“It is absurd to believe that we could ever claim victory in a war against organisms that outnumber us by a factor of 10^22, that outweigh us by a factor of 10^8, that have existed for a thousand times longer than our species, and that can undergo as many as five hundred thousand generations during one of our generations"
>the bugs will win
>>30291832
>It is absurd to believe that a species incapable of rational thought would be able to wage war in the first place, let alone win
>>30292054
nonsense.
america has waged war plenty of times, and even managed to win once or twice.
>>30292098
>america
>a species
>>30292098
The intended joke was alright, but the delivery was flawed. 7/10. C-. Try harder.
Doesn't matter if you are Alive or dead on the battlefield, the bugs still win.
It makes the whole endeavor seem rather futile
>>30291832
Last time I checked smallpox has been eradicated.
>>30294185
Bacterium and viruses can only affect the flesh. Once humans can transcend to artificial bodies we will be immune to not only these microscopic invaders but also disease.
>>30292128
>>30294546
But then we face a far more deadly foe: rust.
>>30294222
Big deal, we killed 1 ennemy in the war
>>30294546
Then we'll fall to entropy and ennui
>>30294546
What about computer viruses?
>>30296582
>Listening to England on healthcare
Kek
>>30296582
Nanotechnology. We build a better bug, and set it loose on the world!
>>30296615
Grey goo
>>30291832
biologist here, you're retarded
if you had no bacteria in your gut, you'd be shitting yourself constantly
you have an army of CD4s, CD8s, B cells, NKs, eosinophils, neutrophils, macrophages, monocytes, and friendly bacteria in your gut that protect you.
>>30294222
Smallpox is a virus, not bacteria
Eradication is impressive, but irrelevant to our bacterial overlords
>>30297068
The phage...
>>30296582
fucking idiots don't take their meds and then shit like this happens.
>>30297068
2-Star General here
That's the point: we are entirely dependent on them. The number of organisms in/on our body outnumber the number of cells of our body. It's a tenuous balance that easily swings in their favor.
Your hokey humoral and ancient cellular immunology is no match for a good ass-blasting bacterial invasion
>>30297444
They're also dependent on us, it doesn't really swing in their favor that easily at all.
the body has a ridiculous defensive capability
every single day your body mass-murders billions of foreign cells without breaking a sweat. Also remember your body can manufacture antibodies faster than most bacteria can divide and has a massive reserve of lymphocytes and leukocytes way above and beyond what's actually circulating. heart disease and cancer combined kill more americans each year than all infectious diseases combined
>>30297598
Which lifeform depends on the other for continued survival?
Which lifeform will outlive, evolutionarily speaking, the other?
That is the answer to which is the apex lifeform.
Protip : it's not humans
>>30297327
Yeah, but it has more to do with farmers giving antibiotics to livestock like it was candy.
So anyways, what has the criteria to breed a new great plague today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk
So... its going to be India, isn't it?
>>30296582
Well what do you expect when beleaguered doctors prescribe the belligerent, uneducated masses antibiotics for everything, even fucking viruses like a cold.
>>30297689
that's a fallacy though
you were talking about bacteria killing humans
on an evolutionary timeline, humans are the apex because we're far more recently evolved than prokaryotes
also
>we steal bacterial plasmids and put them in other shit just for fun
>we genetically modify bacteria to manufacture shit for us
>we took enzymes from ocean dwelling bacteria and used them to sequence our own genome
humanity is god compared to bacteria
>>30297786
>humanity is a god compared to bacteria
Oh boy.
When I have a keyboard later I'll fashion a coherent reply to your hubris
Short version: this is the folly of man
>>30292098
I liked what you were doing with it. It had direction and momentum, but you fumbled it at the last second. Try again later, and I'm sure it'll turn out right
