I'm playing with the idea of picking up a Mini 14 Ranch Rifle. The only issue is I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on them, can you gents give me some legit opinions of the rifle?
The "lol inaccurate" meme was about the older version of the Mini-14. Anything built in the last decade should be fine.
>>30323462
That seems to be the major knock against it
>>30323399
Probably functions fine, it's just overpriced for what it is. AR's are objectively better and cheaper, same with mags, accessories, etc.
>>30323534
It is a little pricy but it definitely gives off a less threatening look compared to an AR
I want one too. I hear however the sights fly off a lot and get loose. I hear they are difficult to adjust as well.
>>30323607
This is another issue I've heard, some people say the sights come loose easily
>>30323399
You the same guy that asked whether to get that or a PTR91 in that other thread?
>>30323713
Nope not that guy
>>30323713
No, that was me
I've been lurking these threads too
>>30323399
You'll no doubt see at least one tard come to this thread and proclaim that the Mini-14 can't hit the broad side of a barn because he thinks all Mini-14s are 180 series rifles.
>>30323534
Depends on what you're looking at.
A Colt AR would cost about the same and be about as good, but then, Colt ARs are overpriced.
>>30323607
I haven't actually heard about this
>>30323399
It is quite ok. I recommend getting the accustrut and only use factory mags. The only downsjde i had was the mag availability.
>>30323747
Actually it was me man. Unless all three of us are the same. I am nj man not op of this thead.
>>30324592
Oh well I'm from CA and made a similar thread probably 10 days ago and got the same recommendation
>>30323399
>buying Ruger anything other than a 10/22
Just buy an AR ffs.
>>30324853
>>buying Ruger anything other than a 10/22
I take it you've never tried a No.1 or one of their revolvers in some stupid huge caliber with crazy handloads.
God I love the PTR91 look and the idea of a 308 rifle.
But every time I watch more videos of people shooting their mini 14 rifles I just get excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2m7aF60GD8
Anyone have a good ptr video to sway me back. My brain and /k/ says no but my gun boner says yes.
>>30324853
Fuck you, they make sweet wheelguns and boltguns.
>>30328343
The Mini-14 will be significantly cheaper to shoot and kill people and small animals just as dead. Do you need a rifle that can chew through people, cinderblocks, deer, and black bears? Get the PTR. Are you just going to be taking it to the range and using it for HD or a truck gun? Get the Mini-14.
>>30328865
>black bears
Disregarding the fact that blackbears are scaredy cunts who run from loud noises, a .223 should be able to take a black bear.
Not OP.
I've handled a mini-14 at a LGS.
Nothing I mean nothing felt so natural and pointed so well in my hands before.
Any way to make an AR or AK point like that?
Or is this a good reason to pick up a Mini-14
>>30323399
They're fucking awesome for deer guns and pig guns. If you're concerned about accuracy past 200 yards you already think you will somehow be able to accurately shoot at 300 yards, and if you can do that you're either shitposting or looking for semiauto recommendations for people that can't shoot as well as you do.
Somebody know where I could buy an accu-strut for my mini 14 in Yurop ?
I love the look it gives
>>30323399
Anders got the high score with one, so it can't be that bad.
>>30323399
Amazing and accurate.
Don't listen to any of the naysayers, since most of them are talking about the old straight barreled ones.
You should be fine as long as you buy a BRAND NEW one. The tapered barrels that are now stock make all the difference, plus if you ever add an accu strut it'll make it that much better.
>>30330096
You should be able to order one online, try to see if you can get a gunsmith to order one for you if it seems tricky with Euro laws?
>>30330107
>shoots a few socialists as if they don't grow back
>vastly changes the climate for firearms owners in scandinavia (largely for the worse)
>now jerks off in his prison cell all day
You faggots like you lionize him so much I'll never get.
>>30330224
>try to see if you can get a gunsmith to order one for you if it seems tricky with Euro laws?
Parts that aren't essential compnents to a gun can be bought freely, but I can't find a seller that ship to Europe.
I'm a bit desesperate as even brownells Europe don't seems to sell accu-struts
>>30330219
What kind of optic are you using?
>>30323399
What it will do it eject the brass into orbit. My friend who owns it had a problem hitting people 2 lanes over at the range.
I've had no problem with mine running just steel ammo threw it. I bought it from Walmart about 2 months ago for 780 after tax. Everyone around here was selling them for around 1k. It's nice and basically a mini garand only thing that sucks is mags are $$$
>>30323399
Mini-14s are garbage and if this thread were made a few months ago, or even worse a year ago, then this thread would be full of people shitting on you.
They're more expensive than an AR.
They're less customizable than an AR.
They're less accurate and MUCH less reliable than an AR, not to mention proprietary mags instead of using STANAGs.
There is NO reason to get one aside from aesthetics and feel.
>>30331356
What if you already have an AR and want something different in 223.?
>>30331499
SU-16
>>30323399
This guy really liked it, so I think you should go for it
>>30331356
Fag
>>30331251
Have you told your friend drinking and shooting don't mix?
>>30331356
No.
No, you can find AR prices range all over the goddamn place. New Mini-14s are as good quality as equivalent cost ARs.
Yes.
No, NO and yes. But the last point will cost you $5 more roughly the same cost as AK mags usually go for.
>Pick related
>>30331532
>>30331499
>>30331356
>says mini is garbage
>suggests kelkek
>>30331356
>proprietary mags
Who are you, the fucking Richard M. Stallman of /k/? I guess there's a reason GNU rearranges to GUN
>>30323534
I believe the word you were looking for was subjectively.
My range goes out to 50-100 yards.
Would this be a fun rifle to shoot paper and maybe clay pigeons with?
I feel like buying a full rifle caliber just to plink at paper at 50 yards is kind of a waste.
>>30324823
No bullet button with a mini 14 my friend.
>>30331718
Absolutely. If you want a garand action in a modern caliber it's the gun to get
>>30323399
I had one and liked it, but I didn't like it enough. Got it as an "AR-15 alternative" but I ended up trading it 1:1 for a Windham Weaponry AR-15 and I'm liking the AR so much more.
>>30331573
I didn't suggest the kel-tec POS
>>30331565
A basic bitch AR is infinitely more customizable and cheaper than a basic bitch mini-14. Minis go for around $700, where if you're a jew you can build an AR for around $400 or $350 if you're a turbo jew and wait for shit to go on sale. An AR in the $700 price range will shit all over a Mini14
>>30331575
Proprietary mags mean if SHTF you're not going to be able to use STANAGs, which literally everything relevant in .223 uses. They're also dirt fucking cheap and work well.
Friendly reminder that a Mini14 cannot stand up to getting any dirt on it whatsoever and will jam up repeatedly.
Ive been toying with the idea over an AR as well.
I like the AR okay and it is a grwat system but they arent my cup of tea.
Im a bit of a traditionalist so despite amy minor shortcomings im leaning toward the mini personally
I got mine back in October, and around the same time 2 friend of mine got ARs for about the same price, $750. The 3 of us have been shooting together on private propeety atleast once a month since. So we've all put atleast 1000rds through each. I have run all tula 55gr 223.
I can say that my mini has had zero malfunctions. I can not say that for the other 2 rifles.
With enough money you can build this,
>>30333249
Clearly has not fired a cheap AR and a mini-14.
Has anyone else had issues with their mini 14 not extracting rounds from the chamber? I can't get 20 rounds through mine without at least a few failures to extract.
>>30331356
>They're less accurate
An AR of comparable price should have a comparable MOA.
>>30331532
The SU-16 is literally a poorfag gun, the appeal is that it's cheap, it's nowhere near as good as a current Mini-14, if you can afford a Mini-14, a SU-16 is a waste of your time
>>30333249
>Proprietary mags mean if SHTF you're not going to be able to use STANAGs
Calm down Captain Commando, not everyone bases their firearms purchases on The End Of Days
>>30334908
This. Haven't heard anything good about the SU-16
I sold my AR to buy one. Don't regret doing that.
>>30334884
How hard is adjusting sights?
Are techsights required?
Can this gun be loaded from top like SKS or Garand?
>>30337689
It's possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyiX8QaPu54
Literally only good for ban states; and even then you can buy an ares scr. Don't buy one.
>>30337689
I just realized that if the Mini Thirty shot a slightly longer cartridge (7.62x51 instead of 7.62x39) it would be a classic scout rifle.
>forward rails for reflex sights or scout scopes
>can feed from mags or stripperclips
>7.62mm boolits
>right size and weight
>>30331583
>Better reliability
>Better accuracy
>Massive aftermarket and cheaper magazines
>Better ergonomics
>Potentially less expensive
No, there's no subjectivity to it, there is nothing a Mini-14 does better than an AR-15.
>>30336168
It's passable if you're poor, but it's really not a great substitute for a proper AR, AK or what have you.
If you're Canadian, they're not restricted, that's one selling point.
>>30338144
Some would say that a semi-automatic is objectively better than a revolver, yet few here would outright say "don't get a revolver"
For some, it's a matter of preference, maybe he isn't looking for High Speed/Low Drag, maybe he doesn't masturbate feverishly to Chris Costa, maybe he just wants a semi-auto rifle, and the Mini happens to fit his criteria while having a particular style and feel, such as a rifle grip, and an M1 style action, which some just find pleasurable to handle. It also happens to look less like a scary black rifle, which some people are looking for in a gun.
Remember, shooting is very much about enjoyment too, not every gun is for combat.
>>30338149
Get cucked.
>>30338204
Ergonomics is incredibly subjective, different body proportions can change the feel and fit of anything on anybody.
Accuracy is another claim the AR fanboys make but I have yet to see a true comparison between a post 580 mini-14 and a equivalent cost AR. There can probably never be a great comparison because the mini-14 barrel length sits between typical AR barrel lengths.
Reliability is also subjective as it is unlikely you are using either an AR or a mini-14 in a truly "dirty" situation. You are either using it a a range or carrying one innawoods for whatever reason.
>>30338204
>reliability
Comparable to a Colt AR, with the exception that the Mini action is open to the elements and the potential for taking in dirt, thing being that most people don't fight in trench wars with their guns so it doesn't quite matter.
>Better accuracy
Probably, but do you complain that an AK isn't as accurate as an AR?
It's accurate enough for it's purposes, and then there's the Target model which is easily capable of sub MOA.
>Massive aftermarket and cheaper magazines
True, but you don't necessarily buy one to kit it out either.
>Better ergonomics
Subjective as fuck, some people love the feel of a Glock, others absolutely hate it.
>>30333249
>Friendly reminder that a Mini14 cannot stand up to getting any dirt on it whatsoever and will jam up repeatedly.
Not like you will be running through artillery fire getting dirt throw up all over the place. Same basic action still in use on the M14 and nobody complains about that being a pain in the cock.
>Proprietary mags mean if SHTF you're not going to be able to use STANAGs
Why would you bother throwing out your mags in a SHTF situation? You will either die in a shootout or live to police your stuff. Regardless of what mags you are throwing out its not like either are so common you would find them very often.
>>30323399
Look into the ARES SCR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67OhFd4pvHY
Ranch Rifle form, with all of the benefits of an AR-15
>>30338427
>Comparable to a Colt AR
Not even close. ARs will take AK-level abuse, the mini-14 seizes up if you drop it and is a real bitch to get working again.
I owned a mini 14 but it was stolen. Was a nice handling little rifle. Bedded the stock on mine which improved accuracy. After a couple of mag dumps the accuracy would degrade tremendously. 30 round mags don't feel correct in that rifle but the 20's are Just right. Only factory mags worth a dang.
>>30339086
>the mini-14 seizes up if you drop it
Those sure as some sourced facts you have there.
>>30339128
When was your rifle made? Old rifles would have issues with groupings opening up a lot as it got warm, this isn't a problem on one made after 2005.
You could remedy this problem on an old one by fitting it with an AccuStrut, which would dramatically improve it's capabilities in this.
Don't own one, but have shot a few. A friend of mine (whose opinion I respected) had one that he'd done a trigger job on, bedded it and mounted a scope. He said he could get inch and a half groups if he waited a few minutes between shots.
>>30339675
Was this an old or a new Mini?
Obviously a warm barrel will always have larger groupings, but the change was more rapid and dramatic on the old rifles.
>>30339033
I live in California and I got one of these. I was considering a Mini-14 but these got in Turners the day I went to buy it. I slapped a Geissele Rail and drilled a QD mount in the stock. Love the rifle, it's a Gen 1 so the trigger sucks and I don't know how to ship guns to Ares to fix it. But since it's the first rifle I've owned i guess I'm used to the trigger.
>>30340074
old minis had thin barrels newer ones are thicker
this isnt a phenomenon unique to minis. youd get the same spread increase comparing a pencil barrel ar to an hbar
the old minis balanced better than the new ones
the thing that really fucked with the accuracy is the gas block cause your not getting those 4 screws torqued the same
>>30340155
>this isnt a phenomenon unique to minis
I know, but it's particularly apparent on 180 series rifles because they had very thin barrels, thinner than pencil style AR barrels even IIRC.
>the old minis balanced better than the new ones
How do you mean?
>the thing that really fucked with the accuracy is the gas block cause your not getting those 4 screws torqued the same
Interesting point, do you think that could be solved by replacing it? Say, a hypothetical aftermarket gasblock?
>>30340326
>How do you mean?
the weight distribution was better they pointed like a dream. its the samething comparing an a1 with an a2. if you get a chance to hold em side by side its obvious
>>30339033
Have they even started selling the model with irons/muzzlebrake?
>>30338458
>Same basic action still in use on the M14 and nobody complains about that being a pain in the cock.
Do you not realize how picky the M14 is on proper lubrication and fouling?
I love the thing, but Garand style action is old, finicky, and open to the elements.
>>30340844
Yeah, and the Mini is a way to enjoy it that's easier and cheaper.
