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Is it just me or does this axe look too finely machined to be something used in a pseudo-medieval setting?
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>>30194102
It's literally just a carved and polished shaft and a chunk of beaten and shaped steel.

Serious question, anon. Are you retarded?
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>>30194102
A little bit. The shaping of the head looks too much like an American design especially with the curved handle. I am no professional in this but it just doesn't look right for the region.
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it looks like a standard wood ax picked up from a fleamarket or something.
that said considering the rest of their weapons and armor in got theres no reason that ax couldnt exist with their tech
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>>30194111
Da fuck?

Look at the head. It doesn't look "beaten and shaped", it looks like it was made by a robot on an assembly line.
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>>30194138
>ye olde blacksmithing has to look like shit
Yeah, fuck off.
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Making squared edges with a good hammer and anvil is not that hard.
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>>30194102

They could make it like that, it just depends on the weapon smith, if he wants to put that much time and effort into it.
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Google hand made axes or tomahawks. Tons of them look far more precise and intricate than this.
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>>30194229

Even modern "hand forged" (actually stamped on an industrial hammer) axes look much rougher.

You can't get an axe to look like that without shaving the sides down with huge belt sanders.
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>>30194264
>I have never done any blacksmithing in my life
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Could go with an older design like this, but even in the 7th century it'd mostly be found in very poor and remote areas.
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My only real complaint is that they are using a forest axe for carpentry work.
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Pretty easy to do on the forge, wouldn't even need the a wheel for that effect.
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>>30194255
It's not about intricacy at all. It's about the process. To get rid of the pits and scale and imperfections in the steel you need to run it against a belt until it's all rubbed away. ffs just type "axe how it's made" in youtube you dumb fuck. Medieval blacksmiths did not make axes that way.

For that matter I actually like the look of the scale on hand-forged tools.
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Or maybe something that uses as little metal as possible, though this design was just to make a cheap trade good for primitive natives.
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>>30194347
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Holy shit OP just wait until you see the swords.
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All the swords they have are brought to a mirror polish. And you think they couldn't make an axe head that looks like that.
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>>30194347
The belt sanders used in industrial processes are used because it is cheaper to do that on a large scale. Not because it is required.
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>>30194102
No, but it does look modern in other ways
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>>30194347
Pitted surfaces in most antiques got that way from oxidation the tool was not originally like that. When you see it in reproductions that is an intentional effect because fudds think it looks cool.
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>>30194264
>Whats a grinding wheel

Nigga the head on my axe is smooth as a pedo's shaved ass. If you think that a smooth axe head can't be achieved with 20 minutes on a grinding wheel, you're going to have to go see a doctor for clinical retardation.
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>>30194400
You have no idea what you're talking about.

I have a Wetterlings axe. You can see the hammer strikes and dimples, scale, pits, and gunk all over the surface of the steel. And this is made with a billet of a modern alloy, which is certainly a lot purer in a metallurgical sense than whatever was available in the Middle Ages.

Modern mass produced axes, like the one in that screenshot, are punched out of a giant press then sanded smooth. That thing would have been a complete mystery to medieval blacksmiths. You bet your ass Lindybeige is going to do a video on this.
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>game of thrones
Is that shit any good?
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>>30194457
That is done intentionally because there is a market for it.
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>>30194471
fuck yeah but the books are way better.

The audiobooks are the best way to go. They are really good. If you have never read the books, I would almost recommend not reading them until the series is finished because that's going to be a bitch of a cliffhanger.

If you like history it's great.
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>>30194493
That's how an axe looks when it's not processed further after it's hammer forged you idiot.

JUST
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>>30194471
No the witcher books are way better. And the show started out good but the plot is so scattered most episodes now are 20 2 minute story checkups
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>>30194471
It's pretty shit to be honest.
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>>30194471
John snow dies
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>>30194794
>>30194729
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>>30194515
Don't they have retarded shit like fantasy monsters and that shit?
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>>30194844
...it's part of the fantasy genre. You might as well be asking if a western has cowboys.
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>>30194102
i can do literally anything you can do with modern tools with hand tools. In fact some hand tools produce better results.
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>>30194950
It's not for me then. I don't like children stuff.
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>>30194844
there's dragons yeah but mostly that's irrelevant.

if you hate magic stuff you probably want to read Pillars of the Earth. It's a similar setting to game of thrones with no magic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pillars_of_the_Earth
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>>30194986
>I don't like children stuff.
>GoT
>Children's stuff
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>>30194989
Thanks bud

>>30195022
Yeah as far as I know they've lots of nudity, blood and sex scenes but still I can't cope with all fantasy stuff. I do hate that kind of things.

I hate anime too btw.
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>>30194264

That roughness is intentional you retarded autist, that is the aesthetic, have you ever looked at a fucking historical sword? Or armor? do they look like mangled pieces of garbage?


Pic related, Henry Frederick prince of wales field armor
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>>30194525
>>30194457
stupid fucking moron, go look at medieval weapons, armour and tell me it looks all shitted up like your fucking stupid 'waoh handmade' shit that you fell for you fucking IDIOT
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b b-b-b-bbut my shitty intentionally shtted up axe is totally better than what those morons in medieval times could cook up
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idiot
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>tfw op is mentally retarded
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>>30195214

Nice try mallknight.
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Summer is fucking here. Hooray.
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this is steel damascened with gold from fucking late 1400's


I even got a fucking axe to be specific
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>>30194457
>Lindybeige is going to do a video on this.
fuck off

>>30194457
>I have a Wetterlings axe. You can see the hammer strikes and dimples, scale, pits, and gunk all over the surface of the steel.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>30195199
Yes, because your cherry-picked example, the armor of Sigismund of Tyrol that was made by the most talented member of literally the best family of traditional blacksmiths (the Helmschmeids) in human history, proves that your average munitions-tier weapon/armor was outwardly indistinguishable from a modern one.
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I don't know what all you fags are arguing about? I can get cooler shit at the mall and a Blizzard...................
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>>30194102
Only the handle does
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>>30195199
>>30195214
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>>30195127
Yes, because that's such a good example of what a peasant would use for splitting wood.
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>>30195362
one of the dummy's in this thread was arguing that no blacksmith could even reproduce his shitty pitted, dented garbage novelty axe because even that was made with modern steel by expert blacksmith with modern technology LOL
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lol this one is SEVENTH century
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>>30194471
Kinda sorta. This season is sorta making up for the previous shit, even if the story is suddenly moving a million miles a minute. Season 1 remains at least to me the best of the bunch. You should also try the books.
>>30194844
Well its medieval fantasy, what did you expect?
>>30194986
>>30195062
Its not even noticeable in a lot of episodes. A lot of the show is more focused on medieval style politicking and the occasional battle or two.
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>>30195369
That guy is a retard, but the people posting plate armor as a rebuttal are nearly as dumb. It's like they don't understand that the production of plate armor made extensive use of water powered machinery and that only the finishing work and adjustments were done solely by hand, to say nothing of the fact that something strictly medieval would be from the 13th century or earlier.

A better example would be something like an Ulfberht or Guojian's sword.
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>>30195406
A better example of what could be done solely by hand*

is what I meant to say.
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>>30194102
Believe it or not, back in the day, when people spent what was a proportionally large some of money on a piece of their livelihood, the smiths did a fine job on making the surface somewhat uniform and getting out all the tool marks. It was a part of their craft.
Sure there were tons of cheap tools made back then that had plenty of pitting, hammer marks, scale, etc..., but there was also a good amount of tools where the people who made them had the time and faculties to put forth a satisfactory amount of craftsmanship.
The majority of antique tools you see are hundreds of years old and made from inferior metals and forged with cruder techniques. There's obviously going to be at least some pitting and gunk on every tool that could be considered a true antique.
To reiterate, while there were a bunch of shitty tools with imperfections in the metal, there were just as many tools by the end of the era of blacksmithing that had a level of craftsmanship put into them that got rid of these flaws.
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>>30195062
>>30194986
>anything that requires suspension of disbelief or any amount of imagination is children stuff
How many parties do you get invited to?
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>>30195248
top kek
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>>30194138
You really don't know how smithing works huh
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Adding another pair of really old axes
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>>30194126
Well it is an American design. While the fit and finish are believable, the design is not. Weighted polls were not a thing anywhere in the old world or in ancient history.
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OP, are you the kind of guy who thinks ayy's were the ones who built all our ancient monuments? Because there's a preconceived notion that past modern era, human civilization were all cavemen who were open mouth drooling and hit things with other things?

Damn, can you imagine you and your family, working your fucking ass off to accomplish something great, only to have your descendants discredit you and think you were all retards?
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>>30194102
>axe too finely machined
>fucking swords everywhere
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>>30197757

Considering the setting is different from Europe, it's not like they couldn't have happened upon that design earlier than we did by chance.
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>>30197855
What, you're telling me that Nepal isn't part of Europe?
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>>30197808

The morons dont understand the only difference between people from 10.000 (10,000) years ago and ones from today, is accumulated knowledge/technology.
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>>30197882
As a kukri fag seeing this made me happy.
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>>30194102
Oh for fucks sake, /tv/ get the shit out.

I remember last time your ilk came here talking about axes.
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>>30197897
Based Bronn
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>>30194102
Yes we all can see that you are a /tv/ fag and see that steel ring punched into the stock to held the head in place..
No go back where you came from...
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>they couldnt get smooth surfaces in medieval times
thou art dumbest
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>>30195127
>>30195199
>16th Century Armor
>Medieval
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Really fancy ornate axes, swords, and armor were made back before medieval times. The Celts, Romans, Greeks, Persians, and various African empires/tribes (Including Carthage, obviously.) were making fancy things.

And even a peasant's axe was fairly well made. They may have even made them, themselves.

I understand that they were using bronze for much of that, but similar techniques could be applied to iron and steel. It just took more time or slightly different tools.
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>>30200608
>And even a peasant's axe was fairly well made. They may have even made them, themselves.
I think that modern people tend to miss out on the realities of being a peasant with an agrarian lifestyle, such as there being long stretches of the year that aren't full of hard labor, so peasants can spend their time making nice things for themselves such as tools, clothing, various folk artworks, et cetera. It wasn't continuous backbreaking labor all year long and the hardest work was only a few weeks a year during harvest and planting.
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>>30195387
that thing looks like crap.
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One blow from a big waffle face framing hammer vs a good suit of armor.

Who wins?
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>>30201737
the person who sold both to you
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>>30201744
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>>30197757
Good thing it's in westeros and not fucking England then
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