I would need. And given that I work there, I would get advanced notice as to when things would go down and would be able to get what I need right away.
I live in apartments overlooking a pharmacy. Hello drug addicts.
>>30486156
I've been a prepper a long time and we know all about those secret places.
The best thing and worst thing about being a very active member of the prepper community as long as I've been is that there are no secrets. None.
We have lists of every municipal and state reserve and warehouse everywhere. We are fanatical about this shit.
I seriously moved a couple hundred miles because way to many people knew my power level and now we stray completely to ourselves as far as prepping goes. We don't even receive shipments at our place anymore because the fucking delivery people take notes sometimes, you never know who's prepping and the smart ones are the dangerous ones when you really think about it..
This is something most people figure out the hard way. I remember when I was in my early 20's and I bragged about a underground shelter we had dug in our yard, neighbors on both sides decided they would just pack their fat asses in with us during a tornado, like we could get 9 people in there and bar the door.
Think shit through anon. You plan is going to fail and you'll be sitting there holding your dick and an empty food bowl.
I was thinking that maybe a local Walmart or similar would do well. The one in my town is nearby the gun/sporting goods shop, maybe hole up in a place that has a shit ton of supplies? Or is it too big and the best bet is to bug out to my parents house in the country?
>>30486305
Any area that can sustain a walmart will have a population big enough to drain available supplies as the shit is hitting the fan. There won't be anything left anon. If you lived with hurricanes you would know how fast everything goes when the warnings go out...every fucking time.
If you don't have just about everything you need and a plan you practice now and again you are fucked. Not trying to talk shit at you anon.... just trying to wake you up.
>>30477248
I am probably going to run off into the heart of the shit, skin the first person I find, and wear it for protection.
I mean, statistically a few of us have to be the bad guys, right? Otherwise what are we worried about?
>>30486264
pretty much this.
It's going to go something like this for the masses.
People don't really understand how much that even a basic knowledge of survival techniques, first aid and engineering can do. A few weeks into a SHTF scenario and people will be sucking dick for clean water.
>>30480650
Nigger you are so talking about steamboat in colorado in plan b. At the top of the gondola
>>30477411
APEX
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>>30486402
This may or may not be accurate. I will neither confirm nor deny these alegations to prevent my sweet ass bugout spot from being found.
>>30480791
>ghettos
>hunting
They'll kill each other before the idea of approaching the woods ever occurs. They hate forests anyway.
>>30481537
>>30481816
Go for it. I think you could wire up a barebones electric fence and attach a solar or wind generator to it.
>>30486229
I had to work with addicts once. They sure as hell don't listen and their focus in on completely random shit. If I could get away with it I'd beat the fuck out of them and run their fucking pockets.
Spanky Humps The Ferret situation for me: either sit on my ass and starve or go full nomad. Townhouses everywhere, ghetto on one side, farms on the other.
I would likely try to barricade some of the industrial buildings around my work. Very sturdy high walled concrete shops that I could outfit with grow rooms, crew quarters, and the like.
I would ideally have friends and family that could help with patrols and walk the rooftops looking for invaders and such.
They are basically castles, and a lot of people are more focused on Fleeing than bugging in and being prepared. Biggest hurdles would be water and waste removal.
>>30482436
Tom, it's time to stop posting.
I live in a dense metro area. So the plan is to bug in until I can flee innawoods. Bosnia bro above though doesn't make me like my odds. I don't have many supplies so I'll have to waste my neighbors and barricade my section of the apartment building with their bodies and make the place look as picked over as possible so other people don't come for it. Once supplies run low my roommate and I will have to run night ops. Trouble is lots of police and military around here so it's hard to say how the gangs will form up. Basically try to play dead and stay alive long enough to find a way out or return to order
>>30477248
Live a little out of a small town
All our neighbors are ranchers and farmers
A group of rangers and a pish posh of other ex-sof preppers offered to supply security if we provide medical.
I'm a trained marksmen/EMT
father is a trained surgeon.
Group up with the SOF, Re-establish order in an unorderly world.
Remove Marxists.
>>30486264
So where does a person find these lists for their local area?
>>30489388
>make the place look as picked over as possible so other people don't come for it.
Won't stop them from trying.
I hope you get shot by your neighbors whom you'd so casually murder.
>>30486264
>This is something most people figure out the hard way. I remember when I was in my early 20's and I bragged about a underground shelter we had dug in our yard, neighbors on both sides decided they would just pack their fat asses in with us during a tornado, like we could get 9 people in there and bar the door.
Sounds like that episode of The Twilight Zone.
>>30477248
If it's just society collapsing for whatever reason, I'd probably try to stay where I am with my family and live off the land, since it's pretty rural. If we're talking apocalypse levels of fan-hitting, I'd try to get myself and my family to a certain island and bring food, weapons, tools, medicine, solar panels, and whatever else seems useful.
pros:
+ it's very isolated, being in the middle of a very large lake
+ it's not very famous, although most of the island is a national park
+ since most of the island is a national park, you don't have to worry about the water and soil being contaminated or worn out or even hard to get to
+ because it's an island in a lake, fresh water is always available; if it does get contaminated I could always boil it or even distill it
+ it's small but not too small, a few families or maybe a village (maybe even two or three) should be able to till and hunt and fish indefinitely
+ it's not the friendliest environment, which will deter the slackers
+ in spite of the above, it should be very livable, at the very least it should be very livable in the warmer months
+ the mainland nearby is pretty rural and has a lot of shoreline, so guns, boats, and maybe gardening supplies should be there
cons:
- it's very isolated; I'd need a boat, like a real boat
- because it's isolated and small and mostly a national park, scavenging won't yield much, and scavenging from the mainland will mean traveling by boat before and after, and even then it'll mostly be slim pickings because all the areas around it are rural
- it's not super hospitable-- it's a little cold, and this lake is known for brutal storms in the winter
- it's small, so there's not a lot of room for growth, and trading with any other stable communities that form will be kind of hard
- I don't know what the soil is like there; in the regions nearby (the Midwest) it's pretty usable, but who knows; I could always bring soil or fertilizer or just find something that will grow there
>>30486305
Stockpile what you need. Your plan involves getting stomped to death in a riot, because everybody goes to Walmart for supplies.
Build a stock of at least 30 days of everything you'll need to survive. Food, water, tp, meds, fuel, cleaning/hygiene supplies- everything. Learn how to filter and purify water. Take some first aid courses. Learn how to cook, and about nutrition.
Start building up a library of reference books and manuals. Infographics and other comic book shit on your hard drive are useless when the power goes out. It's ok to have some tactical stuff in your library, but you want to focus on the how-to stuff that'll keep you alive. Growing and preserving food. Animal husbandry. Carpentry, welding, metalsmithing. Small engine mechanics. How to make soap and biodiesel. Homebrewing. Gasifer power production. Solar power. Papermaking. Pottery and glassblowing. Weaving and spinning. You get the idea.
You don't need to be an expert in everything I mentioned, you do need to try them all so that you have an idea of the work involved. That's not an all-inclusive list, btw. The important thing is to know enough to be able to get people started. Then you dig out the book and fine tune the process.
Check thrift stores in college towns. A lot of those books can be had for a dollar.
Never, ever count on Walmart to save your ass in times of crisis. Only you can do that.
I live near a sporting goods store (where I also work) and by the intersection of two major highways so I'm pretty much fucked. If by some miracle I'm able to grab a few things from work before the looters do then I'll just bug in. Maybe live as close to normal as possible until I run out of medicine. Honestly, I'd like to hike over to my friend's house a few miles outside of town and bug in with him.
If it's a super fubar situation then I'd lone wolf until I could find a group willing to take me. After a month or two my epilepsy medicine would probably run out and if I end up being stuck in a vegetable like state I'd ask them to kill me and burn my body.
>tfw you know that you won't be able to make it through SHTF unless you have a steady supply of meds
>>30477411
alpha cuck
>>30489989
forgot a con: because it is host to a national park, it may be more famous and sought-after than I bargained for
>>30486359
you're doing Satan's work, anon
I loathe but respect you
>>30489628
The Division: Hicksville
>>30484501
>Will end up just shooting everything in sight until I get shot
Pretty much this desu. License to kill?? Ok cool.
>>30481012
Lind pls go
>>30490037
Epilepsy isn't a modern invention. I bet a lot of ancient seers and prophets were epileptics. Pitch a grand mal, roll your eyes back, froth a little, and people will believe anything you tell them. They figure if you're going to put that much work into it, it must be true.
Added bonus, you get a teen qt as your caregiver. That's standard issue. I'm getting sweaty just thinking of the possibilities.
>>30486378
>A few weeks into a SHTF scenario and people will be sucking dick for clean water.
People able to make large amounts of really fucked up water safe for drinking will be the kings if it ever comes tumbling down in any first world nation that can't handle the nasties in their digestive tracts the rest of the world doesn't even think about. Dysentery running rampant will cause more people to commit suicide than hunger.
These are the kinds of things the idiots on this board never think about while they pretend there are leet operators who will be kings if SHTF.
>>30489785
>>30486264
>I've been a prepper a long time and we know all about those secret places.
>The best thing and worst thing about being a very active member of the prepper community as long as I've been is that there are no secrets. None.
>We have lists of every municipal and state reserve and warehouse everywhere. We are fanatical about this shit.
I've been doing solo/family prepping for years and have no idea about this kind of thing. What sorts of communities should one be joining if they want to contribute to the overall readiness of their area, and also to share this kind of information? We talking online, face to face, or what?
>>30490821
>People able to make large amounts of really fucked up water safe for drinking will be the kings
Or they will get enslaved and forced to make purified water at gunpoint. Assuming it's not just some mechanical device they own instead of knowledge, in which case it can just be taken from them.
>>30490841
Not the guy, but you won't be finding too many online prep communities willing to be forthcoming about taking in new members.
The government will keep close tabs on those who are.
>>30477248
My plan? Bug in with milsurp bolt-action and .45 to keep the bandits away. for small game (squirrels, rats, pigeons, jackrabbits) I've got a slingshot and I'll set up snares. I need to get a lot more supplies yet, but I'm certainly not going to try and nomads up unless it gets real bad. It'd be suicide otherwise, because suburbs.
>>30490653
Holy fuck I have literally never thought of this. Thank you anon, I now have something to at least TRY for
>>30490325
God damn, I'd play that.
Wear: Jeans/ Carhartt Pants , Work shirts
gear: all the gear queer stuff and some old surp mixed in
Vehicles: Horses/ATV/Pickups
Battle rifles/carbines (due to long distance engagement)
Beautiful hilly country side
Room clearing old country homes/barns
Building your territory.
Removal of Communists factions
I quit playing vidya, but I would sacrifice a few hours to play the game.
>>30489785
If you have toask we will never telll you. With out showing real motovation to provide for yourself and being someone who wants to be part of a larger community for saftey no one will care of you live or die.
True preppers have already reconciled with how much killing there will be and have drawn their lines in the sand. We know that we may have to let friends starve because if we don't no one survives. What makes you think a stranger with empty pockets will be well recieved by those who spent theirtime and money making sure their pockets were full when it was needed?
will be ZERO gibsmedats getting handouts from our community.... but those who have something to bring to the table and are willing to work very hard can find a place. Good luck anon.
>>30489913
>Sounds like that episode of The Twilight Zone.
Look around anon, we are in the twilight zone. The gov is telling us we have to allow grown men to share bathrooms and showers with our prepubesent daughters and a third of our youth wants a confirmed marxist socialist for president.. Wake the fuck up.
>>30491082
I'm no gibsmedat, but all of my preparations have been about acquiring skills and supplies purchased honestly--I've made no plans on taking anything that isn't mine. I realize that's a foolhardy notion when things go fully tits-up, but as of yet all my effort has been to make me and mine as robust as possible without going after stashes set up by anyone else, private or govt. Thinking everyone who would ask that kind of question (for their local area, to not infringe on your own) is a shiftless bum is a bit disingenuous.
Good luck to you too anon, the storm is coming and I hope we both are around to see it past.
>>30491138
If we're in the Twilight Zone then I have all the time in the world.
>>30489989
I feel bad for you. Not even trolling. The amount of reality you are denying is astounding.
You will be competing for survival with everyone in a 25 mile radius, how many empty stomachs is that anon? What kind of population are they anon, people who have lived peaceful lives among other law abiding neighbors or did they grow up in densely packed violent urban centers. There are real mathematical equations to predict who is going to get by and who may even prosper.
Preppers know what they are and have planned accordingly. You haven't planned and once that feces starts moving toward that oscillation it's entirely to late to gather ye roses friend.
Just saying... that if you haven't already been gathering what you and yours need you are already fucked. Enjoy that FEMA camp anon, I'm sure those handing out the water and MREs won't flee for greener pastures the second they hear the last supply truck has come and gone. heh heh heh.
FUN FACT for free, cause I like you.
Every motherfucker wit a few functioning brain cells who has ever seen that island you talk about is going to try to get there. Every place that MIGHT have fresh water and a food source will be stripped as bare as a wheat field by a swarm of locusts once every one is starving.
If you don't start thinking opposite you will not do very well/
Remember EVEYONE in a 20 mile radius is looking for the exact same things as you.
>>30477248
Ok I will play OP
>>30480650
I like your methods Mr. East I am from the West
Live near all major cities Commifornina Fucked by population density alone.In a non-nuclear end of world SHTF
Plan A
>Get some Marine and other service buddies of mine together with their families (sons/daughters/wives)
> 13 Families max
>Go North West to find a good desolate place or North East depending on area of damages
>Setup for the long term
>Close enough to population centers to pillage for food/more specialized medical supplies/solar panels/ Farming supplies
>Living the life off of old world tech, methods, and wild game
>Farm year round
>Hunker down in the winter
>Try to lead, live, and train everyone regularly while doing patrols for shit coming our way
Plan B
>Get skeleton crew addition of my A plan team (less families)
>Many large apartments in my area
>Apartments are gated, high risers, and strongly built for earthquakes meaning hard to bust down
>Designed for access only from a few key points and can be easily monitored
>Has a few rivers near it along with lakes
>Friends/Families are within 10-15miles overall locations
>Use multiple areas for FOBs for information/observation
>Start converting the place and building some infrastructure for deep real fucking harsh conditions
>Has small game in area
>Places in this area are built to keep poor people out
>Generator s vary from place to place
>Civilization is dense but for supplies and solar it is abundant
>Farm the golf course since they too are many in the area
>Live comfy with hot summers
To Be Continued
>>30491401
Plan C
>Pretty much plan B but without friend's just my family or having such an easily defended location
>Would be much closer to people
>Slightly less worries about weather as I am for the population density
>Poor farming
>Nearest major military base worth going to is 60-70miles otherwise small Army bases and or Army Air wing is 10miles away.
>Place of strong hold is smaller but more capable for maintaining with small numbers
>Shit could still be worse I live near kebabs, Chinamen, Indians, Jews, and a few whites next city over has dressiest area of Mexicans other than LA
Plan D
>Assemble crew of about 10-15
>We have 2 high way options either the 101 or the 5 both very difficult if we go north or the 215 for very hot conditions
>Staying away from major interstates and population centers will be impossible but manageable
>Look for abandoned houses as we go
>Raid, gather materials, and move
>Cover about 10-15 miles a day and take it all slow and smoothly as possible can mean less detection
>Would be living off of canned goods and whatever is found passing by
>Guaranteed involved in more conflicts
>>30490841
The prepper community if fuckhuge and love to teach but hide your power level. I'm the anon who posted about moving because so many knew how well we are set up.
Heres a story, I'll keep it as short as I can.
I was a member of a local ZombieSquaad chapter. Great people and they helped us become completely self sufficient if we come to that, loved most of them. Then at one meeting it dawned on me that at least two of them would become marauders and these people are very competent not like that fat ass kiddie fucker from doomsday preppers, they would absolutely target people they had befriended if it all fell apart. This is a mistake you can keep from making anon.
Know this, once you start prepping for real you will be on lists, they passed a law a decade ago just for us. To confiscate our supplies to redistribute for the greater good...and that will become for the greater good of those in charge real fucking quick.
>>30490873
Is this you >>30490028 ?
You have your shit together I see. I'm thinking of creating a wiki concerning prepping for our fellow /k/omrades, if I do are you interested in getting involved?
>>30491418
Plan E:
>Use house or apartment of choice
>Assemble 10-15 friends
>Get all the supplies from normal means and or unconventional
>Live in said area and defend that motherfucker while being comfy
>Would be intersting
Plan F:
>Get all the shit from Police stations and apartments as I move on
>All the ammo
>Raid military Army Air instillation first then Marine
>Get more ammo
>Armored shit is a must
>Make heavy armor vics
>Go to CIF or DERMO and raid what’s left
> Raid barracks because some dumb boot left gear
>Raid the armory
>All the MGs
>All the LMGs
>All the Rifles
>All the MK19s
>Get an LAV or AAV
>Fill crew compartment with more important supplies
>Because I know how to fix and operate said vics my team and I are now blitzkrieg tactics
>Go innacity
>Remove Burrito
>Remove Basketball
>Remove Ramin
>Remove Yamaka
>Remove Kebab
>kill everyone
> Liberate Commifornia
>>30491152
>I'm no gibsmedat,
I'm sorry if I offended, I do that acidentally a lot.
You are already on your way, just keep thinking LONG TERM SHELF LIFE for everything you need and many things you like . Think about getting to a year of food, meds, toiletries. Think about entertainment ..books and shit.
As far as who you will group uo with...good luck anon. This is the hardest thing of all unless you have life long friends. JoinING or starting a group is a real risk and HIDE YOUR FUCKING POWER LEVEL.
As far as stealing from others you have no clue what you will do if you become truly desperate. Do you have young children? People will be eating other people anon. They will eat people.
>>30489989
How did I do? I did these ones. I wasn't really trying but it was more of on a whim kind thing.
>>30491401
>>30491418
>>30491505
>>30491082
>there will be no gibsmedat hurr shoot you if you come asking for anything
>but we're going to raid first responders, DoD buildings and civil emergency supplies that have been paid for with taxes by the greater community
You're a hypocritical faggot, enjoy getting your house torched and your family lynched after you blow away your neighbors on your front porch.
>>30491505
You could have just narrowed this down and just put remove people but this works I guess....
>>30477248
you faggots realize that when SHTF the thousands of nuclear power plants and radioactive waste storage facilities will go unmanned and eventually melt down rending the planet uninhabitable
>>30491568
That's a lot of projection there hoss.
Are you implying people don't have the right of self defense if SHTF as we do now/ Are you implying people will be asking nicely for handouts when they are starving?
Are you implying I have to share half of the things I saved up in preparation for that fuckhuige rainy day and guarenteeing my family will starve as well/
You a bad troll of some idealist 15 year old who thinks everything and everyone is equal and life is fair. Grow the fuck up.
>>30491676
Well it's more like dozens but yes, what happens to all those super hot fuel rods. Now add all the chemical plants with shit almost as nasty at radioactivity and the fires...oh the fires in all the cities.
A true coast to coast SHTF in the US will be a hell the best horror movie writers can't imagine. Think about 330,000,000 people with nothing to eat anon. I hope we taste like chicken.
>>30477248
I will try to shelter in place for as long as possible. I know my land and home very well, and its set up to my liking. Sitting on 1.25 acers, so long term gardening probably wont be enough buts its close. Biggest fear is apartment complexes about 2 miles from me. If I had to leave, I have a family member with a 60ish acre farm, or if it comes to it, I guess I could go hobo style until I got killed.
>>30491683
I'm saying that it's hypocritical to complain about people taking what isn't theirs after bragging about how you and your secret prepper buddies know where all of these govt and private buildings full of supplies are.
The second part is the reality of what would happen if you took your attitude into a real disaster scenario, regardless of what is right or wrong.
>>30485778
Are you okay?
>>30491814
So the stores of foods in gov warehouses belongs to the gov then. Good to know. I hope they share it with everyone the same and not keep it for themselves, they wouldn't do that would they anon?
Also I never said I would steal food from others ever, I stated a fact that people do not know what they will do until that day comes for them., That day came and went for me and I like show I handled myself.
>The second part is the reality of what would happen if you took your attitude into a real disaster scenario, regardless of what is right or wrong.
As far as how I would do in a real disaster, go read this thread I posted in a bunch of times, and there is no chance I'm doxing myself you dickhead. Not everyone on 4chan in a basement dwelling neckbeard.
>https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16627
>>30491564
Is good comrade. Is good indeed.
>>30491564
Oh shit, I missed these.
Do you want honest criticism from an oldfag prepper anon?
>>30477248
Kind of depends what is going on, but more than likely I'd just hunker down in my house, draw all the shades and watch my property through my security cameras. I have a 10-foot high brick wall all around my property with crushed glass on top, with motion-activated lights every ten feet. The security cameras offer overlapping coverage, so even if one goes out, I can still monitor that area with at least one other camera. Anyone who tries to climb over gets shot. I've got thick security bars on my windows, so it doesn't matter if they get on the property, they're not getting in without cutting the bars.
That said, I'll probably kill myself from boredom once SHTF.
>>30481126
quit crying like a schoolgirl with your bitchass
is why they created cliche that says never too late
and the other one says never stop learning
now mix the two in your own special concoction and get er don
the list of shit i learned as new in 2015 alone just may make your purdy lil pig-tailed head spin off axis
once you discover choke points and funnelling games, strategic geography, and mucho other shit, prove the concept with closest of homies things start looking a hell of a lot brighter
growing food is stupid easy, o ya, last year saw me sets up aquaponics system and bitchenly robust greenhouse
survival skills for us spoiled rotten califags will be the avoid evade escape type shit and if you aren't drilling down on it now, well, thinkgs might just be hopeless as you sayso
less califags = more glorious CA for me to enjoy and claim as kingdom
goolock watevs you go with
>>30481171
I gots a special little sumpten for all yall modern day uncle thomsies
but it's a secret so until then
I'll go look for bunkerbro
>>30492630
>moleman
>>30481537
>ahhnold love to crank his crank
>result always snoozing ahhnold
try an og auto generator or even a modded alternator, your bicycle and faruncle jebediah who's punishment for eating triple the sum of all others is riding his bike into town on the daily. don't forget all them deep-cycle lead acids. build a water/windmill and profit I ain't missing ANY episodes of mr robot yaheard
one far-fetched idear I had at one time was to farm a fucktonne acres of palms for the pressed oil to then power my 60kWh gennie.
>right back to lazy living with nary a hiccup
I hairbrained the source for the watering needs from that great irradiated aquifer in the desert
logistics quickly got mind-boggling. and jeb will thank me for the extra two years he hammers out in our apoco-wasteland
>>30483594
>>30488192
i copied that all the way down to parchment muffukkas
u thot ur bases was all that got belonged to us
wait ti u get a load (hehe) uh wat i got fo yo azz
lil spoiler fer ya: inlcudes some dat barbey/k/ue souse wit heavay molazzes fukboi
mmmmmm we'z gonna have a ribald time i know you can't wait
>>30482436
>handloads=lightning rod of the recluse godsman
>>30483605
spotted the faggot libtard
>>30484501
doods, whenevs you wanna offload funs and return to frendz for coombuyaa, lemme know. I take all funs and then somes.
can't imagine how one could hate vegas wat?
I mean the hookers and coke alone...
but only been there cpl mos. myself.
installing sweet canon safe at company office this friday
gonna be empty for while lest you donate
or
no homo ver1.2 we can buds eh /k/omrade???
ehhh ok we stick to original plan
I adopt funs and you get traitorious, ehhh, I mean loving social circle redids
>>30492698
Nope, this anon is in a whole new level.
>>30485252
>silos
>gottamuffukkinsonofthebitch.mp3
wikileaks much friendo???
>and to fuel my reconstituted air machines I will use salvaged flatulence
nostalgia much??? and when marauder comes destroys buityful new lawn ornament how will this is handled. mutch curious now my friend
>>30492086
>The security cameras offer overlapping coverage, so even if one goes out, I can still monitor that area with at least one other camera
Those security measures mean you have things they will want and they will never stop trying to gain access to your home.
Greyman means survival and that set up is great for everyday civilized life it is a deathnell in SHTF, even if you have the means to power it long term.
>>30492630
When in doubt...dig it out
>>30492698
WE DIG WE3 DIE WE DIG AGAIN!!11!!1
>>30493021
B1's and c130s are stationed here and some b-21s are supposed to be here as well. There is even a c-5 that's out here sometimes
>>30486098
Jagdschein Machen?
dann weißt du alles, was du wissen musst.
Außerdem abnhemen, am besten bei der Bundeswehr.
>>30485618
>>30485637
>>30485756
>>30485817
priceless and by that I mean the wasteland for as far as you can see. no reselling happenin cause aint no buyers at no price. priceless
>>30485637
>virginlife forrealz bitches
>goin to ask out
>oh the boys of summer.wallppr
a little slow and don't mean it in an insulting way, but do you need quidance as to wat "girl" has beed doing for like month now? unless intentions were of strictly brownchickenbrowncow.gif nature I strongly suggest maybe better we just move on no?
>>30491926
im guessing once teeth removed from piehole he'll be peachy
>>30493130
Ehh just wanted ask her out. I got a list of girls who are single. And I know I'm stupid
>>30485992
The idea is that they're the types of people to be rioting and looting when shit initially hits the fan. So there's rioting and looting when it first starts but hopefully once the initial fighting has died down there will be less potentially hostile people. It's letting the craziest go first and die in the chaos.
>>30491926
>>30493171
Do the two of you want want to get curb stomped now? I got two feet faggots I can accommodate.
>>30493200
OK. OK. Let me try it this way.
First let me state for the record that I do not believe for one second we will ever see complete SHTF...WROL...TEOTWAWKIOMGWTFBBQ type happening ever. Something like that is a meteor hitting us or the super caldera going full retard and that kind of thing is over in a few hours so no real happening IMO.
If it really happened all the way across the country the rioting over food is just the start and the most civil it will be for a very long time. Once the powers that be realize they are losing control they will consolidate the fuck out of their resources and power. That means all the good stuff and people with guns will circle the wagons. Their families are now assets and the rest of us aren't even on their minds at this point. There is no help coming ever, the non stop high impact sexual violence just keeps on coming. There will be no come to Jesus moment for the masses, we will start eating each other. It won't even take a fucking month in the most densely populated areas.
Just how do you think it's going to calm down as everyone becomes more and more desperate? Fuck you people just don't get it.
>>30491470
>I'm thinking of creating a wiki concerning prepping for our fellow /k/omrades, if I do are you interested in getting involved?
I could contribute some, I spose. I'm not a prepper in the classical sense, but I do live in a place where natural events do tend to cull the unprepared.
>>30493431
Dude we are fantasizing. Calm down
grab sks and go innawoods
>>30493444
>but I do live in a place where natural events do tend to cull the unprepared.
We all do it's just that someplaces see that shit regularly and others rarely.
The funny thing is the places that see it rarely suffer the hardest because they live in the fantasy that everything's fine and always will be. When you live in the gulf or lower east coast you know a hurricane is coming at some point...in the midwest they quickly forget how bad a 100 year ice storm fucks them up their asses and the retards on the west coast will never be prepared to take care of themselves after a big earth quake. Fucking welfare mentality asshole liberals.
>>30493461
Then play make believe and stop trolling the anons ITT who are having serious discussion about preparing for natural disasters and shit. Can you do that.
Another thing, don't start shit won't be shit. Don't be a cunt who talks shit then cries like a bitch when you gets a response in kind, pussy.
>>30493559
What ever
>>30479253
Can i share your 'loads' anon?
>>30493744
You might do OK if you like taking a lot of loads, but whores will be so cheap ...you better be a QT3.14 anon...are you that QT3.14?
Pics or GTFO.
>>30491356
so what would you recommend, building a bunker in the fucking desert and staying there until you starve?
I intend to be active, even if there's risk to it
in this family group we've got at least half of us that can deal with rationing food and water, one that can hunt plus three that can learn
water should never be a problem anywhere we can get to
if the island isn't doable we can find a spot on the coast, there's no way it will all be occupied, it's too big and too rural
if that's not doable then we'd just stay here, as in the less-bad SHTF idea
>>30491715
Don't you want to come eat chicken with us, anon? In the basement? It's so... dark...
>>30491971
It's for everyone. Your stuff is yours, that's different, that's fine. Taking stuff that's supposed to be for everyone isn't the worst thing, but I hope you don't feel high and mighty about it. I would only take what I need from places like those and either leave the rest or share it with others, if I could-- but then maybe I'd die that way.
>>30492698
>ywn have SHTF and survive unnagrount with your bros until you become a Morlock
>>30494181
What exactly do you plan to hunt? Most big game is going to get extinct from all of the normies from the city trying to do the same thing.
Small game? You would have better luck raising them as livestock. Less labor intensive and less danger of travelling.
What do you plan on hunting with? Guns? You'd better have a suppressor on that weapon or everyone within miles is going to know where you are. Bows can and should be used If you are proficient enough.
Also coastal locations are going to have problems with pirates. You'd have to have many armed people to defend against that threat. That means you'd have to be aware of everything happening around the island all the time.
>>30493531
>retards on the west coast will never be prepared to take care of themselves after a big earth quake. Fucking welfare mentality asshole liberals.
Because 90% of them are imports from elsewhere. I spent my life here, I've seen what happens when the ground starts moving. It depends on what part of the west coast, I guess. Here in Humboldt County, countywide tsunami drills every year. Of course, most of our imports are concentrated at HSU. Survivors can be integrated into the labor pool, I guess.
If we get a big one, we're on our own for a month at a minimum and we know it. SF bay area is only 300 miles away and they're going to get all the attention. Kinda like what happened in Louisiana and Mississippi during Katrina. Folks in Mississippi didn't waste time bitching to the press about where da gummint cheese, they just picked up the pieces and got on with life. Red state/blue state difference, I guess.
>>30493559
Who exactly do you think is being serious versus who's talking bullshit?
>>30486402
>>30486924
You two niggers stay well and far away from that area.
Also, have you guys eaten at The Pit on 5th? Fucking fantastic.
>>30494523
Truth is the larger SF bay area communities are just better prepared for a "bad day" than the rest of the country. FEMA dude here.
>>30494181
>so what would you recommend, building a bunker in the fucking desert and staying there until you starve?
I just want the anons I spend time with here to wake up to their rsponsability to provide for themselves is shit gets bad. That's all.
Something is always habbening some where, look at Venezuala right now. Our MSM isn't saying shot about the entire country srtarving, their hospitals completely out oif supplies and their emergency responders no longer coming to work.
I just want everyone to make rational decisions about what they will eat and drink and how they will stay clean and infection free is SHTF. This is my only goal.
>I intend to be active, even if there's risk to it
Great... what plans do you have, how many people are in this with you?
>in this family group
Excellent, now do you have enough food and clean water for every one for six or twelve months cause if you don't you are fucked..period
>if the island isn't doable we can find a spot on the coast, there's no way it will all be occupied, it's too big and too rural
\there are over 300 million Americans competing for survival...stop telling me about all these places you will set up homesteads in the 12 months they are all starving to death. Get real anon, I'm not trolling I'm trying to wake you up
>if that's not doable then we'd just stay here, as in the less-bad SHTF idea
Again, if you don't have EVERYTHING you and yours need to survive for at least a year in a cool dark defendable place you are dreaming. This is a sad cold fact. I'm sorry if you hate hearing it but there is not time like the present to get ready.
Lack of potable water will be equal to food in the cause of the deaths of your loved pones anon and you have been earned
>>30494342
Not me. I have thought that through and decided I would eat my gun before I ate people.
It happened during Katrina, people started eating people. Our Gov kept that shit quiet. I don't know if anyone here remembers the day the national guard cut the cables the media was using for their satellite up links out side the superdoma but that is the very moment they stopped telling the truth about what happened in the superdome from getting out. We never saw any footage from inside that place further than 20 feet inside the front door. and only 5 or six people were ever "interviewed" on live TV. Think about that anons.
>>30494415
>It's for everyone. Your stuff is yours
But it's not.
Congress passed a law giving emergency personal to take large stores of food from provate citizens after Katrina. Now everyones pantry will be confiscated in a state of emerge4ncy.
About 8 years ago "The Survivalists Forum" posted a message on their forum. It went something like this...." The Federal Government is trying to get us to hand over membership information about all of our users, we have refused and will die before we capitulate"... the gov has worked very hard to know who has lots of goodies that can commandeer "for the greater good" meaning for themselves and their hired guns.
They want access to the food we have saved up for our families while keeping the food our taxes have payed for under their lock and key and being guarded by people who salaries we pay.
Think about that shit smart ass.
>>30494462
You seem to have your shit together. Wood you be interested in helping a few of us put together a wiki for our fellow /k/omrades to use as a primer for getting started prepping?
Keep your eye out for a prepper thread next weekend and if you are interested in helping educate our fellow anons have a disposable email address ready good sir.
>>30494523
So very happy to hear from you anon, nothing brings a smile to my face than knowing there is one more person out there planning fo r he future.
My point was that the liberal elite that controls everything out that way is criminally negligent when it comes to preparing for the inevitable. Look at how well Japan handled one of the worst natural disasters the globe has seen ever. They knew what the fuck the were doing.
Can you imagine the utter chaos that would follow the same event in Cali? Fucking liberals are the enemy of everything orderly and good. They are so busy making sure every special snowflake group feels safe to protect the entire community from the devastation they know is coming in the next few decades. Cocksuckers all of them
>You seem to have your shit together. Wood you be interested in helping a few of us put together a wiki for our fellow /k/omrades to use as a primer for getting started prepping?
Keep your eye out for a prepper thread next weekend and if you are interested in helping educate our fellow anons have a disposable email address ready good sir.
>>30490037
I'm an epileptic as well
>>30495237
Link to law or proof of legislation please
>>30495448
Don't acknowledge him it's just what he wants
bug in.
conquer the neighborhood and organize it. raid supply stores for essentials. build up into a castle town as we expand our borders.
people will accept my rule in exchange for order, security, and food.
>>30494612
>Who exactly do you think is being serious versus who's talking bullshit?
How many weeks/months can you provide everything your family needs to have a decent existence anon?
You answer my question and then I will answer yours.
>>30495368
I'm more armchair intellectual than anything. I have no concrete real life training, but I read a lot about this kind of stuff and it fascinates me. I'd be willing to contribute to a forum that we can build upon. We can take the better info from the forum to put up on a wiki. I'll go as The Chairman from now on.
>>30495448
>>30495470
>https://www.thereadystore.com/emergency-supplies/3154/would-new-executive-order-seize-your-food-storage/
Read this before you post more hatred at my attempt to wake people up
You should look this up your selves, you should know what is going on.
If you can't be assed to know what they have already planed out you don't deserve the air you breath.
They hate us, they hate every last one of us who can provide for ourselves.
You can hate me as much as you want . It doesn't change the facts of the matter... unless you can provide for yourself and you loved ones if shit really hits the fan you will be at the mercy of the ones with the most guns, plain and simple truth anon. Why are you so angry at me for stating this? Why are you this pissed off at my warnings?
>>30495903
I don't care so quit trying to convert me
>>30495101
>Truth is the larger SF bay area communities are just better prepared for a "bad day" than the rest of the country. FEMA dude here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FAGGOT, the bay are will lay down and cry when the next quake comes. They are the least prepared area in the entire USA, the are too busy passing laws to protect murderous illegal aliens and homeless street shitters to think about the well being of their taxpaying citizens. I will dance and sing when you get what is coming to you... you complete scumbag liberal.
>>30495101
Concentration of resources plays a big part of that. Some of which become nonviable in an event. I was in Alameda during Loma Prieta. SF was paralyzed for a solid month after the fact, Oakland for a good 2 weeks. And it took, what, 18 months to clear debris and rebuild the freeways?
We're just as prepared in Humboldt as the Bay Area is. Probably moreso, since there are 3 land routes into the county and each of them spends some portion of each winter closed by rockfalls. We're also no stranger to power outages lasting up to 2 weeks.
But, the fact is, we have 140K people in a county slightly larger than Rhode Island. We're also at the conjunction of 3 tectonic plates. When the big one levels the Bay Area, we're going along for the ride. And then we'll be on our own for at least a month while SF gets all of the FEMA hand-holding. We're well aware of this fact.
Bay Area has an assload more funding and resources. Out of area strike teams would start arriving within 2 hours. Tons more first responders, with dozens of hours more training. But don't even begin to try telling me the general populace is better prepared.
>>30495515
>people will accept my rule in exchange for order, security, and food.
If you can provide order people will rally around you.
How do you plan on providing that order and safety anon/
>>30495695
>I'd be willing to contribute to a forum that we can build upon.
Welcome aboard Chairman, look for a prepper thread next weekend so we can start teaching out brothers about being ready.
>>30495921
OK, stop posting in a thre3ad that doesn't interest you then
>>30495973
>Ok
What does this mean anon.... I'm trying to get the anons I post with to wake up to a very possible future, do you want me to stop that?
>>30496001
I'd be up for helping with a wiki. I have a collection of useful/relevant links, with a focus on firsthand experiences of a wide variety of disasters/SHTF.
>mfw I knew exactly which zombiehunters thread you had linked to before I clicked the link
If you rode out Katrina, you ought to share some more of your lessons learned from it in this thread, would be more useful than scorning/mocking the anons who won't prepare.
>>30496001
No the thread does interest me. You don't
I have next to no hope for surviving an actual SHTF situation. So my plan consists of me scrounging up some alcohol and a couple of boxes of surplus real fuckin' NATO, going to the ghetto section of town, and sniping the melanin enriched populace while I get drunk and try not to get shot or tumble to my death. Might as well cut down the pool of potential looters/marauders/cannibals before I die. And I'll be sure to save the last round for myself.
>>30477248
probably just die
I've got a zippo and a can of febreeze, I might be able to make a flamethrower
>>30481537
>charge a laptop
>Shitposting after your government collapses and anarchy takes over half the country
>>30495515
You'll find out on day 1 that leadership is a monumental pain in the ass. I'd recommend a modified system of representation. Each dwelling has one person making decisions and accepting responsibility for all of the people in that dwelling. Each group of 5 to 20 dwellings elects a spokesperson to be their leader. Leaders make decisions after hearing input from household heads. Some decisions may require a vote, if so requested. Each house head may request no more than 5 votes per calendar quarter.
Spokespersons answer to a neighborhood council, composed of all the spokespersons in the town or borough or whatever political subdivision is convenient. In eastern states it'll be by county, because those were set up so that no part was more than half a day travel away from the county seat.
The idea being, you don't have mob rule democracy, but you also don't have a rigid centralized dictatorship or whatever the fuck it was that the Soviets had. Local decisions get handled at the local level, doctrine and strategy comes from on high, policy is formulated at the intermediate level to best fit local
conditions while conforming to doctrine.
Now, about responsibility. It goes both ways. You're responsible for the lives and wellbeing of all of the people you want to boss around. Among other things, you have to make sure they have what they need to carry out the orders you give. You also have to make sure that their living needs are met. And absolutely fucking zero smoking or hazing.
If you want to be the guy in charge, plan on working 20 hour days for the first year. Learn how to delegate, don't be afraid of the people who are smarter than you. That's what staff positions are for. Remember that every decision you make has to be in the best interests of everybody you're responsible for.
>>30490069
Only the finest BBC for my GF
t. alpha cuck
>>30477248
Lone wolf survival is stupid and damn near impossible. I'm gonna spend much of my time moving people from one place to another with four or five others for a price. Feel like that would be pretty good.
>>30496001
>What does this mean anon.... I'm trying to get the anons I post with to wake up to a very possible future, do you want me to stop that?
It means I'll keep my eye out for a prepper thread. I'll want to see how it shapes up before I cough up a burner email address.
>>30496549
Convoy escort, or wagon train security- whatever you want to call it. Then it morphs into transporting high value parcels, next thing you know you're doing some kind of postsl service.
Once people figure out what you're doing, your life gets a little easier. If you can figure out a way to warranty your neutrality, you could wind up brokering trade agreements and treaties.
>>30485921
That wouldn't be Abilene glass and mirror
>>30496614
Look out for marauders
>>30496073
Look out next weekend for a thread about making that wiki anon and please have an email you can post ready. Also post with a trip so we know who is legit and who isn't..
As far as my advice from what I learned during Katrine it's all in that thread I posted. There really is no more to say. You can grill me in the chat room we will have for making the wiki.. talking about shit here on /k/ will only get diluted by the trolls who refuse us having nice things.
>>30496078
So you would let your prejudice against me stop you from helping your /k/omrades.
That says more about your character than mine friend.
>>30496235
Just look for the prepper thread next weekend anon.
You are much more valuable then you realize right now.
>>30496335
I hope you join the thread next weekend anon and I really hope you use a trip because the anons won't have the same weight as the trips and you have things worth saying
>>30496559
I respect that anon. Never hurts to protect your home and I tell every one to protect their power level at all costs. See you next weekend then.
>>30496790
>I really hope you use a trip because the anons won't have the same weight as the trips and you have things worth saying
>on a primarily anonymous imageboard
>>30477248
Bug in at the house we have off the grid way upstate NY. Probably take a full day to get up there but anyway, have a garden up there with enough seed and canned food to last a few years at least, creek with clean water runs through but have a filter setup just in case.
That or bug in down here at home, coordinate with my friends and coworkers to convert the immediate area to farm area and establish a medical destination to keep people friendly.
Have plans for both really. Depends what kind of SHTF? CBRN? Bug In, definitely.
Government gone full retard? Bug out.
>>30496790
All I know is I won't be really friendly in a situation like this. I'll fire warning shots at you if I even see any of you. And again don't really care in the long run
>>30484077
10 hours at 3mph is do able. Assuming they had easily portable shelters, walked on roads, didn't have to stop and forage for long periods of time. As well as them all being fit enough to walk 3mph with a frame pack loaded to brim for 10 hours.
I couldn't see your average American being able to do that though. I've met so many fat and skinny people that just let their cardio go to shit. I'm a little chubby but I still go on 10+ mile hikes with my 3 day+ pack.
>Local, natural disaster based SHTF: law and order will return
Go cycle over to my relatives' with my meager food supplies and my weapons, and watch my tax dollars go to work. There are enough of them to keep a watch, and their house offers a more defensible position than mine does. If my hometown is unaffected, spend three days or so cycling there and hang with my folks until it's through.
>Civilization as we know it is over
Die of radiation poisoning.
Get on my bike and ride back to my hometown, get killed by starving raiders.
Make it to my hometown, see my parents and brother one last time. Suck start my pistol rather than starving and die tired.
Decide not to, abscond with family into the wilderness. Die tired, cold, starving but not alone.
In the event of civilization ending, most of us will die. The people that live will be the hardcore preppers like in this thread, and the government assets who have bunkers to retreat to. Let those preppers have their day, I think. They earned it. Not fair of me to lay any claim to wasting their supplies when I don't really have any useful skills and haven't adequately prepared myself. I can just wrap all my shit up so it'll last, and be of some use to those with a better chance at it than I.
>>30477248
gonna roll the Akhmet way: grab some mates, do some jobs for the corrupt military/whoever has guns, fortify my shit after booting out the local mobs,and stockpile all my shit for ages
>>30485952
Fucked off garvey
>>30489851
Gotta get them before they enrich me. I'll try working with them, but I'm not here to save them
stay in my house in the suburbs and kill degenerates and zog. when my shit gets burned down, go raid until i die. i wont kill you on sight if you are white and dont look autistic or a fed.
come on over faggots, just a waitin game
>>30491520
>People will be eating other people anon. They will eat people.
Trump, is that you?
>>30485778
Use your imagination fuckboi
>>30486091
So he's not a ranger then
>>30477248
I bought a dirtbike and rigged it up with radio gear, emergency equipment, and a bit of extra fuel. Estimated range is around 350 miles.
Small enough to move quickly through the forest where cars cannot. I will disappear into the Appalachian, like a leaf in Autumn.
>>30486095
Just get away from Atlanta. A nissan Altima has a fuel range of 550 miles assuming the blacks had a full tank of gas.
SHTF in noguns bongland? wouldn't happen. Even when the gibsmedats "rioted" in london a few years a go all they managed was to steal some xboxes, post it on facebook and then get arrested for it.
The only time we'd get a major happening is if another country came to our shores and started shooting up the place, in which case most of the country would be making signs saying "INVADERS WELCOME" and the rest would be too busy watching match of the day and masturbating to respond.
My plan is to take my hot neighbor and start a sexy harem to repopulate the remains of the UK
>>30477248
>shoot my family under the chin in their sleep when food and water runs out as I couldn't risk venturing off alone leaving them to starve if I don't come back
>crawl on my hands and knees like those Mexicans do for penance and leave my fate up to God while headed north on the roads
>>30477248
Live in the sewers eating rats raw for sustenance. Hunker down while you all kill each other above ground. Assuming I don't get every disease known to man, slowly learn the layout of the town, eventually the state, and finally the entire nation. Pop out of manholes to loot places at night and eat bodies of the murdered (Night vision will honed to owl levels living in the sewer). I'd booby trap my main tunnels in case anyone else tries my idea; plenty of shit to cover my pungee pits and barbed trip wire. Grow potatoes and carrots in those big open tunnels with sunlight access.
>>30496845
I have a similar plan if possible. Make it to my parents place in a very small town in the Adirondacks. Everyone knows each other kind of place so wouldn't have to worry too much about locals killing for supplies. Most are older and know how to grow/hunt/fish/forage the area very well. Lots of summer homes of people that wouldn't make it back that we could scavenge for supplies. Only three roads into town through the mountains that could be cut off fairly easily.
Like some anons said there's a worry about over hunting and fishing. Although I doubt we would have to worry about too many people coming up to try their hand living off the land. The neighborhood already has a few tame deer and I don't think it would be too hard to start raising them. My uncle has a few bee hives and plenty of chickens that can be expanded pretty easily.
The cold and disease would be the most challenging things for sure. But people survived here during the 1800s, so with enough cut wood, heavy clothes, and first aid knowledge it would be doable.
Start a cult and take over the wasteland.
I will fund my faction by stealing and selling drugs.
I will recruit a white trash army and create my own little nation where i am king.
Lock the front doors and catch up on all those series I've been backlogging.
>>30498371
Can i join? I could lead the army special forces "Cletus Commandos"
>>30479345
You have read it?
>>30493065
Then I'll kill them. I have my garage attached to my house, so I could just rig up some spring-guns and make a bunch of shot-shell traps.
>>30481126
It can always get worse.
>No rule of law
>Drug fueled loot/rape/kill frenzy of the street gangs
>starving/water deprived hordes pouring out of the cities looking for food,because almost all city people think rural people have an abundance of crops and livestock with the coldest, sweetest well water you can imagine (and a pond stocked full of fish!).
The Hollywood image of rural living only comes in 2 types- cannibal hillbillies and idyllic Smallville. When "just in time" delivery stops at the local markets,they'll risk the rapey cannibals for the abundance you have,and are anxious to share with whomever stops by. And if you don't share,you're being selfish,and deserve to have it stolen.
So you can look forward to Mexican Reavers and desperate, panicky,stupid hordes.
Learn some foraging skills designed your area.
Buy a month or two's worth of freeze dried food,and bury it deep out in some national or State park land. The large ammo cans are awesome for this.
Learn where your local water sources are. In my State (Connecticut),a lot of the hiking trail maps mark local,hidden springs. If you live in a more arid area,buy the stuff for a few air stills.
Caches can be your friend.
>>30481387
Desperation is likely best option.
If possible, try to figure out a way to start a garden somewhere, easily accessible from the block (indoors, perhaps on the roof) that others can't get to. Set up rain barrels, or buckets, anything really.
Food and water will be huge, but remember water first.
Water you'll last 3 days without. Food is 5 to 7.
As long as nobody decides to attack the whole block, and as long as you have water and a functioning garden, you'll be fine.
Stay inside and ride it out
>>30481285
Hae a heart traps are a good investment.
I've taken to putting some cat food out in the woods periodically to keep raccoons and possum going there. If there's a breakdown in food delivery, I can put out some set lines for fish,take the leftovers from cleaning them,and put them in the traps out where I currently put the cat food.
Anything I trap out there I can use the offal to bait my set lines. Minimal output for protein.
My garden is small,but takes up almost half of my cleared yard. I bought a couple books about local edible and medicinal plants. Guess I'll be foraging.
>>30485252
>Call my ranger buddy
Your already a pussy. Like he would drop other shit for your ass.
>Stock up from a military base if they fell apart
They already took what they needed when they fell apart.
>Turn the airbase into a fortress, see if i can get aircraft operational
Holy fucking underageb8. Or neckbeard NEET
>>30498546
This.
Also try to form a small town with neighbors. Try to control the roads in as much as possible so the hordes of 'apex predators' don't try to chimp out on us
>>30477248
>lock myself in at my suburbanite rental home
>starve to death over the next week
>>30486264
My job requires a lot of driving. I've started keepinga book of places of interest,where if there's a breakdown I have a list of places to go to in the first 72 hours,before the cattle start to stampede.
Stores and businesses that caught my eye,either because of what they sell,or what they have.
One example-an environmentally friendly warehouse with over a dozen banks of small windmill generators on the roof. The banks (of 4) are too big to lower off the roof without equipment, but each unit could be rigged down by 2 men,1 on the roof,and 1 on the ground.
I would lone wolf it, into the woods I go, up into the mountains. Within just a few weeks I'd have a bear fur suit to keep me warm.
Just have to get out of Florida first, which means I'm probably fucked and that's not gonna happen.
>>30490821
$10.00 investment,smaller than a 2 liter bottle,and good for THOUSANDS of gallons of chemically treated water.
I'm planning for my neighborhood, not just my family & friends.
>>30493114
>>30486098
bundesländer?
>>30498614
At least I have a plan. And my ranger friend would most definitely help with taking enemies down.
Let's hear your plan asshole
>>30477248
I purchased 1 acre of land for $2,500 in a rural area that's easily accessible. I put a half-underground building on it that's very secure and has enough food/water for 4 people/2 years. It was surprisingly cheap to set up, doing most of the work myself.
None of my friends or family know about it other than the 3 people I have selected to "ride it out" with. They've each invest about $1,500 each in weapons/ammunition/food/water/building materials.
my only "kit" is a simple chest rig and pistol belt/IFAK for my SPR style rifle and sidearm, along with an assault pack that has enough food/water/ammo to make the trip, even if on foot (which takes 4 days, have done it twice)
>>30491356
The wandering hordes actually made me come up with this. It's not perfect,but it should redirect a lot of the desperate and unprepared. A handful of us in town are going to go out to the surrounding areas and tape these to storefronts and traffic signs at intersections,along with cutting down street signs on State roads that mention my town. The hope is that these flyers will take people far enough away that they won't have the energy to come back.
One big bonus for me is that all the large cities within 50 miles are all on the other side of the river,as is the nearest highway going to the shore. The only bridge in the area comes into town,but it's a swing bridge, and it's so old that it can be made to open by powering it with a tractor's PTO in an emergency. Boats can be scuttled,but a couple thousand people flooding into town is too much to deal with.
>>30498823
>At least I have a plan. Let's hear your plan asshole
Not him, but...
Having a bad plan does not inherently beat having no plan. In fact, with some exceptions, it's the reverse.
i live in Canberra Australia. as far as national capitals are concerned, Canberra is really small and spread out. Currently i get an odd 80% of my food from foraging around the year and rabbit snaring and my bees nest. it would be more, but damn i like to eat maccas every now and then. i have a few ceramic filters as well as chloride and iodine crystals stashed away enough for years of fresh water as well as stocks of anti bacterials and sterilizing solutions like vinegar and peroxide.
the food that i do buy is all non perishable. i literally go shopping only once every 2 months to stock up on things like sugar and long life milk. i have been trying to learn as many skills as possible, not just for survival but its really fun learning new things. atm i have been processing clay to make pottery.
on terms of security, i haven't told a soul person irl that i prep, the place i'm living in, i have made sure looks normal and even a tad run down from the outside but is very secure from the inside. i don't think the wild life here would be hurt to much since its aus and its like 1 in 10 people own a gun but there is a museum near me that has among other things a really nice 1850 navy colt i might borrow.
>>30498917
Hey I remember you anon, you were here asking about blowing the bridge into town some years back. I was the anon who suggested tearing down the highway signs for your town's exit, and/or putting up fake quarantine zone signs (and possibly removing all supplies from the nearby highway-adjacent gas stations to further make travel through the area difficult), way back when.
That FEMA flyer there is taking things to a new level of brilliant. Thanks for sharing it, I'll definitely keep that one in mind for future plans once I accomplish my move to a smaller population center.
>>30477248
Major military installation near our in-progress small family farm / homestead.
Pro:
Many quiet professional retirees who teach the neighbors if you're not a total ass.
Weapons, rations, meds, comms, water, and other supplies are not a problem.
Local "old families" like us.
Good physical location for the farm, onion-skin defensive layers; looks like our place is the future location of the neighborhood citadel if a major collapse happens.
Past weather-related events have revealed which neighbors can be counted on for what.
Con:
Post is a FEMA suppository.
Airfield flight path over our house.
Methamphibians in the trailer parks and Dindus in town, some gang activity.
We are successful but low-key producers; still a potential resource for above.
Best local bugout location is too close to a major metro area.
Some of the retirees can be...um...unstable, at times.
So, my realistic concern is that we we may have some internal strife once the abatis is in place. External threats are either handled at the lowest level or so far over my head that it isn't even funny. I'm currently learning about multi-purpose force multipliers.
>>30477248
I live right next to chicago so im automatically dead. Might as well start my band of marauders/be an edgelord.
>>30495442
Join me in doing this >>30490653
We'll be prophets of the /k/ube. Hell if it's the end of the world, why not have some fun? Take advantage of the truly insane.
>Mfw
>>30490028
I would highly recommend Readers Digest "Back to Basics" book for a good intro / overview of the skills you've listed.
"Foxfire" in encyclopedic form.
>>30484077
>easterners
>pussies
It's the other way around there, bud
>>30499317
The Encyclopedia of Country Living, by Carla Emery is also a good one to get.
>>30499658
>>30499317
>>30490028
What topic-specific books would people recommend?
>>30499121
My plans have evolved a lot. In the event of a big disaster, I'm still planning on taking care of me & mine first and foremost, but I want to assist the community at large as much as possible as well. If we're all doing as well as possible,my family is a little bit safer.
>>30499658
Good one!
Have you seen MG Kains' Five Acres and Independence?
Also, http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Household_Cyclopedia_of_General_Information/
Your library is wealth and power, Anon. Be careful with it.
Suck starting a shotgun
>>30499695
Not to be a smart ass, but first, check out the ones we've listed.
Those pretty well cover the whole range of
Band Aids
Barter
Batteries
Beans
Bikes
BlahBlahBlah (commo)
Blankets
Books
Bouncy Balls (entertainment)
Buddies
Build
Bullets
Hope that helps?
Thing is though, you have to go out and try this stuff to find what works for you IRL.
A lot of it looks simple until you're cold, wet, hungry, tired, and sick...but if my Grandma could do this stuff, you can, too.
>>30499830
Could you tell me more about your community assistance plans? I'm doing alright in the individual prepping part of things, but I really want to get things better for the folks around me.
>If we're all doing as well as possible,my family is a little bit safer.
This basically, and my family is not close to large enough to do everything necessary come a real SHTF; hell we'd be pressed to even mount a regular area patrol/evening sentry and be able to accomplish anything else.
>>30492047
Yes I do mind you I was kind of upset when writing this. My kid yanked my cord to my phone into my drink and had to walk away to vent....
>>30499965
I'll do that, though I've read enough general stuff on prepping and homesteading from other sources that none of that is new concepts; I'm looking for quality sources that drill down deep into more niche categories within that--about the only one I've got a good list for is wild plant collection/eating.
>>30496614
The Postman was a decent movie.
>>30501284
Was a better book (though not by THAT much--a lot of plot differences though).
