Buying an AK
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Looking to buy an AK
Looking for quality more than a good deal but a reasonable price at the least
>>30219892
DDI
>too expensive
Okay, poor fag, get a WASR10 or an NPAP
Stay away from IO.
WASR-10/63
>>30219892
Google it, new friend.
>>30219892
If you pay more for an AK than a WASR 10 it had better be fully automatic.
>>30219892
>KALASHNIKOV IS WEAPON OF RUSSIA. TODAY IS WEAPON OF WHOLE WORLD, BUT IS GIFT OF MOTHERLAND TO PLANET.
>I THINK YOU GET RIFLE OF SAIGA. IS OF IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS. PRICE IS GOOD AND FACTORY IS WHERE WHOLE WORLD FACES TO SEE HOW KALASHNIKOV RIFLE IS MADE. WHEN MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV INSPECT ARMS FACTORY, THIS IS FACTORY HE INSPECT.
>WASR OF ROMANIA CAN BE GOOD RIFLE TOO. IF YOU ARE WISE WITH KALASHNIKOV SISTEMA AND INSPECT WELL THE RIFLE, YOU CAN KNOW.
>IN AMERICA IS TYPE FROM ARSENAL OF NAME ARSENAL. IS FUNNY NAME TO ME. IS LIKE AMERICAN CHEESE OF NAME AMERICAN CHEESE. PRICE IS HIGH BUT QUALITY IS LIKE BEST RUSSIAN KALASHNIKOV. MAYBE YOU BRIBE PARTY AND GET JOB WITH GREAT SALARY AND PRICE IS NO PROBLEM. MAYBE NOT. IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE RIFLE THAT WORKS AND MANY CARTRIDGE THAN SINGLE FINEST RIFLE AND FEW CARTRIDGE.
>>30219981
>implying WASR isn't a "get-what-you-pay-for" rifle
>implying WASR doesn't have significant QC issues
>implying for a couple hundred more a much better rifle can't be had.
Spotted the nogunz
>>30220000
Shame, quads wasted on a salty Arsenal owner who can't come to terms that WASRs are now equivalent to their overpriced crap AK with QC issues on par (if not worse) than the old WASR days.
>>30219892
M-70
>>30220021
>still implying
Nvm, you're either just retarded or a shill
>all these people shilling for WASR
>for free
I don't get it. Just buy a Saiga, or a Vepr, or some Arsenal shit, or DDI, jusy don't buy a fucking WASR, gypsies can't make quality shit.
>>30219892
God teir:
Polytech Legend AK47S (milled reciever)
Arsenal SLR-95
Gordon Tech SLR-100S
Kassnar import Hungarian (all variants)
Steyr imports Maadi AKS (all variants)
Norinco Type 56S1 w/spike bayo aka 'double underfolder'
Norinco Type 56S2 Bakelite sidefolder
Good:
2014+ WASR-10
WASR 10/63
M+M M10
SAR1
RH10
TGI AMD-65/SA2000M
Chinese MAK90/pre ban (will be spendy)
Yugo OPAP
DDI builds
James River Armory builds
DC industries built M70AB2 underfolders
Arsenal SLR107/SAM7K (expensive side)
Any other pre-89 "pre ban" import. Maadi, Norinco etc. (expensive!!!)
Saiga/VEPR (will need to be converted to military features - expensive, but Russian!)
Meh:
NPAP/NPAP DF
C39 V2
High Standard
Unknown kit builds - avoid these until you're more familiar with AK's and what to look for with QC/QA (rivets, sight block/gas block cant, etc) because quality varies wildly. A top shelf build from a top shelf builder is a god-tier, but it'll usually command a price with it.
Bad:
IO inc anything (except imported Polish Beryl/Archer 5.56mm)
Century RAS47
Century 1st gen C39
Century GP1974
Anything screw built (instead of rivets)
Century M74
>>30219996
ex dee memes.
It's not 2011. Strelly is fucking dead, Ivan is fucking dead. OC is funnier than waving your dead joke around and getting gnarly old corpse juice on the rest of us.
>>30220051
this guy googled canted sights, what did you expect kid.
>>30220021
>>30219892
NPAP:
It's WASR-cheap but built sturdy as fuck and has much better quality (chrome-lined is also a plus).
>>30223841
Eees funny because NPAPS no come wit chrome lining.
>>30219892
get an O-PAP if you can find one. much better than the shitty N-PAP
>>30221789
Good job discounting his claim, definitely proves that Arsenal doesn't have QC issues just because you called his post bait.
Not picking a side on Arsenal vs WASR but you faggots fail to make an argument.
>>30225071
Never said Arsenals don't have QC issues.
I just posted that picture for him saying that WASRs are objectively better than Arsenals. Which is not true, and is very much bait.
>>30225071
>>30225089
Thank you for contributing nothing to an already shitty thread instead of letting it die.
Tldr; get a DDI
>>30225113
He started it.
Also, DDI is brettygud.
>>30225089
>objectively better
That anon never said that m8, did you read the post? The post says WASRs are equivalent in quality to Arsenals due to Arsenal's recent severe QC issues.
Doesn't say WASRs are better, seems like the point is that Arsenals are poor quality for the money with what they currently output.
>>30225130
But they AREN'T equivalent to Arsenal. Yes,
>lolbubblesonyourfinish
But that doesn't mean even with a shitty finish, that Arsenal isn't world's of quality ahead of a WASR. That's like comparing your beat up e30 Beemer to a brand new 7-series.
>>30225160
I disagree with you there anon. New WASRs that have passed good QC will shoot just as well as the bad stuff Arsenal is currently putting out.
I absolutely agree that a good Arsenal beats a good WASR any day, but I wouldn't recommend an Arsenal to anyone right now until they fix the issues that keep popping up. But I'm not here to argue, and I'll agree with you two above with recommending a DDI.
>>30225130
>overpriced crap AK with QC issues on par (if not worse) than the old WASR days
Please learn to read. Also, please watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5mQf9_FsxM
Even though he got the worst example of an Arsenal I've ever seen, with the paint bubbling off and the crap American trigger they had to throw in to make the rifle 922r compliant, this thing absolutely mops the floor with the WASR. Minimal parts wear, and still a tackdriver after everything he threw at it.
The review was so boring he called it "Cruise Control."
>>30225189
>overpriced crap AK with QC issues on par (if not worse) than the old WASR days
>QC issues on par (if not worse) than the old WASR days
That says that the QC issues are possibly worse than the old WASR QC issues, not the rifle itself.
Please learn to read.
>>30225160
its practically equal in terms of qc, accuracy, and finish. what is it about your arsenal makes you honestly think its objectively worth the extra $400+
>>30220000
wasr does have qc issues but as long as you inspect before you buy you will not have an issue
>>30225209
Horrendously unacceptable mag wobbling, canting that requires a fucking mallet to correct, and headspacing issues is equivalent to bubbling paint? Spare me.
Look fampai, I'm not saying the issues that some of the SLR Arsenals are encountering aren't something that needs to be fixed, right the hell now, but this "WASR > ARSENAL LOLOL XD" memeing is getting about as stale as the Glocknade meme.
>>30225216
The lifetime of the Arsenal compared to the WASR you dense fucks
I'm not even shilling for Arsenal, get a DDI. But fuck you are retarded if you think a WASR is in the same league.
>>30225253
/thread
Let it die wasrfags
>>30225257
any firearm that is properly taken care of will likely outlast its owner.
>>30225303
Clearly you've never shot an RAS-47 or I.O.
I wouldn't shoot one of those if someone gave it to me for free.
>>30225253
>>30225268
Why do all of you suggesting Arsenal keep saying the other side is saying WASR is better. This entire thread (and the multiple other ones /k/ has every day) say that WASR is a better VALUE than an Arsenal, given the current QC issues, not a better rifle. This thread as well, nowhere here is it being said that WASR > Arsenal by anyone other than Arsenalfags getting buttmad.
Jesus christ guys, come on. I'm not here to make an argument for either, I'm with the DDI anons either way but you guys get so pissy about it.
>>30225345
>Clearly you've never shot an RAS-47 or I.O.
thats true. the only aks ive owned were a mak-90, a VEPR and an m77. ive shot a few wasrs as well and never had a problem.
>>30220128
You clearly dont understand that since 2014 WASR10's have been pretty good starter AKs since they fixed the QC
>>30219892
If you are going to get an AK, stay away from anything that is stamped and folded.
A cheap AK is usually a shit AK.
Milled Receivers are the way to go.
If you are going to throw away $400 on a firearm, you may as well spend another $400 to $600 on something that will take abuse and work properly, see it as an investment.
>>30225365
>"kek Arsenal QC issues are worse than the old WASR days"
>"No they aren't, and here's why."
>"WOAH WOAH hold on there friend! I'm just saying WASRs are better value! Quit being so assmad."
lol okay
>Arsenalfags will defend this on a $1000+ rifle
>>30225502
>buying from Buds
>ever
>>30220129
I own a C39V2, and can vouch for it being in the "good" category rather than the "meh" one. Not having the side mount is a downer, but a good rifle over all anyway.
Not adding or detracting from whatever shitthrowing is going on here, but
I mailed my Arsenal SLR-104 in to get it repaired today. I also asked for a circle 10 mag to cover the cost of shipping it.
Heres a nice little picture.
>inb4 dirty ass socks/room
>>30225592
How many rounds have you shot through it?
>>30225614
Dunno, my SLR-107 has been faithful to me, and it's even one of the dreaded XM55 models.
Paint has held up just fine to mag dumps. And with an AKT it is positively gucci.
>>30220129
I'd say High Standard is more in the good tier. Their Tantals are legendary with those that collect Tantals and mine has never failed me. I'm actually amazed how cheap they are and how few people own them; it's very hard to find reviews online.
>>30225622
About 400+. I know that isn't a lot, but the AK operators union gave it a decent rating and its jersey legal. It has milled receiver and the barrel is nitrite treated, sights aren't canted or anything. No issues yet, and don't really expect any either.
>>30225636
I could care less about the finish, nothing a little bit of heavy duty rattlecan can't fix.
Rust under the paint is absolutely un-fucking-acceptable though.
Canted sights, too.
Loved it with the AKT in it, though. Felt amazing.
>>30225770
Out of curiosity, did you find rust under yours?
>>30225345
IOs made after 2014 aren't that bad. On par with Wasrs now. Run the SN before you buy though. Getting an older one is all along for a mangled face.
>>30223841
>implying it N-PAPs have chromelined barrels
"No"
>>30225810
Asking for a mangled face*
Thanks autocorrect.
>>30225810
>On par with Wasrs now.
KYS, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>30225810
I wouldn't take any IO over a WASR in a million years.
>>30225795
Haven't shot it enough to find out. I don't really have a range where I can magdump without RO's breathing down my neck. Haven't seen any signs, yet. I'll let you know at a later date with the same picture.
>>30225622
Here is Nutnfancy's video on the C39V2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2by95TSOEQ
>>30226433
>nutnfancy as citation
Wew
>>30226509
From what I can gather he makes pretty solid reviews
>>30226516
I'm just going to say "No".
>>30226587
Just saying "no" isn't gonna tell me jack. Can I get a decent explanation as to why I shouldn't trust him?
>>30226600
Because he rambles on about stuff that he knows very little to nothing about. He makes up bullshit terms and is fucking autistic. He's alright for knife reviews but once it get's into guns, especially AK's, then you start to have problems. The only times he's been right were when he had a positive review on the SGL's. However don't forget that he also said that the Yugo AK's are superior to the Russian ones. Finally, the C39V2 has the same shitty bolt as the RAS-47 and thus is not safe to fire.
>>30226608
Whoa dude, alright, I can tell you are heated. I'll take what he says with a few grains of salt from now on.
And not to be that guy that says "don't worry, century fixed it!" But they have been properly heat treating the bolts and carriers on the new ones as opposed to the non existent heat treating on the old ones. Don't get me wrong, I hate century and the shit they pull, constantly having to fix their guns, even shied away from a 2015 produced wasr 10/63 because of the wasr's particular reputation. And you know what, I've changed my mind, keep the C39v2 In the meh category due to century's spotty QC over the years. Maybe I was too quick to defend the rifle because it's one of the very few that are easily made nj legal by pinning and welding the break because it doesn't have a bayonet lug.
>>30226851
They still use a shitty casting for their bolts and no amount amount of heat treat will fix that.
>>30226862
Knew I should have gotten the fucking vepr in 54r
>>30225218
What should be checked when buying an AK?
Has PSA fixed their cheap AK barrled receiver?
>>30226962
As with any firearm, one thing you should always check are the sights, make sure they aren't canted.
So much arguing in this thread. Can we all just agree that the bullshit laws/import bans are the cause of the poor AK lineup in the U.S?
>all I want to do is buy a quality, unneutered ak from izhmash.
>>30227099
I'll second that
>>30226962
Make sure the rivets are pressed right. Not standing out of the receiver like a mushroom, not crushed into the receiver leaving an indent, not cracked or otherwise misshapen.
Make sure the front sight, rear sight and gas block are straight. You can tell by looking down the rifle from butt stock to muzzle to see if they are aligned correctly. Look to see if the rear sight block is evenly spaced on the sides of the trunnion.
Check to make sure the butt stock is inserted evenly. If there is uneven space in the gap between the stock and rear of the receiver, it could mean it wasn't stamped/ milled properly.
Make sure the gas piston head isn't rubbing against the gas tube, work the action by surely pulling it to the rear and easing it forward.
If it's pre owned check the barrel throat for wear, check to see if the rifling is still good, check to see if the barrel had heavy corrosion/ pitting. Check the head spacing.
That's all I can think of.
>>30227099
>>30228493
I'll third that
>>30220000
nice bait
>>30227099
>>30228493
>>30228823
I'll vote Trump to make it actually happen.
>Make AKs great again.
>>30229336
>"I will overturn every last one of Obama's executive orders on day one"
>mfw all I could think about was $300 saigas pouring across the border again
>>30229336
TRUMP 2016
MAKE AK's GREAT AGAIN
>>30220021
>>30229299
DURRRRRR DUR
Stuff I don't agree with is bait.
Nothing he said was wrong or inflammatory.
>>30228803
>Look to see if the rear sight block is evenly spaced on the sides of the trunnion.
How important is this? None of the kits I've bought where the RSB is still attached to the barrel has had it evenly spaced between the trunnion, and embarrassingly enough, a few of my builds aren't exactly centered either.
Pic is of my last Bulgarian kit, it's not even close to centered.
>>30221328
Well I thought it was funny you kill joy.
>>30227099
dubs of truth
>>30219892
I just bought this. Haven't heard a single bad review of any of them. https://www.classicfirearms.com/amd-65-7-62x39-rifle-with-side-fold-stock-and-black-poly-pistol-grips
>>30231328
I would call it okay if there is at least space on both sides.
>>30228803
Thanks anon I've been looking at AKs recently and wasn't sure what to look for for problems since it would be my first.
>>30232321
I want one but can't find any info!
>>30220129
What are my options for an ak chambered in 5.56mm? Anything under 800$?
>>30236492
WASR-3, mags are hard to find
>>30236492
>5.56mm
>$800 budget
>Wants an AK platform
