What can be done to defeat islamic terrorism?
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>>30452385
Let them get win then start up another terrorist group so they are the ones that have to figure out how to heart the terrorists
>>30452385
Genetically-engineered airborne viruses that cause sterility or increase the ratio of female-to-male births.
>>30452385
>pic very related
As long as islam is a thing there will always be islamic terrorism. The only way we will be rid of it is if we get rid of islam.
The middle east will pretty much always be problematic though, you're better off glassing it.
Kill them with kindness
Buddhist terrorism.
Nuke them from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.
>>30452385
Roman Style Cultural Genocide
Use counter insurgency tactics.
Just go SS style. Burn villages, kill all population of a village if there is insurgency, terrorize them. If they are cruel, just be more cruel than them.
Basically the only way to stop it is war crimes. LOTS of war crimes.
>>30452385
Army and Marines go back in.
Gen. Mattis leading, no politicians.
We'll sort that shit out right quick.
>>30452647
We need Stormin' Norman.
>>30452654
Hell ide take either or both. Operation Phantom Fuck You round 3, all your sheep are belong to us edition. I'de go back in a heart beat if the fucking politicals let us make a real fight of it. I know every one of my comrades would to. Fucking cleaning house time.
>>30452661
You are fucking motivated. I love it. "Motivated, dedicated, death from above!"
>>30452385
Crusade
>>30452405
fpbp
>>30452654
>Not Sherman
>Not MacArthur
You guys are fuckin up.
>>30452385
Tell the state-department to stop funding them.
>>30452385
1) Remove Israel or at least stop supporting it.
2) Let them play it out for themselves. If Islamic State is what they want, it's what they get.
>>30453411
/thread
>>30452385
Wage a total mechanized war against Sunni Islam (the others seem to be able to get along).
Treat them worse than we treated the fanatical Japs in WW2, annihilate every last one, including the breeders and the mini-terrorists.
Great containment thread to keep all the dumb kiddies in.
>>30452633
>Use counter insurgency tactics.
This is exactly why it won't win.
Were the Nazis and Japs defeated by coddling up to them?
>>30452385
Education, jobs and birth control.
>>30453419
>remove their biggest target
>let them create a state to build up resources to attack their second biggest target... us...
Great idea! Isolationism is so great!
>inb4 b-b-but we created the instability!
For this particular brand of crazy terrorist organization, last I recall, 9/11 happened *before* Iraq or Afghanistan.
>>30453411
This.
Hang Clinton, Nuland and Kagan, as well as the entire NeoCon crew as well.
>>30453419
>1) Remove Israel or at least stop supporting it.
>2) Let them play it out for themselves. If Islamic State is what they want, it's what they get.
Moron.
1.) Islamist war&terror began in the 630s, not the 1940s. You know, dates do go back that far. Not sure if you're aware of that.
2.) That state will now be waging war against your culture and every other non-Sunni culture across multiple fronts and multiple theaters around the globe. Even in a best-case scenario, this means basically the same situation we have now with Islamist violence.
Sadly, >>30452454
>As long as islam is a thing there will always be islamic terrorism. The only way we will be rid of it is if we get rid of islam.
this should be /thread.
It really is an ideological/memetic problem that has become intractable to resolution by ideological and memetic means.
>>30453427
It won't work, you'll be in other threads.
>>30453501
Militant islamism began as soon as WWI, with the British (Lawrence of Arabia) inciting ethnic and confessional hatred to use against the Ottoman Empire.
>>30452759
>In their tongue he's "Porkakin", HARAMBORN
>breed the women
>baptize the children
>force them to only speak English
it worked on Indians and Abos
it'll work on them too
>>30453438
Or shrapnel and napalm...
Guess which is cheaper?
>>30453539
>implying the war wasn't a mix of the two
It is said with the money spent for the Afghanistan and Iraq war, the US could have sent one million dollars to each terrorist killed.
At this point I believe either death from above or a true humanitarian operation would indeed have been cheaper.
The reason the war was so costly is because the US gov wanted to do both. And you can't do both.
>>30452405
They're roaches, they'll just come right back.
>>30452407
>>30453533
Then we'll just get angry poor drunks who run casinos.
>>30452454
>>30453501
>killing an idea
this isn't a thing you can do by force of arms.
>>30453533
that's more along the right lines.
>>30453501
>1.) Islamist war&terror began in the 630s
>>30453568
Then how do you stop people blowing them self up in a city or going on a killing spree in a school? It has to be both because separated these instruments can't solve something.
>>30453594
You can kill an idea, you just kill everyone who supports it. Throw away your morals and a lot of things become easier.
>>30453568
we *always* opt for the humanitarian treatment first. The US gives humanitarian aid to like 99.995% of all countries on the planet, because it's 1/10th the cost to feed someone and take all their shit than it is to send soldiers over there, feed their survivors and our soldiers, and take all their shit.
We get what we want with food. War is not the US's first choice.
>>30452385
Force the western leaders to stop funding them, or Arab leader to be doxxed, thus they get hanged by their own.
Also...who are we to say ISIS doesn't have the right to self governing? No, seriously, freedom to self governing!
>>30453594
Actually you can kill an idea, just have to kill enough of the people who beileve in it.
>>30453519
>WW1
Older than that brah.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawarij
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad
It has been militant since its very beginning.
>>30453656
The original sin was the destruction of the unifying empire of the Ottomans.
You can't just draw Islamic militancy from the middle ages or 7th century, since in that time, it was considered normal to do so. See the christian vs christian crusades against the Slavs and their eastern orthodoxy.
>>30453402
>MacArthur
>>30453670
>The original sin was the destruction of the unifying empire of the Ottomans.
>ignoring all of islamic history prior
No. You keep trying to find recent historical memeanswers. Why is this? Are you so used to Western self-blame that you cannot conceive of people being evil without Western help? That's awfully Eurocentric and narrow-minded.
>>30452385
stop using oil as an energy source
>>30453697
You are being euro-centric to shift the blame for islamic fundamentalism and militancy to someone who lived in the 7th century and didnt do anything different to the established common courtesy back then, while totally ignoring that the West has destroyed the only functioning empire that could unify all these confessions under one crown.
I blame the Germanics for the destruction of the Roman Empire as well, for they have pushed Europe back to the dark age for at least 500 years. The destruction of the Ottomans at the end of WWI had the same effect to Islam.
>>30453716
>actually taking non-Euro actors seriously instead of making everything about Euros
>Eurocentric
You have this backwards my child
>>30453697
The Ottoman Empire in the 19th Century was busy trying to do three things.
1) Establish/Create an Imperial Identity to combat nationalism within its empire. The Turks themselves included.
2) Secularize so as to facilitate western style reforms and technology.
3) Emancipate so as to sever ties from Slavery and become respected by European powers.
It also fought a war against Wahabs in case you didn't know.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Wahhabi_War
That is what the first WWI ended: an empire trying to drag its people kicking and screaming into the modern age only to be ruined by a trifecta of retarded nationalists, allied powers, arab tribalistic nutjobs, and religious extremists
>>30453762
>3) Emancipate so as to sever ties from Slavery
I can make shit up too.
>>30453761
Sorry, but the effects Western colonial/imperial powers have had on the rest of the world and especially on the middle east (and their arbitrary borders) is well documented.
I take Warlord Mohamed and all these guys very seriously. But I also cant change the fact that the Ottomans were destroyed by the British and French.
>>30453602
>American "education"
>>30453762
this.
Ottomans were dicks, especially for what they did to the Armenians. But they were still the only somewhat secular power back there.
Ottomans are like Assad/Baathist today. A necessary evil that needs to be protected and supported, for they keep the Dark Age in check.
>>30452385
This is more of a /pol/ question, but its not like their answers would be any better.
I would target the billionaires in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE who are funding wahabi extremists with drones and special forces teams. Infiltrate their businesses and financial networks, find out how they're funneling money, then kill or apprehend them andcseize their assets.
Not starting any pointless wars in the middle east while all this is going down would probably help mend relations.
>>30453773
American education.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzimat
>The reforms sought to grant emancipation to non-Muslim subjects of the Empire and to integrate non-Turks more thoroughly into Ottoman society by enhancing their civil liberties and granting them equality throughout the Empire.
>>30452385
This is pretty /pol/ but whatever I'll chip in.
Islam as a religion was formed entirely out of vindication.
No matter what type of Muslim (Sunni, shiate, etc.) this is always the root.
Waging Jihad, violently removing infidels, and committing suicide are all things Muslims have been told their prophet looks proudly upon.
While I argue every religion has done more bad than good, Islam is the only one still committing violent atrocities on the regular because that's simply part of their religion. They've been doing this shit since the 7th century (before as well, just not as globally.)
Anyway, what I'm getting at is the only way to defeat islamic terrorism is to entirely eliminate Islam. Right now, the world would never stand for that, but I bet if we give it another decade (assuming it's not too late and the majority of the world isn't Islam by then) the world will start agreeing that carpet bombing any city occupied by muslims isn't a bad thing.
They want blood? They want Jihad? They want death and chaos?
Give it to them.
Tenfold.
>>30453917
simplicistic outlook on history.
If the Ottomans persisted, Islam would have their own reformation sooner or later, and became just like Christianity, which also was highly aggressive back then.
But the only unifying political entity that could rule over Islam died to the vested interests of the Western powers, and the Islamic faith has been stunted in their development, or even thrown back to the dark ages instead.
Now, of course, there is no other option but to kill them. But it didnt have to be that way, if we werent a bit more careful back then.
>>30453402
>MacArthur
Enjoy getting killed
>>30453697
>Dude what the fuck is Sykes Picot
>>30453965
The grand irony is that at one point the Arabic world was the technologically, culturally, and scientifically progressive one when compared to Catholic Europe. After a few crusades and lots and lots of infighting, they're back to burning people and killing them woth rocks.
Wow! Progress!
>>30453965
>simplicistic outlook on history.
>"if they'd just had more time, they would have followed the path we followed!"
>>30454091
>Invade country
>destroy social and governmental structure
>try to force language on the people
>try to take away their religion
>impose dictators to ensure flow of resources and compliance
Wow why are they so angry and violent?
>>30452414
Excellent idea!
>>30452565
The only method that has ever worked.
>>30452385
stop projecting power in middle east
>>30454070
>It was them evil White crusaders
>They think they's above the law
>Islam dindu nuffin'
>>30452385
Most Islamic terrorism has more to do with the political instability of the Middle East and North Africa than religious fervor for specifically Islam in of itself.
So...
>let the borders set by Sykes-Picot Agreement dissolve
>stop propping up this-or-that government for the sake of easier oil access
and, since groups like ISIS/ISIL, al-Qaeda, etc. are intolerant bad guys, let them act like intolerant bad guys while we act like good guys
>organize a conference among as many as possible Islamic leaders from around the Middle East and North Africa, including leaders who actively support terrorism; the purpose to hash how the many differences in Islamic belief and find some consensus about who is most right and who is most wrong.
>behind the scenes, makes sure the moderate/near-secular/Western-tolerant religious leaders have their arguments straight and are well rehearsed in how to present them
>make sure there are enough said religious leaders are brave enough to continue to argue even when their colleagues inevitably start being killed by extremists during the conference
>consistently and aggressively deliver, by whatever means necessary, aid supplies, including occasional luxury items, to random civilians and villagers throughout the region, with clear symbols on the aid packages that the supplies came from whatever Western nation funded the particular supplies; give the common people tastes of the wealth Western nations enjoy
>include with packages documents, books, etc. translated into whatever language is spoken locally about any educational topic that can't be used to build weapons, stuff that will help convince the locals to not support terrorism
>when terrorists inevitably start harassing & killing civilians over those aid packages, keep dropping them; again, let the terrorists act like the bad guys while we act like the good guys
You beat Islamic terrorism by undercutting its propaganda; undercut the propaganda and less people will fight for it.
>>30453539
Education, jobs, and birth control, actually
Those are investments that are almost guaranteed to bring economic value
All shrapnel and napalm does is create a wasteland for us to call "peace"
>>30454070
you forgot about the Mongols. Mongol invaders fucked up the Middle East more than the Crusaders could have ever hoped to
>>30454070
Uh, no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXtTwNvWXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzq01i2O3U
>>30454113
>literally everything muslims did to all the countries they invaded
>>30454189
Fuck me.
I didn't think I'd see a sensible answer in this thread, or on /k/ in general
Nice one.
Have a wallpaper.
>>30454189
If muslims didn't have a very clear and consistent track record of shitting all over everything Westerners tried to give them, you might have a point. How many terrorists were second or third generation immigrants?
Muslims respect strength and strength alone. As it stands, every scrap we throw their way only convinces them that we are weak and paying tribute.
>>30454189
Right so theoretically you fix the political situation, then everything is good (We'll exclude the issue of inifighting/persisitant instability due to slightly different types of muslims that wont to totally annihilate each other.).
>Thank allah because everything is good
>Allah inveitably wants you to eliminate the Infidels
>insert jihad 2.0 with stable political atmosphere
While I don't disagree with what you're saying and It'd be interesting to see that outcome, I think you underestimate religious zeal, especially with Islam.
Kidnap their kids and indoctrinate them. Release back into the wild.
>>30454272
Exactly, which is why we need to start slaughtering without relent, like they do. Only directed solely to them.
Dresden level shit with no remorse.
Unfortunately, our world is filled with too many heavy bleeding hearts who would passionately defend someone who wouldn't hesitate to slice their head off and make a scarf from their intestines.
>>30454282
But what do you indoctrinate them in? Shoot them up with vaccines and give them a taste for Sonic the Hedgehog gets my vote.
>>30454314
>Unfortunately, our world is filled with too many heavy bleeding hearts who would passionately defend someone who wouldn't hesitate to slice their head off and make a scarf from their intestines.
Word. It amuses and saddens me when people say that pathological altruism doesn't real.
>>30454317
lmao
>>30454317
Anything as long as it's western, Probably leftist ideals.
Assuming the mudslimes don't take the smart course of action and start containing the infection their entire culture will be undermined as the westernized kids spread their infectious ideals to the rest of the bite sized terrorists.
>>30453424
>Wage a total mechanized war against Sunni Islam (the others seem to be able to get along).
Nice try Iran
>>30454370
Highly unlikely, Western liberal ideas are weak and effeminate. In order to foist the kind of bullshit our elites have on us you need a high-trust society with a people who have consciences. Arab and African societies are anything but high-trust.
>>30453698
Stop using Islamic oil as a power source
> FTFY
>>30454573
This is part of why climate change denial bugs me. Who gives a fuck if it's real or not, fuck up a saudi's day spreading the magic and the mystery of THE FUCKING SUN!
leave middle east alone and increase anti terror policing efforts in your own country.
soon they will not be able to recruit or inspire more people. then a regional rival or dictator will crush them.
>>30454643
>stop buying oil
>stop selling stuff to the richer ME states
>economic situation gets worse
>more people join terrorists
>costs us tons of money because less trade / less oil providers
Not convinced here mate.
>>30454189
The problem is that hasn't worked at all
Get our dicks out of the Middle East. They'd still be blowing each other up but they would eventually sort it out like the Balkans did.
>>30454710
They would at least stop attacking the West though.
>>30452385
Just keep it out of your country. Who cares what happens elsewhere (so long as they don't seize enough power for it to be a threat to us).
We have to keep them out indiscriminately. If you don't agree to that extent, at least stop this refugee bullshit. A "refugee" is an immigrant without a background check. With what's going on in the world right now that's just ridiculous. Even with thorough checks we don't know who these people are, it's not difficult to acquire a fake/swapped identity in a third world country. Just look at how they seized the passport place in Iraq. Those weren't fake passports they were coming in with, they were official.
>>30455684
And point out where we tried it? If you genuinely believe that we are acting like the good guys in the Middle East then you are entirely ignorant of the situation.
Middle Easterners aren't spitting on western hospitality and kindness, they are resisting very real attempts to undermine their sovereignty, manipulate their economy, enforce our ideals on their society, and meddle in their internal affairs.
>>30452385
Why the fuck did we overthrow Saddam anyway? Fucker would have sorted ISIS out immediately if it could even form while he was around.
>>30455707
[citation required]
>>30455742
>Middle Easterners
>resisting very real attempts to undermine their sovereignty
>by whispering in Uncle Sam's ear to go undermine the sovereignty of the other guy
>>30455761
Nah fuck that man, anyone who's anti Kurd can fuck off
>>30453533
smile and optimism: gone
>>30455761
because weapons inspections.
>>30455761
Because the weapon industry needed the dosh, and your politicians are corrupt.
Kill all politicians, elect courageous selfless men, regardless of how incompetent they are.
Give them actually competent advisors. Watch everything solves itself.
That's why I'm all for Sanders, and our own european local good-willed but can't-into-economy left-right faggots.
A man can learn or at least listen, but there is no curing greed.
Use that 2ndA for what it was writen for ffs.
>>30452414
I'd be interested to see the long-term societal consequences the second one, considering their hatred of women.
>>30453594
>>killing an idea
>
>this isn't a thing you can do by force of arms.
Actually, yes you can. You don't see many militant German Nazis running around in 2016 do you? Or many Japanese believing they are an eternal empire or raping the rest of Asia?
You can ABSOLUTELY kill ideas. Its just that you have to kill people to do it. Simple.
>>30453533
>>30453533
>>breed the women
>>baptize the children
>>force them to only speak English
>
>it worked on Indians and Abos
>it'll work on them too
HOWEVER, this only works if you keep up the cultural warfare indefinitely.
DO NOT let the 3rd or 4th generation go back to "the old ways" because you feel guilty or sympathetic. That's when they become the drug addicts that Native Americans are today. And don't let any bleeding heart liberals start to treat them like special snowflakes and try to socially engineer them into prominence, because thats when you get the welfare-slave niggers of today.
>>30453602
Islam = The problem.
>570 AD work better for you?
>>30452385
Arm the Kurds (heavily), give them a state, and give them a functioning Air Force. Then just close your eyes and plug your ears. In 5 years (at most), the Middle East will be 2 things:
1. Covered in Muslim/Arab blood
2. At peace
Just teach people basic science and soon enough everyone will be atheist or deist. Problem solved.
>>30453640
>Who said anything about troops?
The cheapest solution.
Pic very related.
We have a hilarious amount of nuclear warheads sitting in warehouses
I'm 100% sure we still have some VX too
Why let it sit in storage when we have a use for it now?
>>30455697
Except the Balkans didn't sort it self out. NATO got their panties in a twist and intervened because the Serbs were removing Kebab, with a finish line in sight.
>>30452633
I some how don't see islamist daesh types willingly and easily getting on cattle cars.
>>30456087
Get out of here Estonia
>>30456079
I'm seriously disappointed we don't do that for those lionhearted bastards already. They're like the one group over there that actually likes us yet we throw in with the groups like the Saudis.
>>30454113
Islam spread thoughout the world the exact same way.
Theyre butthurt cause the religion tells them to be.
> tfw the middleeast was once predominately christian till islam forced everyone to convert.
>>30453576
Then Salt the bomb. Fucking 50 megaton, jacketed in Cobalt-60
>>30452385
Glass Mecca.
>>30456148
I never buy the excuse that we don't arm the Kurds because it'd hurt foreign relations with Iraq or Turkey or some shit. Like any of the ME countries like the US anyways. Iran and Saudi Arabia only tolerate us because we're good for business.
Fuck all of the goat fuckers and just give the Kurds some F-16s. They'd sort shit out real quick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbsesrAMjTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjACj6pzgLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf8ZlwLtSQM
>>30452385
Neutron bombs
Yeah yeah they structurally damage concrete but is there a single building in the middle East that wouldn't have to be torn down and rebuilt to a Western standard? If we bothered colonizing it. Treat it like Dune and just send fucks into the zone to pump oil.
Until there is a islamic Reformation all our western Muslims are tacitly complicit of not supportive of islamic terrorism and Muslim expansion.
>>30454423
And yet theyre just as easily lead, asshat.
Al>>30452385
Have the US stop funding it.
>>30456008
>Diehard Nazis don't exist and their propaganda hasn't lived on.
Bollocks.
>Japanese diehards who think Japan did nothing wrong during the war don't exist and their ruling elite don't go along with this
Just as bollocks.
>>30456308
>Kurds
Almost* as bad as the muslims
>>30456308
Yes, because giving arms to groups you've been told are the food guys, groups that just happen to share a common enemy with you, has always worked out for America.
>>30453762
Oh and you forgot one more hing from those roaches:
>Genocide the Kurds and the Armenians
Fuck you, drstroying the Ottoman Empire from the outside and inside was the best victory for my people
>>30456531
*good guys
KILLING MUSLIMS WOULD BE A FUICKING START NSA.
DEAR GOVERNMENT GOONS.
YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDS.
YOU NEED TO PULL YOUR OWN DICKS OUT OF EACH OTHERS MOUTHS AND GTFO OF THE WAY.
THE CITIZENS OF THIS NATION COULD HAVE SHIT WRAPPED UP BY NOW IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FUCKING FAGGOTY FEELS.
THIS IS A WHITE NATION CREATED BY EUROPEANS. YOU PENCIL PUSHING FAGGOTS WITH YOUR FUCKING FAGGOTY FEELINGS ARE GETTING US KILLED.
I MY SELF COULD HANDLE...QUITE A FUCKING BIT....BUT YOU AND YOUR MORAL EQUIV BULLSHIT IS GETTING ME AND MINE KILLED.
THE FUCKING DAY IS COMING. THE SAME DATA BASES YOU USE AGAINST US AMERICANS - WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU.
WHEN SOME ANGRY PEASANTS 30 YEARS FROM NOW FINALLY REVOLT - YOUR ASSES WILL BE SOUGHT OUT.
AGAIN.
GOV - WE ARE A EUROPEAN BASED NATION - WE ARE WHITE AND - WE ARE "FED" THE FUCK UP. I WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE BUT THESE NIGGERS AND MUDS AND MUSLIMS AND DIRTY FUCKS FROM SOUTH AMERICA ARE MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE.
GET THE MOTHER FUCK OUT OF THE WAY AND LET US OPERATE. WE ARE WILLING WHERE YOU BASTARDS ARE NOT.
>>30456597
Nice copypasta.
>>30453448
With Osama Bin Laden's stated reasoning as Israelis and Americans bombing hospitals and daycares and not even being willing to apologize for it.
They decided to attack the Israeli puppet state, America instead of Israel directly.
I was watching tv and a Middle East expert says to load up and take Al-Raqqah Syria. That is ISIS's capital of their "state". When you take that and keep it ISIS will then think that the caliphate is not meant to be at this time
>>30452385
If you kill your enemies they win.
>>30456448
Use neutron bombs as a form of area denial. Cut off supply routes, contaminate oil extraction and refinery facilities. Slit the throat of IS.
>>30454710
Osama attacked the Trade Towers twice, because he was butt hurt about US military bases in Saudi Arabia.
The other cause of butthurt is our support for Israel.
If we pull all our military out of the middle east and north africa. Sanction all the muslim countries but Jordan(they're cool).
Then in a few years they won't find new bodies to throw into the meat grinder.
We get less than 20% of our oil from the ME. We can easily replace that by buying from Russia. Which would also help improve our relations with them. Allowing us to keep them out of East Europe with out the stick.
>>30453965
They had reformed and adopted the french colonial legal system. Only when Abdullah Azzam reformed Salafism was the way paved for Bin Laden and co.
Isaac Cohen does translations of IS twitter feeds and occasionally a video or two on key figures and modern islamic history if you want to check em out. There are probably better translators out there but its the only feed I found that is objective and not obviously appealing to one side or the other.
>>30454189
Nigga that's gay as fuck the only way to degeat terrorism is to kill the islams. All of them. Just nuke the entire Middle East and let God sort em out.
>>30456707
Fuck that. build up a gulf war tier coalition, use it to surround the city, then have B52s go full Dresden as the infantry encirclement kills all the Isis fukkin shits as they scurry like ants.
>>30452414
Holy shit... This is perfect.
How I plan to deal with this:
I... swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will, as in duty bound, honestly and faithfully defend Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, in Person, Crown and Dignity against all enemies, and will observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, and of the generals and officers set over me.
I start basic training in October.
>>30452414
Okay but you still have to isolate a genetic trait for it to react to otherwise it will spread... Wait don't arabs also have a sickle cell ?!
>>30456087
Interesting idea.
I can see it playing out like this:
>Send science teachers to illuminate the 'Slamics.
>Science teachers beheaded.
>Soccer played with heads.
>go into countries where people think jihad is good
>kidnap their leading figureheads and replace them with synths
>begin to manipulate the enemy to think everything they know is wrong while obtaining dank Intel
>use Intel to give the people what they want to stir favor
>use other Info for wiling out parts of the populace that won't agree
>begin to replace more and more people with synths
>rise from the institute and wipe out neigh sayers
>just gotta spray paint a red cross on their all white armor. Looks good enough.
AHAHAHAH OTHER FAT BOI KIKES MAKE YOUR COICES FOR YOU NOW.
AHAHAHAHAH
THE NWO HAS YOU ALLLLLLL
>>30456087
Because plundering the library of Alexandria helped right?
>>30456108
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion-Projekt
Don't or we may never leave this god forsaken place.
>>30456542
>Genocide the Kurds and the Armenians
Slain by Turkish Nationalism. Not Islam.
civilization, literacy, gainful employment etc...
>>30456531
Kurds also hate Turks...
>>30452385
rabid Chechens
>>30454129
You uh, gonna post a source to that crop?
>>30452405
FPBP
Pork based laser weaponry
>>30452385
Really the only long-term solution is to go after the leadership and ultimately try to restore stability to the region. Nothing we do at home in the west can actually DEFEAT them - tightened security and a prepared and armed populace can make attacks likely to succeed, but terrorist organizations generally seem aware that the people they send to carry out attacks are very likely to get killed whether they succeed or not, so it's not like thwarting terrorist attacks will be an unacceptable loss to them, they can pretty much just keep attacking until someone gets through. Even if only one in twenty attacks succeeds, that successful attack is going to cause more damage (in relative terms) than the loss of 20 terrorists will to them. Really we need to completely stop the attacks from being made in the first place.
>>30456915
Sickle cell is common in Africans in general, I always assumed that was referring to subsaharan Africans rather than Arabs.
>>30452385
Crusades 2018 Christian Warriors. Baptist Warriors to be exact. They'll also pass a collection plate around twice.
>>30452644
Dubs confirms tickle torture
>>30453594
>this isn't a thing you can do by force of arms.
Are you retarded bro?
How do you think we defeated Emperor worship and Nazism?
It wasn't with fucking COIN bullshit tactics.
We killed them until they couldn't stand being killed much longer and submitted to everything we imposed on them.
That's how you deal with Islam.
If every child resists, then you slit the throat of the last mini-terrorist uttering the words of the false prophet mohammad.
Can I ask a stupid question?
Who the fuck cares?
50 people a year is nothing compared to the costs of a military campaign.
We can keep droning them indefinitely to reduce the life expectancy of their leaders, and pay whoever is near them to kill them.
That's plenty enough.
>>30453965
Actually, you're the simpleton if you fell victim to the revisionist hoaxes about a non-stagnant Islam.
>>30456448
I like your style anon.
These savage cunts know not what Total War is. They think we're weak because we tolerate faggots and let our women out of the kitchen.
We need to prove them how horribly wrong they were.
ISIS wouldn't stand 2 days in the field against a full mechanized armored force with artillery and organic CAS and attack helos. If we treat their cities and civilians as the complicit enemies they indeed are, there is no place to hide for the inbred Abu Hajars and their defective Mohammedan seed.
>>30459523
That would be a great solution if we weren't forced to accept a flood of their rapefugees and sleeper agents masquerading as victims of war.
Your plan only works if we implement a moratorium on all Mudslime importation, and put the ones already here into internment camps, like we did with the Japs.
After we're done killing them, the ones who want to become American will have to renounce Mohammad's law in favor of the Constitution or be sent to die back in their shitholes.
You're voting God Emperor, I trust?
>>30452385
stop funding saudi arabia would be a good start.
start a reconciliation program between assad and the rebels.
manage a tokenistic peace, have to install a muslim leaning government for both sides
burkhas and no alcohol for everyone
and we realize that it was so much better before
>>30452385
The US can stop funding and sending Green Berets over to train "moderate Islamic rebels"
Oh and stop creating civil wars in arab nations
>Muh dubbya emm deezs in Iraq
>Muh Arab spring gonna bring democracy
>>30452385
Actually nuke or improve the representation of Sunni Muslims in middle eastern governments and improve the infrastructure and economy of Middle Eastern countries.
One is cheaper.
>>30452385
If i had total control here is what I would do
>ban muslims from non-muslim countries
>establish different levels of muslims countries, so you have a fully westernized muslim country on one end of the spectrum, and then on the other end you have full sharia law country
>separate sunnis and shias
There is a school of thought that says something like there will be peace once every faction has its own land seperate from anyone they disagree with, this would be difficult to do, but if implemented in exceptionally problematic areas I think it would work
>>30459718
It's simple.
Don't take in refugees.
It's still politically easier than gassing everything.
But yeah, the primary solution to terrorism is just to not give a fuck.
It's a country of 300,000,000 people. It doesn't matter all that much if a couple dozen people get killed every now and then. As long as the screen is tight enough to prevent anything bigger than that, it's not worth more work.
>>30452565
There is a reason they lasted for Millennia, and love and tolerance is not that reason. I say we just nuke the entire Middle East, the Jews are the ones funding them anyway.
>>30453965
The Ottomans had one of the longest surviving empires in Modern History. No amount of time could tame the religion, and their weakness and civil strife towards the end of their empire (even before WW1) is perfect proof of this.
>>30456527
>Almost* as bad as the muslims
got some bad news for you anon...
>>30456505
Is Germany killing millions of Poles and Jews right now? NOPE.
Is Japan raping their way across China and Korea right now? NOPE.
All the die hards were killed. Know how I can tell? Because Japan and Germany have had their militaristic penises cut off. Thats how you kill an idea. If no one is willing to die/kill for it, then it isn't really a threat.
>>30456791
>but Jordan(they're cool).
Moderately. King Abdullah seems pretty cool and bro-tier, but he has the misfortune of ruling a kingdom that borders Israel, which brings all sorts of problems. If he is too friendly with the Jews, his own people hate him. If he follows the will of his people (especially fucking filthy Palestinians squating on his land) then he runs the risk of war with Israel and retaliation from the US. He has a precarious situation. Which is really sad, because he seems to want to Westernize his country.
>That wife of his.
Boner central.
>>30454314
>>30454338
Genocide works. No one wants to admit these days though. Thus does """"advanced"""" civilization die.
>>30452385
Kill the smugglers that help finance them. Invade countries that refuse to stop dealing with them.
>>30456892
>United Kingdom of the British Caliphate
>>30456113
NATO bombing did jack shit though. They solved their own problems. Look at any of them, Southeast Asia, Ireland, most of Africa, Latin America etc. They all started getting their shit together once people stopped intervening.
>>30455963
The surviving men would have harems and a major population increase since one male can impregnate multiple females for a generation, then revert to normal.
>>30460684
>he thinks it's a coincidence that the Dayton Accords happened after Operation Deliberate Force
>he thinks it's a coincidence that Serbia pulled out of Kosovo after Operation Allied Force
Noninterventionism is one of the most destructive memes in history.
>>30460426
Except in Germany the Allies were seen as liberators since the Nazis were never very popular (there were like 12 assassination attempts on Hitler after all). Also Nazism wasn't nearly as entrenched in Germany as Islamism is in the Middle East. In Japan they were ordered by their Emperor to stand down.
In addition the U.S. genuinely rebuilt and helped them after the war which improved public opinion, but all we've done in the ME is fuck their shit up.
>>30460742
And what about the rest? The shithole countries only get their shit together when left alone. Afghanistan was perfectly stable before the Soviets stuck their dicks in it, and it's been a basket case ever since.
>>30453965
The Ottoman empire was on its deathbed long before WW1, the western powers even tried to prop it up as a counterbalance to Russian expansion.
>>30453670
Destroying the ottomans is what reduced the Muslims into terrorism and insurgency against the west rather than straight up war and conquest they did while the empire still existed. Islam is not religion of terrorism its religion on war, only reason they use terrorism is that they aren't powerful enough for all out war right now.
>>30460889
Terrorism against the West wasn't really a thing until the later 20th century until the PLO started their shenanigans, and the PLO was a secular organization.
The Middle East between WW2 and the Arab Spring was mostly governed by secular nationalist dictators, Islamic terrorists really rose up in the aftermath of the Iranian revolution and Soviet Afghan war. It was a problem that was partially fueled by the U.S. supporting the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan.
Ignore them.
Leave Arabia to the Arabs and leave Persia to the Persians.
Let the Arabs and the Persians murder each other to win the favor of their bloodthirsty Prophet.
Let the Sunni and the Shia argue theology via violence.
It is no concern of ours.
>>30460889
Horseshit. What we call terrorism is their normal modus operandi, and has been for their entire history.
>>30459718
How is that not against the principles of the first amendment? At least >>30459817's policy of just not accepting "refugees" wouldn't involve denying people entry on the basis of religion.
>>30461103
>haj always used terrorism instead of outright war
I think Byzantium would disagree if it still existed you fucking tripcancer
>>30460684
>They all started getting their shit together once people stopped intervening.
Now I don't disagree with you there, but we all know Serbia would start removing kebab at dawn tomorrow if they knew they could get away with it. They fear reprisal from NATO. So I wouldn't say the ethnic problem there is solved. More like postponed.
>>30460744
>In addition the U.S. genuinely rebuilt and helped them after the war which improved public opinion, but all we've done in the ME is fuck their shit up.
THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.
We give fucktons of economic, humanitarian, and military aid to almost every Muslim or Arab country. And we have since at least the fucking 1960's to piss off Moscow. The West has invested BILLIONS in propping up countries that couldn't even figure out how to drill for their own oil were it not for Western educations. You are an absolute fucktard. Goddamn son have you heard of how the Suez Canal? The fucking West Bank? Lebanon? Iraq? We even invest in countries we know are harboring terrorists, JUST so they won't harbor terrorists.
It sure is summer in here.
>>30452405
First post, best post
/thread
>>30453576
just nuke t*rkey again
>>30452385
>>30453419
Well if you subscribe to liberal ideology, you simply wave a white flag, convert, have shariah law, and let the Islamists have their way.
Wouldn't want to be racists, now would we?
>>30461394
>We even invest in countries we know are harboring terrorists, JUST so they won't harbor terrorists.
This. God knows how much money the West has pumped into Pakistan. We even gave them nukes and ~90% of the population thinks we're the bad guys. If it wasn't for North Korea, they would win the award for "Nation-State Equivalent of the ShortBus."
>>30452513
But then they kind of win
/k/ really has a very poor understanding of strategy.
>>30452385
Just remember to shout "Allahu Akbar" if you are ever in a position to die by the hand of such an idiot.
I can only imagine the silence following on the Islamic livestream.
>>30452385
Kill them all.
>>30456505
Those were probablu bad examples.
Better ones would be all those polytheistic and old school religions and tribes that have been annihilated along with almost all of their ideas.
>>30453588
>>30456044
>forced western assimilation will make them lazy aggressive drug abusers
better that then them going around chopping peoples heads off and setting us up the bomb
>>30452405
Literally came here for this.
Trump should build his wall, nuke the a-rabs and let Israel have the rest
90% of our problems are solved
>>30452385
Kill all monotheists.
>>30461269
Fuck off, kid. Go read a fucking history book, jesus christ. No, Fuck islamic immigrants. We don't need them. Literally who the fuck cares? This is america, we don't need to cater to backwards-ass thirdworlders. And before you call me a racist, my uncle is pakistani, my family is redneck, and we are all tight. Funny story, his name is moe, but turns out that's just the americanization for Muhammed. Didn't learn that until quite recently, in fact.
We don't need these ME equiv of bible-thumping retards coming into our country to fuck it up.
>>30461394
>>30461572
Except the governments we prop up are at best shitty and corrupt and at worst brutal dictatorships. People hate the U.S. in those countries because they see American dollars going to the government that will use taxpayer money to buy hookers for politicians and kick in their door to black bag them if they complain about it. Not to mention there are the constant drone strikes, meddling in internal politics, and economic manipulation. Also invading Iraq and Afghanistan and now bombing Syria has really made things worse, since Muslims in other countries see that and decide that they need to do something to defend their fellow Muslims. Finally there's the whole issue of the way in which America has tried to rebuild the countries it invades. Trying to put a secular western democracy in a deeply conservative place like Afghanistan is not going to work. They had a fucking revolution in the 20s when their Queen appeared in public without a burka for fuck's sake. Imagine if a deeply Islamic country went around knocking over western governments and trying to implement fundamentalist shariah law in its place. That's basically what we're doing to them.
>>30463249
>Trying to put a secular western democracy in a deeply conservative place like Afghanistan is not going to work
This is quite a shortsighted view, you need to think in terms of multiple generations down the line from now.
You can't install a secular western democracy overnight, its going to require widespread education of the population and introduction of western standards of living. These things require time and most importantly, stability.
Think of it like South Korea, where America essentially installed seung man rhee as leader. He then set about creating his own little dictatorship, violently suppressing his political enemies and generally being a despot. This was not a good time to be a South Korean, but his rule provided a degree of stability and direction while the country went about modernising and developing industries. This continues until the population becomes educated enough to realise that they don't want to live under a dictatorship, at which point they begin to agitate for increased freedoms and political reform, beginning a slow process that should eventually end with a secular western democracy.
tl;dr Strong men in power provide stability by doing horrible things, stability very good in long run
>>30452385
well look at what they use to commit their crimes of terror. full auto assault rifles. the first steps should be removing those weapons of war from their possession. make that shit illegal there, and what would they be marching around with? empty hands you retards. its time for some common sense gun control in syria and iraq
>>30452385
>What can be done to defeat islamic terrorism?
White people need to make more babies, stop the white genocide, abolish bolshevics (known as socialists) cultural marxists (known as leftists) corrupt selout whores (known as liberals), and remind theirselves of the glorious achievement that the Western Civilisation is.
>>30452633
>Use counter insurgency tactics.
>Just go SS style. Burn villages, kill all population of a village if there is insurgency, terrorize them. If they are cruel, just be more cruel than them.
It didnt work on Poles, what makes you think it'll work on mudslimes.
Also, soviets tried that in afghanistan and it didnt work.
>>30463733
isis should be a fairly easy terror group to beat...they have a declared state with borders where they all live and have their fucked up system of society in place with infrastructure. unlike other terror groups, they are out in the open and give us targets to bomb/shoot at. the problem is obama and his administration are too inept to deal with them
unlike the jihadis in afghanistan who hid among the villages, isis has their own capital city and court buildings, prisons, training camps, schools, etc in raqqa and throughout syria. that shit should be ground level rubble right now but for some reason its not
>>30463783
mostly because obama in his retarded wisdom thinks isis toppling assad is somehow helpful to americas foreign policy
>>30463783
If a major power attempted to engage ISIS in a conventional war, they would shift to guerrilla war fairly quickly.
>>30454212
>this
dem white boys didn't burn Baghdad and Khwarazim to the ground.
>>30463797
but their entire goal is to create an islamic state. their name is literally islamic state in syria. so they cant fight a guerilla war forever, if their ideology is to establish a state. we should just destroy their stupid fucking towns with our bombers, and there is no good excuse for not doing so already, other than obama wants them to beat assad since he couldnt get congress to authorize his own military action against assad
>>30463842
>they cant fight a guerilla war forever
They don't need to, they only need to fight one for ten to fifteen years before they can shift back into conventional war when the west gets tired and leaves.
Leave them alone and let them kill each other. Do the bare minimum asked of us so nobody's feelings get hurt.
The vast majority of them only give a shit about their home area. Fuck up the dumbasses who try to enter other countries to spread their shittery.
>>30452385
Teach people in the middle east to read
>>30463142
Why would Israel want the irradiated desert that doesn't have oil, or has irradiated oil?? Why was Israel left out of the nuking process? Where is this magical location of "the a-rabs" as you so eloquently put it? Why is the nuclear option, which is full-retard in any other circumstance, suddenly ok here? Why is total war followed by oppression and elimination of all local culture not an option? Are you ever going to attempt to not be one of the shitty trips? How long did it take for your parents to disown you?
So many questions.
>>30452565
>Embargoing people to death/defeat.
Kek.
>>30456448
>American Colonialism
That'll work great, I'm sure.
As is, pretty sure we're just going to stick to economic control and cultural contamination. Not political control.
>>30456008
>You don't see Japanese thinking they're better than Asia, do you?
They fucking hate the Chinese and Koreans, and the only reason they tolerate America in the face of those nukings is because we felt bad and stayed, so China decided it'd be best not to rape them until we leave.
>>30454189
>Keep dropping supplies in when they attack these people for them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_refugee_crisis#Militarization_of_refugee_camps
>>30464355
knife hand them to death
>>30463797
usa doesn't want to topple assad but the have all the assholes of the middle east locked in a war against each other. also this:
>>30463785
>>30464332
Nice way to manipulate my quote fucktard. Japan can THINK whatever they fuck they want. So long as Nanking isn't burning and women in Seoul aren't being forced into rape houses.
And I think you're underestimating how cucked the Japanese are right now. Just because they don't want American troops in their country doesn't mean they want nuclear arms or an offensive capability again.
>>30461269
They aren't citizens until well after we let them immigrate.
>>30459803
The problem is that land is valuable in the ME because of oil $$$$. If it weren't for that, they could long since have re-drawn their borders around societal and tribal lines. Because of the oil, though, no one is willing to let the "other" mudslimes leave and take their land with them. Better to hang on to their oil land and just work on oppressing and exterminating them.
>>30463575
This. A benevolent dictatorship has the most power to do good and get shit done of any form of government. The problem is finding benevolent dictators.
>>30463842
>>30463797
A caliphate requires the caliph to hold land. If they went in, curbstomped ISIS where it's acting like a state and took the "state" away, the caliph loses his authority and ISIS just goes back to being a hodge-podge of terrorists, which is probably better than a steadily organizing group of terrorists.
>>30463718
There are 3 or more generations that have been raised to loath themselves.
>>30462650
Corpses are incapable of fighting. In any conflict, if one side is incapable of fighting and the other isn't, the violent side wins.
Therefore, turning the enemy into corpses means your side wins.
>kill all muslims = no more muslim terrorism
>>30452385
Stop financing them. Find out who is financing them and how. Contain them in Syria and Iraq and systematically hunt them down, gassing their major strongholds or let russians drop FOAB on their asses. Torture the prisoners and threaten to force all muslims into modernize islam or else. Have trump or some other asshole with a pass say that If all muslims were terrorists, THEY would all be dead by now.
>>30452385
Acceptance in our country
Don't fuck up their countries
Control preachers of both sides
>>30452385
Staying out of Islamic countries
>>30454228
So the "golden age" is basically the beta uprising? Muslims who can't do any useful shit take over and fuck the world over figuratively and literally.
>>30453576
Good thing we got enough for em.
