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Does your branch's counterintelligence service still dress up in trench coats like they're pic related?

>>30184419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcXNL-96WxE

What are some cool guys school to go to in the army?

Already airborne and air assault. What's another school I can request?Thinking about pathfinder/mountain warfare then Ranger.

Ultimate goal is SFAS, but want to learn a lot before hand.

>>30184486
they brought back jungle apparently
what about sniper?

Asking again because last thread wasn't really pointing me anywhere

TL;DR my recruiter told me to lie about an old vandalism charge from when I was 15, I made it through MEPS, no hiccups, he says my FBI check from MEPS came up clean
I wasn't fingerprinted or arrested for the charge, and I did a juvenile diversion program, I never even had to have a trial. I ship off in a couple days, am I fucked?

>>30184486
>>30184519

Yeah, you know, you should just get that engineering degree before you swing over to law school and then finish up an MD/PhD program across town before getting your MBA. I mean, if you're just looking to grab cool certifications that don't really jive with one another then do whatever.

>>30184534
do you need a clearance?
>>30184540
he might as well become a chaplain too.

>>30184578
Infantry, I might need a Secret clearance

>>30184588
you will never need a secret as infantry lol

Halfway through an History degree and I'm considering dropping out to join the military. Lost a good scholarship, and from this point forward I'll probably have to take out around 10k a year in loans a year to continue. I enjoy studying history, but I honestly don't think this degree is going to be worth the ~20k I'll be in debt when I graduate.

I would've went with the military straight out of high school if it hadn't been for that scholarship. Should I just drop out now to join up, and maybe use the G.I. Bill to pay for the rest of college (and maybe a Master's) once I get out?

>when former military cannot find job
Former green beret thinks we all want sympathy. Lol. Fuckin silent proffesional my ass. Do you just troll job sites talkin shit under that screen name hoping some NG privates gonna jump through you monitor and suck your asshole?? Or wait….your chris kyle- matt bassonete material. Silent but loud, proffesional but disgracfull to your team…….you could wear a fucking solid gold beret with diamonds like the elton john blowing bitch you are, but to claim some just want hand outs. Man, I dont know how you made it in the army shit talking your commrades like that. Its disgracfull…..worse than chris kyles lies in his books, or the two glory hounds from seal team six bragging about shooting bin ladin. Its not silent (which your shitty opinion should be) or proffesional. You should have joined the russain military. They would like your brutal anti team mentality.

Active Duty to Service Academy

What should I be doing and is it common?

>>30184637
Are you certain mate? I've been told that some Infantrymen on combat deployments need them

>>30184661

>drop out

Or, and I stress or, you ride out the next two years, go 20k into debt, then pay it off when you commission as an officer for a substantially higher pay grade that will cover the difference in a matter of years.

>>30184695
If you go this route make SURE you keep a good enough GPA to actually commission

>>30184540
I just want some uniform candy, goddamn it.

Is it true that a civilian can earn a slot for WOCS?

My question is, is it possible to get a slot for WOCS in your contract?

I've always had the impression that a WO rank gets snagged by E5+ members, that is, only enlisted can earn the rank.

>>30184661
ROTC, nigger.

R. O. T. C.

There's still time, I think. Does your university have an ROTC program? They'll put you in a LTC program before you take your electives.

would a weed waiver ruin any chances at becoming intel? im fucking stressing out about this shit i dont have anything on my record but i dont want to lie and it come out down the road and fuck my shit up

>>30184705
Ah, might already be fucked then. What kind of GPA must you have to commission? I think I'm at like 3.3 right now.

>>30184766
As long as the waiver clears you through MEPS you're good. Just do not lie on your clearance paperwork and you're golden.

>>30184766
Pretty much everyone MI guy in my unit smoked or has smoked weed before. You don't need a waiver man just don't lie if they ask when getting a clearance.

>>30184772
3.3 is okay, since you're not studying STEM I would say try and get it up to like 3.6

>>30184791
so how would lieing to meps but not the SF-86 play out? i wouldnt do that but im curious

>>30184772
You're good then, but just make sure you keep the GPA over 3.0.

>might already be fucked then
That's some mighty fine self-defeating mentality, son. Grow some balls, or better yet, take inventory of your situation before throwing your hands in the air and saying "fuck it".

>>30184692
If nothing popped up at meps you should be good for getting a secret clearance. Pretty sure base infantry doesn't require one. Now if you're 75th or deploy with Group that's a different story.

>>30184827
All right, thanks anon.

>>30184814
Yeah it would my buddy was the biggest smoker ever. He's 35 series and lied to MEPS but was truthful getting his TS. You do realize if smoking a blunt disqualified you from SOF/Intel there wouldn't be any left.

Not a recruiter so I don't know how "weed" waivers work but if it doesn't get cleared there goes your military career before it starts.

>>30184358
>made an appointment for next Friday with a muhween recruiter
>have no idea what the fuck to ask him

I'll tell him the MOS I want but aside from that I have no idea what to ask.

Has anyone been in this situation before?

>>30185115
He'll be asking all the questions. Tell him what field you want to sign for, your medical/criminal history, and from there it's a straightforward process.

>>30185115
just think of questions, remember your recruiter is not your best friend and is looking out for himself most of the time. That being said some recruiters are genuinely good guys.

start writing down questions you may have.

>>30184899
>Not a recruiter so I don't know how "weed" waivers work but if it doesn't get cleared there goes your military career before it starts.
fuck this is the shit that gets me stressed, i would be fucking devastated if i got denied over some fucking weed

>>30185470
you wont man, as long as you can prove you havent smoked in a while and dont plan on doing it again, my dad has a TS clearance and told the investagator he smoked when he was a kid and it was no big deal, just dont get caught lying to them.

if you want to lie to meps and not pursue a top secret then go right the fuck ahead meps wont know if you smoked pot unless you pop a test.

>>30184766

It won't, if you tell the truth. You will be nailed.

Don't think being honest means they will think you're forthright.

Just lie like a fucking man.

is it hard to get in as a biomedical equipment tech, cybersystems, aerospace med tech, or bioenvironmental engineering tech

>>30185115
I'm in the same situation except I'm just walking in tomorrow to try and schedule an ASVAB test to see what jobs I get.

How many questions can I miss to get 85+?

>>30185741
what does this even mean

>>30184358
What do I need to do to become a helicopter pilot in the coast guard or air force?

>>30186668
Also, does celiac prevent you from joining?

>>30186675
Yes
If you want to fly you need a degree unless it's army

Does the Navy tend to set aside ship service for the more 'polished' and fit sailors?

I want serve in the Navy, and being shore bound would not bother me depending on my rate, but I8heard being deployed is very possible.

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Ok my bois I am new to /meg/ which branch between the Army and the Marines am I most likely to land a combat mos that gets me deployed? I want the grunt experiences (inb4 hurr durr you dont want to die for jews do you?)

Are these decent jobs?

4A2 biomedical equipment tech
3D0x2 cyber systsems
4n0x1 aerospace med tech
4b0x1 bioenvironmental engineering

trying to find something with civilian financial security

>>30184588
Yes, you may need one. If you end up in a Stryker unit you will definitely get one

>>30184486
Jump master if you meet the reqs, Squad Designated Marksman is fun, the Javelin course is cool also. German Proficiency Badge if your unit does that

>>30188598
not much of a war going on atm, go 03xx id imagine theyd be the first ones there if shit pops off besides spec ops

So I went to a psych for depression after my dad died. Will they know that I did that shit at MEPS?

Do you have to attend all poolee functions? I live an hour+ away from my nearest recruiting stations.

I've got some questions about security clearances, anyone have any xp with them?

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Blurted about recent medication at another recruiter again.

May my body be ready when my mind is.

I'm interested in seeing what jobs I qualify for. Can I ask a recruiter to schedule an appointment to JUST take an ASVAB test? I'm reading a lot about how people are getting physical examinations, ASVAB testing, and swearing in on the same day.

>>30189947
Yup, you can go talk to them and just take the asvab

>>30190004
>30190004
Really? I'm being told by others that it's a waste of their time, and they won't let me. I think I'm set on joining, but I'm not comfortable getting put into a job I don't want. I also still need to research more jobs I'm interested in, since I hear that you have to list 10 that you want.

>>30190030
Just let them know you're interested and you need to take the asvab. Get your scores and tell them you need to mull over mos choices

>>30190030
Mine gave a mock asvab in recruiters office just to have a general idea what my scores would be. Probably to see if I was a waste of time or not. I bet you could Google one.

>>30188583
Dont know what you're asking but lets say you were a MA. You get shore duty you will not get deployed 100%. It applies to all rates if you somehow get shore duty first enlistment.

Is going reserve a good idea during peace time? Im hoping to switch to active if shit pops off or not.
Also is it worthwhile to go tanker? Im a manlet and tanks are fucking awesome.

>>30188583
>set aside ship service
Completely untrue, everyone basically goes to a ship there first rotation minus a few exceptions. Ma being one of them like >>30190169
said.
>being deployed is very possible.
Again its guranteed, deploying in the navy isnt like other branches. The navy still deploys ships constantly even though we arent at war. Especially west coast to keep an eye on North Korea and China.
What jobs/rates did you have in mind?

>>30190249
It's harder to "switch to active" than it is to just go active in the first place. If you want to be active, don't join the reserves/guard.

>>30190785
Not sure the right, but culinary specialist is something that I've considered.

>>30191346
>Not sure the right
What?
>culinary specialist
Well if you like cooking have at it.

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>>30191346
>culinary specialist is something that I've considered
Reconsider it.

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>>30184766
Trust me, people here have smoked weed and gotten waivers for it. Tell them when they ask and as long as it wasn't after you first talked to your recruiter you should be fine.

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>West Point Academy graduate
>8 years as an 18A Special Force Officer
>Is now in Stanford, so he will be making more money than everyone in this thread combined

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvc5aGMxSM

Why aren't you as elite as this guy, faggots?

>>30191444
If i have an AA degree in Arabic, can i still study arabic in DLI or will be i assigned a language?

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>>30191457
He gets to go to West Point
He gets to be a Chad
He gets to command other operators because he is bigdick operator
He goes to the best school on Earth
He will be in a high powered position at all moments of his life

Life isn't fair

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>>30191473
it depends on your service.
if you're a marine, then i can promise that you'll be assigned a language in the dumbest possible manner. hth

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>>30191457
>there are only two prior enlisted fags in the entire 2016 class of Stanford

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ENLISTED FAGS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>30191537
im gonna meet that dude in a month probably
wonder if hes a cool dude

>>30191537
The GI Bill only pays a certain amount of tuition, less than what Stanford costs I'm sure. So they either got grants, took student loans, or had a rich mommy or daddy. The thing withholding enlisted from Stanford is much more likely economics rather than capability.

>>30191505
well, shit. I guess i would also be randomly assigned a language if i ever made it into SF as i have heard multiple people be assisnged random languages when they knew 60% of another language.

>>30191599
>The GI Bill only pays a certain amount of tuition, less than what Stanford costs I'm sure.
>What is the yellow ribbon program

>>30191644
Not every school does it, and mine only has 7 slots...

I don't think Ivy League do that, or if they do Stanford probably has... 2 slots.

>>30191599

Stanford covers the difference in tuition, plus the GI Bill will kick out about $30k-40k to live on.

Not that it matters. Top level schools don't actually deny people who deserve to be there based on finances. Almost all of them will pay 100 % of your tuition if you make it into the school on talent/intelligence alone. The only people who actually shell out ridiculous amounts of money for top-tier schools are people buying their way in who are already upper-class and just continuing a family legacy. Rich kids subsidize poor smart kids.

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>>30191676
>yellow ribbon program
On the Stanford veteran's webpage it says "LOL"

http://admission.stanford.edu/application/veterans/aid.html

What did they mean by this?

>>30191720
OK, good for them. But like I said, how many slots do they have? Because my mid sized state campus has 7 slots first come first serve. Their webpage looks similar, they never advertise how many they allow. Only they are a proud member of the program, it's a PR thing.

Not like any of you are going to Stanford anyway.

>>30191701
This. If your family makes less than $125,000/yr then Stanford gives you a free ride anyways. You can absolutely combine this with the GI Bill and get paid a nice little salary to go to college. The trick is getting accepted.

>>30191789
How would a military enlistedfag get accepted? Singlehandedly rescue Detroit from poverty?

>>30191821

Yeah, yeah, your bait is tasty and all, but the smartest fuckers I met in uniform were all enlisted autists working at intelligence agencies.

>>30191676
>2 slots.
what do you know, 2 enlisted go there.
>>30191821
The same way everyone else did, good grades in highschool plus SAT or ACT.
>Not like any of you are going to Stanford anyway.
You couldnt be more wrong. I served with a girl who was obviously enlisted like me and she is no shit at Columbia right now. Obviously i mean the ivy league not the fucking country. Its not common but there are plenty of smart enlisted.

I've been reading up about enlisting in the air force. It looks like a lot of people are saying that you swear in and pick your job at BMT. What if they give me one of those open contracts? Should I just accept it? People say that they can get dropped for not accepting them. So do I have no real room for negotiations? Also, what if they push me for 6 year contracts?

>>30191888
Maybe that's why I said it, dullard.

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>>30191601
I was a lat mover (1371) NCO, native level proficient in Russian and scored 3/3 in Ukrainian (though I don't speak it). I was assigned Pashto. One of my fellow lat mover (admin) NCOs was also a native Russian speaker, also assigned Pashto. Another fellow NCO native Russian speaker assigned Farsi. At the same time, three 0311 lat movers with no foreign language background were assigned to Russian.

>>30191911
Ya well whatever

>>30191950
Oh wow, i am actually native proficient in pashto and farsi. So i am thinking i should not even mention that i know a decent amount of arabic so that they would assign to me? Because if they know i am proficient in those languages then they would rather have me learn another one but i would rather be useful with a critical language now than later.

>>30189582
You don't have to.
Just be straight with them, or make up some bullshit.

Give it to me straight, guys. If I enlist as infantry, what are my chances of actually doing something cool or travelling to other parts of the world?
Or is it more realistic to assume I'll be sitting around a base in the middle of nowhere, bored out of my mind?

>>30184358
I've been thinking of joining up for a while now, but I've got too much going on in my life at the moment to worry about being deployed.

So I was looking into reserves, but I'm not sure which branch is best for avoiding deployment until I get my life squared away, while still receiving some kind of firearms/combat training.

I was thinking of maybe going for GM in either the Coast Guard or the Navy, but what are the odds of being able to do that while still being in the reserves? If I can do some combat or infantry related mos in either the Army or the Marines with low odds of being deployed, I'd jump on that too, but that doesn't seem likely.

Basically I'm looking for a reserves infantry/combat related mos that won't get me deployed anytime soon. Branch doesn't really matter. I've been Googling shit all day and don't feel like I've made much progress, so before I talk to a recruiter, I thought I'd see what you guys thought.

>>30193065
for now its pretty much the latter but who knows whats gonna pop off in the next few years

>>30193503
Well shit... I don't wanna sit around being bored the whole time.
And I'm not sure anything else appeals to me besides infantry.
I don't know what to do.

>>30193634

Well, see, heres the thing bud.

You join the Army Infantry, you get good ASVAB scores, you're motivated, you got good work ethic, you train hard, you get good PFT scores, and you're not a shitkunt, there should be no reason why you cant go Ranger or go into one of the several schools you can volunteer for. You never know when something is gonna kick off and the 75th are always into something, even if its training.

Compared to the Marines you get out of your Infantry specialization school or whatever and you get thrown in a dark room for 3 or so years and whenever you try to get past Lcpl or want into something neat they say "Hey, fuck you cunt, you wait until next enlistment."

If you like training and conditioning, rucking and running, now is a prime time for Infantry.

>>30193729
That is an option I had considered, I just didn't say it because everyone who talks about it gets shit on and told they'll never make it.

Also, when going infantry, what are the chances of being stationed overseas?

>>30193392
>I've got too much going on in my life at the moment to worry about being deployed.
Like what???
Reserves sucks ass just wait to square away whatever problems you got then go active. You wont regret doing it this way.

Does affirmative action, and I use the term somewhat loosely, exist in the things like ROTC and the academy?

Obviously googling has a lot of results, but maybe someone has some experience.

I spoke with an AF Rotc detachment today, and he mentioned something about me being hispanic as good, but he didn't go on further, and I didn't ask.

I want to do ROTC, but I really don't want people to think I'm only here because I'm a minority or whatever.

>>30193899
>but I really don't want people to think I'm only here because I'm a minority or whatever.
Then dont give them the opportunity to think so.
If you have excellent grades and are very physically fit that will shut up all the nay-sayers. Also dont be a pussy who cares what other people think. Grow some balls.

>>30193926
I'd imagine what your peers think about you is important in the military

>>30193951
>I'd imagine what your peers think about you is important in the military
It is, thats why im saying if you are ahead of the pack not only will they not doubt you but they will be impressed. Show them you earned it and it simply wasnt givin to you because you are a minority or whatever. Study hard and work out intensely. Then no one will have any reason to doubt you.

>>30193965
Not even that anon, but I think AA in the military should be fucking illegal.

>>30193814
>That is an option I had considered, I just didn't say it because everyone who talks about it gets shit on and told they'll never make

Fuck em'. Do what you want. No point in being on this Earth if you want to play it safe and make everybody happy. If someone is that asinine to be genuinely unhappy you're asking a question, theres nothing you can do for them, God bless em and pray they get along in life.

That said, I never make my real intentions known on the internet, even on an anonymous forum. No point in blogging and the info youget here can all be googled.

>>30193882
>Like what???
College, more than anything. I've fucked around for 2 years after dropping out, and I really just need to do it at this point. I feel like if I wait any longer I'll never do it.

>Reserves sucks ass just wait to square away whatever problems you got then go active. You wont regret doing it this way.
Yeah, I've been hearing that too, just looking at other websites with people asking similar questions. I just really want a jump start without leaving everything behind. What do you think of ROTC?

>>30194004
Thanks for the motivation, anon

>>30193991
>I think AA in the military should be fucking illegal
AA?
Alcoholics anonymous?
What does that have to do with what we are talking about?
>>30194006
>College
Why? If you go enlisted not only wont you need a degree but if you want one you can get one for free while in with TA.
>>30194006
>What do you think of ROTC
I dont know much about it cause i was enlisted but if you are heart set on being an oficer do what you gotta do.
>without leaving everything behind
Why??? Imo thats the best part about joining. You get to go somewhere completely new and leave everything behind for a fresh start. Its much easier that way and way more fun.

>>30193729
I don't give advice about shit I don't know so I'd advise you shouldn't. If anything in the peacetime corps infantry he can expect MEUs. They condition and train pretty hard for them.

We get plenty of classes and specialized training. Maybe less opportunity than big Army but I've been to plenty. We also get lots of training at the unit lvl that is stuff had at schools just condensed into a work week.

The only point you have is the ladder up to 75th or other SF. But it's not impossible in Marines either.

>>30194043
>Why? If you go enlisted not only wont you need a degree but if you want one you can get one for free while in with TA.
Actually I've got tuition reimbursement at the company I work for. I haven't paid a dime for my degree so far

Other than that, I think you and I just have different ways of looking at this stuff. That's not a bad thing, though. I'm definitely open to doing things the way you're suggesting, I just want to know what my options are.

I'll probably talk to a recruiter in the next week or so, but in the meantime, is there anything you can tell me about reserves? I'd wait and ask a recruiter, but a couple friends of mine who are enlisted got fucked over by their recruiters and I'd rather hear what people who have been through everything have to say first.

By the way, what do you think of being a Navy or Coast Guard GM vs. some infantry specialization in the Marines or Army?

>>30184827
>>30184637

You need a secret to sit in a stryker as marine infantry, it is extremely common for an 03 to have one.

Not sure if you were army and things are different over there or you're just a lying faggot.

>>30194190
>got fucked over by their recruiters
I gurantee thats your friends fault. I say that cause you gotta realize a recruiter isnt your friend. He has billets to fill you if you go in not knowing exactly what you want then you will get fucked.
>Navy or Coast Guard GM
As far as navy jobs go GM is pretty good. Depends what you want out of it though i suppose. I knew plenty on my ship and most of em liked it. At the end of the day it just comes down to what you like doing.

Six months into the air force officer process, haven't heard from my recruiter in a month. The last thing she told me was that the "position number" has been assigned to me.

Shit is gay. And they wonder why so many people get frustrated and go do something else with their lives, and why they are having issues filling out the af officer corps.

>>30194043
Affirmative action.

>>30194036

No problem brother. We're all gonna make it.

>>30194322
Ohhhh i see and of course i agree but when that applies to women its so much worse. Women in the military are complete scum and human garbage. They have it so easy and will do anything to get ahead.

>>30194087

I'm not trying to talk out my ass, just saying what I have heard from scuttlebutt and other people talking, and yeah, nah, I dont think I am wrong for saying that the Marines fuck you over for no reason other than to maintain an aggressive mentality. There is a REASON that the Marines wont promote you past Lcpl on first enlistment anyway.

Also, there is plenty of sense in what they do. The Marines have some 30K people compared to the Army's 500K, its not hard to imagine that the reason for the Marines being such a difficult process to move through being mathematical.

And if you would please list the equivalents to volunteer training programs like Airborne, Sapper, Air Assault, etc. I would be happy to hear it because it would help me form a better opinion than what I have now.

>>30194494
>The Marines have some 30K people
So bad i cringed

>>30194322

>i was almost forced to concede your point but due to you making a mistake regarding exact numbers (even though the general point remains precisely the same) i am now able to red herring you out of useful discussion

ur toxic

>>30194494
>There is a REASON that the Marines wont promote you past Lcpl on first enlistment anyway.

Former 0311 4 year corporal, nice to meet you. it occurs slower, most guys who don't get out e4 were shitbags or NJP'd.

>Marines have some 30K people compared to the Army's 500K

Wrong... Google is your friend. You are way off on our military numbers.

>And if you would please list the equivalents to volunteer training programs like Airborne, Sapper,

Sapper would be an 0351 in the Marines. They attend same school, different MOS. I did Intel, specialized CSI, and UAV. Also Mountain Warfare.

>Air stuff

If you want to jump go Army. But that's like 1% of the job.

>>30194620
wut

>>30194638

Can you lads attend a sapper school if it isnt your MOS?

>>30194653

You might not be the person i was talking to

>>30194686
I meant 0351 Assault men goto same school as 0311's, SOI.

We cross train with Machine Gunners and Mortars but don't really get to fuck with the explosives.

My buddy was an 0351 and let me mold c4 into a Bangalore with him tho.

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these are questions about being part of a tank crew

>what are the requirements

>what is it like being in an abram for long periods of time.

>How often are you in combat

>when you are in combat how often are you met with a threat that could decommision the tank

>what do you do on a regular basis both deployed and on base

>what kind of gear are you given that isnt standard issue. for example how WWII tankers had special holster and were often issued the M3 Grease gun.

>>30194820
Forgot to add

>Why the fuck would you ever want to be a tanker

>>30194874
why not?

>>30194820

You will never actually go into battle with your tank, because the era of large armored warfare is over. If you deploy as a tanker, you'll leave the tanks at home because they cost a million dollars to start and are useless at hunting down sandpeople in god-forsaken desert shitholes.

Russia/China aren't going to start WW3 any time soon, and by the time that sort of power parity exists tankers will be mostly replaced with drones and lasers and shit. Tanks will be so much more effective without the gooey human-filled center and all the bullshit needed to sustain life.

>>30194233
>stryker
>marines
>lying faggot

>>30193991
>implying it should be legal anywhere
>implying someone should ever get special advantages for something they were born with

>>30195141
I agree with affirmative action based off socioeconomic status. A really really poor kid can never be expected to have have the same stats as some kid with two parent's as doctor.s

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>>30195020
Are there any armored or light armored vehicles regularly deployed, that has a combat role.

>>30195197
At least not on average. Of course there are exceptions.

>>30195201
>>30195197
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>>30194874
>>30194820
bump for interest

>>30191504
Seriously...

Where is the reset button?

Fuck I wish I had the vision back when I was a stupid kid, wasting my time playing video games.

Any 19kilobooms in the house?

Anyone here know what the most often taught languages are in the DLI currently? I ship for BMT in a week for the Air Force, AFSC 1A8X1.

I know the chances of me getting a language I actually want to learn are slim, so I'm curious about what they have actually been teaching as of late.

Hi meg, I know you get this kind of question four times a thread, but tonight is my last night before the hotel. I'm going to meps tomorrow to get a parking ticket sorted before I go in on the eight. I've had two emergency room trips and a car accident that I didn't fess up to. I'm getting a secret clearance, will any of that come up and should I try to get it sorted out tomorrow?

What's better for Navy CTN or IT rate?

>>30184358
Any corpsmen wanna give a potential HM some tips, stories etc?

None of the other rates really "help" people, or have to potential to station you anywhere, or as much potential to learn/get certs, so I'm going HM when the time is right

>>30196293
In most cases, CTN.

>>30196293
>better
What does that mean?
>CTN
Hard to get a contract for cause its a small community and the school is extremely hard.

>>30184797
There isn't that much of a difference. The gpa boost for STEM degrees is very small. A 3.6 in gender studies is worth more points on the OML than a 3.4 in engineering.

>>30197543
To add on to that, for the Navy Science/Math gets like a .5 boost or some shit. It's not even worth it unless you legitimately want to study STEM.