Could Warhammer 40k Weapons/Armours/Vehicles be effective today? Where not going to count the Tau, Any Xeno or Daemons. Only Imperium Of Man and Chapters of the Astartes. Also where not counting Magic, Sourcery, or the Primarchs.
>>30331680
>>30331680
A spacemarine legion would probably wipe the Islamist Nation off the globe.
If they were supported by a naval attachment you could probably conquer a couple previous super powers. and enforce a hellish regime.
>>30331680
I always wondered this too. For example the Death Korps Of Kreig probably have the most realistc of modern day tools besides the basic Imperial guards as their armour is heavily German WWI and WWII based. Which again makes is extremly effective. But in terms of modern day. Even 100,000 Death Crops probably couldnt even beat the United States Armed Forces
>>30331680
You mean would they work with today's technology or would they work against today's technology? The answer is no in either case anyway.
>>30331697
But which time are we talking about. Current Imperium where the Emporer is held as a Devine God. Or Before the Horus Heresy where he was regarded as a Leader. Because for the Current Time in 40k they would wipe then Islams for Heresy against the emperor. For Horuses time they would instead teach them to follow science and truth, not blind religion.
>>30331680
the imperial navy because it is space based could literally hold the world hostage/destroy the world at will. las guns would be fairly effective against modern body armor and tactics. bolters while having a devastating effect are only single focus weapons and therefore can only have a limited effect on a battle. however its the area of tanks and mechanized units that the imperium falls down. the high profile of leman russ tanks makes them huge targets will low side armor. overall units equipped solely with weapons from 40k would be taken out by aerial units and long range missiles.
>>30331710
Just I mean could it be Realistic or useful in todays military.
>>30331710
Are You Saying the Emporers Weapons are Inferior?! HERESY!
>>30331739
similarly the tactics demonstrated in the fluff of 40k demonstrated tactical acumen from ww1 and ww2. the tactics and strategy of 40k it stuck in mass fighting and army movements rather than small unit and covert strategic ops like modern forces.
>>30331751
No, idiot.
>>30331769
Is someone butthurt?
>>30331739
>overall units equipped solely with weapons from 40k would be taken out by aerial units and long range missiles.
Hardly. Void shields and SAMs are very notable in 40k, let alone that the Imperium has vastly less care about throwing around WMDs. Vortex missiles specifically.
>bolters while having a devastating effect are only single focus weapons and therefore can only have a limited effect on a battle.
They don't get used in "battles" as such, Space Marines are surgical strike units. They'd be drop podding into the White House, Pentagon, Kremlin, on top of ICBM bases, all sorts of beheading tactics. They deploy where they want to deploy, not in pitched battles.
>>30331766
>similarly the tactics demonstrated in the fluff of 40k demonstrated tactical acumen from ww1 and ww2. the tactics and strategy of 40k it stuck in mass fighting and army movements rather than small unit and covert strategic ops like modern forces.
Not really, thats just the most prevelant in the lore, but even the Guard has modern tactics in the more modern lore, they're vastly less "WW1" than they used to be, especially since Abnett got ahold of the lore. It's pretty much down to which Regiment you're talking about. Death Korps and Valhallans are straight up WW1/WW2, but Cadians and especially Elysians for example are vastly more modern styled.
>can the Mary Sue marines be effective today.
yes
The guard will very wildly in equipment and training. but a las gun is still better than an AR.
Besides. it doesn't matter how effective you are when you can afford to lose a million men in a single battle.
>>30331751
Powered armor is already possible. It's just expensive and stuck in development hell because it's not needed. Bolters are just plain sub-optimal. If you wanted a super-duper small arm to go with power armor AP-HE tipped with water would be one of the worst ways to go about it.
>>30331805
fair enough the tactics do vary but the fact that there are those who still practice war in those ways means that their weapons are designed for those ways to some degree. as to your point about void sheilds if you look into the lore very few things actually have void shields, titans, space ships, etc. only huge or rare things are equipped with them. the average infantry unit or tanks unit doesn't have anything of the sort. and while yes some space marine chapters do use drop pods and surgical strikes. open battle and frontal attacks are far more commonly used. when i mentioned bolters i was thinking more of the infantry crew served variants.
>>30331869
>development hell
Battery technology is the biggest issue.
>>30331805
>Imperium has vastly less care about throwing around WMDs.
that is true and would up their victory odds significantly
>>30331884
Just stick a 50cc motor on it like they already do. Besides, the current specifications are vastly over what would be needed for slapping some plate on it, since it's meant to be a power loader.
>>30331879
Skitarri use them in the field extremely commonly. On the tabletop they're rarely if ever seen, but in the lore the Mechanicus are fucking everywhere with their technoshit.
It's like judging Earth by the standards of only the Arabs to ignore that they exist.
>>30331766
>What is Raven Guard nigga?
>What is Alpha Legion?
>>30332000
Mechanicus armies are extremely rare and require the dedicated resources of a forge world to field. Also it was only until recently Skitarii were anything but lobotomized Imperial Guard equivalents more akin to servitors than actual fighting forces. They still wear red, making them possibly the least stealthy army in the entire setting, and that's saying something.
>>30332039
>while yes some space marine chapters do use drop pods and surgical strikes. open battle and frontal attacks are far more commonly used.
>>30332046
>Mechanicus armies are extremely rare
Confirmed for knowing nothing about the lore.
They're the second largest war faction in the entire Imperial forces. So much so that Imperium vs Mechanicus is literally the nightmare scenario if their cooperation ever broke down.
>Could literally bagillions of men who have a religious hatred for anything that looks slightly different be effective?
By the emperor I smell a heretic
>>30332412
>Confirmed for knowing nothing about the lore.
ok you are showing your own lack of knowledge here. mechanicus armies are rare. small forces or attachments to other large units are more common but a full on army is extremely rare. the nite mare scenario is mostly because the mechanicus controls all knowledge and production of anything mechanical and electronic. without them the imperium would fall apart unable to repair anything or build new tech not because of their numbers.
>>30331869
>Bolters are just plain sub-optimal. If you wanted a super-duper small arm
75 caliber is small arms?
>>30331680
Why would it not be? You do realize 40k is the universe where smg sized automatic rpg's are considered normal and laser weapons that boil/explode chunks oujt of people is considered "weak" right? Also armor that is equivalent to wearing a tank is still nimble enough to allow someone to do cqc effectively.
