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Glock 20
>15 round capacity
>870g unloaded
>goes through everything
prove me wrong that it isn't the perfect sidearm for those without girly wrists.
When did you graduate from 9mm?
Plan on getting one in the future in case of bears. I've heard it makes a decent bear round but I've never shot one.
How is the price of ammo though?
>>30287152
Watched an episode of "Alaska state troopers"- 2 moose were in a guys yard attacking his dog, he dropped both of them with his 10mm.
Its an excellent round, but availability in my area is a little slim, kind of like .22 250.
>>30287152
Depends on the bear, black bears? A 10mm should do it. Brownies? Very hot 44 Magnum, absolute minimum.
>>30287216
But Brownies are only 7-9 years old anon. A 10mm would drop them no problem.
>>30287152
In regards to ammo you have no excuse for not loading your own pistol cartridges, its easy as fuck.
>>30287152
>>30287188
The ammo is sparse but not as much as other calibers. I would say it's middle of the road. Like most uncommon rounds, if you load your own you can save a ton.
>>30287240
Got me there
>>30287115
I want a 10mm so fucking bad, but I am a poorfag.I have thought about getting a Lee classic loader. Does reloading actually save any money?
>>30287299
Yes.
Even more so if you start casting and coating your own bullets.
>>30287299
If you are reloading to save money I question what you are shooting at.
>>30287299
It'll cost less of your money per round, but a good deal more time. You have to decide if that's worth it. Also, most people, myself included, don't really save money because we just shoot more for the same ammo budget.
>>30287335
My uses are home defense, ccw, and range fun. I like to be proficient in my weapons, but the only find I can afford to shoot with bought ammo is 9mm, 22lr, and maybe 223(bolt gun not AR), but that is stretching it. I have a .357 Magnum that I never shoot because of ammo cost. It makes me sad that I never get to shoot my 1st handgun.
>>30287115
I'm absolutely going to own some someday. Very well might be the first Glock I buy.
Question time: how easy is it to convert a G20 to .45, and a G22 to 9mm and/or .357SIG?
Nother: what's the best 10mm 1911-pattern pistol? The Colt Delta Elite is sexy as fuark, but I've heard it doesn't hold up to the hottest 10mm loads. What's bombproof? Is there a less expensive option than the Dan Wesson? Do the Rock Island 10mm's handle the hot stuff?
>>30287240
lulz
>>30287402
You'd be better off to convert a G21 to 10mm than the other way around. Unless you want to buy another receiver along with a barrel.
Can anyone suggest a good holster for a glock 20? I have a lean build and want to cc when innawoods and winter so not too worried if I print some. Thanks in advance
>>30287648
I've been using an alien gear. It's okay.
>>30287600
Huh. That surprises me, I figured it'd be easier to down-load a gun that's designed to handle the hotter load.
So you're saying the outside diameter of the .45 barrel is larger than the outside diameter of the 10mm barrel? So I'd need a .45 slide as well as a .45 barrel to convert a G20?
>>30287402
Buffalo Bore's 10mm ammo is safe to shoot in Colt Delta Elites, if that's not hot enough its time for a 44 Magnum
>>30287115
I have a Glock 40. Granted i have very little overall experience but dear god that think is wonderful to shoot. I wish the grip were more ergonomoc, though.
>>30287742
Glawk Fourtay Problum Solvuh?
U solve anny problums?
>>30287115
>2x20=40
go big or go home
>>30287648
I have a Comp-tac for my Glock 20.
>>30287738
Did Buffalo Bore change their loads to make them Colt-safe, or did Colt beef up the Delta Elite?
Or is the whole "deltas r week" meme overblown?
>>30287785
I wanna see this big beautiful bitch get a starring role in an action thriller.
Gun of the modern day Dirty Harry. 15 rounds of absurd overkill. Maybe make it a slightly paranormal story, with the hero facing big scary shits that don't wanna die.
>>30287785
Holy shit, that is actually sexy as fuck. I never really like reddots that much, and don't really care for glocks, but this is sleek and sexy. What is it?
>>30287834
>beautiful bitch get a starring role in an action thriller.
>Maybe make it a slightly paranormal story, with the hero facing big scary shits that don't wanna die.
minus the 10mm bit, this sounds a lot like 'End of Days'
>>30287785
Isn't this modification for hunting
[spoiler]the most dangerous game?[/spoiler]
>>30287115
Lol OP, it's a glock 20, so it has 20 rounds duh.
>>30287923
>it's a glock 20, so it has 20 rounds duh.
this logic means the smallest glock has the second highest capacity of all the glocks
>42 round sub compact .380 glock
>>30287969
That's a lotta clips.
>>30287923
It's glock 20 because that's how many digits you need to keep it from slapping you in the face.
>>30287997
>It's glock 20 because that's how many digits you need to keep it from slapping you in the face.
some glocks need 4 hands to safely operate
>>30288058
fuck, calculus is difficult,
i meant 8 hands
>>30287969
Heh... drowning your enemies in a pitter-patter blizzard of tiny bullets... I like it.
Out of curiosity does anyone here CC a glock 29?
>>30287115
When I traded my CZ 75 b compact with coco bolo grips.
Honestly though, I needed something more practical for backpacking through black bear turf. I still need to get a lone wolf barrel and buy some hardcast buffalo bore.
Does anyone happen to own one of these? I want one really bad, but I've heard bad things about their quality
>>30287216
Yeah, but using a very hot .44 magnum in a revolver tends to be more expensive and a bit less practical. I do like the Ruger Alaskan (454 casull) and that could potentially be just as versatile.
>>30287299
The glock 20 barrel can be swapped to 40 s&w and 45 acp I believe. Not sure about other calibers.
>>30287648
I CCW with crossbreed IWB with horsehide. It's pretty comfy and durable. So long as you have somewhat loose pants and a good belt, I don't think you'll have much issue with it.
>>30287648
Also, I'd just open carry innawoods. If you're hiking/backpacking, IWB is really bad and can mess up your back for long treks.
>>30288206
I did for awhile but I realized that any quick rapid firing would put my aim off target enough that I didn't feel right using as a CC gun. I also had to grind off the finger grooves, stipple the front strap, and add a beaver tail just keep a solid grip on the gun after touching off a couple rounds.
I've shot pistols before, but nothing like a 10mm. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
The recoil bruised my palms, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions--loud like a bomb--gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun a few times, I was anxious and irritable.
>>30288469
Well meme'd anon.
>>30288206
I own one but usually u cc a 43. I bought the 29 to be a highly packable travel gun that could double as a cc if needed. I had an incident a few years ago that got me worried about shooting though autoglass which originally inspired me to look for more penetration. As I have aged I have kind of come back to 9mm for general carry for reasons. The 29 is now mostly for travel and nightstand duty. Plenty of/k/ommandos do carry one though, nothing wrong with it.
G29 protips:
>it's pretty big
In now was is the a subcompact. It looks small in pics but in practice it's close to g19 size. Really thick.
>recoil is not a huge deal
It's stiffer than 9mm but it's not extreme, nothing like a magnum revolver. I am yet to see anyone that " can't handle it"
>it shoots flat
I think my favorite part is how speedy 10mm is. Point of aim changes very little so it's great at drilling targets between zero and 100 yards
>>30287716
Correct
>>30287242
Isn't there a chance you could blow your gun up doing that?
>>30288206
I'm CC'ing a Glock 29 right now. I don't mean in a little while or later on I mean right now.
>>30288331
>I do like the Ruger Alaskan (454 casull)
I like it also
>>30287785
Wisdom
>>30287785
>>30289166
Preach it, brothers.
>>30288206
I don't carry one but I own one and shoot it often.
It hasn't malf'd on me yet but it malfs on my gf once or twice per mag (only with Remington UMC 180 gn). I love the gun but the malfs make me leery of carrying it anywhere but the woods.
>>30287804
It's overblown. If the 10mm ammo is in SAAMI spec its gtg in the Delta Elite
>>30289011
As long as you are paying attention you'll be fine.
I need a good IWB holster for my Glock 20 with my light. I know it's asking a lot, but I'm 6'5" and about 250. Right now I'm looking at Dara Holsters. Any opinion on the company?
>>30287997
>>30288058
>manlets
>>30289011
Yes, the "glocknade" meme is from people accidentally stuffing the bullet of a 40 too deep into the casing and causing the pressure to be too great. (it's pretty easy to get it right but it's also pretty easy to be careless and fuck up one if you're not paying attention) However due to the cartridge design and loads not all rounds are equally difficult to load.
I'm not really a reloader so I'm just parroting what I've heard, but I think 45 is the easiest because it's low pressure, followed by 10mm because it's large and small mistakes make a smaller difference, followed by 9mm because it's a "hot" load things can get dangerous if you don't know whta you're doing, followed by 40, being most difficult because it is a short cartridge and it is relatively high pressure
>>30287738
I have seen a Colt Delta blow a casing from Underwood and scare the fuck out of the operator. He might see this post too.
>>30289393
>>30289432
That's Underwood using shit brass and exceeding saami pressure.
>>30289393
What the fuck is wrong with your hands? this better be shopped cause if it isnt it looks like youve had a undiagnosed illness for years.
>>30289393
>>30289476
they say if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer, and I now know in some cases its true
>>30289476
10mm puts hair on your chest
>>30288206
I had a 29, then a 22, the a SF29 again, and all three times I've sold it because it just wasn't worth it. A 9mm will do everything a 10 will, and is much cheaper to practice with.
>>30289465
>Starline Brass is shitty
lol fucking Colt apologists.
>>30287785
>>30287115
>>30289931
>>30289969
>>30289969
Speaking of 10mm magnum, is there a gun that fires 10mm mag that's not a special snowflake automag or a revolver?
>>30288206
There was a guy a couple days ago who appendix carried a 29 with a clipdraw and a little plastic dingus on a lanyard covering the trigger guard, which I thought was interesting.
>>30290576
>little plastic dingus on a lanyard
Something like this?
>reporter gets shot 7 times with 10mm point blank
>runs away
muh power.
>>30290627
Close, but even smaller. Or maybe it was just a bigger gun.
>4u
>>30287716
>>30288989
Wrong.
The outside diameter of the barrels is the same. The problem lies when the barrel locks up to the slide. The 10mm barrel in a .45 slide has a bit of 'slop' on the barrel hood/slide lockup, because the 45 hood is just a shade wider, but only at that point.
The 45 barrel will fit in the 10mm slide, but will not seat fully because of the barrel hood.
The outside diameter of the barrels themselves, however, is identical.
Source: I own several G21s and G20s.
>>30290850
But yes, you would need both a slide and barrel to take a G20 to .45 ACP, but not because of barrel diameter.
>>30289585
Second
Starline is top quality
The Delta has no chamber support, it was not designed for true spec 10mm. It was deisgned more for the tuned down 40SW loads. You have to buy a Bar-Sto or other fully supported barrel to shoot true SAAMI spec cartridges.
Only recently has anyone started making proper 10mm handguns with Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and Double Taps help
Anyone have a g29 next to a g19 pic?
Want a visual size comparison
>>30290850
>>30290863
So would it be simpler and easier to convert a G21 to 10mm? Would you need just a 10mm barrel?
>>30291478
You can check out Google for a 30 vs 19 - Basically the same size difference.
>>30291664
Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3UEi2abpRQ
>>30291698
Awesome, thanks anon. Very interesting, I didn't consider that the extractor would have to be changed but that makes sense.
Looks like the whole calibre-conversion process is a little more involved than I had initially thought. Still would be worth doing, I suppose.
>>30288206
I conceal carry a G20. Also have hi caps that I converted from Korean G21 magazines. Read about it on the internet. Change out the followers and bang on the magazines a little to adjust the feed lips. Work pretty well,
>>30288287
Was watching one on GB but it went for over $1k. Too rich for my blood.
>>30287152
>I've heard it makes a decent bear round
Anything bigger than an average black bear and you're fucked.
460 rowland if you're looking for an autoloading bear gun
>>30288287
I've read they used shit improperly hardened steel which caused serious galling issues on the slide and frame rails.
Sure if you're made of money and want a collector's gun I guess
>>30293533
That's what I've heard too, is there anything to be done about it?
>>30293722
You could strip down to bare frame and bare slide, and send it off somewhere to get it heat treated and then cryo treated. Might make it a half decent gun.
Stainless is tricky to treat properly though and without knowing the specifics of AMT's metallurgy it will be very difficult to do it right.
>>30293761
At that point wouldn't it be better to just have a new one made? It doesn't sound much more expensive
>>30289393
Ha says the guy drinking light beer
>doesn't really have much of a significant performance increase compared to 9mm
>you can get more 9mm cartridges in the same sized handgun
CLEARLY 10MM IS THE SUPERIOR CHOICE
>>30293799
Depends how shit they are.
From what I heard, AMTs (at least some of them) used cast steel for their frames and slides, which is horrendous. There's not much helping that.
But why even get an AMT then? Why not just get a longslide 1911 from one of 5 million 1911 builders and have an AMT logo engraved on it?
>>30293722
Lubricate the slide rails to avoid galling? This is common sense.
>>30287188
Link?
>>30289238
:3
Flying witch is so comfy
>>30287804
Old Deltas and New Deltas are completely different.
In a few short words
>The only reason 10mm even still exists is colt and the Delta
>While a good attempt the execution was flawed (much like how colt initially fucked up with 38 super)
>Colt stopped making Deltas when there were other 10mm on the market as the Delta was shit
>Colt changed how they did things, made some modification and started producing Deltas again although they are not the same pistol
The slide stop cut out in the frame was changed, as well as some internal dimensions.
>>30287240
underrated
>>30289238
10/10 firearm choice
10/10 anime choice
>>30289840
What's with the stripe on your optic? Is that to line up with your rear sight? Getting a co-witnessed sight picture seems impossible with the stock irons, pretty nifty alternative if so.
I am still a sucker for EAA witness Hunter model.
>prove me wrong that it isn't the perfect sidearm for those without girly wrists.
Shoot 20/30k rounds through it without breaking a part and then come back
How about the S&W 1006? Decent or crap?
>>30297719
Metal frames tend not to be able to handle the stress. Plastic flexes, can take the abuse.
>>30295629
Explain how weapon durability affects ballistic performance again?
>>30298858
If the gun breaks, no more bullets go downrange. That means a complete absence of ballistics.
>>30298945
Not too much man.
Debating on how long a 9x25 Dillion barrel to get.
>>30298972
>>30298945
I fugged up. I got a G35. First glawk brand glawk as I am a fud. I am hooked already and will probably be buying a few more in various sizes and calibers.
>>30287115
>G29 barrel length: 3.78in
>G20 barrel length: 4.61in
>G40 barrel length: 6.02in
Looks like there's about a 50-100 ft-lb difference between the G29 and G20, and between G20 and G40.
