>Rusting Anchor
>Russians in charge of metallurgy
Who cares. Ships lose anchors all the time.
Oh and surface rust isn't the end of the world
>americans in charge of maintenance
USN shit isnt any better they just have more sailors with paint cans doing busywork.
>russian
>a good navy
Pick one.
>>30269643
>build shiny new Frigates
>invade the country making the engines for them
>have 5+ partially built ships you can no longer get engines for
>>30269947
which country did russia invade?
>muslims in charge of building destroyers
>>30270025
>if all but one engine is off, and that engine is at low power, there is not enough electricity generated for the cooling system in warm waters
This is anti F-35 tier yellow journalism.
>>30270009
The one you will claim doesn't exist in an attempt to keep a forced meme alive.
>>30270126
Hahahahahahaha.
>>30269643
>Slav's and boats
Yeah, nah
>>30270025
The irony here is that, it is the American designed and made parts (the intercooler and recuperator) that cause the power faults.
>>30269643
You have 30 seconds to post a ship that used it's anchor more than once and it isn't rusting.
Military love for neatness is one thing. Attempts to deny the principles of physics and chemistry are another entirely.
>>30270500
Chinese military ships may look like rusting but they are not. They use superior metallurgy that has no analogue anywhere in the world.
>>30270608
It doesn't matter how superior someone's metallurgy is. If it has iron in it, sea water fucks it up.
>>30270608
>Chinks
>superior at anything
>>30270658
Their metallurgy is alright though, based on what we've seen. Not significantly superior compared to Russian or American, but not shit.
>>30270651
It does. You can't make a ship out of pure titanium.
>>30270115
This is the UK Tabloid press, what do you expect?
>>30270639
Most ships do not show the level of rust this ship does.
The fact that this is a brand new ship is sad.
>>30269643
What else would you make an anchor from other than steel though? It needs to be dense (in order to work), strong (so as not to fall to bits) and cheap (so it doesn't bankrupt the navy each time they loose one). That rules out just about every non ferrous metal. Inox would be far to expensive, galv would be useless unless you had divers lay out 10 tons of packing peanuts on the seabed every time so it doesn't get scratched.
>>30270695
They could coat the anchor and chain in a protective, tough coating like the rest of the world does to prevent (or reduce) the shit stain comeing out of the hawsepipe
>>30270658
I think they've got a number of world #1's when it comes to killing their own civilian population and I think, the 'great lol forward' where they had all the farmers making pot-iron and 15-30mil of them starved to death because they forgot to grow food is up there as a #1 as well.
>>30270718
>They could coat the anchor and chain in a protective
It probably was, but coating does not live for long, and nobody cared when it went out.
>>30270722
Meming is not valid argumentation.
>>30270722
tiananmen square massacre was of students
Who here would defend american students protesting some inane shit
fuck the students
>>30270663
>You can't make a ship out of pure titanium.
Why not?
>>30270776
>some inane shit
A corrupt and despotic government fucking with their freedoms... which is the great hypocrisy of /k/ in that most of you cunts are 'reeeeeee government go away!' when it suits you
>>30270776
>fuck the students
They did! And a whole shitload of other people there as well
>>30270800
>A corrupt
All third world countries are corrupt, democracy doesn't solve anything
>despotic government
Your opinion, and the chinese like it that way
Democracy is the absolute worst form of government, china would be shit if it was democratic, just like india.
Look at how rapidly the west is declining, thats what our much valued freedoms achieve
>>30270818
>>30270800
/POL/ GET OUT NOW OR I'LL CALL THE JANITORS REEEEEEEEEE
>>30270668
This
Show me a new US ship with this amount of rust.
Protip: You won't
>>30269643
Sexiest looking frigate, hands down
>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/13/aegis-fail-in-black-sea-ruskies-burn-down-uss-donald-duck/
>American """technology""""
>>30269643
Isn't The Rusty Anchor what all the new Russian recruits get from their superiors?
>>30270896
No, that's just a euphemism for getting anally gaped by Chechens
>>30270895
Ah, ye old USS Donald Cook.
>>30270895
Please go. You're making this thread shit.
>>30269643
It's an anchor. Who cares if it rusts.
>>30270929
someone on the internet cares about a rusted anchor
>>30270879
You have eyes but can't see Mt. Tai. When matched to the beauty of Chinese Frigates, it is like comparing heavens and earth.
>>30270950
Nah, the Type-54s aren't as sleek looking as the Gorshkov.
>>30270950
Proofs?
>>30270722
Careful with Tiananmen, its as good an example of Western propaganda as it is of Chinese brutality.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
>>30270975
I knew CIA was behind this
Oh look, another American butthurt thread.
>>30270668
Cry me a river.
>>30270875
>Protip: You won't
Protip: I will.
>>30269643
>OP in charge of not being retarded
There are videos in the Middle East of Arabs using Chinese weapons while being taught by American CIA.
Shows that China makes the best weapons
>>30271147
The Bush is 10 years old by this point, and the rust on the anchors is nowhere near as bad.
The Gorshkov isn't even commisioned yet.
>>30271312
>The Bush is 10 years old by this point
Yeah, but it seems like the photo was taken when it was entering service.
>>30271325
>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_111210-N-FU443-612_Sailors_aboard_the_USS_George_H.W._Bush_man_the_rails.jpg
December 2011, 5 years after launch and 3 after commission.
>>30270975
>Chink logic
>Oh no! Civilians are protesting against our precious oppressive government by burning our APC's and military vehicles!
>Well only thing we can do now is declare martial law and start shooting live ammunition into the crowd!
>But it's ok since they are being belligerent!
Hahah, these stupid chinks still actually arrest people that are found out having taken part in the protest. Hell you sure bet you're ass i would have taken part if I lived in such a shit hole, too bad they never received some guns to fight back, and perhaps some Molotovs.
>>30271348
So what are we going to do? Judge the effectiveness of navy by how much rust-scrubbing duty they do on their ships? Gorshkov also wasn't launched yesterday on that picture.
>>30271364
> Hell you sure bet you're ass i would have taken part if I lived in such a shit hole
And you would be ded.
>>30271367
You can take it as an indication of build quality, that a ship before it has been commissioned has already very visibly rusted.
>>30271367
I don't judge a navy by that, all we can tell is that the USN does a better job of keeping their ships rust-clean than the VMF.
And that's all that means. Whether someone wants to infer something from that is their business.
>>30271364
If a buncha hippies started rioting, you'd support shooting them too
>>30271348
Gorshkov was launched a year before that in 2010.
>>30271312
I can bring you ten thousands pics of rust in ships of every navy in this planet.
The fact is every metal in the Sea Rust. There's no technology in the world that solve this problem.
>>30271375
You're missing the point, bootlicker. He's saying it's better to have tried to resist abject tyranny than to lie down and let them cuck you and your nation simply because it's the easier option.
>>30271391
That's true. Go call him >>30271389 a faggot now.
>>30271429
>He's saying it's better to have tried to resist abject tyranny
I'm sure all the dead people would agree with him. Resistance makes sense when it has chances to succeed. Otherwise it's nothing but pointless violence and death.
>>30269678
This is why you don't use fram filters.
Also the ship has 2 Diesel engines, and then 2 LM2500 gas turbines, as well as 4 smaller diesel generators. I don't think the ship HAD to be towed back, it's just that they didn't want to fuck up the diesel engines anymore than they already had.
I'm not saying it's not a ship of problems. The companies in charge of working together on the project (Lockheed and GD) split and became competitors halfway through. GD said fuck you on maintaining the ship as well so whoever is doing it in the interim is probably not doing a great job.
>>30270115
an engine at idle has more than enough power to cool itself..
>>30270663
We made a plane out of pure titanium
>>30271494
Pfft, get on our level.
>>30270718
It is far cheaper to over engineer an anchor and forget all fucks as it rusts. You know how much an anchor cost to replace? Pretty much fucking nothing for a government.
No, USN ships never rust when out to sea...
Wasn't on the GW, but yeah, everything exposed rusts when you're out.
>>30271364
confirmed to know nothing of the political situation back then.
80s China was pretty liberal and lots of pro-western cadres were in power back then, which is why those students could even think about starting a protest.
The only result those protests had was that Deng Xiaoping saw that people are ungrateful fucks for his reforms and were never satisfied with what they are provided with.
Nowadays, no Tiananmen would be possible, as public gathering for political purposes are strictly banned. It wasnt that case in the 80s.
>>30271429
>muh tyranny
I'm sure you would rather die than go to the DMV right? Or pay your taxes?
>>30271598
It was a student protest
All student protests are shit, what do students know?
>>30271606
7.62x39 makes an effective counterargument for all the wrong reasons.
>>30269643
Fatnikposting is the cancer killing /k/.
>>30269664
Not due to rust. More specificly, most modern ships use various paints and coatings to weather proof their ships. Rust is a sign that someone isn't doing their job.
More to the point, iron will rust straight through. Unlike copper and it's alloys, iron and steel don't form a tough patina so when they rust they're actually crumbling at a slow rate. It's not a problem in the short term but in the long term it's a threat to structural integrity.
>>30270500
You see all that blue crap? That's weather proof paint. They coat all the metal surfaces they can with it to keep the seawater from destroying it.
>>30271367
Arguably, we can say they are less diligent with the upkeep of their ships.
>>30271494
Pure, important titanium.
From Russia.
During the Cold War.
>>30272058
Structural integrity?? Have you ever been near a war ship? The sides are dented and twisted all along the sides. Not from tugs, or collisions from other ships. but from fucking waves. Water is hard, when waves are coming up over the flight deck, they hurt.
>>30270722
Those chinamen weren't massacred. That pile of bodies is actually from a tragic bicycle accident, where all of their pot-metal bikes collapse and caused a massive wreck.
>>30272463
and we all know how badly chinks operate moving vehicles to begin with
>>30272141
>US can not into titanium, had to think out the way to trick Russia and buy theirs
>Get titanium, build aircraft
>Titanium turns out to be shit, almost 40% of built aircraft crash
Yer got rused.
>>30269713
>USN is no better. It just has more sailors aptly doing their job with surplus of the necessary gear to do said job.
Is what you just said. Contrary to memery, maintaing the ship is one of the primary jobs if the deck crew.
>>30272496
Are you saying that 40% of all SR-71 blackbirds crashed?
>>30272872
Yes, 12 out of 32 is almost 40%.
>>30273300
>:Quick google search
...huh...
Well that explains why they went back to the U2.
>>30270895
>veteranstoday
ayyy lmao
another RT clone
retard
>>30273300
>>30273482
3 were from the wheels/brakes
1 was a trainer
1 was due to the hilarity that the engines required twin big block v-8s to start if at a full stop or low rpm. So a low speed stall meant they couldn't restart the engines.
At least it isn't like the LCS that had aluminum and steel touching each other under the water line.
>>30274566
that's called job security.
>>30274566
>aluminum and steel touching each other under the water line.
why is this bad?
>>30274683
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
any tradesman welder would have known this is not good
>>30271375
Yeah? What are you trying to prove?
>>30271601
Are you braindead you commie shit? How is tax or going to a DMV tyranny?
>>30271410
Not really
>>30271598
>Pro-western
>Pretty liberal
>Communism
Are you stupid? God damn these fifty cent posters are off the charts.
>>30274566
Funny how that turned out to be a non issue.
>>30270895
+25 rub
>>30270009
Ukraine? Georgia? Russia's invading so many places theses days, it's hard to keep track.
>>30270800
>one person speaks for /k/
Negative.
Just like /pol/ there's plenty of dumbasses on /k/, too.
We all know the liberals would scream bloody murder if the cops simply used a judicious application of mace on some student protesters, let alone the military using tanks, and the Republican Party wouldn't do jack to keep the leftists from framing the situation however they want.
>>30270975
5 yuans have been deposited in your acct
>>30269643
Extremely thick pieces of iron/steel can rust and use the surface oxidation as a passivation layer in much the same way aluminum "doesn't rust". The oxide layer is thick enough to actually protect the underlying material.
The Kmart Building in Troy, MI is made in this manner where rust protects the structure and the dark red color is obviously rust.
>>30271601
I drive an unregistered, uninsured vehicle with plates taken off another similar vehicle. I also have no drivers license.
If I get pulled over I'm fucked, but that's why I check my tail lights regularly and drive carefully.
I also print out bootleg plate tags on my computer and tape them to my plate.
>>30277686
Felon.
You would jeopardize lives and risk your rights to own firearms because you're too cheap to properly register your vehicle and buy insurance.
Scum.
>>30277719
How am I jeopardizing lives you dirty piece of shit?
I have enough money to replace my own vehicle at any time, and if someone manages to hurt themselves by running into me that's on their insurance. If in the unlikely event I cause an accident and hurt someone else, it's their responsibility to insure themselves if they are taking the risk of driving on public roadways. If I hurt myself in a car accident, I have health insurance that I pay for myself.
I might be risking my legal ability to own firearms, but certainly not my right.
Sorry you're so deeply cucked by the state. Get fucked.
>>30277773
Fucking niggers like you make society fall.
If you can afford all the above, you should. Public roads are a common good that all individuals share.
>If in the unlikely event I cause an accident and hurt someone else, it's their responsibility to insure themselves if they are taking the risk of driving on public roadways.
No mother fucker. If its your fault, you will get assraped sideways by the law and a jewish lawyer.
This isn't matter of being cucked by the state. It's just you being a nigger.
>>30269643
dude. the foto shows the ship which just returned from the sea before usual paintjob. in exactly its a foto when the ship was put into its dock in Sevastopol after it was staying for 2 days near Sevastopol and took part in the celebrations. it was staying whole 2 days with anchor being on the sea floor.
>>30277860
Ok buddy, keep being mad.
Sorry you got in a hit and run with a mexican when you were 19 and didn't have uninsured motorist coverage and couldn't pay to fix your own car because you have poor finance management. Not my fucking fault.
