Does Spain have any chance of taking Gibraltar if Britain responds with force?
No.
When was the last time Spain did, like, anything, the 1700s?
>>30386279
I smell hilarity!
And maybe the long overdue next European war.
Hurry up and start the next Euro war, I need something to do
>>30386279
Spain can't do shit. I sincerely doubt Germany and France would be willing to back them either. It would paint the EU in a bad light as being the aggressor.
>>30386279
WW3 Incoming
>>30386304
They literally just had one in Ukraine though.
>yfw the Eurocucks start infighting again
>>30386321
are having*
>>30386321
>a shitty little proxy fight
>Good European war
Nah mate.
We need a Franco-Prussian or a hundred years war again. Something where two to five major euro nations fight over nothing for 1 to 100 years.
>>30386298
Read into the Spanish American War for some lulz. Outside their civil war I cant come up with anything.
gibraltar voted like 95% for remain
just give them to spain
serves em right
>>30386321
That wasn't a war anon. Russia broke into Ukraines house after she said she was through with his bullshit and he tried to rough her up and started taking shit. Then the USA showed up at slapped Russias dick and he's been sitting on the sidewalk ever since waiting for America to back down
>>30386353
US did a coup in ukraine first
>>30386353
>>30386359
OH BOY THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN.
GOODBYE THREAD.
>mfw Spain thinks it has military power
>>30386359
*10 rubles have been deposited in your account*
>>30386279
Nato v. Nato
Awesome
>this thread
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAH HAAH HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>30386376
>Implying in any way it isn't true
>Being this unfamiliar with U.S. foreign policy for the last 75 years
>2016
Holy fuck.
Of course this will work! Because Hispanic people have such a great record taking islands from the Brits, right?
>>30386279
>bong tourists stop going to Spain
>Spanish economy implodes
Is there a source?
Because if so: holy shit we could be looking at not only the death of the EU but also Falklands 2.0
>>30386785
Sauce?
>>30386821
You've never seen that video?
Oh you are in for a treat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkcTpCur7g
All I can say is come fucking take it you Moor bastards! I've been on the edge of my seat waiting for the Yuropoors to start shit again. Maybe it'll finally lead to a rise in nationalism.
I heard that Spanish soldiers spit at the flag while pretending they are kissing it.
Just placing this here.
Also remember that the last time Gribraltar was asked to join Spain 98% said no.
I give it a 15/88 chance of happening.
>>30386279
Spanishfag here.
Nothing will ever happen.
This Sunday we have general elections "again". There are four main parties fighting for power and they hate eachother. This means that for the next four years we won't be able to get any shit done.
Is the first time that I see the op new. I'm calling it bullshit.
>>30386832
Oh my god, that was beautiful, thank you
>>30386928
Is podemos going to win?
>>30386865
I saw that myself and thats just ridiculously high, like to the point where I question its validity. Like when usually you say, "95% of people blah" its a gross exaggeration but really 95% of them voted a particular way? That's gotta be like one of the highest wins.
>>30387022
Very unlikely.
We don't even have to wait until Sunday to know the results.
PP will win with roughly 35% of the votes.
PSOE and Podemos will fight for the second place.
The fourth place will be for Ciudadanos.
The last 10% of votes will go for little parties that nobody really cares about.
The problem is that in order to make decisions, you need 50% + 1 votes in the congress, and in Spain the opposition always unifies and votes against the main party, so it's impossible to do anything without strong concessions.
>>30387092
PP might win, but they will not govern. The PSOE, Podemos coalition will.
>>30386803
Holy fuck I need that flag
>>30386359
Except that's nonsense.
>>30386317
Yeah right a bunch of brussels-worshippers, half-sandniggers leftists cucks, who can't work for shit and already have enough to do with their own separatists, are going to take back Gibraltar by force... Riiiight. And I'm gonna turn François Hollande into Napoleon the 4th by feeding him cheese tendies and strawberry pies with a blue white red flag on it. Get real.
God I really feel bad for genuine spaniards right now.
Didnt they vote like 95% stay
Give them the fucking rock and then fire bomb Barcelona after
>>30387092
Do you guys have any right or anti EU party with any chance in the elections?
>>30387139
Most people on the right are Franquist fossils that recycle or refuse to die. There's really only one right party of any relevance.
>>30387139
If there is one anti EU party, that would be Podemos, but they have bigger issues right now.
>>30386279
>>France decide to back Spain
Good luck britbongs trying to get any kind of troops in there while being overrun by peace protests.
>>France decide to tell Spain to fuck off.
Look at the map, draw conclusions.
>>France decide let half of its historical european partners and most important neighbours infight for the most strategic point in that part of the ocean.
Not gonna happen.
Maybe spain back off after a mean look, maybe the UK get a shitty deal out of it.
But the UK would not achieve anything by using force instead of overly cunning diplomacy.
War has changed.
>>30386832
that guy tried a bit too hard with the poorly done subs.
>>30386832
oh god my sides
>>30386298
The most recent relevant thing they did was the Spanish Civil War, I think.
>>30386279
>Spain
>doing anything
>without catastrophically fucking it up
>ever
No
>>30387304
>>30387283
We managed to have one of the most destructive civil wars of the las century.
>>30387321
>civil war
>not catastrophically fucking up
>>30387321
So, can you wait to die fighting British troops for a stupid rock?
>>30387321
You guys fucked up allowing a frenchie take the throne instead of a Hapsburg. Spain has onlyg gone down hill since then.
>>30386636
>>30387109
>>30386353
>>30387337
I wouldn't worry. When was the last time a spanish politician did what he promised?
Anyway, that action would require money, effort and a strong national unity. we don't have any of those things right now.
As I said before, hype as much as you want, but I thing that nothing will happen.
>>30387367
think*
Here we go boys.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/746242140578013184
>>30386279
>a nato country going against another nato country
why would this ever happen
>>30387385
what the fuck even is spain?
>fuck you brits, if you leave we're gonna take gibraltar
>actually, how bout we share instead?
>>30387405
Why not? Greece and Turkey hate each other even more.
>>30386832
>This is what Argentina actually believes
>>30387512
Yeah and have they been in conflict with each other since joining NATO? What would NATO itself even do in such a situation
>>30386279
Neither side has the money to fight a war, Spain has been broke for years and the UK just buttfucked its economy.
Guess that Spain has the advantage as they could walk to war.
>>30387537
remove kebab
>>30386708
>being this much of a tinfoil hat
Listen, I know you probably maxed out at a college diploma in welding, which is why I don't see you around the department at UMich, but please stop spewing your underage, undergraduate AT BEST opinions around.
By the way, reading wikipedia at your moms doesn't give you credence for your fabled (and fake) pretend knowledge in "us foreign policy history for the past 75 years."
t. post-doc at UMich
Now shut up and let the adults talk.
>>30387120
>Yeah right a bunch of brussels-worshippers, half-sandniggers leftists cucks
you do understand that we've had a right-wing government for the last 4 years (which has possibly been the worst president in the history of the country)
>>30387537
Procrastinate by declaring that article 5 does not apply to wars between NATO members. They will attempt to solve the issue diplomatically first as less as possible.
>>30387988
High Emperor Trump will come to England's aide.
>>30387537
>Yeah and have they been in conflict with each other since joining NATO?
A lot longer. The reason why both are in NATO is very simple, strategic locations to keep Soviets out of Mediterranean and good places for airbases to raid godless commies from.
>>30386279
Hollow threats backfire...
>>30386832
>shellshock intensifies
>>30386279
Nothing will happen.
If Spain annexes Gibraltar it means that they join borders and so Gibraltar will stop being the contraband/tax haven that it is now for Spain, so it would stop being so beneficial to Spain. Now, if Gibraltar gets out of the EU and no comercial partneship is signed to keep the same conditions then the relationships become less beneficial to Spain.
But even like that, Spain doesn't have the international power to invade anything, nor enough money to wage actual war. If Spain invades it would have to return it back to the US, Germany or anybody that wants to have the favour of Britain for "returning" Gibraltar from the pesky half breed moors.
Hence this;
>>30387385
Thats the nearest thing that will never happen, and is probably more about giving political weapons for the BREMAINERS by threatening Britain with closer relationships between Gibraltar/Spain.
>>30388111
Its about them supporting an independance movement to keep the tax haven status and chipping away piece for piece from the uk.
>Dios Mio! UK is leaving the EU
>Time to start a war with another sovereign nation, ha-haa!
The fuck? Are they drunk again?
>>30386279
RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES.
BRITONS NEVER NEVER NEVER WILL BE SLAVES.
Fuck the spanish. As if they didn't learn in the Anglo-Spanish war, that indeed, Britannia rules the waves.
Couldn't take the channel. Couldn't stop the privateers. Can't take Gibraltar, and you won't. Britannia rules the waves.
pssh, srsly, though. Poorest country in western europe. The fuck are they gonna do?
>>30386279
Fact 1- The Spanish Military looks like a fucking gay homo parade
Fact 2- All the British have to do is say no and invoke article 5 if the homo army tries to take it by force.
>>30386832
Kek
>>30386279
I suspect Spain could physically seize Gibraltar, especially with a surprise attack. I'm sceptical that the UK could launch a full scale counter invasion too
>>30386651
By the obligations in the treaty it would actually be NATO vs. spain
>>30386279
probably not. Argentina invading the falklands again is more likely.
>>30388224
Oh I hope so, giving the argies another smack down so close to leaving the EU will just further solidify England's position.
>>30387857
Yuros need to learn something. Having a slightly more centrist government than your socialist standard doesn't make it a right-wing government.
Even "far-right" candidates in the EU, like Marie Le Pen, are still leftist degenerates.
>>30388232
Smacking down a bunch of brown people with a cuacasian complex ain't worth much though, but I like their Pucara COIN aircraft.
>>30388222
Nope. The NATO charter does not contemplate wars between its members. There's no binding article that forces countries to intervine between two members of the same alliance.
>>30388257
isn't the wording of the charter anytime a member is attacked?
Invading gibraltar would be an attack, which would make Spain not only attacking per article 5, but also it would make them international criminals in starting a war of aggression.
>>30387857
You need to learn from your colonies
>>30386322
Naturally, it's been far too long since they killed of a generation young men.
>>30386353
>Then the USA showed up at slapped Russias dick
this is what americans actually believe
>>30388275
Yeah but the current generation is mostly muslims, so only net gains can occur.
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .
>>30388284
So, there's legal room to do literally nothing of significance?
>>30387696
So how many feminist dick you have had to swallow to get that diploma? Did you asked for more?
>Hurp da treaties
Where's the fun in that? Let's just ignore those and evaluate the conflict in a vacuum.
>UK forces in Gibraltar
1x light infantry brigade (<1000 men)
2x patrol boats (armanent: 2x GPMGs)
24x RHIB
0x permanently stationed aircraft
I think we can safely assume the Spaniards would more or less walk in.
>>30388293
Yes. However, doing so essentially means you abdicate your NATO commitments, which makes it entirely possible for other nations to do the same in regards to you.
>>30387696
>Michigan
Oh no it's retarded
>>30388375
>but muh Royal Navy
>muh reinforcements
RN's only aviation vessels are strictly helis only. Spain has a carrier with Harriers. Both sides have air defence vessels mounting Aegis or similar. Spain also has a strong air force. There is no realistic chance of the RN getting through the Spanish Navy.
The UK has nukes though.
Do you think Spain and EU will allow Gibraltar to be a tax haven like it is as part of the UK?
I fucking don't
>>30386279
Will Portugal support Britain if Spain goes bonkers?
>>30386333
Never before had a nation so unprepared for war gone into with such enthusiasm.
>>30386874
you had one job
>>30388514
Portugal has a military?
>>30386279
Does Spain even have a military?
>>30386298
I believe it was with the Spanish Foreign Legion in the Iraq Coalition. They also prticipated in Yugosalvia
>>30388543
Italy made a good effort of matching them in WWII.
>>30386279
>its a British and Spain slapfighting episode
Classic, haven't seen this one in ages
>>30388475
>There is no realistic chance of the RN getting through the Spanish Navy.
>19 surface combatants vs 11 surface combatants
>7 hunter-killed SSNs (including 3 Astutes), vs 3 rustic SSKs
>no realistic chance
lol k
>>30388607
It was a reference to the SpanAm War.
Are you speaking of the Italian Corpo Truppe Volontarie during the Civil War?
All of you are implying that the US would not stand with the UK, which is funny.
>>30388654
>mfw US/UK vs EU
>Russia gets feisty and invades Poland
>Greece and Turkey start sissy fighting
>Global increase in testosterone cause the entirety of Southeast Asia to go to war on each other
>India and Pakistan try to out incompetent each other on the field of battle
>New Zealand, after an Australian tourist drinks the last beer in the fridge, allies with the Western Ostrich Autonomous Hegemony.
Its beautiful
>>30388588
Even Montenegro has a military.
>>30386333
>Two local officials, not knowing that war had been declared and believing the firing had been a salute, came out to Charleston to apologize for their inability to return the salute as they were out of gunpowder.
>The following day, Glass sent Lt. William Braunersruehter to meet the Spanish Governor to arrange the surrender of the island and the Spanish garrison there. Some 54 Spanish infantry were captured and transported to the Philippines as prisoners of war.
> No U.S. forces were left on Guam, but the only U.S. citizen on the island, Frank Portusach, told Captain Glass that he would look after things until U.S. forces returned
This man is a fucking legend, where is his movie?
>hey, uh, Frank, we're taking over the island, but we can't afford to keep any troops here.
>oh yeah, no worries, I'll keep these damn Spaniards in line until you get back, EZPZ.
>their first combat deployments will be the 2025 War of Gibraltar
>>30388706
Did you mention specifically Montenegro on purpose?
>>30386279
i hope, Gibraltar is a pimple on the face of europe
>>30386359
remember to swallow when Putin finishes, he likes that
>>30386342
if the scots have another referendum, Gibraltar will probably have one too, and with that 95%, will probably leave the UK
>>30388232
>implying the british could take back falklands again
they could barely do it the first time, and things havent gotten any better for them since
>>30388475
>The UK has nukes though.
will they use them against an non-nuke country though? they didn't do it to argentina
>>30386832
The songs are kind of catchy.
I suppose that's the point in musical propaganda. Also they actually believe that, that's amazing.
While Gibraltar is very much EU minded, they DO NOT want to become Spanish again. There was a vote about it when the political leaders suggested it a while back. The brits actually considered giving it back, but the inhabitants were entirely against it.
>>30386279
Well, Euro-anglos are gonna need their outpost, right? It's probably going to be pushed for more through politics than actual military action. They'll turn it into a protectorate for English people.
Though they do already have Ireland, and Scotland will probably separate and join the EU.
>>30390881
Are you kidding? The ships they would send are now much more capable. Never mind Argentina lacks the capability to take them in the first place now.
>>30386279
Spain will not get away with it, UN will respond, so does NATO, USA, and EU>
>>30387060
Why do you find it hard to believe that a party of UK that is actually touching the continent and relies on its market heavily for basic necessities including water would vote to continue among other things membership in the Euro Economic Zone?
>>30386279
>Spain vs UK
One of the few battles the UK could never lose.
>>30386317
>a country with a land border can't invade a tiny territory attached to it defended by a knifeless, dickless island hundreds of miles away
lol ok
I guarantee the bolivian army could get the job done, let alone a highly trained modern armed forces
>>30386832
I find it hilarious that the Argentinian commander is a white british man but all the solders are Spanish even in the propaganda.
>>30386279
>YFW the Catalans use the opportunity to secede.
>>30393416
>Catalans are actually goblins
I never knew.
>>30393390
Uh no, "the Argentine commander" is a generic military junta guy, the reason he looks white is that he is white
>>30387696
>post doc
Enjoy your crippling student loan debt while you vainly try to find a professorship but the colleges just rotate you and other nameless hordes in and out of adjunct positions, while the welders you make fun of have solid, high paying, in-demand jobs anywhere in the country
>>30388625
Plus wouldn't the US lend support to Britain on the DL?
>>30387696
spotted the Russian spy
>>30388475
>Spain has a carrier with Harriers
hahhahaha
>Spain also has a strong air force
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
>RN getting through the Spanish Navy.
MY FUCKING SIDES
go read a book nigger. not least because putting to sea would bankrupt spain at the moment
>>30392913
because who the fuck wants to be ruled by spain, that's why
>>30387696
>post-doc
>entire line between each sentence
>didnt actually make any argument, used a fallacy, appeal to authority
>>30386353
t. hohol
>>30386279
They'd take it in a day. The Brits would kick them out in a month.
>>30388544
Mr. 14 hours ago are you fucking dumb.
You posted that 14 hours ago but i'm hoping you come back to see this and realize how fucking dumb you are. What significant event happened in the year 1588 that involved the British and Spanish? Can you answer that question or are you too dumb? Jesus Christ you are dumb. Dummy.
>>30388475
Come on mate get real. A single Type 45 could land in port at Gibraltar and that would be enough to stop the Spanish Air Force doing anything against Gibraltar. Wait a few more years and then there will be F-35Bs and a QE class carrier.
>>30386342
They also voted 98% to stay part of Britain in a 2002 referendum.
The mood may have shifted a bit, but certainly nowhere near enough to get independence, at most, it´ll be about 85% in favour of remaining part of Britain today.
>>30388625
>>30394297
>>30396163
>Implying Spain doesn't have a strong air force
59 Eurofighters and 86 F/A-18s compares very favourably to however many Harriers the UK tries transporting on container vessels this time.
>Bigger number = win
When it comes to modern destroyers, the RN only has one more than the SA. Home advantage could foreseeably overcome that deficit. The rest of the RN's advantage in numbers comes from their frigates, which are primarily intended for an ASW role and do not have particularly robust air defences.
>A single Type 45 could land in port at Gibraltar
'Could'. I don't think it's a given.
To be honest m8s, I'm just posting info from Wiki in a haphazard way to stimulate discussion.
>>30386832
gets me evertim
>>30392913
Because you can't get 95% of people to agree on whether or not Hitler was evil, let alone anything where there are arguments for both sides.
>>30388706
They're joining NATO!
>>30386279
Well, British better push their new carriers in the next two years cuz there's another spic nation they have to whack.
>>30388602
I met and worked with Spanish marines and Portuguese infantry commandos in Afghanistan
>>30388284
Doesn't that clause only work if the EU/NATO party being attacked isn't themselves aggressing?
>>30397624
Correct. So notionally it would work in Britain's favour in this scenario but not Spain's. In practice it's irrelevant because Britain wouldn't invoke it, and nobody would make any meaningful response even if they did.
>>30388475
>get through the spanish navy
why would the spanish navy sortie into the atlantic?
some might say sailing into waters teaming with modern western SSNs when the backbone of your ASW is a handful of Perry class frigates is a slightly overbrave move
>>30390950
wish those fucking bongs did that for hong kong the bloody cowards.
>>30397668
>why would the spanish navy sortie into the atlantic?
Why would they indeed, if they were defending a single extremely small location literally attached to their own coast? The onus would be on the RN to fight their way through both the Spanish navy and AF.
>>30397686
Are you seriously suggesting that Britain should have attempted to seize (and hold) by force the area of greater Hong Kong? Because that has to be one of the most stupid ideas posted on /k/ today.
>>30397694
well what are they going to do on the wrong side of the strait of gibraltar? provide moral support?
>>30397706
uhm that's kind of the same point as mine. Gibraltar lies on the Med side of the straight, so why would you bother cruising around the Atlantic side when the RN would have to come through an extremely narrow chokepoint AFTER taking whatever the Spanish AF could throw at them? At most they would want to sit just on the Atlantic side to take any initial opportunity at lobbing missiles before falling back to the Med to see if anything was actually going to challenge the straight itself.
But mostly I don't even see the Spanish navy being the biggest problem, unless the RAF went fully balls deep grinding it down the Spanish AF has potentially far greater reach, and unlike in the Falklands there isn't 1 single runway for the RAF to hit that forces aircraft to fly at edge of their range for a few minutes on target against the RN taskforce.
>>30396752
>Home advantage could foreseeably overcome that deficit. The rest of the RN's advantage in numbers comes from their frigates, which are primarily intended for an ASW role and do not have particularly robust air defences.
The RN's destroyers are its air-defence arm, not primary surface combatants. That job is for the Frigates; they just happen to do ASW best because the UK's stratigic onus throughout the Cold War was defending the GIUK gap.
When it comes to actually destroying surface ships, RN doctrine is to employ its submarines. Frankly... Spain is pretty fucked in that regard. Especially if they sortie into the Atlantic as some suggest; it is a submarine's playground and the UK has been there as a bluewater presence since day 1. They have cutting edge topography surveys, know all the thermoclines and the best spots for their subs to lurk to remain undetected. It would be like sailing into a minefield.
>>30396752
>PAAMS is able to track over 2,000 targets and simultaneously control and coordinate multiple missiles in the air at once, allowing a large number of tracks to be intercepted and destroyed at any given time.
Top of the range radars, top of the range missiles, I think a type 45 could manage, and like that other anon said, the submarines are for anti-ship work.
>>30390950
that was at a time when the fascists were in charge of spain and the britbongs were free
it's the opposite now, bongistan literally has a politician named falange and he's going to be the next PM, meanwhile spain has solved terrorism and is on track to becoming the denmark of iberia
>>30396752
>59 Eurofighters
By that you mean "59 of some of the lowest end Eurofighters that don't have any air to ground ability for Spain yet".
Spain uses them purely as air to air, but even then they are leagues behind the UK ones. Spain's Typhoons are only above Austria and Germany's ones. Every other customers ones are fucking miles ahead in technologies added on.
>>30397736
> unless the RAF went fully balls deep grinding it down the Spanish AF has potentially far greater reach, and unlike in the Falklands there isn't 1 single runway for the RAF to hit that forces aircraft to fly at edge of their range for a few minutes on target against the RN taskforce.
Spain has absolutely no AWACS.
The Spanish Air Force is FUCKED against the RAF.
It's not like the RAF can't just fly down to Spain to force an encounter. They can reach Spain no problem with the Voyager tankers and their enormous range/endurance. Unless Spain is content to allow the RAF to operate without contest by avoiding conflict, in which case the Spanish air bases and air defences would be crippled in days from Storm Shadows and Tomahawks.
It's impossible to state how much that lack of AWACS completely negates Spain's chances against the RAF.
>>30398482
That's a bit less of a concern when the bongs are trying not to get shot down by spanish patriot missiles
>>30398528
>>30398517
What's wrong with ground-based control if you're operating over home turf?
>>30399380
Vulnerable to HARMs for a start.
Oh fuck I'd love to see some fucking poor Spanish cunts try to take Gibraltar, stupid fucking nerds can't even stop obese working class brits from shitting up their pov country, just fucking lmao, I'd sign up tomorrow to rek some Spanish fags.
>>30398517
>>30399402
Britain would not want to fight a full scale conflict that involved raping pretty much the entire Spanish military, it would simply look bad both at home and internationally. Sure in a few weeks of full scale operation the RAF could likely render the entire Spanish AF ineffective if not destroyed before moving in to clear up their Navy, but despite having full rights to do so in the event of Spanish aggression such a widespread campaign would likely draw consequences from the rest of the EU, as well as the US should the Caliphate of Shillary have happened. Regardless of legal rights or wrongs about it having 0 trade with the EU over Gibraltar would not be an acceptable possible outcome.
Despite it being utterly irrelevant due to geography people would still hold up the Falkland campaign as the template and expect a localised conflict, despite there being the entire fucking rest of Spain attached right there at 0 miles range which makes anything similar entirely impossible.
>>30387696
Ad hominem is for commies
>>30386279
no
>>30386286
/thread
>>30386321
A rebellion doesn't count as a war unless the rebels win...
>>30386353
And just like that the thread has turned into shit.
it depends on wether is total war (without nukes) or a skirmish
in a total war spain eurofighters + grown radars can easily mantain free the air
in the sea we may be overhelmed by their submarines (we dont have at the moment) but we could easily bomb the shit out of their reinforcement ships from land
the land battle would be hard, very hard if fought conventionally
but if we are allowed to use massive artillery barrages we can easily overwhelm them and later zergrush them
>>30388721
I'm giggling incoherently
>>30392913
Because he lives in the 4chan universe where everyone who agrees with him is real and anyone who disagrees with him is a basement dwelling troll SJW
In my neighborhood, in the primary election, hillary got like 250 votes, bernie got like 210, trump got like 3, cruz got like 6, and kasich got like 7
But according to 4chan logic it must have been rigged because any sane person would have voted for trump
nah their economy got fucked too
>>30386376
Saw that flask at Target yesterday. The Freedom Flask. 64 oz I think it is. Almost bought it before my girlfriend slapped my hand because she wants me to cut back on drinking.
>>30386874
52/48 chance.
>>30386279
>Mexicans vs Muslims.
Please YES. The great battle of the Non-Whites in the first half of the 21st century.
>>30387696
Fuck off elitist douche canoe
what >>30393492 said
>>30387696
>Michigan
Hahhahahahahahhahabshs
>Olivença is Portuguese
I would fight for the brits so we can get it back.
>>30386298
Spain was the number 3 nation in the Iraq war coalition behind the US and UK, though that changed in 2004 with the Madrid train bombing, which Al Qaeda said was a direct retaliation for Iraq. This led to widespread feelings that involvement in that war had been a mistake. The next election was largely a referendum on Iraq and was won by the socialists who had pledged to remove Spain from that conflict.
>>30390945
the subs in some parts are not a real translation just fyi
also the original cartoon ends with the kid going back to the present where the soldier he met in the war now runs a museum about the falklands war and tells him how many of his friends died for no reason and its important that people always think and stop pointless wars before they start.
>>30388157
funny to see brits talking about "greatness" and a dead empire when they give their ass and be butt-fucked by big 'murican cock on daily basis (like it or not) ...
>>30400093
>it would simply look bad both at home and internationally
So would Spain marching into Gibraltar. The scenario implies that such concerns are irrelevant for the purposes of discussion.
>>30386353
Could the UK militarily defeat Spain? Easily.
Does the UK have the political willpower to attack a fellow NATO member, who is part of a trading bloc which is already acting spitefully and vengefully against Britain's disagreements with it even without a war in the mix, in a scenario that is inevitably going to be greedily eaten up by the wider world as "heroic anti-colonialism" and "just punishment for centuries of imperial oppression"? I'm not so sure.
>>30406884
Would it though? Spain would probably spin an occupation of Gibraltar with some sort of bullshit about "decolonisation", and all the tinpot two-bit dictators in the UN and liberal media both in the UK and US just eat that shit up.
>>30386298
>>30387283
Wrong, all of you.
The last MAJOR thing Spain was involved in was the "Cod War" between Spain and Canada.
>Canada won btw.
>>30393535
>on the DL
America, doing anything on the down low.. ha.. Ha.. Ahahahahahahahahahaha
The USA would be dropping airborne on Madrid within 24 hours, and the Med & Atlantic Fleets would have Spain embargoed with Marines hitting the beaches.
All the while EU headquarters gets hit by ISIS.
USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>30407259
I'm not so sure that it would. The USA's support for Britain over the Falklands was reluctant and not guaranteed from the outset. They're probably going to be even more half-hearted in another "colonial" dispute, and they'd probably value currying favour with the EU more than the UK.
>>30386832
kek
>>30407266
All it would take it the UK to enact the US-UK Treaty, skip NATO altogether.
>>30404189
Then cut back on drinking.
>>30397374
Of course Hitler wasn't evil. If anything, he was a saint.
>>30393459
Looks like the commandant from Police Academy
>>30407234
>Wrong, all of you.
I read this in Chris Morris' voice.
>>30407266
The reason for that seems to be that the US had the Argentine government was very freedom-loving - it had helped the US support the CONTRAs. It was also party to the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance, a sort of NATO of the Americas.
The Spaniards are no-good libruls and the original source of Mexicans, so I don't think the burgers would harbour the same qualms in this case.
>>30407538
The USA's priority is going to be whatever stop internecine squabbling in NATO and settles continental harmony the fastest. I reckon that if the UK repelled the initial attack, they'd come down on the UK's side; if Gibraltar gets occupied and the UK needed to organise a counter-attack to retake it, the USA would order them to suck it up. They may even order the UK to hand it back over to Spain freely if it stops Europe squalling.
