Battle Rifle General /BRG/
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First for cobalt kinetics
>>30372046
I'm really excited for my PTR-91 to arrive. Atlantic is taking forever to ship it though.
How long do they usually take?
>>30372073
Do they make those in .308?
>>30372118
Mousegun only
As far as I know
>>30372190
Still pretty bad ass desu senpai
http://www.livefreearmory.com/product/lf308-hunter/
Thoughts? Seems to be made by a small no-name company. All the reviews I can find on their site and gunbroker say they make a great rifle at a bargain though.
>>30372236
Not a fan personally.
In the market for an SBR mousegun, either going SCAR or KAC.
>>30372100
I just picked up a PTR 91 FR. This thing is solid as fuck. I could probably throw it out of a moving vehicle and it would be fine.
>>30372493
>>30372517
>A2 grip
>Penismod
>That cable management
>"Pistol"
>40 round mag
>No optic
>Anti rotation pins
She's not perfect
>>30372073
ugly and a joke caliber lol
>>30372356
ill wait till at least some no name youtuber reviews them before id drop 1k on a small shop rifle price doesnt seem bad im wondering what they cheaped out on though or actually selling just above cost
>>30372356
poodle
>>30372517
shooter
>>30372515
it would work just as well as it didnt before and after you did that
people in the wrong thread post glossy paint a socks
>>30372550
I like the A2 grip.
Keymod is superior to MLOK simply because it's harder to machine square holes. Also, installation is easier.
The cable management is of course shitty, but it hasn't interfered yet.
"pistol" because over 26 inches, foregrip included
nothing wrong with magpul 40s
my TRS-25 isn't bright enough to use in summer daylight, no one told me that.
Believe it or not, anti-rotation pins are important to me.
>>30372579
I bet you have 20 rounders don't you?
are two 5.56x45 better than one .308 ?
>>30372356
Their splash image doesn't appear to have a forward assist installed...
>>30372517
>>30372627
id rather kill someone with one shot than wound them twice
>>30372493
I mean they are ugly as fuck, but the way it reloads is the cool part. Yeah it's not really a serious use gun, but it would still be awesome for 3 gun or competition use.
>>30372672
I bet you don't even have a 1,000 lumen weapon light.
Meth heads are going to steal your beer at night.
>>30372046
Fine, have the version without Skinker-dinker, then.
>>30372611
Better triggers come with better pins, if your using plain Jane trigger, yeah, cool. VFG on a pistol is illegal. 40 round mags throw the balance off, can take up too much space on gear. Trs25 is trash, mind you the one optic I own that is under $1000 is an aimpoint. Mlok isn't truly square, and you can cast the holes.
She's your baby, you love her. It's honestly not that bad a rig. But calling it perfect, idk. For a budget build its probably as close to as your going to get. I'm looking at dropping $2500 before tax stamps, optics, accessories, etc.
>>30372713
I just felt like busting your balls a little.
>>30372738
trigger is milspec with a trigger job
vfg on pistol over 26 inches is legal afaik
>>30372688
Competition use they shine in, agreed
>>30372611
>my TRS-25 isn't bright enough to use in summer daylight, no one told me that.
Then it is broken or out of battery... I've never had to turn either of mine past 6...
Is 26" fixed or do brakes count?
>>30372632
LOL didnt even notice that. it looks like they forgot to put it in. the other rifles all have them tho.
>>30372769
The tight crotch on my cutoffs already do a fantastic job of that, but I'm sure they appreciate the help.
Reporting in.
>>30372778
Ahh the "firearm" not a "pistol" thing, right. Forgot about that trick.
>>30372808
>wide handguard
>bipod
>steel lower
>carry handle
Well, if there's ever a right way to do a PTR, then I'd say that's it. Nice gun, breh.
>>30372808
except for the rail really ruins any aesthetics it had going on desu >>30372834
im waiting for an hk front but thats it for this hunk of shit
>>30373008
That's just a smidge unfair, I think. I feel like the practicality of the welded rail makes up for its interruption of aesthetics.
>>30372073
Maybe when the space poodles invade.
>>30372100
It took 4 days for mine to arrive after I ordered it.
>>30372515
Pics?
>>30372808
Acknowledged.
>>30373044
if he wanted black and rails he should have got the scar 17
>>30373057
what kind of pie this time?
>>30373044
>thinking someone as disturbed as the FALtranny gives a single fuck about practicality
>>30372808
are...are you me?
>>30373094
>sightmark optic
Is your entire existence centered around baiting people on the internet? What was your upbringing like? Did they keep you under the stairs or something so now you are desperately trying to recoup the lost attention?
>>30373094
Using up the last of this season's rhubarb but didn't have quite enough for a good pie. Fortunately enough raspberries were ripe to make up the difference.
>>30372650
>vfg on a "pistol"
I hear most federal pens have good nutriloaf
>>30373136
My raspberries just bloomed a couple weeks back. They about the size of peas right now
Br master race reporting in
>>30373104
>talking shit without posting your BR
poodle tier fag detected
>>30373130
its an offbrand offbrand ebay optic 15bux
i seriously dont like optics lol
>>30373136
do you like ruck a 100lb pack half the appalachian trail every weekend man?
reminds me of pic related
>>30373165
know your NFA
>>30373198
master race like when hitler made the japs honorary aryans
>>30373260
>i seriously dont like optics lol
So you admit you just dress up and pose then. Your guns are toys. Props.
>>30373260
>>talking shit without posting your BR
I'd rather not waste my time when from your perspective you already have a point on me. Maybe two. But then it's not like I have anything better to do.
So I'm shopping for some kind of ar 308 and am currently looking at these two rifles:
https://armalite.com/shop/ar-10-tactical-16/
and
http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=2386
Anybody have any experience with either? Or anything that I should be wary about with either gun? Maybe there's a better option I'm not aware of. I'm /k/asual still, so try not to bully.
>>30373372
Stop posting the same pic you faggot
>>30373381
I don't have alot.
>personal preference of my personal. style rifles
MR762
FAL
G3
I don't own a M1A but it surely comes in last. My close friend has one and it's impossible to keep the scope zeroed and the ergos are shitty.
Some part of me really, really wants there to be a /brg/ meetup/FALfest/party, just to see how we'd all interact. It'd be interesting. Or violent. Or both.
>>30373136
Eating better than me desu
>>30373365
I've heard nice things about the Armalite rifles, I'd say it's the safer bet for a casual looking for a starting .308 autoloader.
>>30373436
Put the fuckhuge quadrail back on it, the aesthetic of it is ruined by that keymod bullshit.
>>30373372
Reverse shelfmod/10
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw
"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.
It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.
But mostly, I was just terrified.
Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News
>>30373475
The new ones are shipped with the Keymod (actually "HK Mod" which is just a stupid ass backwards keymod).
I actually prefer the looks, Ive always though quadrails look stupid on anything.
>>30373499
Longer handguards avalible?
>>30373499
I think your taste is shit
>>30373288
nigga ive had a gun and been hunting since i was 8 the only optics i like are standard scopes preferably leopolds
i use iron sights and prefer them which is why i like battle rifles, older service rifles
i know you poorfags love to put a psa dot on your bcm upper but pls that doesnt make it not shit k thnkx
>>30373358
why else would you be posting on 4chan
>>30373365
you can do a DYI ar10 that is much better and cheaper than that armalite the second link doesnt work for me but im also retarded so
>>30373372
>>30373436
yo dude WHERES UR OPTICS
i dislike dikmod doe
>>30373462
winter nuggetfest will be in texas i will probably go if its anytime after mid january
>>30373479
funny for a poodle shooter
>>30373519
Yes, but they are also ugly (and expensive)
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/MR762-G28-Free-Floating-Rail-System-Ral-8000-360p17707.htm
How are the lower end DSA FALs? I wouldn't mind getting a PTR but I've been told they don't stand up to the thousands of round as much as a FAL would
>>30373479
>gave me a temporary form of PTSD.
>I was anxious and irritable.
In that case, his writing gives me a temporary form of PTSD.
It's time for a national dialogue about fake journalism control. Not one more article. Think of the children.
>>30373530
>nigga ive...
So you're some fudd's fucked up offspring, got it. Cool too see someone's rifle be as much of a waste of potential as their owner is a waste of oxygen.
>>30373537
Ugly doesn't go far enough
>>30373537
They kept the 90° throw on the selector?
I guess in a world of compromise....
>>30373530
I didn't know that Nuggetfest was coming to Texas. Are there details yet?
>>30373436
>posting an airsoft rifle
>RFB finally shipped, FFL should have it ready by Saturday
>Case of German surplus 7.62 NATO arrives Monday
>Surplus FAL mags already acquired
Am excite. How best to clean the gunk out of these magazines?
>>30373732
Why would you waste money on a RFB
>>30373761
This
>>30373732
Wire wheel if covered in paint and/or racist paint. Simple green and a hand wire brush for the inside
>>30373260
>do you like ruck a 100lb pack half the appalachian trail every weekend man?
My life is basically leg day.
>>30373372
>>30373436
For $4k you shouldn't need a tool to field strip.
>>30373462
>Or both.
Jousting on dirtbikes until our rifles break. Last one functioning is best girl.
>Eating better than me desu
Been eating TOO well as of late. Cooking is just too much fun tho.
>>30373761
Why do you pay men to fuck you in the ass when there are plenty of recently release felons who will do it for free?
>>30373541
just change out the rear sight and if you want a carry handle you are a little bit shit out of luck
with hk clones you gotta check the gap in the bad way
>>30373582
yeah basically but my guns i do what i want
>>30373695
you just got them
>>30373732
this >>30373761
post pics though
and where did you get the mags
>>30373794
i laughed
>>30372550
Not a pistol retard.
>>30373530
Are you going to the one in October? It would be strange for me to meet you IRL after I've talked so much shit over 4chan. I would probably say something that would offend you and it would escalate to a yelling match that would escalate to a shoving match that would escalate to the final showdown: 5.56 vs .308
>>30372793
Over 26" in the firing position your fine with that build
>>30374074
If you read on he went on to qualify the length shithead.
Lemme guess, your a PTR owner.
Too poor to read on.
Fucking assholes like you are why we can't have nice things.
>>30372793
unless theyre pinned and welded, muzzle devices dont count in OAL
Got a bayonet in for my century. The ring is a bit loose around the muzzle brake. Anything I can do besides put a new brake on it?
>>30374143
this guys right
if that guns a 10.5 it will be just under 26 over all at 25.something without the break
move the brace back
if youve got an 11.5 your fine
>>30374099
what are you gonna do talk shit on my fal or call me a fag while you are holding an ar15 composed of a spike two dick lwoer and a bcm upper maybe some larue parts chambered in poodle shoot? lol
naw seriously though if you are cute you can sleep in my tent and ill let you hold my FAL and wear the dress
>>30374155
i very strongly dislike those rails, covers, and brake but pls stab something stabbable with the bayonet
>>30374205
I like the rails. Im use to having a light and laser. Pretty good deal from combat hunting. $50 plus $20 priority shipping though. Covers could be better. Definitely gives a better grip and throws some weight to the front.
>>30374205
>stab something stabbable
Sometimes I'll hang a potato on a string from the ceiling in my garage and practice bayonet drills on it with my K31. Most fun I've ever had for $0.17.
>>30373479
>when you're almost done reading for the first time and you realize it isnt an article from The Onion
>>30374205
which PTR is this? it doesn't have the corrugation bends that all of their models have, even the two that have steel receivers.
>>30374440
>which PTR
Not a PTR, but a FA91. Even worse.
>>30374440
not a ptr. some off brand irrc
>>30374462
>>30374471
so it's just a shitpost?
>>30373530
>>30373365 here
Looks like the website is having problems. Here's a shot of the gun's specs. Price is pretty good but that doesn't matter if it's a piece of shit.
>>30374440
An FA91
C A S T A L U M I N U M
>>30374482
Yes
Anyone own a 7.62x54r Vepr? I'm getting one (23", standard furniture, thread protector removed) and I am a bit curious to how everyone else sets up theirs. I was thinking of putting a DTK-2 muzzle brake on the front with the polymer PSL looking furniture in pic related.
>>30374483
>Dpms pattern receiver cuts
>Not superior KAC
Pass.
Though I may drive over to their showroom and fondle it.
>>30374584
Not much slavshit in /brg/ generally
>>30374663
What's the matter with the DPMS pattern cuts vs KAC?
>>30373859
like this
>>30374317
buy one of these type c fn or something they are amazing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FAL-Type-C-Nato-7-62-Knife-Blade-Bayonet-Socket-Type-Belgium-With-Sheath-LOOK-/142031193480?hash=item2111b80588:g:K1YAAOSw-4BXaA0G
>>30374440
its all hk clones fampai
>>30374482
buyer beware is ptrs moto
>>30374483
yeah i would stay far and clear till you get at least some casual review maybe even one serious shill one
>>30374584
dat no brake lol
>>30374673
because there arent very many slavshit BRs they are p much all DMRs
>>30373702
/asp/ here
Not an airsoft gun. Legit MR762.
He had a thread on here about two weeks back on it, opening the box and showing us the rifle.
>>30373761
>waste
The vast majority of negative feedback on the RFB comes from people who go >lol Kel-Tec and never handled the firearm or, at most, fingerfucked one at their LGS. It's a neat little package with a big bark.
>>30373940
>where did you get the mags
Numrich Gun Parts Corporation. They weren't cheap, but that's the reality of surplus FAL mags now.
Lewds.
>>30374673
Slavs didn't really get onto the whole BR hype train like NATO did, they just kinda went straight to doggie diddlers.
>>30374716
I know you have one, how durable is it? Looks a tad flimsier than my Swiss short sword.
>>30374703
nothing, queers just being artfags
>>30372834
Thanks anon! Sorry for my absence. I was attempting to communicate with my wireless carrier. Probably going to switch.
>>30373124
I don't know. Are you in north Mississippi drinking E. H. Taylor? If you you aren't, I still like your taste.
>>30374768
great cooking and stabbing too
>>30374205
"Look mom, I posted it again."
>>30373940
That is a C308. Haven't heard of slamfires from a PTR. Also,
>Having a gas system
>Ever
Wish FNH sold the FNAR competition in a slightly lighter black synthetic stock.
>>30375080
all about them pistons son
>>30375095
what hellhole ban state do people who buy FNARs live in?
Bumping again. Maybe post lewds?
>>30375134
Do it.
>>30375134
show me the bolt gap girl
Am I starting off OK? Parts are slowly coming in.
C-can I join the club guys?
1/?
>>30375248
forgot pic..
What are the options to mount a scope on a FAL that don't require a railed dust cover? I don't like the looks of rails, and am hoping for something that mounts directly to the dust cover.
I know of the L2A2 SUIT, but does that work on a metric FAL? Either way, I'm looking for more options. Hopefully you guys can help.
>>30375269
Definitely.
>>30375285
I was looking for this dude's post in this thread.
>>30363579
I thought you always left a post in /brg/! many disappoint.
>>30375269
What is it? It looks real nice
2/3
>>30375218
the tension screw thing is dumb to me but what are you going for with your build?
>>30375269
yes
>>30375285
there are like welded rings to dust dovers with nigger rigged tension setups i saw one on fal files a year ago but the bubbadness scared me off from buying it
>>30375325
its an AG42 psot WWII swedish BR
>>30375409
>there are like welded rings to dust dovers with nigger rigged tension setups i saw one on fal files a year ago but the bubbadness scared me off from buying it
The reason I don't just want a railed dust cover is because I don't think it looks good. What you just talked about seems like it'd be worse...
I'm stuck between either buying a FDE Scar 17 or black Scar 17. Which one should I get?
>>30375452
I'd say FDE. It's more of a classic look. Obviously personal preference.
>>30375468
Alright, I'll get a FDE one than.
3/4
I'm not sure how socially acceptable this is.
>>30375479
Your mom lets you have TWO battle rifles?
Also I just closed my porn tab. This'll do.
>>30373094
bern in hell geyboi
>>30375409
going for a general purpose build. Eventually I'd like to take a boar with it at least.
>18 inch barrel
>16 inch handguard
>~8.5 lbs dry weight
>>30372073
This is not a battle rifle you fuck. Get out of here with your .223 poodle shooter you middle of the road cartridge lover.
>>30372517
What dont you understand about not being welcome in the BR club with your fuckin ar 15s? 20", 16", 10", a1, a2, m4, nobody gives a fuck about your poodle shooter outside of ar general you fags. Get an ar platform in .308 shoot it then come talk to us.
>>30375497
Empi isn't a battle though. Her older sister, Jiisuri, is.
>>30372793
Go to ARgeneral you clueless fuck
>>30375611
Oh I couldn't tell.... mixed race strip show.... Well I do already have my pants down...
>>30373044
You didn't buy an 80's designed cheap clone rifle with no modularity for practicality nigger get real.
You wanted the look, which is cool. The rail ruins the look though get over it. You don't even have a paddle mag release bigger - really.
My bae <3
>>30375676
Well, if your pants are already down...
>>30372808
Almost perfect mang. But I find your lack of paddle mag release disturbing.
>>30373136
Tiny arms
Big fucking legs.
You're gyming right brotha.
>>30375709
Before and after playing dress up.
Where do I find a garage built FAL for a decent price?
>>30372579
ha.some people just can't be satisfied.
also, you're a tremendous faggot.
>>30372713
I feel like there are only ~ 5 people that post on /k/.
>>30375409
>post WWII
No. It was first fielded in 42, hence the AG42
>>30375973
there were more but they got yelled at for posting in the wrong thread...
>>30375973
Kilo 1 reporting in.
>>30375973
Well, there are probably only like 10 BRs that ever get posted in /brg/, so you're kinda right.
>>30375999
Its a battle rifle thread fampai.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle
I have a question, would a battle rifle be better for your average person over assault weapons?
>>30376082 gotta be a pretty big guy for these rifles
For >>30376098
>>30376082
Not for everyone. These rifles are as mean as they come. Shooter must be strong and able to handle recoil.
The love of my life. Why would you need any other battle rifle? This thing is gorgeous
>>30376082
It's partially personal preference. Partially dick size (you can't shoot a mean ass 7.62 NATO unless you got an above average want). And partially strategy.
I, for one, have friends with no magazine sharing ability (for rifles) among us. One has an AK, the ather has an AR-15. Therefore, I needed to have the DMR amongst us, so I chose an AR10.
Also, I believe that if you're forced to have a semi-auto, you might as well have a large caliber, but a gun is better than no gun.
>>30376082
Hell no.
I love them to death, but they're typically heavier, have limited capacity, have more stout recoil, the list goes on. For most -but obviously not all- people, those are adequate reasons to abandon 7.62x51 for a poodle shooter.
Mark 20 when
>>30376082
If those xc runners in Rhodesia could do it, I would hope most would be able to handle it.
>>30375753
In due time, anon. I'm paying to have one installed the right way. Just a few more projects I have to wrap up first...
>>30376303
they had motivation
>>30376211
As a masochist, I sometimes forget about how bad the recoil is on battle rifles compared to AR's.... He's probably right, but battle rifles are cooler. And they um.... have more... um... bigger. bigger boom boom. bigger bullet thingy. more stuff stuff. if you want a hole in paper thats bigger, you get a bigger bullet.
Seriously, 5.56 will do fine. 7.62 might have some better range, but it really is a lot more difficult to keep on target, and the ammo is obviously heavier. As I said her
>>30376196
It's important to have a battle rifle fit in and around assault rifles, IMO.
>>30372517
FULL-SIZED CARTRIDGES ONLY
>>30376303
This reminds me of another great reason to have a battle rifle over an intermediate cartridge.
(sorry for long link)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwi_lr2vwr3NAhVJ7oMKHdYsC-QQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsmallwarsjournal.com%2Fdocuments%2Frhodesian-cover-or-drake-shooting.pdf&usg=AFQjCNF9ngfmoK5oUEI8NvIAeJJ7kJHzPQ&cad=rja
Basically back in the Rhodesian War, the main strategy was to run through the jungle and shoot anywhere where a rebel might be hiding. This works much better for a full sized cartridge than a wimpy poodle shooter. (it also doesn't work very well unless there's a high likelihood of unwanteds behind the cover and a very low likelihood of innocents)
>>30376286
Someday... probably right before President Clinton bans all guns.
>>30373479
if the ar15 scares him, then the ar10 would probably turn him into a sobbing mess. It's like going from a 22lr to a +p 357 magnum.
>>30376303
There is no excuse for not being able to handle BR recoil after seing pics of these skeletor selous scouts.
Lol'd at xc runners kek
>>30376082
For any serious use a battle rifle is shit. They are not particularly accurate which limits their effective range to that of an assault rifle (around 400 yards). Inside of that range an assault rifle will have plenty of power to reliably kill a human, and will also be a lot more mobile and quicker due to the lighter weight and recoil, and oh yeah they also hold 30 rounds. For anything past the effective range of a battle rifle or assault rifle you will want a scoped rifle purpose built for accuracy. That being said battle rifles are fun as fuck to shoot, and are certainly fun range toys
>>30376082
Like everything, it depends on the application. 7.62 NATO is a killer, accurate and barrier-defeating. Unfortunately, the amount of barrel it needs to definitively outclass 7.62x39 means these battle rifles are heavier and a little more unwieldy indoors. Additionally, as these rifles have gone out of favor with the military, they aren't compatible with popular attachment methods used by white and IR lights or even scopes and red dots.
>>30376361
That was an interesting read!
>>30375218
Ya Dun good kid
>>30374703
KAC is stronger, more consistent
This means more accurate
>>30375452
neither if its a shitty 16s
also nice blurring the price out because youd get made fun of for paying 3.1k for a 16s
>>30375497
are you retired?
>>30375775
both those are dress up ;)
>>30376019
tfw when i own 3 of them
>>30376082
yeah if they arent a pussy
>>30376286
never lol
>>30377775
yeah but then he also isnt a KAC cuck
>>30372672
Faggot, you disgrace the flags around you.
>>30376487
My battle rifle does moa.
5.56 will not fragment passed 300yds in ideal conditions.
I have a good brake and heavy bcg, recoil is very minor
Magazine capacity on a BR can be upped by getting larger capacity magazines.
>>30376552
x51 from an 8" barrel is doing the same speed as x39 is from a 16"
>>30376552
>not compatible with attachment methods
I'll take 'DSA' for $400, Alex.
>>30378669
Vltor makes a better solution
>>30378712
Ooh, that's pretty. The point stands though that it aint hard to tacticool the shit out of an FAL. Or an M1A or PTR for that matter.
>>30374584
I got one of the ones from atlantic firearms with the svd furniture. Put a posp 8x on it. Pretty fun shooter, but they need to hurry up with those 15 round mags already.
>>30376479
>LMT
>Nightforce
>Atlas
To SBR my 17 or not...
>>30375775
Non-barrel mounted bipod will be a lot better off for you anyway.
Who was the tripfag who had one of these? I'm looking for one of these Zeiss scopes badly.
>>30380902
Non free floated handguards
It will still have a poi shift
>>30380921
The FAL handguard isn't free float like the HK 91 series? Didn't know that.
>>30380949
Some aftermarket ones do. But by hand large, no. Handguard bolts onto the gas block.
>>30373479
(((gersh kuntzman))) thinks guns are loud scary and just cant even???
>>30378669
Funny that you mention $400 because that's almost how much it costs to slap rails on an FAL.
"As compatible as an AK" hasn't been an acceptable standard since the introduction of the flat-top AR.
>>30378058
Oh, and lol no, it's closer to 10"-12" and roughly a 250 fps difference at 16". Not negligible, but worth considering for the additionally capacity and ease of recoil of 7.62x39.
>>30381214
Vltor is $300
DSA is like $175
El cheapo are like $80
>>30381252
Got some sources to cite?
Because the mv of a 13" .308 is the same velocity that the round will have at 100m fired from a 16" bbl. To be clear I'm talking about 175gr
I got a CETME-C kit from Apex on sale for 120$
Figured I'd start that since I finished my CETME-L
Who has the cheapest G3/CETME Barrels and Receivers?
>>30378030
gb2 /cuteboys/ fag
>>30378876
but you shouldnt
>>30380917
his is the ptr91 that is rattle canned some shade of fde but the safety markings were tapped off
>>30380902
>>30380921
>>30380983
when you show me the difference on a target you are hitting with match grade ammo out of your gun
>>30381443
i get around
>>30381336
For dustcover/receiver and forend? DSA's set is just over $300.
>>30381352
lol wut? Heavy .308 bullets have very comparable muzzle velocities to 120ish gr 7.62x39 from a 16" barrel. What fantasy world do you live in?
>>30381498
So your comparing apples to oranges. Have to equalize the bullet weights.
>>30381498
I was pricing handguards alone.
>>30381252
Like .308 has much recoil.
>>30381541
No, I wasn't, you fuckwit. I was initially comparing surplus x39 (124 gr) with surplus x51 (147 gr) that have approx. a 250 fps difference at the muzzle from 16" and have comparable muzzle velocities when x51 is shot from a 10"-12" barrel. >>30381352 started blabbering about 175 gr while being laughably incorrect about how fast those heavy bullets actually go.
The point was, the shorter you go with a x51 barrel, the more you should consider x39.
>>30381498
>>30381541
>>30381648
You should be talking about energy, not velocity dipshits.
>>30381675
>thinking velocity isn't what counts
Do you even physics bro? Bullet weights are only relevant to retaining velocity over time since a heavier bullet is almost always a more "slippery" bullet in flight.
Am I relevant?
>>30381740
yes, wish they would tweek that design a bit to take 308 pmags though.
>>30381785
You're in /brg/. Quite being poor.
>>30381785
God i'd cum at the chance, I have to say the mag situation with this rifle is probably the only downside i've seen to it so far.
>>30381740
drywall screws and reject pmag plastic are always relevant
May my dog and I play?
>>30381727
You're talking about the correlation between bullet weight and ballistic coefficient. As weight goes up, the BC generally improves IF you're talking about the same bore diameter.
But BC is literally only relevant to retaining energy at range. Velocity only matters insomuch as it contributes energy. Drop can be compensated for rather easily, which is why people can shoot x51 at 1000+ yards even though it drops like a rock.
And if you're that worried about BC in the first place you're better off with x51 because it allows for a much greater range of projectile length and there are more bullet options.
None of this shit even becomes relevant until 300m+ anyway, and if you're shooting at those ranges you shouldn't even be considering a 7.62x39.
>>30381868
>He actually bought one.
>The absolute madman.
Why, a million times why?
>>30381868
does it actually shoot like a BAR ive never even got to finger fuck one of those let alone shoot one
but dat fuddy ought six
do you reload or just hate the cost of dumping mags?
>>30381868
>>30381920
>>30381937
So what exactly is it?
>>30381801
Its less about being poor, more about DSA mags being complete shit and surplus being hard as fuck to find
>>30381963
It's a new production BAR with rails and fun things.
>>30381963
http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/hcar
hope you like larry snickers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD31v5Rziag
>>30381970
ive used a bunch of peoples dsa mags and i havent experienced this meme at all
>>30381920
Needed a good nilgai gun
>>30381937
It shoots like a dream no worse that a hot loaded ar10, but it is FUCK EVERYONE EVERYWHERE LOUD! I reload, and my senpai all shoot 30fud6 so i have more brass then loaded bullets all the time.
H-here I go...
>>30382017
Hey I have that same scale, but I use it for weighing drugs.
Works great.
>>30382017
are you the guy that has that plastic globe looking thing on his G3 red dot?
Because I think that fucking thing is giving me eye cancer from seeing it every day.
>>30382052
No, I'm the poorfag with the ARMS mount and vortex scope.
>>30382017
Good luck, anon! We all believe in you!
>>30382072
52 shades of german green
>>30376487
read that link above.
The Rhoadies liked to "kill" cover by firing low (kicking up rocks and skipping rounds through cover) and they would shoot through tree trunks too.
7.62 long would zip through the tree trunks where 7.62 short would not. Obviously a poodle shooter wouldn't zip through a hot elephant turd.
I'll take the weight penalty and fewer rounds for the ability to shoot through cover.
>>30381993
luck I guess, I've gone through 3 that had one fault or another that would cause issues. Moses mags though...100% everytime
>>30382052
Ha ha!
Intraocular melanoma.
>>30372046
>It's another outdated rifles with no ideal place in the modern world thread.
Even bolt actions are more relevant. Why do you cling to the past? Battle rifles belong in the bin with SMGs, trench shotguns, and bolt action carbines.
>Pistols
>SBRs
>"Assault Rifles"
>DMRs
>Long range precision bolt actions.
These are the only relevant classes of firearm in 2016. Anything else is either for nostalgia, for fun, or sub optimal.
>>30382347
which of these is going to help you pretend operate the best?
>>30382365
>Pretend to operate.
Obviously a battle rifle is best for this.
>>30381648
If your going so short on a barrel in .308, you should consider x39 for even shittier ballistics?
>>30382347
If you mean for military use, your kind of correct. But your forgetting belt fed toys, grenade launchers, light mortars. But pistols aren't relevant for military use.
But I'm not in the military.
>>30382293
I'm surprised he's kvetching about Baker Boy/Weaver Man, other people here shitpost their own (more racist/less aesthetic) rifles with far greater frequency.
>>30382347
I mean, militaries keep buying them. Thats gotta count for something.
>>30381993
I've had to take a dremel to all of mine recently. Maybe it's an IMBEL thing?
>>30382634
Which third world military are you referring to?
>>30382691
>>30382691
Belgium, America, Germany, you know. The usual suspects. They aren't the primary service rifles anymore, but they still fill necessary roles.
Have a faaru-chan. Maybe it'll make you less mad.
>>30382347
Battle rifles are handy for those of us who aren't in a military, but still want to have the capability to take down man sized targets within 300m and behind cover. Yes that is niche. Yes, you can avoid posting in threads about things you don't like.
Also SMGs are good for security detail (i.e. VIP protection)
>>30373094
Has SCAR, puts $20 optic on it
>>30382736
Subcarbines are better than smgs for that
Best BR ever
>>30374205
When is nuggetfest coming to texas?
>>30382802
Said no armorer ever
>>30382811
They should
>>30382381
i pretend oper8 harder than you ever will
>>30382757
got em
>>30382807
winter so like mid jan to mid feb is around when that happens
>>30382802
i want one but lol good luck finding one
>>30382851
Is it that difficult to get one in the US ?
>>30382851
Only $4000
>>30382851
Lame, probably won't be in Texas then
>>30382881
if you do find them they cost a ton for what they are
parts kits are like 1400-1700
one small company made recievers for a while but i think they went out of business
>>30382892
cheaper than i expected unless someone is putting these out of a shop in any number
>>30372517
>What is battle rifle?
>>30382772
So basically you're just splitting hairs. Good to know.
>>30383435
Handgun exhibit rather dismal terminal ballistics
Carbine rounds are better suited. And since 9mm rounds essentially weigh the same as 5.56 rounds your not sacrificing there either.
Should I mount a PVS-4 or Z-51 scope on my PTR?
>>30384065
Shit nvg on a shit br?
Sure
Should I mount a PVS-4 or Z-51 on my PTR?
>>30384075
They seem alright.
This is coming from someone who has only used the 1PN34.
>>30384194
It's a 4lb gen 2 optic
Probably used and not refurbished.
Just get a PVS14, mount it on a helmet on your non dominant eye and use a red dot
>>30384523
The one I'm looking at (Z-51) is 2+, refurbished, brand new tubes and mount installed.
I'm looking at the PVS-4 as well, was watching a video of it and its very pretty, and there are even enhancements to bring it to gen 3.
I kind of have a hardon for early night vision scopes.
>>30384564
Go clip on at that size
>not gonna have the money for a rifle until after the 4th.
>Atlantic firearms isn't taking orders because they're so swamped
>everyone is freaking out over gun grabbers
I'm gonna be able to buy my PTR, right guys?
>>30384998
Yeah, if anything else check local stores. I managed to grab mine on the 17th from atlantic. Will likely arrive tomorrow.
>>30384998
You could always order from PTR directly. That's what I did. It took a little longer and it was a bit more expensive but I had no idea when Atlantic was going to start selling the GI models without the rail and it's nice to support a more local company.
