This is the FV3034, better known as the Challenger 2
What do you think?
I'm British and I HATE it
>thermal duct taped to gun
>rifled gun 3 piece ammo
>shitty ammo storage
>slow
>fucked up special armour layout
>british so all the fucking britboos suck its dick
good things:
the suspension
I don't even think it looks cool
and by fucked up special armour layout I mean leaving the lower glacias un armoured entirely what the FUCK
leopard 2 armours both
Abrams armours only lower, but atleast the upper doesn't look retarded as hell with that channel down to the driver periscope
>>30214547
>I'm British and I HATE it
You act like being from the same place as it somehow makes you an expert in it
>>30214569
>I mean leaving the lower glacias un armoured entirely what the FUCK
That's not true in the slightest, you absolute cretinous retard.
>>30214569
>and by fucked up special armour layout I mean leaving the lower glacias un armoured entirely what the FUCK
That has since between addressed ever since that driver lost a few toes, it now has a huge chunk of Dorchester there.
>>30214591
idiot: they only recently armoured it in an upgrade package AFTER it proved to be a problem. It's still a problem with the basic design.
>>30214614
Allow me to educate you.
They upgraded the armour on that position. They didn't forget to have anything there to begin with. The entire vehicle is armoured by the nature of its construction.
You've seen something, not understood it but run with it anyway, and now you're here.
>>30214547
>I'm British and I
Whenever someone starts with their nationality as a point of credibility (on an anonymous forum no less) you can instantly tell they know fuck all.
>>30214569
>I mean leaving the lower glacias un armoured entirely what the FUCK
You're underage aren't you. I mean you're wrong here and you write like a fucktard.
>>30213850
I think thats the FV3034, better known as the Challenger 2
>>30214634
>The entire vehicle is armoured by the nature of its construction.
LOL
moron
>>30214668
dumb idiot
>>30213850
Why did they put the thermal on top of the mantlet?
>>30214709
>>30214691
Keep digging that hole my underage friend
>>30214743
you're stupid
>>30214746
This is amazing, sixteen posts in and you're already broken!
>>30214547
>I'm British and I HATE it
The Eternal Anglo strikes again.
Challenger 2 really is no good though. Only got exports to Oman, and failed every other bid to Abrams or Leopard.
>>30214800
>and failed every other bid to Abrams or Leopard
What other bids
>>30214806
You don't think the world's 2nd largest arms exporter tried to export their premier tank?
I can't tell if you are being serious or not. It was and is a lemon, either due to performance or expense.
>>30214836
So if there were so many bids where else was it offered?
>>30214806
>>30214842
greece, australia to name two
scandinavia
Saudi Arabia as well
>>30214743
But seriously, you are a retard if you think a tank is armored on all sides equally.
And the lower glacis on a Challenger 2 is just a steel plate, which is covered with a block of composite armor (along with the hull/turret sides) when it has TES equipped.
>>30214842
BAE internally must have thought it was so bad they didn't bother trying, there is no other reason to believe the 2nd largest defense exporting company after Lockheed Martin wouldn't try to sell their tank if it was any good. Evidently it wasn't.
>>30213850
it's no Leo2 A6M, but you still should have brought em to Helmand
>>30213850
Challenger 2 is getting upgraded. I would really like to see it adopt surplus turrets from the m1a1s, or at least the guns.
http://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2016/01/cr2-upgrade-contenders.html
>>30214936
t-thank you for your service?
>>30213850
>HESH
I really want to see a modern up-to-date tank in action get shot by hi-tech antitank weapons.
>>30216422
An excellent utility/demolition round? The US uses it as well.