>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36680899
>Taiwan's navy has mistakenly launched a supersonic anti-ship missile from its Kaohsiung naval base, say officials.
>A patrol boat was undergoing a drill inspection when the Hsiung Feng III missile was set off, Taiwan's Central News Agency (CNA) reported.
Impressive
The Republic of China truly shows that they are the overlord of the Asian Region. Firing a supersonic Harpoon class missile shows they have the technology to lead Asia into the decades to come. Americans must be sweating hard and praising Allah that there was no carrier accidentally hit in the region.
What are physical controls like aboard ships?
Maybe someone sneezed and flipped a switch then pressed a button.
>>30463706
Taiwan isn't China dumbass
>>30463706
fucking moron
Taiwan officially the Republic of China (ROC)
China, officially the People's Republic of China (PRC)
American education system at its best ...
>>30463918
I dont think he is american. Everyone knows the harpoon is a subsonic american missle.
>>30463823
It's a rogue state of China.
>>30463823
>>30463918
I think you guys got trolled.
Although why does a tiny island like Taiwan have supersonic missile technology but the USA does not?
Why did they copy a Harpoon
>>30463918
>"Americans must be sweating hard and praising Allah that there was no carrier accidentally hit in the region."
>thinks the poster is an American
You wouldn't happen to be a European, would you?
>>30463775
Maybe someone was bribed and sneezed and flipped a switch and pressed a button and PLAN divers have already recovered the missile to study
>>30464150
>he thinks the missile is intact
>>30464156
source?
>>30463706
>.bbc.com
Not clicking that, you can't fool me
>>30464166
You need a source to tell you that a missle hitting the waterline at mach two wont survive?
>>30464177
Do you have any information about the condition of the missile?
>>30463941
because the HF3 is a fairly primitive supersonic missile, best be compared with China's 70 era C-101, still equipping external boosters etc.
It compares unfavorably to the modern supersonics of the PLAN, such as the YJ12 and YJ18.
>>30464209
Yes, but it is mine and you cant have it.
>>30463823
Taiwan is continuation of pre-commie China you dumb faggot.
>>30463937
Other way around commie. Rest of China is illegally occupied by commie terrorists.
>>30463775
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/10697895/Navy-warship-accidentally-fires-torpedo-at-nuclear-dockyard.html
>Navy warship accidentally fires torpedo at nuclear dockyard
>An investigation is under way after a 9ft missile was fired from HMS Argyll at high security Plymouth nuclear submarine dockyard during training drill
Happens to the best of us
>>30464209
It hit a fishing boat and killed the captain.
>>30463706
>leaves out the part where it turned around and hit one of their own fishing boats.
for the lulz
>>30465235
Would be enough for any western power to pound ass, china probably will do something sneeky to not bring naval power battle to region
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_-dO19PXw
Basically says that the PLAN coastal radar and missile brigades immediately turned on their FCS after the launch of that missile, preparing for counter-attack by DF-series ballistic missiles.
But the PLAN radar brigades noticed how it blasted one of Taiwan's own fishing ships instead, and were just lol ok.
Only five seconds more, and we would have had a new Taiwan Strait Crisis going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0vUlljX0I
>>30465881
The BM's would have a hard time actually hitting anything on taiwan itself, as the Taiwanese navy has a fuck ton of SM-2's and pretty much all of their navy is in perfect position to intercept at optimal points.
>>30465914
You are joking, right?
Taiwan's navy is anything but in a good condition and the SM-2s they have are still old shit fired from those rail-launchers from their old Kidd-class destroyers.
Only their Patriots could do something, but China has 1500 BMs targeting Taiwan at all times, so it makes it moot. And the DF-15B that they readied in this case are equipped with MARVs.
>>30465881
noice.
>>30465941
>n and the SM-2s they have are still old shit fired from those rail-launchers from their old Kidd-class destroyers.
They ordered 166 on top of all the others (back in 07), of the SM-2 block IIIA, which is the latest missiles, without the IR seeker however.
>but China has 1500 BMs targeting Taiwan at all times
I highly doubt china has 1500 TEL's in the first place.
>>30463706
>Taiwan
The same country that was humiliated by a Flip Coast Guard boat?
>>30466000
>They ordered 166 on top of all the others (back in 07), of the SM-2 block IIIA, which is the latest missiles, without the IR seeker however.
Still, they have no Aegis combat system to go with. And no BMD capability for their navy. They want to acquire it for their planned next destroyer, but it is doubtful whether the US would sell it to them, seeing how the ROC Armed Forces are completely infiltrated by Chinese espionage.
>I highly doubt china has 1500 TEL's in the first place.
SRBMs and MRBMs they have. This is an established fact.
>>30466023
>SRBMs and MRBMs they have. This is an established fact.
They have 400-500 DF-15 total, about 1000 DF-11's, about 200 DF-21A's, and less than 20 in all the other classes.
So basically, the ENTIRE PLRAF is pointed at Taiwan.
that seems silly, being that there are other threats.
>>30466081
number's are bit more balanced. Taiwan actually needs less missiles to shut down. But DF-11, DF-15 are Taiwan exclusive, since nothing else would be in range.
DF-16 is the Okinawa Killer
DF-21 is the general purpose MRBM/ASBM
DF-26 is the Guam Killer
>>30463775
The TAO has a missile key that locks out the crew from being to to fire a missile unless it is inserted and turned. The crew actually fires the missile aka Bulldog.
>>30466093
>>30466093
BF-15 could hit the flips, Vietnam, etc.
It just seems absolutely silly to have more than 2/3rds of your force for one non threat, really, and all of those missiles can only hit static targets, the main one of which can (as the ROC claims) take a nuke hit.
>>30466150
Philippines and Vietnam arent even considered threats by China. India as well.
China really only considers the US and Japan to be a threat - and Taiwan as the appendix of them.
>>30466146
This graph is a bit misleading, it implies that those targets are under threat 100% of the time by the full force.
In reality, each point will only be under threat by the number of missiles in its range, which verys by where the TEL actually is.
>>30466159
If Taiwan is not a threat, how come they have 1,500 missiles pointed at them?
Furthermore, the USAF already stated they will have no issues with landing aircraft on civilian runways if it comes down to it, that changes the game immensely.
>>30466182
Taiwan, or rather the geography of Taiwan, is a threat by being a proxy of US/Japan to project power against China proper, if they declare independence and invite US/Japanese troops to have their bases on them.
China is completely OK with Taiwanese independence if Japan and USA werent hostile to China. But since they are, and this cant be changed no matter what (usual great power conflict), Taiwan is a vulnerability to China that has to be kept in the current status quo by the threat of invasion and violent retaking.
>>30466146
>H-6's getting close to anderson in wartime
Wew lad, and this is ignoring that the H-6 is a terrible plane. I have no idea why the Chinese are insisting upon upgrading it. Not even the Russians kept their TU-16's around.
>>30466216
>and invite US/Japanese troops to have their bases on them.
US aircraft already use Taiwanese airfields. I mean we are at a distinction without a difference at this point.
>>30466227
The H-6s arent going to drop gravity bombs, but launch cruise missiles from stand-off distance - which is actually inside China's airspace.
>>30466241
Yes, and the Chinese side protested sharply, which prevented the US to use Taiwanese bases on a permanent basis.
And the USAF only landed on Taiwan due to emergency of evading a Typhoon.
>>30466256
>Yes, and the Chinese side protested sharply
(Deep concern intensifies) Oh boy...
> which prevented the US to use Taiwanese bases on a permanent basis.
The only thing that prevents it is the Taiwanese who thinks it is not necessary (mainly because the US has a tendency to sail the Taiwanese straight with a aircraft carrier when things get ansy)
>And the USAF only landed on Taiwan due to emergency of evading a Typhoon.
No, they just landed TWO F-18's becuase one had "issues". Two planes. Sounds completely normal *wink wink* Also..
>Emergency evading of a typhoon
Yeah man, just came out of nowhere!
Hell, the US just sold Taiwan 1.8 billion worth of shit.
>>30466246
>, but launch cruise missiles from stand-off distance - which is actually inside China's airspace.
They will launch them well over the SCS and in range of USAF fighters, USN fighters, and USN naval assets.
>>30464296
Are you fucking retarded? Taiwan is where the Nationalist leaders fled to after they were overthrown by the communists. The US backed the Chiang Kai Shek. Pick up a fucking book.
>>30464296
>Taiwan is continuation of pre-commie China you dumb faggot.
not any more it's not. the nationalists are now just one party of many, and not all of those parties give a fuck about the mainland.
>No abnormalities detected in Chinese fleets: Taiwan's Navy
>Taipei, July 1 (CNA) No abnormalities have been detected in China's naval or air force fleets after a missile was mistakenly launched by a warship during a testing drill from a military base in southern Taiwan earlier Friday, the Navy said.
>"No abnormal deployments of China's warships and war planes have been discovered by us following the incident, and all such news reports are far-fetched speculation," Navy Chief of Staff Vice Adm. Mei Chia-shu (梅家樹) said.
>He was referring to local media reports that said shortly after a Hsiung Feng III supersonic anti-ship missile was fired by mistake from one of the Navy's 500-ton Chinchiang-class corvettes during a testing drill at Zuoying Military Harbor in Kaohsiung at 8:15 a.m., it was immediately detected by China's radars and that in less than one second, Taiwan's radars also screened abnormal radar signals from China's Fujian Province.
>According to the report, the signals of Chinese radars returned to normal five seconds later only after the Taiwanese missile fell into the sea.
>Earlier in the day, Mei said the missile did not cross the median line of the Taiwan Strait before sinking into waters off the Penghu archipelago after striking the boat.
>The strait, which divides Taiwan and China, has an average width of 180 kilometers (97 nautical miles).
>The missile hit a Taiwanese fishing boat "Hsiang Li Sheng" (翔利昇) about two minutes after it was fired, killing the captain and wounding three others. But it did not immediately explode or cause the vessel to break up.
Looks like China's radar surveillance is pretty good in detecting a small sea-skimming missile such as this even over the horizon.
>>30466304
To strike Guam, you dont have to fly over the SCS. Learn some geography.
>>30469065
Impressive.
LRASM literally has no chance to evade China's radar surveillance.
>>30469065
>small sea-skimming missile
Missiles dont sea skim unless near their target, genius. Also the missile isn't a stealth missile.
>>30469332
The HF-III is a sea-skimming missile and the distance to the target was far too short for it to make a high-flying path, not to mention it would have never hit a fishing ship in accident.
That's how it is, dear straw-grasper.
Taiwan seems to be pretty incompetent.
China wouldnt have a hard time taking them.
>>30469773
actually, not only that.
The ROCA are deeply Pan-Blue (aka. Pro-Chinese/Status Quo) and would actually insubordinate against any Pan-Green (pro-independence) order to escalate tensions against China to provoke any form of US intervention.
There are tons of ROCA officers who were already found either sympathetic to China or outright being informers/moles. This is basically the reason why the US would never sell cutting edge stuff to Taiwan.
