Is Battlefield 1 just making up thier own weapons now? Or did i miss something?
You missed something
Covers the basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzEZ1Sq4tI
>>30246119
>Is Battlefield 1 just making up thier own weapons now? Or did i miss something?
No doubt they will hugely embellish but that grenade was common enough. It was used in a field expedient antitank role.
>>30246119
Fuck, you're retarded
>>30246119
They will most definitely invent some dumb shit but that one is real.
>>30246119
>filthy phone poster
>>30246144
Thought he would know about the "Gaede" Helmet.
>>30246119
The grenade checks out but I'm not so sure about this
They certainly existed at somepoint but I doubt they were used during WW1.
>>30246405
its a real thing but i don't know if it was used commonly
>>30246405
battlefield has always been known to be better and more realistic than cod, why would they chink it up now?
>>30246410
But they were. German Stormtroopers used artillery Luger's with these snail drums prior to the MP-18 (which also uses these magazines).
Basically it was a quick firing carbine that allowed shock troops to lay down fire quickly. Pretty good weapon for the purpose at the time.
I think it was Jackfrags or some other DICE/BF shill, but DICE plans to use historical equipment from the time period. Some will be experimental or prototypes, but their design existed at some point.
Either way, BF has been pretty shit since BC2 came out, I can't say this game will be any better. It certainly won't represent combat of the time period though.
>>30246405
Sights are wrong. That is a naval luger. They were not used on land or had trommel mags until post war
While were in the era, could pic-related be considered as an assault rifle?
After all, it was chambered in a intermediate cartridge (8x35mm) and was select-fire.
Never adopted as "not accurate enough after 400m" as well as being heavy.
>>30249414
they stated that the classweapon will be as follow:
ASSAULT
> SMGs
MEDIC
> Semi Auto guns
SUPPORT
> LMG
SNIPER
> Bolt Action rifles
so, I do not think that your gun will be included
I hope pic related will be included
>>30246119
>>30246133
It's also an alternate history setting, so they can do whatever they want.
>>30249475
>ww1
>the only people who have bolt rifles are snipers
Well, it's already shit. Even the original Call of Duty games had more riflemen than this shit.
>>30249475
>smgs and semi-auto aw I'll be common place
>mfw
>>30249475
Im dissapointed.wpuld have been crazy fun to have a majority of players using bolt actions.
>>30246413
It was actually used very commonly, given to tank crews, pilots, non-combat personnel, and officers. Similar to what we did with the m1 carbine.
>>30249540
any source on it being alternate history? That honestly seems kind of cool. I always liked alternate history with a bunch of "what could have been" weapons and scenarios.
>>30249617
>alternate history
afaik that was just a rumor. It'll be based on real life, but concessions for gameplay will be included.
I'm thinking it'll be like Valiant Hearts, but with less bandes-dessinees aesthetic and tragedy.
>>30250052
>Valiant Hearts
That ending still hit me.
>>30250052
Bullshit, WWI is a myth.
The new trailer just dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pY3hlQEOc0
Still shitty music, and probably too many automatics, but looks really cool.
>about a minute or so in
>some broomhandle carbine abortion
Lol they're not even trying anymore.
>harlem hellfighters with american equipment
>1903a3 in a WW1 game
Not a single fuck given.
>>30251954
>1903A3
Look closer, that's a straight stock.
>>30251984
Isn't the rear aperture sight a 1903a3 only feature?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7fxXt0JOxo
Gameplay stream.
>>30251857
If that trailer is any indication, Battlefield will FINALLY have vehicle entrance and exit animations.
It has been needing this since Battlefield 2142.
>>30249475
Wow, what a fuck up. Should've been;
ASSAULT
>Bolt Actions w/ bayonet
MEDIC
>Carbines + Pistols
SUPPORT
>Low-Mobility HMGs
SNIPER
>Bolt Actions w/ optics
>>30252044
They just showed it in the stream with someone getting into an armored car.
>>30249617
>any source on it being alternate history?
It's a video game...
>>30252131
Fucking finally. I'm hoping the vehicle-babby safety net is getting weaker then.
I think vehicles belong in Battlefield, but I also think they shouldn't be practically invincible as they are in Battlefield 3 and 4
Battlefield 1942 was fine, Vietnam was fine, Battlefield 2 was fine, even BC2 had the vehicles balanced out pretty well, but in 3 or 4 you have to be incredibly shit to actually die in one.
Or in the case of Jets or Helicopters, you just have to be in the wrong 3/4s of the map.
>>30252079
Medics did not carry any weapons. Doing so was against the conventions at the time.
![[REVVI NG INTENSITFIES].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ormcNUi.jpg "[REVVI NG INTENSITFIES].jpg")
>shoot down a Zeppelin
>crashes and destroys whatever buildings are underneath it
>the carcass is part of the map now
>>30252180
>practically invincible as they are in Battlefield 3
Aircraft were fucking invincible. Armor was not.
>>30251857
1:13
Oh shit, please tell me we get to play as a ghurka, that will be so fucking cool
>>30252201
It's still a video game anon, gameplay takes precedence over complete historical accuracy. An unarmed medic class just wouldn't work in a Battlefield game.
Anyone want to post pics of all the guns in the gameplay footage? I'm not /k/ enough to know them all outside of the tank models.
>>30252217
Aircraft were a joke and still are a joke against anything but other aircraft, in both games. I mean c'mon, a Hellfire missile can't destroy a Humvee? Or a JDAM not destroying a tank? Only good aircraft is the fucking CAS planes, and even they are only limited to their gun in terms of pure effectiveness.
I'll give you this though, at least BF3 didn't have the fucking "Press X not to take damage" button that BF4 does on armor. Fucking ridiculous, really.
>>30246119
Not entirely, but they do have time machines.
>>30246133
Wouldn't that be so fucking heavy that it would totally negate the purpose of a stick grenade in the first place?
Stick grenades have the advantage of being able to the thrown much farther. You can't throw it far if it weighs 20 fucking pounds. That's a good way to tear your rotator cuff, which would be really fun to do on a battlefield.
>>30252301
That might have to be a gameplay thing. I never really cared for leaf sights in games, myself.
Real world? I prefer them.
>>30252311
It's a makeshift AT grenade, you dumdum.
>>30252311
The intent is to chuck it in when you are close to a trench and deliver a much higher explosive yield, or incapacitate vehicles by breaking their tracks and or optics.
>>30252244
says who? i got my best scores being a completely unhelpful medic doing nothing but reviving everyone regardless of whether or not they wanted revives
>>30252311
Apparently not. Because they were used.
The Germans know more about hand grenades than you do.
>>30252311
someone just used 2 of them in game, 1 didnt even take out a apc, took 2 and they went all of 10 feet tops. the throwing animation looks laborded. There you go you sperglord
WE WUZ KRAUTS
>>30249475
>>30252079
Wait, what if non-scoped bolt action rifles are an all class weapon?
In BF4, carbines, shotguns, and DMRs are a universal class of weapons for all
In BF3, PDWs and shotguns are universal weapons for all classes
>>30252311
Throw underhand, anon.
>>30252162
That's not an argument, video games can be accurate af.
Just look at RO2, you won't find any historical mistakes
>>30249617
Just look at the game cover
>>30252407
is that real
>>30252417
yes
>>30249475
see
>>30252383
I really can't imagine there won't be bolt action rifles as standart weapons for everyone, how fucking retarded would that be
>>30249475
Medic werent issued rifles. Occasionally pistols. In ww1 & 2 they were non combatants. Hense the the big red cross on their person.
>>30252407
Honestly I would play the shit out of a battlefield game where you can be african pharoah flying pyramid dreadnauts.
Meanwhile Hwangu Robot Fleets and Finnish Hyper Tanks duke it out
>>30252387
I love RO2, but it does have some mistakes.
For example, the German anti tank grenade they used in game is not supposed to be thrown, but rather attached to a tank with its' magnets by sneaky soldiers.
The germans did have throwable AT grenades, so why they didn't model those instead is beyond me.
>>30252446
i always thought the unlockable double mag MP40 was some fantasy bullshit, untill i googled it. that shit was actually real.
You might be right, but wouldn't it be possible to just throw those magnet at grenades? like, in the game?
now that i write this i recall they're exploding on contact, iirc
Holy shit that was a fucking Madsen.
>>30252407
This just reminds me that the black dude in Eternal Darkness had one of the best levels in the game.
Parachute inna Kuwait to fight fires during Desert Storm, pick up a dead guys OICW and go to town on monsters.
>>30246420
Uhhhhh, money? Watch the fucking footage from E3.
>>30252407
That's fuckin' ebin.
I'd totally play that.
>>30252383
90% of the people in the game won't take a bolt-action rifle unless they want to hang out on a hilltop and spend the entire round shooting in the general direction of enemy pixels form 1600m or they care about historical accuracy.
>>30249617
It was initially some website making shit up. The game, like all BF games, is not going to be historically accurate with how weapons were used, but they aren't just making shit up.
Shit like ironstorm is what is actually considered alternate history
>>30252530
Fucking firefighter man was bad ass, as bad ass as he could be in that silly game anyway.
>>30246420
Look at this naive faggot over here.
Good lord your daddy must be disappointed for raising a fucktard like yourself.
>>30252079
Go buy Verdun.
>>30251857
I want a horse so damned bad
>>30252446
SVT bolts are plummed. Totally incorrect for wartime, but the dev who owns one says of course it's correct, the one I have is like that.
I think he'd probably put in a banner nugget in the game if he happened to own one of those too.
![Battlefield 1 Multiplayer Gameplay - Exclusive.mp4_snapshot_01.48_[2016.06.13_05.14.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JAVhgwz.jpg "Battlefield 1 Multiplayer Gameplay - Exclusive.mp4_snapshot_01.48_[2016.06.13_05.14.45].jpg")
So this is what WWI look like.
btw was there a sight like this in WWI?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkRcvtGE90Q
>>30252383
> has a SMG as standard weaponry
> has a semi auto rifle as standard weaponry
> has a LMG as standard weaponry
> Hey guys, wanna try out my bolt action rifle?
people sure will play with free bolt action rifles!
>>30252740
if it can one shot people, maybe gotta have those sick 360noscope
in the end, it doesn't really matter. Hell, they might make hardcore mode so that everyone is forced to use bolt action.
>>30252758
I have to say
I´m looking forward to that game, even if it isn´t really a WW1 shooter
I just love subguns!
>>30246147
>Bundled grenade of HE now considered magnetic HEAT "mine".
Go home Men at War.
>>30252666
>tfw you will never be a cavalryman
>tfw you will never raid supply lines and cut down your enemies with pistol and sabre
>>30252837
The grenades were improvised because of the sudden tank attacks by the british. They are not magnetic nor HEAT and I dont fucking know where you got that info from. You fucking retard
This game should have assault mode like in UT04. Just rip off the train map.
>>30246410
They were primarily used by naval troops who couldnt carry around full rifles all day. This way they had a carbine that could be somewhat accurately fired from the shoulder, while being contained to a pistol sized package.
>>30252407
>>30252425
Step your game up.
>>30252677
This is the worst joke I've ever seen.
>>30252487
You can see the proper way to use them here
https://youtu.be/2B7cligsZFA
I supposed you could, in theory, throw them. But they look too unwieldy for that, and they weight 6 or 7 pounds. Besides, most AT grenades are shaped charges(including this one) and therefore must land in a right angle with the armor. Otherwise they are mostly harmless. That's why they usually had some sort of stabilisation device on the handle. The RPG-43 had fabric ribbons, and the Panzerwurfmine had some canvas fins.
>>30252407
>WE
>>30252677
Dibs on the Madsen class
>>30252387
>zf4 scopes not used in Stalingrad
>mkb 42 early prototype and highly unlikely to have appeared in Stalingrad
>suppressors not mounted on nagant revolvers at the time
>post 1943 pu scope on mosin
>bolo 1896 couldn't accept a detachable mag or select fire
>plum svt-40 bolt
Thanks imfdb
>>30252215
Fighting inside of a burnt out zeppelin skeleton? I'm getting a funny feeling in my pants
>>30250052
>>30250084
I'm finally getting an xbox one tomorrow, Valiant Hearts is the first game I'll play.
>>30252740
If you make them powerful, yes they will.
>>30252840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWnF-GKJacY
>>30252387
>Just look at RO2, you won't find any historical mistakes
Hahahahahaha
>>30252677
There were holographic sights in WWII that worked off ambient light, they were never given out to infantry units, I don't even think SF got them. Dunno about WWI.
>>30253036
>not posting the more appropriate Corb Lund song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1V3JW4HeBs
>>30252530
None of this makes sense.
I'm personally looking forward to the tanks.
>>30252938
>>suppressors not mounted on nagant revolvers at the time
brahmit device
>>30253063
go on,..... i dont see what youre laughing at
>>30252280
You've clearly never played BF2
Aircraft and Helis were extremely OP, that's why they've been tuned down ever since.
>>30253122
Eh, Horse Soldier hits my "I'll never be a calvalryman" feels more. And if you're gonna post I Wanna Be in the Calvary you have to post the Reprise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVRbEGlB4sc
>>30253175
The character he's talking about (who is actually a black Canadian) is an oil well firefighter (you know, red adair and what not).
He falls into an ancient temple of one of the old gods when the oil well fire he was working on exploded and he equips himself with shit he found on dead solders to fight nightmare monsters.
He originally was suppose to be a solider, but they didn't bother changing his loadout when to switched to firefighter, that's why he has a gun.
>>30253261
Well.
That got depressing real quick.
Dreadnoughts fucking when
>>30253390
They're the "behemoths" in maps with coastline.
Lets just all remember. Of you want WW1 realism. Do Verdun.
The majority of soldiers are bolt action with nice but real diversity. Pistols are exlusive to a couple classes. Support actually has to do support and your whole team has to work together.
Sure there's no tonks and planes but the infantry combat is great.
>>30253241
>Aircraft and Helis were extremely OP
They should be. It made BF2 fun as fuck when you were on a base/in the hajji bus and heard a jet coming. You scattered like fucking roaches to light. Same with the arty strikes.
>>30253420
I like Verdun but...
>small maps
>hitscan weapons
>friendly fire off
Fix those and you'd have a 10/10 game.
>>30252407
I would play that.
>>30246410
id still use a schnellfeuer m712
![KAR_Kenya[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1YRyoaL.jpg "KAR_Kenya[1].jpg")
>>30253569
The King's African Rifles, mate.
>>30253650
In France? Fighting alongside whites? Not objecting blacks in the game, I'm glad teh 369th are getting attention, but why mix units that were segregated?
>>30252311
Before posting on /k/ you should at least have some basic knowledge of weapons and history of weapons.
That's an early attempt at anti tank grenades you fucking idiot. It's a sacrifice in range and usability to get a charge big enough to hurt an armored vehicle.
>>30249475
>bolt action only for snipers
Cool, a majority of players on each server will be using bolt actions.
>>30252886
I shouldnt laugh but I did...
>>30253684
Because "units" are probably going to be a cosmetic unlock so players can differentiate themselves.
I mean, you're already going to be seeing a mishmash of historical units anyway, so throwing the KAR into the mix doesn't do much.
>>30253684
>In France
speaking of which, where are the French? I don't really care about the inclusion of diversity, but if they're there and the French aren't I actually will be triggered. Not even French t.bh.
>>30253781
They'll be there. They're not going to include the Italians and not have the French too.
>>30253811
The Italians were a big part of WWI and had the most badass front, I hope we get vertical mountain maps with blizzards and avalanches.
>>30252653
Way ahead of you.
>>30248694
>BF has been pretty shit since BC2 came out
Opinion discarded
>>30246133
>They actually did it, the absolute madmen.
>>30246410
Artillery Lugers were issued heavily in WW1, the magazine was not issued until WW2.
>>30251984
It's still an 03A3 goofball
>>30253080
Considering that most marksmen (at least for the British and americans) didn't even have scopes on their rifles, and the ones that did rarely knew how to use them, I'll be pretty upset if telescopic sights of any kind are a huge part of the game
>M1913 scope on a Gewher 98
>FUCKING SEMI AUTO Schmidt K11
Why Dice
why are you doing this
I thought we were friends
Do you know you're hurting me
>>30253727
It was a way of simply increasing the blast, not necessarily an AT weapon. Germans typically used their cannons to take out tanks.
Now if you know weapons so well why did yo not comment that the shown grenade a model 1924 instead of the model 1915 or 1917?
>>30253871
They are. I am pretty upset that you ever considered Batlefield a remotely realistic series.
People, get over it: this is going to be 80% reskinned WW2. But we'll be playing this because it LOOKS the part not beceause it PLAYS the part, like all the other Battlefields.
I mean, it appears that in the game everyone is issued a parachute. Realistic? Hell no. Fun when you parachute out of a giant airship into the combat? Hell yeah.
>>30253811
The austro-hungaric front will be included, it was shown on the trailer
>>30253888
>Now if you know weapons so well why did yo not comment that the shown grenade a model 1924 instead of the model 1915 or 1917?
Because I'm not an autist. The point is that OP did not know those grenades had a reason for existing.
>>30253904
That's what I mean. They're not going to put the Alpine Front in the game and then turn around and ignore the French.
>>30252603
You mean like what the entire fucking team did in BF3 and 4
>internalreeee.wav
>>30253871
You'd better prepare those jimmies for a rustlin', anon.
Knowing DICE, there will probably be 'prototype' red dots and massive 40x ballistic reticles on everything
>>30253233
You don't cock a broomhandle bolt to chamber a round
>>30253955
QUICK we're down a shit load, EVERYONE GO RECON AND SNIPE
>>30253811
>They're not going to include the Italians
Monte Grappa is one of the revealed maps.
>>30253946
:)
>>30253959
yeah man just wait until they start doing unrealistic shit like re spawning and picking up ammo by walking over it
>>30252652
He's definitely not wrong
>>30253985
you missunderstood his post
>>30253985
>>30253995
I mean: The Italians are in the game. We have seen them in the fucking trailer. They would not do that, and then turn around and ignore the French.
Clearer?
>Snoop says his team has a secret weapon
>shortly after this happens
I kekd loudly
>>30252301
Do you people have no critical thinking skills? These are real people posing for promotion shots, not in-game models. They're just using what ever rifles they have lying around for props because the image is only used on their website.
>>30254066
>Do you people have no critical thinking skills?
Have you seen these social rejects try to discuss movies here? That should answer your question.
>>30252471
That motherfucker went to war with a Musket and probably kicked dick.
>>30254022
>>30254039
In my defense, it's a bit late night on my side of the world.
>>30253963
It looks like he's just pulling back on the slide to release it. Similar to how you can do the same to a 1911 when reloading from empty. Does the C96 not work that way?
>>30254002
>stawmanning this hard
Pathetic, anon.
>>30253122
Oh God, that over-played pile of horse shit. You ever been to a cav event? that song is on loop for HOURS.
Please give me charge of Beersheba, cmon EA don't let an ausfag down.
>>30254060
On the GB stream they just wrote and underlined WEED on a blackboard when everyone kept bringing up the 'secret weapon' and would gesture at it emphatically.
Also Terry Crews was great. Clearly knew a thing or two about actual video games.
>>30252217
I don't know. I felt pretty invincible in the tanks, even with the c4 rushers.
>>30254060
>when you are so well known for being a stoner that it's not even illegal for you to smoke marijuana anymore
>>30254230
some people are more equal than others
>>30254112
It doesn't, there is no stop to keep the bolt from flying forward
The empty stripper clip in the guide is the only thing stopping the bolt from going into battery, and it does that the instant you remove the clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5Tc_idfDp8
>>30254243
>>30254230
Willie Nelson also gets the same treatment tbf.
>>30253836
(you)
>>30252215
>>30252943
DURING WW1 THEY DIDNT USE ZEPPELINS, THEY USED DIRIGIBLES.
God you people are fucking retards.
>>30254277
What? Just watch the video you posted and it clearly shows that the bolt stays open after the last round is shot.
And in the video you also see the user pulling the bolt back to release it against the clip and only then does it do what you said.
>>30252932
>WUZ
![Bildnis_Ferdinand_von_Zeppelin[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/jpybx92.jpg "Bildnis_Ferdinand_von_Zeppelin[1].png")
>>30254462
I don't care if you're memeing or not, you're a retard.
>>30254466
Once the follower is lowered, that's it. After ammunition has been loaded into the magazine and the clip is removed, the bolt goes home
This is exactly what happens in that video I posted. The RO2 devs animated the reload of the broomhandle with the user pulling the bolt back and releasing it even after the clip was removed
>>30254462
There's really no difference. Who cares.
>>30253844
>WW1Veteran8888
>>30254607
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.
Do you want me to explain the differences? I just snorted some ritalin so I will happily write a few paragraphs for you.
>>30254640
But no one cares. Did I also mention that they're the same? Because I thought I mentioned that they were the same.
>>30254657
I hope you get shot next time you go to the gay bar.
>>30252079
assault should have pistols or stock pistols, and an a good number of grenades. Also sharpened shovels.
>>30253241
They were very powerful in good hands. The guided missiles would one hit any vehicle.
But:
They did not regenerate health.
They did not regenerate ammo.
In many maps you could capture their airfields/helipads and deny their ability to rearm or repair.
If you couldn't capture the strip, you could still camp it and attempt to destroy the vehicle while it was low and slow.
You could steal the it vehicles from the enemy base if they were left unguarded.
You could tell, by looking at it, if a helicopter had any missiles left on its pylons.
Having played both, the Post-BF2 system is garbage.
>>30254730
>Also sharpened shovels.
Everybody gets those. Melee is actually viable in close quarters now.
>>30254060
Hahaha that dude beside him that looks over. You only see his face for a second
>nigga you gon pass that?
>>30254747
haha, not with automatic weapons for everyone.
>>30255091
We saw it in the livestream. Loads of people were getting killed by melee. Even some bayonettings.
>>30252383
Shotguns were confirmed as all class weapon
>>30254474
>KANGS
>>30252343
You've never seen an m1907 rifle slung before have you?
>>30246405
where's his pinkie?
>>30255837
index is above the trigger
>>30255837
Where's his trigger finger, dumbass?
>>30255871
>>30255878
oh
now I feel dumb :(
>>30255891
no biggie. now i cant unsee it though
>>30249475
>>30249414
I think he meant the real life classification of the weapon
>>30253241
>>30253511
>>30254745
I think I was the only one who enjoyed ferrying troops around the battlefield in a transport helo.
I used to pretend I was Echo 4-19.
>play France vs Germany match at Verdun
>kick the Boche's ass
>sing La Marseillaise on voicechat over the victory screen
>>30248694
>BF has been shit since BC was created
>>30253029
Like the k98 in Dod fucking Oneshot, super accurate if you're not moving, right click bayonet stab for a secondary. Shit was great. One second you're picking off allies from accros the map the next second you're stabbing some bastard thatjust rounded the corner, pulling off twitch melee kills faster than you mentally register so you still shoot the bastard after you killed him already.
>mfw the enfield was basically the same thing with 10 rounds instead of 5 at the trade off of a little less accurate.
>>30257274
Yeah. I honestly see them making the bolt-actions equally as viable as the SMGs but with a totally different playstyle. Trench sweepers sweep trenches, but have fun trying to shoot anyone at range with them. Contrawise, rifles hit hard and at range, but are extremely unwieldy in close quarters and have a (comparatively) long cycle.
Honestly, I see the bolt-actions becoming a status symbol: you aren't considered good until you can use them effectively.
>>30252417
it certainly looks real.
>>30252311
Are you....retarded?
>>30254640
Good job King Retard, sperg out about Zeppelins when they were used throughout the war in bombing, reconnaissance, and even supply transport. Hell during the war the Schütte-Lanz company and Luftschiffbau Zeppelin built more than sixty combat craft. The Treaty of Versailles even included language barring Germany from building large rigid framed vehicles for it's own use.
Fucking retard.
>>30253887
It wasn't a K11, it was a Mondragon, look it up.
>>30253887
That was a Mondragon you stooge.
A game company FINALLY starts putting the unknown guns of WW1 in a game and people still jump down their throats because of it.
>>30252333
This would be a pretty interesting concept....
But Battlefield is too mainstream to do any of that sort of experimental gameplay stuff.
Guns shown/confirmed so far:
C96 & C96 Carbine
"Artillery" Luger (Used in photoshoot, but the Luger is listed in the Red Baron DLC)
M1911
Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver and/or Webley Mk IV
MP-18
Gewehr 98
Franken-Semi-Auto-Conversion Gewehr 98 with snail drum mag (my image)
Lewis Gun
Madsen
SMLE (Listed in Lawrence of Arabia DLC)
Winchester Model 1907
M1897 Trench Gun
Mondragon
Cei Rigotti
T-Gewehr
Beretta M1918
Hotchkiss M1909 Benét–Mercié
Bergmann MG15
Remington Model 10
M1903 Springfield (Shown in photoshoot image in WWII era M1903A3, but that was likely an error, it was just a photoshoot)
Didn't include field guns, artillery, emplacements, or aircraft MG's.
>>30254588
I love this conversation because:
1) You are correct. The video clearly shows that after the user loads ammo and removes clip, the slide will snap into place by itself.
2) Using "clip" is not only appropriate, but also correct in this conversation. After years on /k/ this makes me giddy.
clip clip clip clip clip clippity clip
>>30257968
Of course I forget the image
Who had the worst rifle in WW1? I imagine it would suck to play as that faction.
>>30246420
Because BF's fanbase are gamers, not history buffs. Gamer kids aren't interested in sitting in a Trench with a 5 shot bolt-action, they want ACTION and that's why every single player in BF1 will have a machine gun, there will be no melee combat, no horses. et cetera.
Friendly reminder EA NEVER made anything good and this time it's not going to be different.
>>30254462
Your mother is a dirigible, you asspump. Go be autistic somewhere else.
>>30258048
>there will be no melee combat, no horses
We've seen both.
>>30258073
In the trailers. But do you really think it's going to be featured in the game? This is not Verdun, it's a commercial game and even Verdun is lacking that stuff.
>>30257968
>Hotchkiss M1909 Benét–Mercié
...oh. I had wondered what that LMG with the side-loading block clip was. I totally forgot Hotchkiss guns used that.
>>30258110
It is confirmed to be featured in the game.
In the gameplay livestream done today, melee combat and bayonet charging were shown, in gameplay.
Horses are also confirmed as part of gameplay, as the Lawrence of Arabia DLC includes a "black stallion" skin for your horse.
>>30258110
There was lots of melee in the 3 matches they livestreamed, including bayonets mounted on rifles and MP-18s. Hell, they mentioned there was a specific mechanic for bayonet charges.
In the DLC lists, they mention that "Lawrence of Arabia's Black Stallion" is an available replacement for your horse in maps that have them.
Is it only Germans vs British/American or is there someone else?
>>30258132
Confirmed factions so far:
British / Commonwealth vs Germany
Italy vs Austria-Hungary
No confirmation of the US or the French. (The black soldier wears the same British uniform as the rest of the commonwealth. Other than the English, Aussies and Indians/Sikhs are confirmed as part of the "British" faction)
>>30258132
We've seen Bongs, Germans, Americans, Italians, Arabs, and Ottomans so far. The French are as-of-yet unseen, but their guns are in the game.
Furthermore, the Bongs appear to have their various famous colonial regiments as skin unlocks. We've seen proof of the King's African Rifles, and an Indian soldier wearing a turban.
>>30258011
Everyone's going to have SMGs. I just hope there will be the option to restrict weapons server-wide so hopefully there will be historical accuracy servers.
French rifles are going to be the worst.
![Action_by_Sepoy_Khudadad_Khan_VC_Ypres[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pRDcNTS.jpg "Action_by_Sepoy_Khudadad_Khan_VC_Ypres[1].jpg")
>getting to Remove Jerries as Khudadad Khan
What a time to be alive.
>>30258184
just like in real life
>>30257274
Did it have M1917?
Because reasons.
>>30258165
>Muh historical accuracy
You fucking sperglords should be happy that EA is releasing a WWI title that isn't an alternate timeline. If you don't like it, go back to Verdun. The game isn't even out yet and all of the autists on here are losing their shit. I'm just happy they're not doing another modern BF title.
>>30258319
That was directed at
>>30258174
>>30258048
You're a dense motherfucker, aren't you?
>>30253569
We did have abos fight mate, but they dont look quite that bad.
>>30258319
>If you don't like it, go back to Verdun
I can play Verdun and hate EA at the same time, thank you very much.
>>30255794
>'N SHIET
>>30252407
This shit is like WW1 Stargate and I'd be so fucking down
>>30258344
not an argument
>There's a fucking Mondragon in the game
Muh dick
>>30252677
>that ft-17...
Holy shit my favorite tank reimagined in HD. I swear I'll build one of those some day
>>30249475
What about the engineer?
More games need sapper and engineer roles. Only two I can think of that do this is Battlefield and Mountain Blade.
>>30258641
There's engineers, and a dedicated vehicle driver class. They didn't elaborate much about them, but they did say they would have unique stuff.
>>30258011
Probably an Italian issued a Vetterli rechambered to 6.5 carcano. If a standard service rifle, the French Berthier was hindered by its 3 round magazine.
>>30251915
No guns detected
>>30246119
I've only ever played BF3, which is the best Battlefield and why?
Which one has the best vehicle combat?
>>30246323
also he keeps calling the barrage balloons observation balloons for some retarded reason.
>>30252201
>Someone giving a fuck about conventions during actual war
>>30246119
>Millions of Frenchmen die in WW1
>France is not even a playable faction
>but nignogs are
Thank you Battlefield
t. Frenchman
>>30258730
>implying France won't be
the wops are already in, and so is the hotchkiss
Will any class let me use a standard bolt action rifle without a dumb glass reflex site?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19hohCtdJ4Y
>>30258048
>EA NEVER made anything good
>Wing Commander IV
>Wing Commander Prophecy
>John Madden Football 1993
>Most of the Command & Conquer games
>Battlefield: Bad Company 1 and 2
>Battlefield 1942, Vietnam, 2
>The early MoH games
>Crysis 1
>Black & White
>Shogun: Total War
>Worlds of Ultima: The Savage Empire (if you count distribution roles)
If you're talking today's EA, I'd understand the criticism, but old EA published or contributed to plenty of gems which, admittedly, mostly aren't related to this board or DICE.
>>30254745
1942 was the best game of all time. Everybody was equal and there was no unlocking uber weapons.
>>30258721
The tear shaped balloon (Ae800/caquot) was originally designed as an observation balloon that would later be used as barrage balloons as well, especially during WWII.
So he technically isn't incorrect, although in the context of the trailer, they would be barrage balloons as there is no gondola and they are in the middle of a dogfight.
You faggots don't seem to understand that the point of the game is to be fun, not to be historically accurate
>>30256487
(you)
>>30259027
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I'll never understand the odd gap. As soon as the sword-n-board era ends gamers just lose all interest in realistic warfare until about WW2.
>>30259027
>implying Forgotten Hope 2 wasn't fun while being more historically accurate than BF1942
>>30258929
Of course I'm talking about modern EA.
>>30259027
Historical accuracy is more important. Also, what >>30259042 said.
It's okay to want fun, but when you give everyone SMGs it's just absurdly wrong historically and pandering to the most casual gamers.
>>30259064
What I mean is that people who aren't into guns probably won't have as much fun with an enfield as they would with an mp18
Am I going to be able to fight the serbs in this game?
This is important.
>>30259027
Even Ian understands this.
This game isn't a simulation. It's the equivalent of a Hollywood movie and expectations should be made as such.
If you ever played a BF game before you should know this.
>>30259073
You mean the same people who switch to the sniper class the instant they being killed by a headshot, causing the server to turn in a trench warfare after 10 minutes?
>>30252677
Fuck this game. There's too many semi and fully automatic guns.
>>30252232
Pretty sure that's a sikh but I'm equally as excited.
>>30259149
Movies fucking suck though. They get everything wrong and have stupid shit like happy endings and plot armor. When you have to follow a cliche narrative structure to please idiots, you're limiting yourself.
A truly gritty game that's well-made would fly off the shelves. If people wanted to just watch movies they wouldn't invest hundreds in gaming rigs. They want to immerse themselves. And nothing breaks immersion like a game feeling like a blockbuster.
>>30259027
If i wanted to hip fire an LMG with a holographic site while sprinting I would play bf4 or COD. If you make a WW1 game then make a fucking WW1 game... this is the same old shit just redone worse than what is already out there
>>30246119
At Granade
>>30249540
What the fuck is the point of doing a WWI game then?
