> Guns are used to kill
>>30436728
Anything that comes out of their mouths.
>>30436728
They are used to kill tho.
It would be retarded to say the only purpose for guns is killing. Even if that was true, so what?
>>30436760
It's used to fire a projectile in a linear vector. That's literally it's purpose
>>30436728
>high capacity 30 bullet magazine clip.
>>30436760
Tyrannical government deterrent.
>>30436728
>Guns are used to kill
This is true, when loaded with normal ammo a gun is a weapon designed to kill an assailant.
I am not sure how this is an argument though? Since when does a tool's possible use mean that it is inherently evil/dangerous? Cars are also lethal weapons, as are knifes, bows, sharp sticks, fertalisers, etc. Yet we don't see much screaming about those.
>>30436760
>purpose is killing
That's just it though, shooting targets is practicing for killing. It all revolves around killing, just not nessasarily humans. You guys are just as retarded for not acknowledging why we have these things.
>Guns
>>30436842
>Cars are also lethal weapons
>Yet we don't see much screaming about those.
When will this meme die? The same assholes who want to ban guns want to ban cars that are actually driven by the person that's inside of it. Banning cars seems like a crazy, batshit insane move by most of us here, but then again, we all feel that it'd be batshit insane to ban guns, too.
>>30436728
Sometimes people need killing. Its the fastest way to make them stop whatever they are doing.
>AK47 assault weapon bullets fly faster than normal bullets
>>30436815
>It's used to fire a projectile in a linear vector.
The path of a bullet is parabolic, though.
>>30438901
>Its the fastest way to make them stop whatever they are doing.
arty is faster and kills more people at once.
Guns are better for individuals, or better yet, an individual who needs killing amongst a group that does not.
>>30436728
>It's 2016
>>30439030
You're thinking from the side, not top down, senpai.
>>30436815
you're a fucking spergy retard
>>30439145
Regardless of what angle you observe it from, it does not travel merely in a two dimensional plane such that the projectile's motion can be described as linear.
>>30436728
retarded shit rightist say
>everything
>>30436728
>Your AR-15 can't stop a tank, turn in your guns.
>>30436728
>I'm anti-facist, stop saying things that I don't like or else I'll fucking get people to dox you and your whole fucking family.
>>30439192
A drone can wipe out your whole town you think your ruger 10/22 can stop that? LMAO i bet you carry a gun because you're afraid of everyone
>>30436728
>>30439181
>triggered
>>30439135
>I never asked what year it was, but thanks
>>30436728
>guns are used to kill
"Guns don't kill people. It's impossibleto be killed by a gun. We are all invincible to bullets and it's a miracle."
>>30439176
Lines exist in three dimensions yknow
>>30439471
I know what you are getting at. OP was referring to people who claim there is no other use for a gun than to kill and that no one has every done anything with a gun but kill, ergo gun owners are all killers.
>>30439347
please tell me this isn't real
>>30439548
http://nypost.com/2016/04/28/i-want-all-the-perks-of-maternity-leave-without-having-any-kids/
This is now yryl thread
>>30439548
Prepare your exit bag and google
>>30439548
I mean, are you surprised?
Look at the land whale who wrote it. She's probably massively depressed that no one wants her to have their children because they're afraid that she'd eat them upon birth.
She looks like she has never missed a meal in her life, and we're talking a hobbit diet here.
>>30436728
>I fucking hate cops so much, they're all dirty fucking pigs
>Haha, why do you need a gun to protect yourself in your home, scared baby? Don't you know cops arrive to your house in less than 2 minutes?
>>30436728
>Omarr doesn't represent all Muslims you Islamaphobic fuck
>Omarr represents all gun owners, so we need to take away all the guns and ban them
>>30436728
>Communism Has never been tried.
As A Soviet born in the soviet Union, this triggers me more than anything
>>30439654
I've met people who fled communism during the cultural revolution in China, and they have nothing good to say about communism.
>>30439625
>Haha, why do you need a gun to protect yourself
These same noguns faggots were the ones who were throwing their fellow faggots under the bus in Orlando by using them as meat shields while they held the doors behind themselves because someone was coming at them with a gun.
At this point I've narrowed down the leftists of today to two things.
They either cannot be shaken from their naive idealism and anything that implies that something is disproving the narrative hurts their feelings because they've been taught that they can't lose.
The other option is that for all of their virtue signaling, they truly have no morality and the well being of people who need to defend themselves using guns means nothing to them. This includes women protecting themselves from abusive boyfriends and husbands and gays from gay bashers.
>>30439672
Neither DO I, but its down right retarded to say the Soviet Union wasn't communism.
>>30436728
>This whole fucking video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtA21eiSmT8
>Here, I have physical letters of Muslims threatening to-
>Yeah, but you're racist
>*entire audience applauses*
>I have the le-
>Maybe they wouldn't threaten you if you weren't a racist
>*louder applause from audience*
>The fucking program is called "Free Speech"
>>30439672
However, I have met their grandkids, and they seem to just love China, will shill it like no other, and will flip a shit if you criticize it, despite only going there for vacation maybe every so often
>>30439685
Liberals only like free speech when they are free to limit the speech of anyone that doesn't free speech exactly how they do.
>>30436728
>My emotions are more important than your rights
>>30439683
I wasn't implying you would, I've met lots of Soviet expats as well. I just was saying I find it funny that no one who dealt with communism actually likes it.
>>30436728
>When the revolution comes, you'll be going in a re-education camp, bitch.
>Vague empirical statistics
>You only like to look at statistics
>>30439751
>I just was saying I find it funny that no one who dealt with communism actually likes it.
Except when your country's economy has to go to shock therapy. Then its nostalgia, Nostalgia everywhere
>>30439764
>When the revolution comes, you'll be going in a re-education camp, bitch.
Someone said this to you? What the fuck.
Also, how do they intend to revolution without guns?
>>30439798
These people believe they'll be at the top with the elite when they'll actually be digging coal mines in our former national parks and die of black lung.
>Also, how do they intend to revolution without guns?
I've been wondering how they'll do it too.
>>30439683
Actually it's 100% accurate. Was the USSR a stateless classless society that didn't use money? No? Then it wasn't communist.
>>30439831
this man speaks the truth
>guns can't be kept out of the hands of criminals or wanna-be criminals, so the obvious solution is to ban them from non-criminals.
>guns are evil and kill thoudands of children every year!
Most of those "children" are teenage gang bangers
>that's a lie!
Okay fine here's an FBI data quote with sources
>REEEEEEE WHY ARE YOU TRIGGERING ME WITH YOUR LIES?!?! OMG YOU NEED TO KILL YOURSELF
My. Face. Every. Fucking. Time.
>>30439831
>stateless
>classless
>no money
I think you have marxism in mind, rather than communism.
>>30436728
>If we take away the guns, no one will have guns anymore, EVEN THE BAD GUYS!
>>30439892
>leninism=socialism=communism
Fucking USSR-boos.
>>30439877
Marx is really the inventor of communism as a system though. Before him there were socialists proposing things like economic equality, but he is the one who first defined communism and fleshed out its defining characteristics.
The USSR was a socialist state, but it adhered to a specific brand of socialism based around a centrally planned economy and authoritarian government. By contrast Yugoslavia implemented market socialism, where they had a free market where worker run co-operatives would compete with each other. Imo this was a much better system since they had similar standards of living to the West until there was an embargo of Yugoslav goods in the 70s and subsequent IMF shenanigans.
>>30439513
>to people who claim there is no other use for a gun than to kill
But a guns purpose is to kill. Yes, people use them for shooting competitions, and putting holes in paper, but that is not what they were designed for.
>>30436728
>You better do whatever Muslims tell you to do, or else they'll blow you and your family up!
>>30439490
Linearity doesn't only imply a line, it has to be a straight line somehow.
>>30439711
Maybe you should stop being a fascist? That might help.
>>30439873
>mfw I was told in a personal debate I wasn't allowed to use the FBI statistics because I'm an anti-government anarchist all because I oppose gun control
>>30439928
Marx invented Marxism, communism is a concept, which Marxism attempted to mirror in the real world.
The USSR adhered to many different brands of vague marxist/socialist structures in it's time, as can be seen in the policy changes from a Lenin dominated Bolshevik party to a Stalin dominated one.
Communism has never been tried, because it is not a real world system. Don't bother replying to the people that even mention communism as though it is a system in and of itself. I would counter that Freedom has never been tried, even if Anarchism (the various systems within more directly in mind than the concept) has been implemented in some places.
>>30436728
>Guns are for people who are too weak protect themselves
>>30439562
>women and, to a lesser extent, men
Everything is fucked forever
>>30439971
Except communism is a real system with specifically defined features and traits, at least as far as Marx was concerned. That doesn't mean it's a realistic or practical system, but Marx wrote about it with the intention of seeing it actually put in place in the real world.
That being said, saying that it has never been tried is somewhat innacurate, since plenty of countries tried to implement communism. It would be more correct to say that it has never been successfully tried.
>>30439961
>it's being a fascist to point out that liberals are fascists and actively do everything in their power to shit down speech that they do not like
Sure thing, pal.
Perhaps for your next trick you will explain to us why hate speech and other 'problematic' speech that you faggots on reddit don't like should be made illegal, and that this will pass constitutional muster.
>>30436728
Leftists in the US are anti gun? What?
Over here, they're all pro gun. Are you talking about the moderate leftists? Like, socialdemocrats?
>>30439964
>you can't use facts! Feels are what is the most important, and using facts that clearly demonstrate that I am a retard completely talking out of my ass would hurt my feels
>>30439991
Well to be fair conservatives do have a tendency to label criticism as an attempt to crush free speech. But then again on the other hand there are some extreme cases on college campuses and stuff where they actually have tried to shut it down.
But the irony is that while those are legitimate cases of speech policing, there's a tendency to attack any criticism of conservative ideas as "policing speech" when it's really just criticism.
On top of that there's a clear divide in the left right now between liberals who actually stick to liberal principles like free speech and SJW types who are more concerned with social justice and have clearly lost sight of what they are supposed to be fighting for.
>>30439990
The way Marx defined communism was up to his own interpretation. Hence why it is called Marxism. There was also Leninism, Stalinism, etc as offshoots of Marx's interpretation.
No countries have implemented communism, it cannot be implemented because it is impossible to utilise such a simple idea in it's purest form. There is no meat with which to design a system, hence the need for people to interpret it.
>>30439991
Hate speech that leads to violence is illegal. That's why people can get in trouble for saying "People should kill niggers", then someone goes and does it. You don't need to specifically say "YOU need to go kill niggers", it can be very vague. And you will be in some pretty deep shit for it.
Also
>you faggots on reddit
nigger please.
>>30439998
What country are you in? Can I move there?
>tfw all your lefty friends are anti-gun
>tfw all your pro-gun friends are right wing
I just want a place where being a pro-gun leftist isn't like being a fucking unicorn.
>>30439971
>>30439990
Ofc it has been tried, but at some certain point, they all went wrong and anti-marxist.
Like Lenin, when his Bolsheviki took the power from the workers' councils and gave it to the communist party alone. Everyone after him made the same mistake, and in the end some lunatic dictator is mass executing people for no reason.
The extremest example being Pol Pot. There actually have been small, temporary projects that actually established real socialist structures - like the räterepublik in Munich during the 1920s. But they were all smashed by the fascists.
>>30436760
I dunno... i used one of my guns to roast a marshmallow once....does that count
>>30439998
American politics are basically reversed compared to the rest of the world. Leftists are progressives that are for shit like gay rights but in everything that actually matters they go full MUH FEELS such as gun rights, consumer rights, freedom of speech, self defense, etc. Right wing is the conservatives but they're really not much better.
>>30440010
When I see conservatives shitting on liberals regarding free speech, it's almost universally because the MSM gives such little air time or credence to the opposite side's point of view.
Like watching a gun control special that they specifically label as "balanced" but then they alter the tapes to make the pro-gun people look like stammering retards, or offer 1 minute of pro-gun airtime for every 10 minutes of anti-gun airtime.
The particularly scary thing about liberalism is that they have been getting more and more extreme (particularly with the Millennial generation) and less and less tolerant of those who disagree with them. I am unaffiliated, but I have to tell you that I find the conservatives significantly less scary than I find the liberals, particularly the 'new age' tier ones that are blatant and unapologetic fascists.
>>30440022
See
>>30440011
Communism cannot ever be tried. The same way that pure "religion" can never be tried, as the concept because tainted by the required systems projected onto it by it's proponents.
>>30440019
Europe. Except for the more moderate and reformist leftist movements, most leftist movements are pro gun. And some are armed, like in Greece, Italy, Turkey and Germany.
>>30440019
I have guns. I'm a leftist.
>>30440022
This. The thing is that when criticizing socialist regimes so many people fail miserably to acknowledge just how far these countries strayed from their supposed principles. I mean imagine if the US became a fascist dictatorship and went into the toilet, then twenty years after some asshole pointed to it and said "Look how shitty western democracy is" when by that point it was pretty clear that the U.S. was nothing like a western democracy.
I mean for fuck's sake the Soviet Union outlawed the creation of trade unions in the 80s. The SOVIET union outlawed the formation of actual SOVIETS.
>>30440016
>illegal
It isn't the hate speech of that sentence that makes it specifically illegal, buddy. It is that part where you specifically incited violence and convinced, say, an angry mob to start going around and shooting all of the niggers around them.
It would be a hate crime because your speech incited violence against a specific group of individual reasons based upon their race. But that is an entirely separate crime.
>>30440049
I don't understand how you can even be a leftist when you're anti gun.
>>30440056
This. America is upside down this way. The doublethink among American liberals is real. Pic related, made by an American libsoc.
>>30440049
Good, let's go to the range and talk about how international plutocrats and multinational corporations are the world's greatest threat to freedom.
>>30440080
>Washington
>Hundreds mistake a bike tire for a gunshot
Not even surprised desu senpai.
All of the stuff that goes on Comedy Central shows whenever they talk about guns or do a video segment about a gun show or gun owners.
>>30440080
(((Colen)))
>>30440080
>thought a bicycle tire was a gun
What the actual fuck
>>30440056
Because modern leftism in its conventional form is all about maximum government authority in exchange for maximum free gimmedats from the same government.
Eventually that government becomes accustomed to the incredible amounts of power that it has been given, and becomes afraid of losing it. So that government and the political forces behind it start gun control programs and start convincing their drones to be in favor of gun control legislation so that it will pass quietly and without armed opposition.
It's easier than ever when you consider that the media and public schools tend to be ran by leftists in general who then will parrot and instill these beliefs in children who will grow up with deeply instilled feelings on a subject that they actually know very little about. Subversive propaganda is quite powerful in the United States.
>>30440098
That channel went to shit hard.
>>30440113
The last time the Daily Show made me laugh hard was when WWE/WWF opened a restaurant in New York.
But I want to know exactly when it went to shit. I'm guessing when they cancelled Colin Quinn's show.
>>30440104
Tbh the whole "gubmint wants gun control so they can take our freedom" thing is a meme. Most people (including politicians) are pushing for gun control because they genuinely believe that it will help curb gun violence, that's it. They're wrong of course, but they certainly aren't a bunch of evil conspiring ultra-authoritarians.
Besides, the vast amount of guns in the U.S. still hasn't stopped America from getting cucked by their corporate overlords.
>>30440104
The gimmedats is how they generate their political legitimacy in a democratic system.
Put a voting majority on welfare, working for government, or in affirmative action jobs, and then you can do whatever you want.
This is why government spending only ever goes upwards
Democracy inevitably turns into kleptocracy, which is why throughout history people have spoken about the evils of democracy.
>>30439562
I couldn't make it all the way through the article. Please tell me she doesn't expect employers to pay for this "meternity"
>>30440104
Except the gibsmedats aren't really an expansion of government authority so much as an expansion of government responsibility.
>>30440132
When they stopped doing comedy shows and started doing libtard speeches disguesed as comedy.
>>30440150
They are really an expansion on government authority, though. Healthcare, for instance. They now have control and access to your medical records. Their employees now get to make decisions on what you are worth and what kind of medical treatments you deserve and qualify for, and in what time frame.
Government responsibility goes up, but in order to continually provide more gimmedats, they are usually given some new form of authority in order to provide that service. Law enforcement is a good example, and look at how that is currently growing. A vital service that has essentially been allow to grow unchecked into a position where it can no-knock warrant raid your home and kill you without ever identifying themselves. Or pull you over without cause (ie: illegally) and then wait around until they find some shit on you that allows them to legitimize their detaining you when it was originally without cause.
So many rights have been lost as a result of giving the government more power to provide more gimmedat services, which eventually expand to require even more to be given up to the government.
>>30439928
>this hilarious post
>>30440205
Except you are implying that social welfare services like healthcare are somehow leading to expansions of police powers and erosions of civil liberties. The social welfare system in the U.S. is basically third world tier compared to the rest of the developed world, and yet they aren't having nearly the same problems with militarized police or erosion of civil liberties in Canada or Norway or Germany that they are having in America.
Not to mention that private healthcare (just as an example) gives control over what care you have access to to corporate managers who have a vested interest in making sure you pay as much as possible and get as little as possible.
The thing lolbertarians seem to be incapable of understanding is that sometime governments can act to preserve freedom, and sometimes non-government actors can be the country's greatest threat to freedom.
>>30440259
You see, that's amusing. My family is Canadian, I am first generation born American. They have all the free healthcare in the world, but they come to our "third world tier" country to benefit from immediate medical treatment for anything more serious than, say, a broken finger. It gets paid for by the Canadians, but they get taken care of quickly, instead of being like our stubborn grandfather in Alberta who had to wait THREE MONTHS for a fucking MRI, and would have died if he had waited that long because we flew him to the US, he had an MRI same day, and then received the life saving surgery he needed in like 2 weeks. He would have died waiting for that MRI in Canada.
And that is not an implication that I made, that is something you chose to infer. Police powers have increased and have dramatically infringed on and eroded our social liberties, and barely a peep was made by most people because all they give a shit about is getting free weed and healthcare.
Our government chooses to give a bunch of gimmedats while getting rid of what it doesn't like all at the same time. It gives with one hand, and takes with the other all at the same time. Which is genius. You distract them so they don't realize that you were lubing up their anus the entire time while preparing to plunge deep.
Some of us have very good reasons to distrust the government. And whenever the government tells us that it wants or needs something from us, it is an excellent idea to raise and eye brow and ask what it is going to cost us. Or when the government tells us that we don't need "assault weapons" to defend ourselves with. What we choose to own and keep for our lawful purposes is our fucking business, not yours.
What socialists seem to be incapable of understanding is that sometimes governments can act to erode or eradicate freedom, and sometimes non-government actors can be the country's greatest ally to freedom.
>>30440319
Well said anon
>>30440052
>I mean for fuck's sake the Soviet Union outlawed the creation of trade unions in the 80s. The SOVIET union outlawed the formation of actual SOVIETS.
a trade union isn't a council
>>30440066
>made by an American libsoc
is the artist anti gun or pro gun? confused...
>>30440134
>still hasn't stopped America from getting cucked by their corporate overlords
>their corporate overlords
>their
spotted the eurofag
>>30440359
Europoor who spent too much time masturbating to Bernie Sanders speeches and wondering why people who aren't Millennials think he's a raving lunatic without a fucking clue how the real world works.
I enjoy watching Europoors get poorer every year when they keep bringing in hordes of immigrants from countries with vastly different cultures, and then letting those new people dictate how things are going to go in their new country while the natives happily spread their asscheeks and let the immigrants plunge in as deeply and often as they would like.
So tolerant and progressive :^)
>>30440319
Sure private healthcare is fine if you can afford it, but many people can't, and if you can it's far more expensive than public healthcare. Also I seriously doubt that your grandfather would have died, since our healthcare system prioritized surgery based on the seriousness of the affliction in question, so if his condition was actually life threatening then he likely would have gotten the surgery he needed. We do have wait times though, but imo I'd rather wait than pay out the ass.
>barely a peep was made by most people because all they give a shit about is getting free weed and healthcare.
But all the people who are standing up to police are mostly liberals, people like BLM and such.
>What socialists seem to be incapable of understanding is that sometimes governments can act to erode or eradicate freedom, and sometimes non-government actors can be the country's greatest ally to freedom.
I'm perfectly capable of understanding that, but you have to acknowledge that the state can be both a protector and a threat to freedom, as can non-state actors such as corporations.
Also you seem to have an overly monolithic view of the government, not only is it a massive and complicated organ with various interests and lobbies intersect and often conflict, it is still subject to some extent to the will of the population. In addition, many of the calls for expansion of social welfare (and the implententation of gun control) are coming from the population at large, not the government itself.
Being suspicious of the government is fine, but that doesn't mean that government involvement is always bad. There's not reason why you can't have a strong social welfare system and still hold onto civil liberties.
>>30440379
Tbh it's funny Americans say "Europoors" when they literally have Eastern Europe and South America levels of development.
>>30440403
>using europe's development levels as an insult
kek what a retarded europoor
>>30440389
He would have died because he was waiting for that MRI. His tumor would have killed him during the wait. You get what you pay for. I'd rather keep my private healthcare and not be afraid that I'm going to die because I had to wait in line with everyone else in my country and had very little doctor/patient time because my doctor has 50 other people to see today before lunch.
There are plenty of conservatives that oppose police militarization. The difference is, they aren't whining about every black person who got shot by a cop while in the commission of a crime, and they aren't inventing narratives in order to get people riled up, riot, loot, and plunder all in the name of BLM. They aren't standing up to the police, they're waiting for pivotal moments so they have an excuse to riot on. Their useful idiot liberal allies are simply too afraid to speak up for fear of being (quite successfully) branded as racists. I enjoyed watching Furgeson burn all the while MSNBC/CNN kept going on about how it was peaceful, and only a handful of bad people were doing bad things, all the while cops and emergency services are getting shot at by BLM and the criminals are being shielded by the mob.
If a government chooses to listen to its people, it can preserve liberty. For gun control, the only time "the people" want more of it is after an incredibly publicized shooting. After shit calms down again, it instantly becomes less desirable. If the public really wanted gun control, then gun rights wouldn't be on a massive rise in the country, but gun rights continue to expand in a constitutional direction, much to the fury of liberals who wish to circumvent and regulate the 2nd amendment into non existence because they know that they cannot succeed in eliminating it the legal way via constitutional convention.
The problem with the strong social welfare system is that it requires us to give our government more money and hope that we can trust it to spend the money appropriately.
>>30440403
Huh, such looks developed where I'm sitting.
Maybe Europoors should stop listening to socialist memes about how lame and undeveloped the US is because the rest of the world depends on this "third world shit tier country" to lead them out of every crisis and to defend them from the "scary, evil Russians" that would be more than happy to take a fat shit on you all.
Must be nice having the US spend untold billions of dollars defending your freedom while you are incapable of using even 2% (minimum) of your GDP as required by NATO membership to defend yourselves. Must be nice being able to be fat welfare queens relying on the US to spend money on you (and give you more money on top of that) so that you can use the unspent money for more gibsmedats.
>>30439562
If you want to take leave of your job to make decisions in your future then you are more than welcome to. Expecting your job to be open when you return, is not something you should expect though.
>>30440443
>>30440379
Can anyone give me /k/ opinion on a 300 win mag I am not really that knowledgeable about it, but I will be inheriting it.
>>30440469
No one said that the US didn't have a problem with blacks and latinos. We definitely do.
But at least we're vocally arguing about how to deal with it and not immediately sucking on rapeugee dick and (like Sweden and Germany) deliberating deflating and not reporting rapeugee crime in order to make them appear less violent/criminal/problematic than they really are.
At least our people arguing against illegal immigration aren't essentially so ashamed of their positions that we have to pretend to vote for Democrats or Socialists while secretly voting for right wing parties so that our progressive friends don't exile us.
>>30440448
Private healthcare may be fine if you can afford it, but forgive me if I don't like the idea of a system where almost 1 in 5 people don't have coverage. That number has only been brought down by Medicaid expansions and Obamacare, and again, cases like your grandpa are exceedingly rare here, some people may fall through the cracks but that pales in comparison to the tens of millions of people who go without coverage in the U.S.
You are going after BLM when they are doing exactly what you claim to support. They are fighting against militarized, trigger happy police forces, and yet you dismiss legitimate concerns that you yourself clearly share as "just looking for an excuse to riot"? If you agree that police are out of control how can you so easily dismiss a group whose entire purpose is to address that problem? If you know cops are acting like assholes then don't you think there might be some legitimacy to what BLM is saying?
>For gun control, the only time "the people" want more of it is after an incredibly publicized shooting.
Not really, public opinion has consistently leaned in favour of stricter gun control for a while.
>The problem with the strong social welfare system is that it requires us to give our government more money and hope that we can trust it to spend the money appropriately.
As opposed to just trusting corporations not to fuck you over with outrageous costs and sub-par care designed to maximize profits? I think it's pretty obvious at this point from looking at the levels of development in Canada or Western Europe compared to the U.S. that strong social welfare systems are a good idea. The U.S. literally is on the same level of economic development as Poland.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI
>>30440474
shit i really am stupid 300 is the caliber. time to find out what rifle it is
>>30440458
>Huh, such looks developed where I'm sitting.
>W-we're developed guise!
>Just don't look at all the parts that are undeveloped!
>pay no attention to our South America tier crime rates, or Russian tier infrastructure, our laughable education system, highest healthcare costs in the developed world, or the fact that we literally have more prisoners per capita than North Korea
>>30439999
>>30440550
>But we got guz so murica
>>30440526
>1/5 people without coverage
You do understand that this figure included people who did not want or need coverage, such as younger people who had no interest in purchasing coverage because they are young and healthy, right?
If you were an American who paid attention to the shit with BLM, you would understand. Mike Brown got exactly what he deserved and all of the physical evidence collaborated Wilson's version of events. The tweaker who first went around saying that "he hands were up" was later discredited and proven that he wasn't in any position to be the "eye witness" that he claimed to be so he would get on tv. But that entire piece of fiction was pivotal for the BLM narrative, so they spent their time attacking a police officer who literally did nothing wrong, hoisting up Mike Brown as some martyr who dindunuffin.
That is why we don't take BLM seriously. Because they are a bunch of fucking liars and make shit up.
>gun control support has been around for a while
Canadian, don't believe the shit you hear. This is untrue. Polling by accurate, unbiased and reliable pollsters indicates that Americans care more about gun rights by a higher percentage than those who want them done away with. And states beside California, Massachusetts, Illinois, Hawaii, and New York (all hard core liberal bastions which are essentially one-party states) are the exception to broader and further expanded gun rights throughout our entire country.
>muh ebul corporations
I work for an evil fortune 500 corporation and make excellent money and have excellent health coverage, etc. But yeah, our evil corporations are exploiting me and should be destroyed, or something because corporations r ebul. Corporations making profits is a good thing. it means my investments (in general) are doing well, it means my company is doing well, and it means that tens of millions of Americans continue to be gainfully employed and do not need to be afraid of losing their jobs and benefits.
>>30440550
>South America tier crime rates
I'll give you that one, but it's not complete shithole all the way through, there's high crime rates in ghetto areas
>Russia tier infrastructure
I don't even know how to respond to that, what does that even mean?
>More prisoners per capita than North Korea
Except people here are given a trial, lawyer, etc, they get a fair fight. In North Korea, disagree with the government and get thrown in the Gulag
>>30440604
>I don't even know how to respond to that, what does that even mean?
Means our fucking infrastructure sucks.
>>30440550
>muh prison population
Yeah, that's what happens when you have a massive population that dwarfs any European country, and 12 percent of that population is niggers.
You know, the people who commit the most crime by race on a global scale.
And then we have a massive influx of latinos, who (surprise) commit a ton more crime!
It's almost like we import the most criminal populations because those same populations vote heavily for a single political party. Huh, go figure.
Our crime rates are far below Yuropoor rates if you don't like in an overpopulated, population dense city that is entirely comprised of niggers and spics. I hear your Yuropoors have a bit of trouble with Sand niggers and their kin lately, how's that treating you?
Also the US reports its crimes far more accurately than, say, the UK. UK only reports selectively and on convictions, the US reports all crimes. See why that might be different?
And the US never tries to hide factual criminal information and statistics in order to deflate their crime rates and pretend that rapeufees are not rapeugees (looking at you, Sweden and Germany)
But please, shill harder Yurofag. Maybe if your universities weren't sub tier to better American universities which we pay for, you would understand that different countries have different problems, and that your solution of throwing money at all problems you encounter that the US won't bail you out of is unsustainable and cannot last indefinitely.
>>30436728
>high Capacity clips
>retarded shit anti guns right wings say
>retarded shit anti guns left wings say
you guys realize that "left" is a non existing term in your country right?
democrats aren't and will never be left
bernie was the closest thing to "left" you ever had.
being antigun is NOT a leftie value, it's an authoritarian value and have nothing to do with right or left.
>>30440611
But we have some of the best roads and airlines in the world
>>30440622
>democrats aren't and never will be left
But they are exactly that, and they get lefter every single year. Bernie Sanders wasn't the end, he was the beginning. And the Millennial faggots who have no idea what it is like to earn money of their very own or put in a hard days work for said money are the group that will push the Democrats firmly and openly into a path towards Socialism.
Before now the Democrats had to pretend that this was never their end game. Now they can be open about it. They just call it "Progressivism" rather than Socialism.
And yes, they are incredibly authoritarian. Which is what you seem to get when you go too far to the left or to the right and have no level of tolerance for dissenting opinions.
>>30440633
Libertarianism=best ism
>>30440627
He's a retarded yuropoor, he has no idea what he's talking about.
Our horrible, terrible, undeveloped farmlands are awful and Africa tier. We should just create giant cities everywhere, and build farms on top of skyscrapers so we can all be developed city folk, amirite? Megacity 1 now.
>>30440589
>such as younger people who had no interest in purchasing coverage because they are young and healthy, right?
Well that number was specifically adults without coverage, but still, the number of Americans without coverage because they genuinely can't afford it is in the millions.
>BLM
You're focusing too much on Mike Brown and ferguson specifically and not the point of the movement. The whole idea behind it is that police are trigger happy and act in an authoritarian manner, especially towards black people. Mike Brown was just a specific case they used to rally people, but I agree, in that case he probably deserved it, however their main point is still valid.
As far as gun control goes even polls showing pro-gun sentiment outweighing anti-gun sentiment don't show much more than w 60/40 split at most, meaning that a significant portion of the population wants stricter gun control. I'm pretty pro gun and I disagree with this camp, but they still exist and are significant.
>corporations
Sounds to me like you are a member of a small, privileged class that doesn't have to deal with any of the downsides of capitalism. But tell that to the shrinking middle class, the people who have had to deal with stagnating wages, having the collective bargaining rights revoked, finding social mobility near impossible, or having their jobs shipped off to China so the company they worked for could make an extra buck.
>Corporations making profits is a good thing. it means my investments (in general) are doing well, it means my company is doing well, and it means that tens of millions of Americans continue to be gainfully employed and do not need to be afraid of losing their jobs and benefits.
Trickle down economics is a meme m8, even the IMF thinks so.
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/cat/longres.aspx?sk=42986.0
It might be good for you, but it isn't good for the average person.
>>30440627
Bridges, damns, and only in SOME places are our roads good. Yes, they aren't dirt roads, they are paved, but that's about the only good you can say about them.
>>30440652
It's more than just quality of the road, we have a dank-ass highway system and our roads are nice and clear, unlike some places in Europe, where road maps look like a jumbled mess
>>30440604
>Except people here are given a trial, lawyer, etc, they get a fair fight. In North Korea, disagree with the government and get thrown in the Gulag
And somehow you still have more prisoners per capita than they do. The U.S. prison system is broken, and no amount of /pol/ shilling "b-but it's the NIGGERS and SPICS fault!" will change that. If you ignore the poorest 40% of any country no shit their prison stats are going to improve.
I love how ever argument for America not being shit requires you to simply ignore all the parts that are shit.
You poor, poor idiots...
>>30440633
M8 the democrats are basically on the same level as Canada's conservatives, Bernie would be centre left here at most and he would be centrist in Europe. The democrats aren't left wing by world standards.
>>30440646
Yes, and some adults (starting at age, don't forget) don't have coverage and no don't choose to have coverage because when you're young and healthy, it doesn't really seem like something that you need.
Their general anti-police militarization message is fine. The problem is that they LIE and intentionally attempt to deceive the public/make shit up and use those lies as a platform on such a regular basis so as to make them entirely non-credible. The police are not even half as trigger happy as they complain about, and they use incidents such as Mike Brown as an excuse to go and riot and commit insane amounts of violence, and then whine when riot police and National Guard have to come in.
Sure, there is certainly a large portion of the population that wants gun control. They are still a minority. And many of them are simply sadly misinformed, as I am sure that you can agree. People who simply believe the MSM anti-gun narrative because they have no personal experience that demonstrates how false the narrative really is.
Small, privileged class? Yeah, it was rad working 2 jobs in college so I could afford to attend school with a mountain of student debt. It felt super awesome growing up as a white kid who went hungry because his family was poor as fuck and couldn't get foodstamps. And who couldn't get good financial aid because illegal immigrants apparently needed it more, and who had a family who could not afford to help him. Yeah, I feel incredibly privileged to have had to fight tooth and nail to get where I am while other people have it simply handed to them because they aren't white. That wasn't capitalism, where merit and talent is rewarded. It was muh progressive policies that say you need to hire certain skin colors, and give those people free college, etc
Don't give me that "privilege" meme. Privilege implies that I got it for free and without hard work. I sweated blood to climb up to where I am. I owe you and everyone else fucking nothing.
>>30440674
That's the point though, Bernie was only the start. We only have 2 parties here, bro. At least only 2 parties of any significance. Comparing our strange political system to Europe is a non-starter for a plethora of reasons. The only point here is that Bernie and Millennials are currently in the middle of changing the Democratic party.
Maybe they will never be as hardcore socialist as Europe. I sure as shit hope not. But they are certainly taking the necessary steps to evolve outward in that direction, and the incredibly liberal and socialist Millennial generation is going to enable that evolution in the coming decades when the older generations die off.
>>30440669
>we should disregard the impact that niggers and spics have on crime and lol at the US for its high prison population
>lol, we can trust when NK says they only have 'x' number of prisoners, they're credible
>lol, we can compare Yuropoors with an incredible permissive criminal justice system that doesn't ream criminals to a US justice system that does ream criminals
You're actually retarded. I guess you probably also believe that correlation implies causation too.
>>30436815
>real firearms are just raytrace weapons
TIL it's all just a big vidya game
>>30440680
If you did actually work up to where you are then you're a special case, because the U.S. consistently underperforms in social mobility when compared to the rest of the developed world. You are complaining about socialism but the irony in that is that in Europe you would have been able to achieve the same level of prosperity with a fraction of the effort. You are defending the system that made it so hard to get where you are. Also statistically speaking you are an outlier, the vast majority of the people born into poverty stay there, even if they are willing to work hard, and the vast majority of Americans living in prosperity were born that way.
>>30440694
>>we should disregard the impact that niggers and spics have on crime and lol at the US for its high prison population
No, but if you are going to be fair then you should also not include the bottom 40% of other countries when measuring just white American crime rates.
>>30440389
> Sure private healthcare is fine if you can afford it, but many people can't, and if you can it's far more expensive than public healthcare.
Have you ever done the math?
when they take 50% of you annual earnings you can't say it's necessarily cheap.
Americans have it much better paying a buck fifty or a bill, a month.
>>30440744
>Americans have it much better paying a buck fifty or a bill, a month.
Yeah, I wish my insurance was that cheap. 300 is what I pay.
>>30440747
Are you single? I'm by myself and pay that.
>>30440757
Have a qt 3.14, but not married. It's fucking ridiculous. Haven't been to the doctor in 3 years either.
>>30439738
>emotions
>legit argument
This has become an almost daily part of my life and I don't think I'll ever get away from it.
I hate to say this, but it's [insert current year] and those fuckers need to learn what qualifies
as the basis of a real fucking argument. Shit's annoying and they are stubborn as hell about it.
>>30439030
Only in a vacuum, numbnuts.
That said, a parabolic path can be used as an alright approximation for mortar-fire.
>>30440927
>only in a vacuum
Why do you think you zero your optic you fucking nignog?
>>30440689
>liberal and socialist
you realize your country is extremely liberal since practically it's creation right?
also wtf does socialism have agaisn't firearms?
look at fins and us french socialism =/= no guns
Lenin, orwell, marx
all the socialist figures where PRO arms.
i'm leftist and i'm /k/ as fuck and it's not leftist fault for the huge anti-gun movement in america
blame liberals and democrats all you want but leave us out of this.
>>30440646
>but still, the number of Americans without coverage because they genuinely can't afford it is in the millions.
A: The cost of insurance is a totally government controlled thing, if they didn't have all sorts of irrelevant shit insurance companies are forced to cover, plus dealing with the fraud from shitskins, it would be much lower.
How many of these "Americans without coverage" Are not americans, but illegals, foreigners, indians, and blacks?
>The whole idea behind it is that police are trigger happy and act in an authoritarian manner
Which is a totally false idea that has not a single element of truth
But thats been the norm of the whole civil rights movement for the last 100 years so, nothing new there.
>meaning that a significant portion of the population wants stricter gun control.
Liberals are about as radical on gun control as they will ever get, it doesn't truly matter to them, its just something they virtue signal over.
Whereas conservatives/republicans WILL get extremely radical over gun control.
Gun control is a good thing, in that liberal politicians have been shooting themselves in the foot over it for decades.
>any of the downsides of capitalism.
And then you list a buncha shit caused by progressives who would self-identify as COMMUNISTS if that wasn't a dirty word...
>>30440927
>Gravity only works in a vacuum
>>30440716
>the vast majority of the people born into poverty stay there
>even if they are willing to work hard
If they are intelligent and working hard, then they will not be poor for long.
Obviously for 80 iq blacks or mexicans it doesn't matter how hard they work.
The ONLY place where this hard working intelligent poor exists, is in rural or small town white areas, as these whites don't have the handouts and scholarships that others would get.
>and the vast majority of Americans living in prosperity were born that way.
Thats bullshit, most rich folk are first generation rich.
>>30440689
Bernie was the start of the death of the democratic party
Bernie was the demonstration of the huge ideological gap between liberal whites and the non-whites.
You seem to forget that bernie lost the popular primary vote massively, that will just get worse as white liberals become more irrelevant/become conservatives.
>>30436842
>I am not sure how this is an argument though? Since when does a tool's possible use mean that it is inherently evil/dangerous? Cars are also lethal weapons, as are knifes, bows, sharp sticks, fertalisers, etc. Yet we don't see much screaming about those.
Please, show me the car that's specifically designed to kill people?
Show me the fertilizer that's designed to be used as an explosive?
I sometimes wonder if the gun owners realize just how utterly unhinged they sound to any normal person, when you are effectively going around saying "I can make a [car / household tool / fluffy toy / etc] into a weapon." Normal, rational people do not look at a car and think "this is an object designed to kill people with".
A firearm, however, has one purpose: to propel a chunk of metal at high speed into a target. If you've got a sports target shooting pistol, it is designed very differently to a 1911, or a Glock, or any other handgun. Same goes for rifles. The plain simple fact is the firearms are weapons, designed to kill. You do not use an AK74 to put up shelves, a 1911 is not used to drill holes in an auto body repair...
the whole "cars are lethal weapons" argument only serves to make the people who are using that argument look like utterly unhinged gun nuts to the rest of the world.
>>30441451
>>If they are intelligent and working hard, then they will not be poor for long.
Ah, I love the naive idealism of 18-year-olds who have no life experience, who have lapped up the bullshit with total blind ignorance of reality.
>>30441479
Firearms are designed first & foremost for comfort & recreation
Killing is a secondary consideration.
Even in the military.
>>30436728
The true purpose of guns is to shoot paper.
Killing? Where would anyone get that kind of idea?
>>30440259
>Except you are implying that social welfare services like healthcare are somehow leading to expansions of police powers and erosions of civil liberties
American liberals have spoken openly about banning the sale of firearms (an enumerated right in our country's founding document, mind) to anyone deemed to be "mentally deficient." Given the push to define speech liberals don't like as "hate" and expressions of dislike against, say, gays and muslims as "phobias," it's a short jump to deeming conservatives as mentally deficient under these Through the Looking Glass definitions of insanity.
>The social welfare system in the U.S. is basically third world tier compared to the rest of the developed world
And yet our welfare recipients have TVs, cable, smart phones, high speed internet, a car, usually own their own home and are obese. Is there a forth- or fifth-world tier that we can "downgrade" to?
>and yet they aren't having nearly the same problems with militarized police or erosion of civil liberties in Canada or Norway or Germany that they are having in America.
Oh, hey! Overwhelmingly majority white countries! Who would have thought they don't have the police reacting to an increasingly violent ethnic minority? Not the case in Germany so much anymore under Angela "Mosque Mama" Merkel.
>Not to mention that private healthcare (just as an example) gives control over what care you have access to to corporate managers who have a vested interest in making sure you pay as much as possible and get as little as possible.
Then I'll change my insurance plan to the guy who offers cheaper service. It's called the free market, champ, it makes things better and cheaper.
>The thing lolbertarians seem to be incapable of understanding [...]
A valid point, and I'd take it more seriously if it came from someone who wasn't shilling for gibs.
>>30440765
Somebody's gotta pay for Loquisha's four babies, cuz her baby daddies sure ain't paying.
>>30441485
Are you saying this isn't 100% true?
>>30441497
Canada is only like 70% white now
>>30441486
>comfort & recreation
this
the first "firearm" was found in china and used to launch fireworks at far distance, then everyone started using it as a weapon by changing the design of the "launcher" and its projectile
we can still argue that firearm are not killing machines but just
>mechanical pieces slapped together that can wistand high internal pressure to shoot a projectile of a certain form into the user designated target
>>30441485
Aren't you late for your under water basket-weaving class?
>>30441503
>Canada is only like 70% white now
Then we can probably expect to see a growing police presence, assuming the Canadian government and CBC don't bury the stories.
>>30439931
Nobody said anything about design, and purpose is entirely up to the wielder. Just because i use a hammer to hammer things doesnt mean youre wrong when you stick a hammer up your ass to tickle your prostate, a tool 's purpose is defined by its owner.
>>30441486
>Firearms are designed first & foremost for comfort & recreation
I honestly cant decide if you're doing a parody, or that is the sort of insanely retarded shit that someone with severe cognitive dissonance would say.
mm-mm. yes, look at that lovely AR. it's so comfy and clearly designed as a recreation toy. Lets give one to every baby to play with.
Jesus. You know the crazy, frothing-at-the-mouth Islamic nutjobs screaming "islam will conquer the world!" while also saying "islam is a religion of peace!"? If you arent doing a parody, you're the gun equivalent of them.
>>30441534
Just because you are such a psychopath that you can't look at something without contemplating how many people you could murder with it, doesn't mean thats the purpose of the object.
Maybe you should go seek help before you shoot up a school or something.
>>30441534
Why are you on a weapons/firearm forum if you are so virulently anti-gun? Did you mistype the URL for the Brady Campaign?
Regardless of your grade school tier logic, firearms are here to stay, you and your ilk will never take them, you are insignificant on a country-tier scale, you will not change the future and you are just whining because deep deep down you know this to be true.
Get back to sociology class, Trevor.
>>30441544
>Just because you are such a psychopath that you can't look at something without contemplating how many people you could murder with it
Say the people who are claiming that cars, fertilizer, and household tools are all weapons that can be used to kill.....
Wow. Nice bit of trying to twist the reality around.
>>30441534
You know muslims lie to infidels to promote their goals, right? They don't actually mean it when they say "islam is a religion of peace."
>>30441479
>have target rifle
>made to only shoot targets
>too low calibre to reasonable inflict damage in a combat situation
>>MADE FOR KILLING
It's sports gear which could be used to inflict injury or death. Same as a race car. They should be regulated as such.
>>30441577
>Implying the US government doesn't lie to us too
>>30439676
Liberals don't have ideals. They have orders given to them by Jewish comedians and the (((news.)))
They do not possess the ability to think, so their endless hypocrisy and double-standards on every single issue they're told to bark about means nothing. A liberal literally doesn't even hold an opinion on a subject; they merely know what they've been told to think. Liberal "debate" includes repeating things they read on Goybook, and denying any statistics that weren't presented by an approved Jewish source.
They are golems, created by the Jew in the rough image of man and given life through artificial means to serve them.
>>30441545
>Why are you on a weapons/firearm forum if you are so virulently anti-gun?
Where did I say I was anti-gun?
No-where.
I said its fucking retarded as shit to try to say that "Cars are also lethal weapons" As some sort of argument to argue why guns should be allowed.
Regardless of the stance on firearm control - of ANY sort, from the slightest, most anaemic measure to some vastly more insane idea to ban them outright - Trying to argue that they are just the same as a car is fucking retarded. they are not in any way analogous in design.
Not just that design of purpose, but also design of operation - tens of thousands were being killed in auto accidents. So they changed the designs. Fenders and crumple zones with designs to absorb impacts. seatbelts. safety glass, and so on. And that's not even looking at the laws that have been passed to ensure that operation of a cars needs tests to be passed, speed limits, etc. Federal laws have been implemented to reduce auto fatalities. Meanwhile the NRA has lobbied to prevent the CDC even doing scientific studies to work out ways that firearms deaths could be minimized. These two are not the same.
When people try arguing that a car is a lethal weapon too, then they are not helping the cause of firearms owners. They are making an insane argument which solely serves to demonstrate to the anti-gun movements that gun owners are a bunch of fucking nutcases. It is in fact counter-productive.
If your world view is so simplistic that you read a criticism of an idiotic statement which makes gun owners sound idiotic as meaning I am some sort of "virulently anti-gun Brady Campaigner" then you seriously need to get a basic education.
>>30441534
>cigarettes are only made to kill
>regardless of enjoyment, or comfort, or even the money that they create
Are we going to hold every alcohol and tobacco company hostage with this too? as they are responsible for mass-murder/assualt by your reckoning, whereby the possible outcome of an object becomes it's function.
>>30439798
>Also, how do they intend to revolution without guns?
Mercenaries and Mexicans. Liberals hide in walled communities protected by armed guard, while insisting that everyone else that they should throw down their guns and that walls are rayciss.
>>30441642
>Cars cannot be used as a lethal weapon
Kek, opinion discarded.
>>30441618
>Sports gear that could be used to inflict injury or death
You're the type of faggot that got lawn darts banned aren't you?
![7382192aa1402cccbdad6a948e89dc289df0ca30_full[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YjbxDtO.jpg "7382192aa1402cccbdad6a948e89dc289df0ca30_full[1].jpg")
>No one is trying to ban guns! We're just trying to make it harder to buy them by adding thousands of dollars in extra fees, insurance, and taxes, and you can only buy from a short list of weapons we approve of! But we're not trying to ban guns!
>Republicans are trying to pass a bill that makes abortion clinics adhere to the most basic medical standards, and some might close because of it? THEY'RE TRYING TO BAN ALL THE ABORTIONS!
>>30441662
I am the type of faggot that believes a sports rifle is equally dangerous as lawn darts in civilian hands, and should be regarded as such legally.
I don't want them banned, but it gives the noguns a rickety spot to stand on senpai.
>>30440047
hahaha, germanfag here.
the leftist party of germany (there name is 'the left') are the worst gun grabbers together with the green party, using every single gun grabber meme as an argument.
>>30439831
The point is that "Real" communism is a fantasy land ideology that is impossible and what happened in the USSR is an accurate representation of what it typically devolves into.
>>30440622
Democrats in the US are more left wing than Republicans are right wing.
At least Democrats push for stupid socialist shit while most Republicans don't hold up free market ideals by furthering the cancer of corporatism.
>>30441844
>Democrats in the US are more left wing than Republicans are right wing.
By the standards of most other 1st world nations, Democrats are in fact fairly right-wing. The Republicans are Far right.
they are certainly not Left Wing at all.
>>30439594
If you actually read the articles all she actually did was quit her job and take a vacation. she didn't actually try to get maternity leave without actually having a child. The point of the article was "everybody needs a vacation every now and then", it was just seeing her coworkers leave for maternity leave that made her decide to take an (unpaid) break of her own, and when she came back, it was to a different job.
Stop sperging.
>John Olliver
For someone I kinda like, he has the worst kind of leftist gun control argument.
In that there is no argument, he just assumes that it will reduce violence and never even tries to justify it, it's just 'gun control = safety' and he never once justifies that belief with anything, not even flawed logic or bad arguments, it's just pure faith.
I like the fucking show, I like that he usually talks about apolitical issues that I see as being genuinely important, but holy fuck is he one of the most idiotic liberals on gun control I've ever seen, it's just blind faith and personal belief without even an excuse argument to back it up, it's just what he thinks and he assumes you think the same way.
I also HATE how he interviews people, it's like there's two entirely different versions of him. When he interviews someone he likes, he asks pertinent questions to lead to informative and meaningful answers. When he interviews someone he dislikes he just trolls and nitpicks them to try and make them look dumb.
One time he was interviewing a general about Snowden and chose to interpret an obvious metaphor as being a literal statement, just to make the general backspace and try to explain himself while Olliver sniped at him. He ALWAYS leads with his biases and goes in with an agenda and it disgusts me.
>>30441479
>Please, show me the car that's specifically designed to kill people?
I can show you sport cars that are designed to be drived at speeds way above those allowed in the city, yet there are no sport car bans in the citites.
What now?
>>30441655
>what is reading comprehension
I'm not even the guy you're replying to, but holy shit you're going out of your way to be as ignorant as fucking possible.
>>30436728
I can't think of anything specific, but the people who trust the government make me sick to my ass. I don't trust the government and neither should anyone else. Not because I think there's any kind of ZOG conspiracies to obliterate freedom under a new world order or because there's CIA mind control drugs in the water. I don't trust the government because the government is made up of *people*, and you don't blindly trust the average Joe Sixpack walking down the street do you? So why would you trust Joseph Shortcase because he's in a fancy suit on TV?
>>30441650
Is it wrong if I want to be one of those mercenaries?
>>30436728
>"why do you have a sniper rifle?"
I'm hunting ma'm, this is a hunting rifle
>"are you going to shoot the president?"
Here's my hunting license
Has actually happened.
>ct ftw
>>30442258
>what now?
Well, we have these things called "speed limits", imposing laws on how they are used. More importantly,however, we also have Driver's licenses, and tests which have to be taken before they are issued. The owners of cars are also required by law to have insurance, in the case of powerful sports cars, will be paying a premium.
So, "what now?"
Well, show me the firearm users' test, which needs to be issued before purchase. Or the insurance they're required to have? Or any other measure?
And your argument *still* does not counter the previously-stated facts. a high-speed road-going sports car is also designed to be used at city, commuting speeds. It has all the safety features - impact absorbing fenders, safety glass, seatbelts, airbags, anti-lock brakes, traction control, etc - all designed to prevent or minimize its use as a lethal object, when it is turned from its actual transportation purpose.
The firearm, meanwhile has none. It has no other purpose than to hurl projectiles at lethal speed.
>>30441655
I fucking hate people like you. Learn to read or stop trying to take part in a discussion you fucking imbecile
>The shoulder thing that goes up
>>30442461
>The owners of cars are also required by law to have insurance
That actually isn't true and neither is the assertion that you need a driver's license. Both apply only to if you want to operate your motor vehicle on public roads.
As far as mandatory insurance for owning a gun goes, how is that any different from a poll tax? Or have we entered The Feels Zone?
>>30441637
I really want to see a pic of Rush in a Palpatine robe behind this guy.
>A pop can lid was made to make it easier to drink soda
>No, you fucking idiot, a pop can lid was made to break the seal of a pop can easier
>>30442461
Dude, i cant even tell what your beef is. Do you honestly want these things for firearms? Do you really believe they should be regulated like a vehicle?
Or do you just take issue with the "cars are more lethal" statement?
You need to clarify your point instead of just being a holier-than-thou cocksock
>>30442678
>Dude, i cant even tell what your beef is.
Well, if you'd actually read back up through what I have said for the last however fuckknows how many hours, I've been saying that arguing that 'cars are as lethal' is a fucking idiotic argument, and its one that presents those in support of gun use as being a bunch of nutcases who see things like cars - objects designed for entirely different purposes - as potential weapons.
I'm saying that arguing that cars are also lethal, so therefore no actions should ever be taken against guns, is a stance that is in fact MORE harmful to the pro-firearms users' cause.
>>30439625
This is my favorite fucking one.
I know a libtard who's anti-cop and anti-gun and I hit him with that all the time.
Loses his shit.
"Don't worry anon, you're totally right, you don't need a gun. The police will always defend your rights and your life, right?"
>>30439192
Oddly enough i been told by people that the ar 15 can go threw 15 people.
>systematically calling a revolver a magnum
How about this classic chestnut.
"The 2nd amendment was only intended for muskets"
>>30442920
At least now the Supreme Court destroyed that argument. What's even better is that it was a unanimous ruling. Even the super liberal justices agreed.
>>30436842
Or you shoot targets to get use to a gun so that you can better blow up refrigerators. Idiot.
>>30442825
>tfw 10/22 can go through 10 police officers or 22 kindergartners
>the NRA tested it themselves
>>30440080
bruh
https://twitter.com/evacolen/status/745679764183199744
Thanks to this thread, I'm now ready for death.
>>30439145
a sine wave is a corkscrew if you look down its axis
also, a motorcycle has no doors.
>>30443059
Someone here wants to talk to you
>>30442461
driving is a privilege not a right
at least thats what the secretary of state keeps telling me
>a white man with a gun is the most dangerous thing to our society
got to hear this one on friday, the guy is muslim too
>>30439831
But it was communist.
>>30439304
not afraid of anyone... because I carry a gun.
>>30439831
>stateless
Not possible. Humans always organize into groups, and those groups always have a leader or leaders--a state.
>>30439998
You cannot be on the left and pro gun.
>>30443187
Yes. Yes you can.
Try reading up on political ideologies other than neoliberalism and social-democracy sometime.
>>30442534
>pop can
it's a coke you yankee scum
>>30440526
Not the guy your talking to, but in regards to non-privitised healthcare. What gives you the right to someone else's labour?
>>30443202
Try opening your eyes, today the left in the US is the anti-gun party. I don't care about your definition of liberal from 200 years ago
>>30443240
>you can't have a political opinion other than the one the Democrats and Republicans have
Oh, my bad.
>>30443262
More like
>you can't have a political opinion that matters, other than Democrat or Republican
Everyone knows the 2 party system is flawed, do nothing about it as much as you like.
>>30442712
Yeah i dont think you even really know what you are saying. You're assmad at the people who are on the same team as you. Sure, the argument may be fucked and fallacious, but there's stupid people everywhere pal. Trying to cater to the emotions of the average anti-gun aint gonna get you far, and they all look at us like we're crazy anyway. At least the fudds spouting that shit are on your side.
As far as the argument itself, purpose and designation of an object dont really have any bearing on what its used for. A guy blew up a government building with farm supplies, and pools kill way more kids than guns. I see the "cars are more lethal" statement as a response to the emotionally charged "think of the children" type of shit that brady campaign comes up with, and stricter regulation on just about a million different things will save more lives than stricter regulation on guns will, if the lives of the kids were actually the center of the issue.
>>30438918
>This type of gun when loaded with NORMAL bullets, causes the target to explode
Something I've actually had someone say to me
>>30441486
So close but on the right track. I would say firearms are desgined for safe operation within its specified parameters. I cant imagine anyome who would design a firearm without making sure it doesnt blow up while being used. I know Im nit picking, and its really easy to over look. But its fundamental to killing these bad pro gun sayings that stem from complete ignorance. Especially since some pro gun idiots want more "safety features" to be implimentes.
>>30439562
>Bottom line: Women are bad at putting ourselves first.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
OH WOW
>>30436760
Personal safety and sport
>>30441655
You are the reason people don't like gun enthusiasts.
>>30438898
I miss the days when you could actually pull this card.
Now they just want to fucking ban everything.
my top 5
>Pistol grips make it easier to shoot from the hip
>Plastic guns make it undetectable at the airport metal detector.
>AR means ASSAULT RIFLE
>YOU DON'T NEED THAT
>these belong on the battlefield, not on our streets on in our homes
>>30443216
>pop can
>yankee
Yankee fag here, He's from the midwest... We call them soda cans up here.
>>30445739
Depends on where you mean by "up here". Pop is generally recognized as a northern thing.
>>30445761
I'm in the NY / PA area, even as far south as MD, or as north as MA i still don't hear ppl say pop
>>30436745
implying the issue is leftism
>>30445761
what?
>>30440019
Hello fellow unicorn! How's the shit life of being a moderate in the middle politically?
>>30445761
RI fag, it's soda here
>mraps are impervious to Molotov cocktails and small arms
True on the small arms part to a certain extent. But cook something enough and it will kill everyone inside it.
>>30445853
Unless you're really old. Then you call it tonic.
>>30445853
bubblers and frappes
can't remember the rhode island word for hot dogs -- been too long since I moved away
>>30445917
That'd be a hot wiener, friend. Although that's a specific kind of dog you get from a ”New York System” place where they use the small dogs and put that Greek chili sauce, onions, mustard, and celery salt on it.
>>30445945
fuckin' A
i was just by olneyville
hadda drive up (from virginia) collecting a boat load of d0x for the italian government
turns out im an italian citizen, tho im not sure how much good the EU is going to do me nao
>>30439995
>Alternate Reality Harambe.jpg
>>30445986
Right on. I lived in Providence in a neighborhood between Providence College and the VA hospital for about a year; it's an interesting little state. Shit gun laws, but being wedged between Massachusetts and Connecticut like it is I guess it's not too surprising.
Good food though, I miss the calamari, clams, and those little wieners. I'll be in New England for vacation in August and I might take a drive to RI just for some chow.
>>30441416
Words can't describe how hard I'm laughing
>>30446081 i vaguely recall RI gun laws being drastically less terrible than NY CT and MA tho nowhere near as good as ME VT and NH??
>clearly both easy bars
my aunt lives, for more or less, on la salle academy's campus (god, dat fucking bakery, and im not even a fat fuck - not even by eurocuck standards)
>>30446148
Yeah, basically you can't carry, open or concealed. But we don't have any of the registry or salt weapon faggotry.
>>30446158
Apparently there was some litigation over the carry issue last year. You can either get a license from a local authority (police department) or from the attorney general. Local permits are shall-issue, AG permits are may-issue. Apparently most local authorities just made people apply through the AG, which would generally be rejected unless the applicant was a vet or retired LEO. Courts ruled that local authorities have to start issuing their own permits now.
All permits are good statewide, but open carry is only allowed with an AG permit. You also need a separate permit to buy a handgun but you just have to pass a test given by the Department of Environmental Management to get one. Overall kinda shitty laws, but yeah, better than neighboring states.
>>30446354
All I know is when I tried to get one I was told by multiple people, at the town office and gun store, that it would probably be denied, but they sure were eager to take my application fees and fees for the training class.
>>30446377
I'm not surprised. When a state is run by mafiosos for as long as Rhode Island has been public officials forget how governments are supposed to work.
>>30446377
>>30446399
dubs check them /k/omrades
>implying the mafia shouldn't run shit
>>30445611
>people want to ban cars too
>main boards are /o/ /k/ and /d/
>>30446434
I really would like to see a supreme court case about shitting dick nipple futa anal vore.
>>30436842
What's wrong with killing? We've only been doing it since the dawn of time. What makes anyone think that the invention of guns is going to change that?
>>30446354
>permit to buy a handgun but you just have to pass a test given by the Department of Environmental Management to get one
>environmental issues handgun permit
Wat?
>>30442422
Depends. Will you be willing to turn the walled community into a fish barrel and setting up a new govt?
>>30443083
> a 2-dimensional wavelet is a 3-dimensional "corkscrew"
Only when plotted in a manner similar to ( sin(x), sin(y), z )
>>30436815
> Gravity and wind resistance do not exist
>>30439030
> Wind resistance doesn't exist
>>30440927
see
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