http://rollingout.com/2016/06/16/stand-ground-defense-denied-black-man-georgia/
What say you, /k/?
something something institutional racism something something fuck off back to /pol/, subhuman.
>he said his gun fired by accident
Guns accidentally going off don't count as self defense? holy shit it must be racism.
>>30376910
His gun is a white supremacist ghost gun!
>Shockingly, the judge stated that the reason Murray could not use the defense was because he said his gun fired by accident during the struggle with the victim and his three friends.
"Shockingly".
Dude even said he had a ND...
>The judge stated that “nor does it appear to this court that the other men in the vicinity were acting in such a way that would cause the defendant to reasonably believe that deadly force was necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or a third party … The court cannot reconcile the defendants asking for immunity under a self-defense statute, by stating that the use of deadly force was justified, and then also stating that the use of deadly force was unintentional.”
Sounds fair enough.
Still feel kinda bad for the motherfucker but self defense isn't some magic card you can use to get out of shit... Unlike some other cards.
>“We respectfully disagree with all of the law cited and most of the facts stated in the Judge’s order. If being physically assaulted by 3 men is not a grounds for a person to defend themselves by any means necessary, I am unclear what is. It is our hope our Motion for Reconsideration will be heard.”
kek.
>>30376924
>>30376910
I think the fact that his gun went off accidentally should get his charges dropped. Them still charging him despite not meaning to shoot his gun is what I would personally take issue with.
>>30376924
>Murray is being represented by the attorney Mawuli Mel Davis of the Davis-Bozemen Law Firm. Attorney Davis issued the following statement to rolling out:
i think this is the issue. his lawyer is fucking useless.
nah, if he is getting assaulted by four guys i think that is grounds for lethal force.
>Despite this threat, the court seems to be saying that Murray should have allowed himself to be beaten first and then used his gun as a last resort.
Where is this? Bongland?
>>30377019
>Despite this threat, the court seems to be saying that Murray should have allowed himself to be beaten
ftfy Bong
>>30376403
He fucked up by living in Georgia with their shit gun laws.
>>30376964
Can't prove your gun accidently went off. Have to prove it malfunctioned at that point
Sounds more like a shitty lawyer and the pitfalls of a shitty lawyer.
>>30376403
Does not compute.
>>30377090
This. However, I'm not gonna pretend that him being black people probably made this case a more uphill battle for him.
>>30377259
Also didn't help that the guy he shot was a former Police Officer.
>>30377397
>former cop
God damn, perfect storm shit going for this guy. Assuming he was in the right.
>>30377067
>georgia
>shitty gun laws
what?
I always thought we had it pretty fucking good compared to most of the other shitholes. Sure, we're not alaska, but we're not as bad as Tey-hah or some other states.
From http://rollingout.com/2016/05/19/stand-ground-double-standard-one-black-man-georgia/
After eating dinner, the couple decided to play a game of pool and enjoyed a few drinks during the night. There was a party taking place at the bar and a drunken White male stumbled into Murray’s wife Traci, and made no apology for his actions. It was at this point that Murray stood between his wife and the man and told him to get away from his wife. The drunken man, later identified as Nathan Adams a former police officer, told Murray, “You need to f*cking leave” and four other White men began to surround Murray.
Murray was able to move away from the men and went to his car to retrieve his licensed handgun and try to get his wife out of the bar and away from the men. When he tried to reenter the bar, the door was blocked by the group of White men who continued in their aggressive behavior. Murray told the men to let his wife out of the bar and they told him his wife wasn’t going anywhere and started towards him in the parking lot.
[...]
While [Murray] was being placed in the car, an off-duty and out of uniform White officer, who was a friend of Nathan Adams, arrived at the scene. He shouted at Murray, “Do you know who we are?! We’re going to fry your black ass!”
Yeah okay, this sounds fucking awful.
>>30376403
>white people being racist
No surprise here. Glad I just got another AR :).
>>30377617
>went to his car to retrieve his licensed handgun and try to get his wife out of the bar and away from the men. When he tried to reenter the bar,
that's not self-defense. that's vengeance.
>>30377626
A reasonable person could say that it's defense of another, which is legal.
This whole case is a bad situation involving the blue line, but faggot media wants to make it a race issue.
>>30377626
I'm not entirely with you on that one. Allow me a bit of conjecture: Murray infers, apparently rightly so, that shit's gonna go down if he tries to escort his wife out of there, and so he readies himself for that particular situation. I'd consider that a reasonable course of action.
>>30377617
I don't get why he would leave without his wife in the first place, but other than that it sounds like he actually dindu nuffin wrong. And if the cop really said that he should be fucking fired immediately.
>>30377617
you missed the part where he gets punched while in handcuffs.
>>30377680
Doesn't say in the article, but it's possible the off duty cops separated Murray from his wife, which would make it understandable for him to retrieve his firearm. If she was trying to leave also and they wouldn't let her, wouldn't that be kidnapping?
Also:
>While he was cuffed, a member of the group that assaulted Murray ran forward and punched him in the head.
Pretty sure that's going to get that guy sued
>Should've allowed himself to be beaten first
If he never said it was a ND then it was a clear cut case
>>30376403
Why did they air brush his face so much?
Is this some yearbook picture or some shit?
>>30377626
>Trying to get wifey and chillen out of bar full of belligerent drunks
>Vengeance
pls
>>30376924
>>30376910
Do you reckon he'd have got off if he'd kept his mouth shut about the ND and just gone with "I thought he was going to kill me so I lit him the fuck up" instead?
>>30376964
>I think the fact that his gun went off accidentally should get his charges dropped.
So if I take my full auto AR15 and mag dump in to a crowded shopping mall(inB4 "USER WAS V& FOR THIS POST") then stand there like "whoops lol, though the saftey was on am vry sry" I should just be let off?
>>30376403
He and his lawyers are idiots. You can't claim self defense if you also claim it was an accident. But it wasn't an accident either. Read between the lines guys. He's charged because he's lying and the state knows it. Those "court documents" describing it as an attack are all going to have been filed by the defense as his new version of what happened after he spoke with a lawyer. There's a reason he first claimed his gun just went off and that's because he knew he was in wrong to begin with.
"Black guy not allowed to defend himself against attack by group of white ex-cops" is great headline for a biased source with an agenda that doesn't mind leaving out facts. Don't take their word as gospel, especially considering this is Clayton County where almost everyone, judge included, is gonna be black.
>>30377570
They are godtier. Other anon is a moron.
>>30377781
proving that it's an ND would change the mens rea, and thus change it from murder to manslaughter.
>>30376403
>http://rollingout.com/2016/06/16/stand-ground-defense-denied-black-man-georgia/
absolutely reprehensible!
this man should not be charged!
i wish i could do something about this.
W8 did he kill one of those faggots? And he claimed ND? That's some stupid shit
Shouldn't have claimed accident
>>30377617
Rednecks are mean to blacks in the south. Its no reason to go out to your car and retrieve a gun.
>>30376924
>The court cannot reconcile the defendants asking
But they can. Well, in some jurisdictions.
The defence is: "The gun went off accidentally...but even if it had been intentional, the assault by four assailants placed the defendant in a position where self-defence by lethal force was justified."
That's the defence that should have been used, maybe it was and the judge was a dick or maybe the lawyer was incompetent.
>>30377801
>great headline for a biased source with an agenda that doesn't mind leaving out facts
You mean the cops?
Isn't Georgia on the level of Bakersfield?
>>30378170
No you can't. Self defense requires an affirmative action. You can't claim accidental self defense.
>>30378186
No. Clayton County is black as the darkest night. They have lost of black nationalists and several pro-black "news" sources. The judge in the case is almost certainly black as well, since all the white judges moved.
>>30377620
Faggot go Fuck a goat you pedophile worshipper
Ps watching Muslims kill eachother is my favorite past time
>>30377801
>>30378539
>The judge in the case is almost certainly black as well, since all the white judges moved.
Get ready to be wrong.
http://www.claytoncountyga.gov/courts/superior-court/chief-judge-albert-b-collier.aspx
>>30376655
>something something institutional racism
True.
>>30376964
>I think the fact that his gun went off accidentally should get his charges dropped.
This too, but it won't because see:
>institutional racism
>>30376989
>nah, if he is getting assaulted by four guys i think that is grounds for lethal force.
His wife was there as well so he was protecting not only himself but another woman.
>>30378668
>fat
>vacant 1,000 yard stare
>blank face looks like homosimpson with nothing going on in his head
This guy looks like a racist/conservative so it makes sense.
It should never be allowed for a negro to justifiably kill a white
regardless of circumstances
Only traitors would disagree
>>30379057
>racist/conservative
>>30379048
>wife
First article says ex-wife.
Second says wife.
That's some consistent reporting.
>>30377990
I wish i could do something about retards believing lies from hard left news sites going "he dindu nuttin"
>>30378668
Fuck he must be one of the last ones in Clayton county then.
>Court documents described Murray as being assaulted by the Nathan Adams, a former police officer, and three of his friends.
There is the reason is his claim of self defense was denied.
You are not allowed to defend yourself from police, be they former or still in service, on or off duty, regardless of whether they are at fault themselves.
>>30379081
This is literally the ideology our legal system is based on. Not an exaggeration. Some people are willing to admit it. The rest pretend it isn't true.
>>30376403
>Shitty defense + white people being racist
way to justice, Georgia
>>30376403
>surprised georgia legal system is run by cunts
>>30379203
This just in, White people can do no wrong!
Fucking shitskins!
>>30382823
fucking this, the only way the pig was gonna get treated like the scum he is is if the cops themselves kicked him out prior for breaking muh thin bloo lyne
