What caliber and grain do you prefer for a home defense round?
>>30448815
>this bitch opening up product before paying for it
fuck I'm triggesd
>>30448815
Clean your fucking nails dude that's disgusting.
>>30448815
20mm
>>30448846
I do this occasionally on 7.62x51 to see if the headstamp has a NATO cross on it.
>>30448846
you were sheltered as a kid werent you
>>30448875
that was my gf holding the round lol her nails were painted
>>30448815
5.56
55gr. Ball.
>>30448815
9x18mm Makarov
>>30448815
12-gauge, because although my Mossberg 500 is fun, I consider it sacrificial and I can afford for the police to lose it.
>>30448929
It just bothers me, you know what is in there, unless you're going to steal shit like a nigger why?
20mm HE
129gr +P .38SPL hydra shok, 129gr Golden Sabre +P 9mm, or 165gr Ranger SXT .40 S&W. Same as what I carry.
>>30448846
>mfw I do it all the time with shotshells to check the brass and color of hull
autism is a hell of a drug
>>30448815
If I'm in the garage then I'm grabbing my ar loaded with 62rg otm
If I'm in my bedroom then I would be the 30-30 winchester deer loads 150gr soft tip
Anywhere else it would be my walther pps 9mm hp gold dot (I forget the weight)
>>30449029
Is there an advantage to one grain over another? Im running a 125gr .357 mag hollow point
>>30449050
>deer rifle as a home defense gun
>>30448987
Youve never inspected the brass before you buy? Its not like its illegal, and im not a nigger trying to steal anything. These are 50 cal BMGs in the OP pic which I had never really seen in real life so I opened it to take a look. Not a big deal
>>30448815
.30 carbine FMJ.
Feeds like a dream, got 15 rounds of go fuck yourself. And while it is true that I will shoot through my target, my wall, and all the other walls, and probably my car, it will get the guy dead. Also my house is empty and my Waifu is eternal, I fear for nothing.
>>30448815
500 S&W magnum
650gr lead garbage cans
>>30449215
>my Waifu is eternal
almost spit my drink all over my monitor
>>30449093
dump that 125gr. Most factory 125gr 357 mag jhp are pretty anemic and those that are loaded to the limit do not hold up well at the velocity. Underwood loads a 158gr xtp nice and toasty. I suspect they are using ~19gr of lilgun.
>>30449215
.30 carbine is like a hot loaded .357, it won't keep much energy if it exits the guy
>>30449321
I've shot a deer and thought I missed because I saw the impact on a tree 25 meters past the deer at what appeared to be 'full speed ahead captain'. Then the deer crumpled.
>>30448973
This, god help intruders when a reliable semi auto 556 under $300 hits market
>>30449373
just read the FMJ bit. Yeah, that'll mess some property up. also stop fucking hunting g deer with FMJ .30. Niggers might deserve to die slow from exsanguination but the deer never did no one harm.
>>30449237
>garbage cans
oh my!
>>30449410
Shit, can you imagine? I'd buy two just to have an extra. We're so close with ARs but I don't think that'll be the gun to do it.
12-ga 00 Buck, or 20-ga #3 Buckshot
>>30449498
AR's get the advantage of ubiquity in parts and sheer number made to drive down cost but yes it will likely be some hi point style brick shaped pipe that breaks the price barrier through sheer retarded simplicity....... and I would have at least 2
>>30449306
Really? should i look into something heavier?
the sales guy sold me up the river on these
77gr otm
>>30449651
A lot of it is personal preference. im sure any 125gr 357 load is more than capable of taking down a dindu. But I see many 158gr loads going just as fast or faster than 125gr loads. The load I keep in my 357's is a 164gr coated cast bullet going 1550fps from a 6" revolver and 2,000fps from a 16" carbine.
12ga 3 inch Hornady critical defense in my 870.
>>30448846
dude niggers are everywhere. you gotta protect yourself. know what you're buying.
picture unrelated to post content.
>>30448815
208grn fmj 8x56R
>>30448846
I open up ammo boxes on the regular. Had to see what .17WSM looked like in real life today.
Wasn't disappointed
I open cartons of eggs before I buy them. Always good to check.
>>30449428
It's all about shot placement.
[spoiler]That was with a hollowpoint by the way, soft points don't feed at all worth a shit into a M1 Carbine.[/spoiler]
I've never had a problem, but tend to not shoot unless I'm really fucking close with a really clear shot.
Just 55 grain xm193 and 147 grain gold dots
If I'm in a real pickle 196g 8mm out of my 29 inch barrel
>>30448815
200gr 8mm mauser fired out of K98k
>>30450185
>>30448815
Fed premium #4 buck, 12 gauge 2 3/4"
165gr Hornady Crit. Defense out of my glawk brand glawk.
>>30449746
This is the right answer.
10mm 200 gr. If I can't get to the 12. 00 buck if I get to the 12. 7.62x39 HP if it's a lynch mob.
Some usual 9x19, 9x17?
Maybe S&W .40, Colt .45(11.43xforgot), .357 mag
OF COURSE .22 lr
.308 110 gr V-MAX out of my Ruger Scout.
I only own one gun so it's all I got for home defence.
>>30451081
Best post.
.22 short, cause shot placement, if I hit someone in the eye 4-5 times, I may get to the brain
>>30448815
1oz 12ga slug 3" magnum
55gr. 22lr CPRN
25gr. 5.7x28 HP
my go to is a .22LR pistol
they key hole at 10 feet
:)
148gr 9mm at standard pressure.
20mm
>>30448815
>>30448815
The only rational answer is a 4 bore.
>>30448815
Well, my home defense pistol is a 9mm. I choose my own handloads: a 124gr XTP loaded up to about 1250 fps. It's a smoking hot round. Zero pressure signs and is 100% reliable, so I am very happy with it.
>>30449237
>shoot intruder
>breaks your arm in the process
>>30450032
You should see what 17wsm does to melons.
You really won't be disappointed.
What if these cheeky chavs break into your house? Would you be able to defend yourself, anon?
>>30452356
Yes we all watch forgotten weapons too
>>30448815
For shogun I prefer to have a mix in the tube. Bird, buck, buck & ball, and finally slug.
I'd probably go straight to the AK though, usually have a bunch of HP or SP loaded and ready.
45acp, 9mm, and wife's side of bed is 38special. I also keep a 50beo behind the headboard for those special encounters.
12 gauge pump:
First shell is birdshot for "Well, hello there."
Second shell is buckshot for "You're really not to bright, eh."
Third shell is a slug for "OMG, it's a fucking Terminator."
>>30452462
Uh, the first shit would probably kill them if they're in the room with you. You're just losing lethality reliability and penetration, and not gaining anything in return
>>30452477
A buckshot in close range would definetly fuck you up. If not, severily disable you.
>body armour slams against your chest and the whole kinetic force goes right to your ribs
>flesh is self explainatory on what happens
>>30452356
2 bore is better
120mm MPHE
I like to stop home invasions before the invaders cross the border.
>>30452508
155mm M107 HE.
I like to make sure they don't cross the border in the first place.
>>30448815
135g 9mm +P Critical Duty from a Sig 320c or whatever happens to be in my AR at the time.
180gr 10mm auto
>>30452521
Well yes, that was the point. The problem with 155 is that it's much harder to get it to hit a single guy. Time fuzed, Direct-fire 120mm HE works better.
>>30449237
>fire shot
>kill intruder
>kill next door neighbor
>kill the hearing of everyone in the house
>>30448815
Dubz for boolit in butt
>>30449853
>blowing big loads into niggers
>>30452356
>>30448846
>not checking your eggs
>not checking the seal on your sour cream
>not checking the lid on your orange juice
>not checking your munitions
Why wouldn't you if you're going to pay for it?
Do you like getting fucked over at the store?
>>30448815
My bedside gun is a 1911 loaded 10+1 with 230 great Gold Dots.
My carry gun is loaded with 124gr HST
I usually have my AR with a loaded mag and empty chamber handy too.
>>30448846
I check to see if products are sealed or if unsealed products are all there all the time.
That said, I see assholes who open up sealed ammo boxes at walmart and just leave everything scattered every where all the time (shotshells, since walmart doesn't lock those up for some reason)
>>30448815
.50bmg
>>30448846
Most places that sell ammo don't accept refunds on it, so unless you like being fucked up the ass on things you had better check it out
>>30448881
>20mm
>Not going straight to 16"/50 caliber
Do you even defend bro?
>>30448881
This fucker knows what's up
122gr HP in 7.62x39
>>30448846
im a bootlicking wimp and even i do this
lol
158gr. Hornady XTP 3" .357
>>30456052
5.56 55 gr ball.
12 gauge 4BK
9x19 124 gr JHP
>>30448815
Bofors 57mm
>>30452477
How is he losing reliability by using birdshot with a pump?
>>30449029
>>30449093
>>30449306
You want 158grn speer gold dots
30-06 hornaday superformance.
because I am poor, but still have a gun , abiet a deer rifle
>>30457226
Probably thinks birdshit won't stop you from down the hall.
>>30452462
if u hit a 300lbs nigger with bird shot its just gonna piss him off even more as he charges u
>>30452632
might as well toss a granade
>>30458087
Add PCP maybe but otherwise nigga just got blasted wif a scattergat yo. I don't think he's got time to figure out it was only birdshot before the next round is readied.
I don't know about you rich fucks but the longest clear shot in my house is like 10 yards tops.
What weight would yall recommend for a .357 mag HD round?
Also, what brand?
>Speer Gold Dot
>Hornady
>Federal
300gr .50AE
>>30448846
The ONLY time I have ever not checked unsealed/taped ammo was a box of 7.5 swiss, and waited until I got innawoods to find that three rounds were missing
>>30458389
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/968681/barnes-vor-tx-ammunition-357-magnum-140-grain-xpb-hollow-point-lead-free-box-of-20
>>30448815
I like to keep a few bandoliers of 25 mil high ex handy myself
>>30448846
What's wrong with that?
>>30452632
CSB
>Be innahome
>Wife and kids are spending night at grandparent's house, I'm at home because gotta work the next day
>Alarm panel in bedroom starts flashing showing panel break in garage, grab first gun available, hit alarm call button
Lol Winchester 1895 in 45-70
>Guy trying to pry open tool chest
>Aim rifle, hit overhead light
>Guy turns
>I fire
>I miss
>Guy goes to the ground begs not to get shot
>Can barely hear
>Cops arrive, much paperwork etc etc etc
Next morning
>Inspect damage
>Hole in sheetrock, hole in exterior of house, brick cracked on exterior of vacant house next door, round still wedged in it
If it'd been wood on frame, or cinder block, lololol
>>30448815
.458 SOCOM
>>30452504
AA bore, son.
>>30458155
I know that pic. Was in the 2002 FBI ballistics handbook. 13 year old kid got splattered by a guy using #8 steel shot at 5 yards.
>>30448875
you know that carbon buildup in a rifle is another form of dry lubricant...like graphite...just sayin'
>>30459489
>grab first gun available
why would that ever be the first gun available
>missing with a rifle at relatively close range
kek
was it a dindu?
>>30459828
I had been out at the range and hadn't put everything away yet. Gun safe was in the basement and my pistol was still disassembled on my desk.
Missed, yeah, heart was pumping a bit. No, wasn't a melanin-enhanced individual, was one of our local tweakers (guy lives about half a mile from me, known to the cops for trying shit like this.)
>>30459561
I keep on telling people that shotguns are horrible things at close range, no matter what you put into them. But nobody wants to hear it.
>>30448881
>>30455367
>>30459937
I've seen what a 12 gauge slug does to a deer's center mass at five feet. I do not envy the guy cleaning up what's left of an attempted home invasion.
>>30448815
9mm 147GR Golden Saber (Bonded +P)
17+1
and
7.62x39 Tula Soft Point
30+0
I live in the woods so I get to go all Red Dawn on any attackers
12 gauge, 00 buckshot. I'll most likely be aiming down a flight of stairs so I'm not too concerned about penetration.
>>30452398
meh, the 500 really isn't THAT bad. Yes it has a lot of recoil but it isn't unmanageable. I put 40 rounds through it today, a mix between 350, 460, 650 and 715gr bullets.
>>30452632
meh, most bullets pretty much stop once they hit a brick or concrete. That expanded bullet went through about 42" of water and ended up about 12" deep in the berm.
Cci stinger, 22lr 32gr lead plated hp out of 6" bbl heritage rr
>>30448815
shotgunner here
good ole' 2 3/4" 12ga 00 buck
>>30448875
>dude
>>30448881
>not using 45mm and praying to Colt Koch
>>30451016
coverin all the bases
>>30460573
>715gr
>>30448846
It use to trigger me, then I realized that it's better to make sure the ammo checks out before actually buying it. It's kinda like buying a used car. Or a car for that matter.
>>30448815
12.7mm 650 grain, don't forget the ear pro.
Can anyone I.D this round for me?
>>30462400
What does it say on the bottom?
12G 1oz slugs
>>30462475
50 bmg maybe
>>30462497
Any definitive way to find out?
>>30462400
>>30462475
That's a Tel Aviv, Israel made .50 BMG round.
>>30448815
I use a .22, it's quiet and deadly at close range. Means minimal police involvement as can just dump the "assailant" in a lake.
>>30448815
8mm