14.5" middy vs carbine edition
old thread >>30149344
>>30152260
Want as fuck
>>30152260
In for cisgender shitlord cocknuchers need to deliver my shit
>>30152260
Why is this a question?
>>30152260
>AR thread
>doesn't post any ARs
>>30152260
>I actually like carbine length gas system rifles, I just wish I could own one with a non-pinned 14.5" barrel without having to wait a year and paying an extra $200
>>30152279
Are you the guy shitting up battle rifle general
>>30152282
Anon pls go
>>30152274
are you rhat underage fag from the milsurp/nuggetfest threads?
>>30152277
Finally. First AR of the thread no thanks to homo OP
Correct me if this sounds wrong but I'm doing an m16a1 build.
I bought a complete upper receiver and now I need a lower. Would an Anderson arms lower with a2 stock be appropriate? Or do I need to buy a nodak lower and pop a lower parts kit in there?
Also milsurpdude, where can I find a bipod for the m16a1 like you have? The m60 one
>>30152279
because it was a topic of discussion in the last thread for a few post and i want to find a m4 ris ii and get a 14.5" carbine barrel and use my lite iii for a midgas 18" build
>>30152277
stop posting this you fucking faggot
if you don't have an AR get the fuck out
>>30152304
>A1 build
>A2 stock
>>30152293
No, it's sakuya that's fucked up /brg/.
>>30152314
The upper I bought came with an a1 trapdoor stock I plan to switch it out.
Just got out of the field
I'm going to lake havesu this weekend in Arizona, is there anywhere to shoot around there?
Wanted to build an ar pistol. Probably just going to use a brace. What is the general atf law bullshit I should worry about?
>>30152323
aaaaaaaaaaaa why
>>30152323
if you want an A1 build why would you remove the A1 stock???
>>30152326
Don't shoulder it or use a foreground and you're good m8
>>30152304
You need an A1 stock to be truly authentic. They're shorter than an A2 and kinda weird. I know guys who wear carriers a lot who throw them on their rifles as its a little more manageable than an a2. Good for manlets as well.
>>30152325
Is that a Mega lower? Really digging the magwell flaring.
>>30152326
dont shoulder it and pupper will be safe
Can I play, guys?
Recommend some aluminum mags, please.
>>30152332
I bought an m16a1 upper and the dude through in a a1 stock too. I plan on buying an Anderson rifles lower w/a2 stock and putting the a1 stock on that. sorry for the confusion
>>30152313
>>30152315
Oh
>>30152298
Yes
>>30152335
Are angled grips ok? First build. Should I just stich with 5.56 or try 6.5?
>>30152313
>>30152374
Angled grip is aow stamp witch is 5$
>>30152360
psa has d&h mags on sale for $7 all the time
>>30152365
yeah you are very confusing. why dont ya just buy a stripped anderson lower
>>30152325
>lake havesu
north east of the town is an old ww2 emergency airfield, just north east of that is a range
34°40'19.0"N 114°16'01.8"W
>>30152348
Yeah it's great it literally sucks in mags
>>30152356
Fix ur sites
>>30152313
>>30152384
Call me a retard but I don't know how to put the parts in a stripped lower correctly.
>>30152388
give me a ten digit grid in MGRS dude hehe
Anyone knows where I can get an LPK with no fire control group or grip? AIM sold out when I had shekels ready.
>>30152325
lots of blm land near there
http://publiclands.org/Get-Books-and-Maps.php?plicstate=AZ
>>30152394
>sites
faggot
>>30152403
PSA
>>30152397
YouTube.
>>30152397
it's not hard to build a lower at all....
>>30152404
>>30152388
Nice looks good I'll just get out of the car somewhere around there and shoot a little.
I want to buy some hexmags ie mememags while I'm out there.
>>30152355
>dog nigger
Do i buy the SF x300u 500 lum or 600 lum model?
Need some troubleshooting advice.
Picked up a new weatherby AR, some bulk lake city 05 ammo, and some magpul magazines. It's failing to extract like every fifth round though, any ideas? Lubed and clean as a whistle, not really sure what to look for. Will provide pictures as needed
>>30152397
ya you are retarded
>>30152398
11SQU36654943
>>30152382
Damn trying to have as little registration as possible.
Finally got my rail-mounted switch in. Thanks to the tripfags who flashed their swag until I caved.
>>30152412
>>30152414
Will I need any special tools? Can I just put it all together by hand?
>>30152422
kys?
>>30152440
>Can I just put it all together by hand?
jesus
>>30152440
Armours wrench, roll pin punch, pliers
>>30152410
I'm not even trying rite now
>>30152432
maybe a week extractor
>VLTOR A5 kit costs as much as a lower
>>30152382
no, it isnt.
>>30152436
Thanks, I can find it on my garmin that way
>>30152447
I'm not nogunz
I'm noar as of now.
I'm buying a stag arms model 2 for 600$ and digging a bush out of the ground.
>>30152304
but youre 17, how are you buying guns?
>>30152440
i pushed the trigger guard roll pin in with the corner of my desk when i built my lower....
it's not hard you just need a punch for the bolt catch roll pin really. you'll need a stock wrench as well if you're going with a collapsible.
you can buy the detent tool for the front detent if doing it inside a trash bag sounds like a hassle, or you can buy a battle arms enhanced pin set, they go in really REALLY easily.
probably forgetting something..... but they're super easy to build
>>30152451
any way to tell?
>>30152440
You need knowledge bruh, watch youtube videos of people putting together lowers and decide for yourself which tools you need. Some guys have a special tool for every pin and part, others do the whole thing with a single punch and some household shit.
Note, youtube is terrible to learn about barreling your upper though.
>>30152466
wait here is correct
11SQU50444010
>>30152470
Private transactions. I can't buy handguns yet tho sadly.
Plus an upper isn't really a firearm.
The lower is.
I could always offer to pay the rent for a month and convince my parent to "gift" me a lower
>>30152472
Oh okay
>>30152304
It's not an M-60 bipod, just a cheap pressed sheet metal one they used. Numrich has them.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/1135980.htm#1135980B
The lower and A2 stock would rightfully earn you my mockery, and that of others. Buy an A1 lower from McKay Enterprises.
www.mckay-ent.com/ar15-m16/m16-a1-lower-receiver.html
>>30152394
I planned to. I just got it that way. Still putting together a lower for it, then I'll sort my sights out.
After I finally figure out if I should Aimpoint or ACOG.
>>30152498
>Private transactions.
>>30152481
>any way to tell
Yeah, a failure to extract is how you tell. You either have an insanely dirty chamber or you just need to replace your extractor assembly.
>>30152498
>parent
I could tell you came from a single parent household
>>30152502
Thanks. I just bought a bipod. I'll buy an a1 lower from McKay and a lower parts kit. And an a1 pistol grip.
>>30152507
Not illegal to buy long guns dipshit
>>30152517
Kek. Although true. I'm not a beta though. Just uneducated on ar's. I could put together an fal no problem or an ak. But ar's confuse me.
Still newgunz here.
Trying to decide if I should get a carry pistol or an AR pistol next.
I don't really want to build an AR pistol, so I'm curious about what good brands make reliable models.
I'll be setting up a trust to convert it to an SBR and getting a can for it as I plan on using the AR for home defense.
>>30152529
it is if you are under 18
>>30152537
what guns do you own already?
>>30152382
>angled grip is AOW
No
>stamp witch (sic) is $5
Not to manufacture you fucking idiot, manufacture is still 200, transfer is 5
Just stop answering questions if you are an idiot
>>30152544
In private transactions it is not. There is no federal age limit to owning long guns. Just to buying them via ffl.
>>30152548
I currently own a C7-75 SP-01 and "steward" my Grandfather's Colt .22 that belongs to my mom.
>>30152260
Top Tier AR Brands
>Adams Arms
>Advanced Armament Corp
>Barnes Precision Machine
>Black Rain Ordnance
>Christensen Arms
>JP Enterprises
>Knight's Armament Company
>La Rue Tactical
>Les Baer Custom
>Lewis Machine & Tool
>LWRC International
>Miller Precision Arms
>Noveske
>Patriot Ordnance Factory
>Rainier Arms
>Salient Arms
>Seekins Precision
>USM4
>Vltor
>War Sports
>Wilson Combat
>>30152537
>good brands
BCM
Daniel Defense
LMT
Noveske
PSA
There are a bunch out there man. You basically build your sbr how you want and then just put a pistol tube on it.
>>30152560
>own
You parent owns you. You don't own shit until you're 18 and can leave the house with all your stuff.
14.5 in carbine.
And to the 80% fag, just build it already...
>>30152574
I don't live with parents full time, I'm in college. Have been for two years.
>>30152581
Unless you were emancipated by a court of law, it doesn't have any barring.
>>30152567
Where is Colt or FN?
Can't figure out which LPK to get.
Halp
>>30152567
>Patriot Ordnance Factory
>top tier
I'm afraid not
>>30152489
Nigguh, I used pliers with electrical tape wrapped around them to push in roll pins. Also the only fuckery I encountered was putting in the gorram takedown detent pins. I must have shot 5 of them all over my living room.
>>30152558
So can I do angle grip without having to register shit?
Carbine a shit, middy superior.
>>30152596
just create your own from Red Barn Armory
>>30152514
So one of the cartridges was so jammed in there that when i pulled it out the bullet came loose and all the powder came out. I got all of it from the barrel and extractor, but there is still some around the (dont even know what part of the gun thats called, but the area around the back end of the barrel? like not where the bullet acually goes in but the area around that) and i cant get that shit out, but it shouldnt interfere with chambering and extracting a round right?
>>30152608
yes, AFG are good to go. A Vertical is not GTG.
>>30152563
Build a standard AR with a 16" barrel then later apply for your SBR as you never know if your CLEO is an asshole; AR pistol are kinda shitty because they're not designed to have the gas system fed so close to the action. Better to get a standard AR and see if you enjoy the platform then do all the legal stuff and get a new upper.
M16a1 build
>M16a1 complete upper receiver-550$
>McKay stripped m16a1 lower-155$
>Lower parts kit 60$
>Bipod and pistol grip- 19.90$
>Armorers tool-17$
Am I missing anything?
>>30152596
PSA moe
>>30152567
Forgot S&W cucklord
>>30152608
If you mean this, yes
>>30152616
That area you are talking about is your barrel extension and debris in there will be fine. It sounds like your ammo is shit or you have a short chamber. What it sounds like is that your bullets are being seated into the rifling just from being chambered. Which is not good. That can lead to an over pressure and cause the weapon to detonate. Try a different ammo and if that dose not work you may need a new barrel.
Of course this is my thinking and there may be something different wrong with the gun.
>>30152634
You can't buy the lower until you're 21
>>30152657
A relative can gift it to me tho famalam
>>30152625
anything bellow 16" can be classified as a pistol.....Just be sure to call your lower receiver a pistol lower when you do your 4473. You cant take a stock M&P 15 Sport and then put a short barrel and pistol tube on it and call it a pistol.
Fucked up ATF laws, i know.
If I want an m16a4 setup should I buy an Knight Armoury RAS like they actually use in the millitary? It's just that 270$ is pretty steep for a grip it seems. Any alternatives or should I just bite the bullet and get it.
>>30152621
>>30152667
If you're gonna do a A4gery, then do er right man. Those KAC rails are fucking awesome!
>>30152662
pls leave the only underagefags we allow here are sigbro and pb
>>30152682
But I am hasguns. And soon to be hasar15
>>30152572
These are all great suggestions and I appreciate them. Daniel Defense and Noveske in particular were names I had heard passed around but hadn't researched them.
I've also looked up Radical Firearms but can't seem to find much information in terms of reviews on their products. Online reviews/comments seem to be glowing, but those are easy to falsify, especially when we're talking about a rifle at that price point. I was wondering if anyone knew more about them and their reputation.
>You basically build your sbr how you want and then just put a pistol tube on it.
Not to sound like a fool, as I'm sure everyone enters firearms ownership for different reasons, but one of my primary concerns about my weapons purchases is their resale value later. I like firearms because, unlike most things/hobbies, I can recuperate my costs should I decide to slim down or upgrade later. So while I appreciate functionality and/or design, I also consider a rifles price later on. My main concern with the AR platform is simply how flooded the market is with them. But I still want one... so whatever hits the wallet the least in the long run is the best.
>>30152689
No one here gives a shit about aks or whatever shit guns you have
>>30152382
>Angled grip is aow stamp witch is 5$
Holy fuck, you're an idiot.
Look, I'm not the kind of asshole to call "newfag" on anyone, but hear me out boy.
You are a fucking newfag. You need to take your faggot fucking trip off, and shut your fucking noisebox for a bit longer before you come around trying to answer things that you clearly know absolutely fuckall about.
Eventually, you WILL know what you're talking about, and then you can be helpful and feel smug about it like the cunt we all are. But answering things you don't know shit about can be an inconvenience at best, or cost someone life and fucking limb at worst when you're dealing with firearms. Don't be a faggot.
Thanks.
>>30152567
Forgot HK too.
>>30152652
I'm hoping it's the ammo, but again, not really sure how to tell what the problem is. Bought some new ammo, ran it through manually and they were still getting jammed. Might just be from feeding them through manually though?
And on the other hand, this showed up like 45 rounds first day at the range. First time owning an AR, but i was navy, so i've at least used them before and I feel like the gun malfunctioning after 45 rounds day one would be an ammo problem, but... dunno
>>30152699
>Not to sound like a fool
You dont
>one of my primary concerns about my weapons purchases is their resale value later
I do the same thing on most of my guns. Thats why I buy name brand shit.
>so whatever hits the wallet the least in the long run is the best
Palmetto State Armory is the go to for /k/
Most of their shit can be had for cheap and for a bit more you can get some higher end shit. Like my SBR is a premium upper. Means I have a CHF barrel, Milspec Carpenter 158 BCG and a decent upper as well. Yes the market is flooded and will remain so till around election time. Then things will dry up and cost double.
>>30152701
Unmolested gewehr model 1888
1902 mosin nagant
10/22 I've put 1.3 grand into and is currently at my gunsmiths
Some blackpowder shit
3 Sten kits laying around
A m16 a1 upper on the way.
Soon to be stag arms model 2 with a 500$ peice of glass on it as well.
Plus my grandpa is giving me his garand, martini Henry, and his colt saa gen 1 when I turn 18.
>>30152732
Who made your rifle?
Did you build it or go to a store and buy one?
Lake City is not shit ammo by any standard. So it sounds like its your gun to me.
>>30152625
Thanks, I actually have a friend who has a 16" Colt AR as well as a pistol, and I plan on firing both at least once before I decide to make a purchase.
I was considering a Ruger Takedown and/or a Mk12 Mod 0 clone, although I realize I may not be able to downgrade the Ruger to a Pistol, I'm not exactly strapped for cash so far as being unable to afford all three (though not so loaded to go buy them in one trip, let alone the same year).
>>30152699
Uhhhhh yea gtfo.
Not to hivemind but we don't sell our guns and if you build your AR, it's essentially worth nothing because it's a custom build. Maybe you'd be more accomadated at arfcom
> a 500$ peice of glass on it as well
Bruh, to /arg/ five hundo on glass is where you start. Not what you achieve.
>Plus my grandpa is giving me
Brah, just brah
>>30152739
Gib sten kit
How do yall like my first lower build, waiting on my upper and bcg to get here.
>>30152776
Dude. They're 100~ $ on apex right now.
>>30152783
What grip is that?
>>30152739
>when I turn 18
MODS MODS MODS
>>30152783
Ugly as fuck, don't tell me you actually like Daniel Defense's ugly ass furniture
>>30152751
Windham weaponry
>>30152788
Daniel Defense you new fag
>>30152772
I plan on putting a kac rail and a magpul angled grip on that fucker. Possibly a new trigger and a solid gold bcg.
>>30152776
>>30152786
Link pls
>>30152795
tbqh I really do, and I will use sand colored mags just to give autists headaches
>>30152797
Oh. I remember their grips looking closer to the HK grips. I guess they changed? Other than that, I never really bothered to look at them.
>>30152805
http://www.apexgunparts.com/sales-clearance-and-deals/sten-mk5-parts-set-pof-fair.html
You're welcome
>>30152796
hmmm, id say its an out of spec extractor. They're like $16 on Whindhams website. Try emailing them about your problems and you might just get one for free. Start with the cheap fixes first and then work your way to the more expensive fixes. Your extractor may be out of spec and not grabbing a hold of the casing properly. Drag your finger across the extractor and if its not SHARP then you probably need a new one.
>>30152788
Daniel defense
>>30152802
>I plan on putting a kac rail
k
>magpul angled grip on that fucker
double k
>solid gold bcg
dude, just sit back and chill for a while. You're not helping your cause here.
>>30152657
You can buy rifles at 18, pistols at 21.
>>30152771
>We don't sell our guns
Okay?
>If you build your AR, it's essentially worth nothing because it's a custom build.
I am well aware of this, hence why my original question inquired about good brands for AR Pistols. Not AR Pistol Uppers.
As I've already gotten a couple of good answers, I guess you wasted your time writing this.
And I wasted my time responding to it.
>>30152845
Receivers are a title 1 firearm and you have to be 21
>>30152789
Dude- how many of you guys know about mogrizz? He tried to create a k meet up a few months ago like nuggetfest- even talked to creep about it. He stated he was a 22yo grad student. After some legit concerns being posted, mogrizz was outed as a lying 16 year old complete with selfie from his gmail account
>>30152866
Correction. Said I was a 22 year old med student. I did create a meet up. I still have 7 people coming
>>30152429
For a rifle the 600 lumen is better, it's more of a spot and less of a flood, plus the attachment method us much more secure on a metal pic rail.
>>30152866
Nobody cares about Robert Pauslon. Just report, sage, and filter his ignorant ass.
>>30152827
You mean this bit? (That my thumb is touching)
Cause its basically round
>>30152953
Nice fight club refrence
>>30152850
No, you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded. If u want resale value buy a complete Daniel defense. You're barking up the wrong tree here so kys
>>30152968
>refrence
Reference.
Also, you weren't even a stain in your mother's panties when that movie came out.
>>30153037
by that logic you can't enjoy 1984 or atlas shrugged or even most milsurp because you weren't "a stain in your mothers panties" when they were made either.
>>30152514
or the timing is wrong and the gun is trying to extract early before the case has depressurized enough to be safely extracted
>>30152366
Do you actually have a fully built AR or do you just shitpost in every thread with the same pictures of a lower?
>>30153053
I never said you couldn't appreciate it. I'm reminding you that you're not supposed to be here.
Now shut up and lurk.
>>30153053
And fuck Ayn Rand, you tryhard cunt.
>>30152598
what battery assist lever?
>>30153085
I'm sorry you don't enjoy get works anon.
Atlas shrugged was just an example however.
Tom Clancy or John Scott Fitzgerald work just as well.
Another personal favorite of mine is Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury. Great book.
>>30153097
Her works. Fucking laptop
>>30153053
How much does bullet speed change with barrel length? Does 14 inches have significant different from 12?
>>30153110
Depends on the type of powder and the burn rate of it. As well as twist rate. Most Modern powder burns up in 12.5 I believe
>>30152976
I feel like this is bait.
At any rate, thats exactly what Im planning to do now thanks to Hoosier's initial comment. The 300 pistol is exactly what I was looking for and the price is good.
Just bought SilencerCo EastTrust.
What do I name my trust?
I was thinking my initials.
Tell me how stupid I am.
>>30153195
"Firm breasts"
>>30153203
>>30153195
oppai
>>30153195
>What do I name my trust?
Pretty much whatever you want.
>>30153195
Biscuit
Cumfart
Cumbiscuit
Biscuitfart
Trusty McTrustface
>>30153220
Do you like cum farts on biscuits?
>>30153249
It's my response to /an/'s "name my pet" threads
>>30153195
name it
my trust
>want to bring AR and shit to a 1000m military range to have some fun after we qual
>can't because a couple of dipshits got themselves DD for dumb ass felonies so we're probably gonna get searched on the way back
This is why we can't have nice things.
>>30152667
>Any alternatives
P&S Products makes M5 RAS for the military under license from KAC.
These used to cost around $100 on jewbay.
>>30153295
Post more that qt HK
About to buy some lower parts kits and springs for BCG just as backup parts for shit breaking down. Is there any brand I should not buy?
>>30153815
Anon read your message over and try again
>>30153886
What did I type wrong?
>think it's time to buy spares
>because of wear and tear on AR
>wear points are normally the springs in the BCG
>and stuff in the lower
>asking for brands to avoid buying
What was the problem with the post?
>>30152356
Where did you get those sights?
>>30152580
>dat knights ras on m4 aesthetic
an oldie but a goodie. nothing on that rifle seems impractical, either
>>30153895
there are no springs in the bcg
you might want a spare firing pin and bolts do wear out but the bolt carrier is essentially indestructible if built correctly
if the gun fucks up, the screws are bad/ not staked then it will die but baring material defects the carrier wont wear out
>>30153895
I wouldn't get any of the small parts for the BCG. If you're really worried about a catastrophic failure, get a firing pin, cam pin, and bolt. Magpul makes an insert that stores all that nicely in the grip. Is what I plan on buying.
https://www.magpul.com/products/miad-moe-bolt-and-firing-pin-core
So who makes the nicest [complete] A2 stock assembly?
>>30153940
>there are no springs in the BCG
there are exactly two springs in the BCG you tard.
>>30152666
>just be sure to call your lower receiver a pistol lower
the lower is neither a pistol or a rifle. it is classified as an "other firearm" on the 4473, so unless you want to voluntarily register your built AR with your state if they have a registry, you cannot do this on a 4473.
Couple dumb questions
The fuck do you call the thing that goes around the barrel? That the picatinny rail goes on?
Can you take them off without fucking anything else up, like your optics? Or will you have to readjust everything else?
>>30154036
the barrel nut? also, yes, you can take the handguard off without fucking anything up. if you take the barrel nut off, though, you will have to re-adjust everything.
>>30154044
not the nut, just the thing you put your non firing hand on
i want to say grip but fuck
>>30154055
Rail or handgaurd
building an AR for the first time and i was wondering if someone could answer some questions?
if im not going for range but want a heavy barrel so heating up isnt as quick, would that be ok or should i just stick to standard?
i already bought a upper that is billet, should i get a lower that is also billet or is forged the way to go?
is a BCM BCG good enough?
>>30154068
gotcha
so I have a YHM freefloat, like http://yhm.net/accessories/forearms/free-float-ar-15-tubes.html these, got it because i liked the grip, but after a while i'm starting to regret it because i started gripping the magazine well while shooting, and having such a short rail for mounting seems like i'm limiting my options a lot. I mean all i'd put up top would be a scope anyway, but still. Is there any advantage to those kinds besides looks?
>>30152606
All u dumb niggers having trouble with take down pins ... go to home Depot or Lowe's or any hardware store and pay 75 cents for a 1/4 clevice pin.
>>30154094
I'd say most advantages are weight, durability of the metal used and the ability to attach things like vertical or angled foregrips, lights, etc... Let alone that most look better than the one you have chosen (no offense)
I personally don't think your scope should go past your upper receiver. But that is debatable.
All depends on your budget for the item you want.
>>30153071
Pretty sure this faggot just shot posts his guy bullet pictograph lower sitting in grass every thread and has never fired a gun before.
Each time I've built a ar I go pick up a lower the day the rest of the parts show up and build it the same day. I don't take pictures of a shifty lower for months on end.
in for no time to shitpost lately
>>30154088
with a heavy or bull barrel it will also take a much longer time to cool down that barrel once it is heated up. keep that in mind.
you should get a matching billet lower from the same manufacturer that made your billet upper if you want the features to line up. what brand is it?
bcm bcg is probably fine but you should try to source your bolt from the maker of your barrel.
hey, anon, do you feel stupid yet?
>>30154369
haven't noticed
>18in upper
>mid length gas
>ares scr lower
My body is ready.
Sup nigs,
What is the best A2 style AR I can buy? I want one with a fixed carrying handle and not a flat top rail receiver with a detachable handle
Also I live in a cuck state, so if they have a post ban model that is preferred, but I can always just buy a normal model and have the flash hider switched out and the lug taken off
>>30154369
Hnnnnngggggg! Mines coming today. I am excited. I think I need a different upper receiver though. I bought a blemished BCM for cheap and now its worn the fuck out.
>>30152921
>>30153236
following up on this. see picture
>>30154909
that happened because you didn't lube the bolt on the rings enough. ar's will fail there if they're ran dry coating or not.
>>30153136
Jesus h christ stop giving out stupid as fuck advice.
>>30153110
Look up velocity charts for ar15s on barrel length.
>>30154023
well in good ol motherfuckin Indiana, you have to be 21 to buy an AR15 lower because it can be made into a pistol. Im not one hundo clear on the whole pistol bit because I just do sbrs instead of pistols.
>>30154964
he's not wrong, the majority of the pressure generated in an ar15 is probably around 4 to 9 inches. the area under the hand guards basically.
if you cut the barrel short in this critical area the FPS will drop off DRASTICALLY.
however, if you have a 24 inch barrel and cut off the last 4 inches or even 6 inches the FPS loss is very minimal.
14.5" middy of course
>>30154094
Gonna help you out bro. A lengthy Free Float rail will allow you to control your rifle much easier. Plenty of YT vids out there that explain that. Also, never mount a scope or optic on the FF rail itself, always on the upper receiver.
>>30152429
WTC? Ebay? I need a light and I'm not sure what to get
>>30154987
Hes not right either. With his advice, hes saying if I use a magic powder i could negate all the effects of a short barrel. Pretty sure twist dose not affect speed either.
>>30155006
WTC? the fuck is that?
Buy a surefire light of your liking honestly. Most people will cry about the lumen war, but get a good bright one. I like the Scouts personally.
>>30152886
Really?
>>30155024
>WTC? the fuck is that?
Where to cop
Any and all surefires or is there one I should avoid?
>>30155045
I only have experience with the Scout series and X300U lights. The scout series is massive in terms of what can be had. The Fury has a massive 600 lumen light and the M300 can be purchased with a 200 or 300 lumen bulb. So its really about application.
>>30155068
I was looking at the M951 or the scout. I can get used M951's off ebay for ~$100
>>30155013
twist can absolutely affect the speed, why do you think rail guns are not rifled?
i was literally reading a chart on some other site not even a week ago about this very topic. i'll search my history. the most drastic FPS loss was right around 12 to 14 inches (bbl length)
the least drastic was way out at the end between 24 and 20
>>30155074
Twist RATE doesn't affect velocity but rifling(friction) does.
>>30155087
Oy, why am i a filty anon?
>>30155074
>comparing an ar15 to a rail gun
One used gun powder, the other does not
>the most drastic FPS loss was right around 12 to 14 inches
never said a short barrel wouldn't loose velocity quicker
>>30155073
I would personally get something newer. Nothing wrong with the M951, but its not for me.
>>30155095
Hey, that's not even the pic i chose
>>30155106
I figured since I can get it for a new price and just drop a 600 lumen bulb in it would be a better deal than a $400 scout
So what is actually the highest velocity barrel length of .223/5.56? I know there isn't a significant change after 20", but what is actually the highest velocity length?
>>30155087
>Twist RATE doesn't affect velocity but rifling(friction) does.
twist rate does affect velocity, use your brain. they're inter-related
if more of the energy used to propel the round is diverted to imparting a faster spin on it..... well then that energy isn't going to be used to propel the round forward is it? this is exactly why rail guns aren't rifled. there are other ways to stabilize a round other than twisting it. see 120mm abrams APFSDS rounds.
>>30155098
i wasn't comparing an ar15 to a rail gun, i was showing you an obvious example where (lack of) rifling plays a role in speed. surely you aren't this stupid are you? stupid hoosier?
So, do I buy a suppressor before 41f, or start building an AR-10 and .300 Blackout upper? If I didn't have two trips scheduled for between now and Jul 13th I wouldn't have to decide, but prior financial obligations and all that.
>>30155145
you must be an engineer. Obviously the faster you go the slower the twist, even to the point of no twist. But we're not talking about rail space spoopy blasters from the new CoD here in /arg/, we're talking about.........wait for it..........AR15s.
>>30155168
You've waited far to long to get on the "before 41f" train.
>space canon related
>>30152845
A lower isn't a rifle anon
>>30155241
according to the Govt. it is...........
>>30155249
no. we go over this shit all the time. a stripped lower is not a rifle, that is why you cannot buy it from a ffl at 18yo
>>30155219
>you must be an engineer. Obviously the faster you go the slower the twist, even to the point of no twist. But we're not talking about rail space spoopy blasters from the new CoD here in /arg/, we're talking about.........wait for it..........AR15s.
it doesn't matter what we're talking about. we could be talking about a basketball being fired from a pvc cannon.
energy used to spin a bullet can't also be used to propel it with equal force in both realms. unless you can prove me wrong, i'm fairly certain you will lose FPS with faster twist rates, it's a no brainer. not sure why you can't figure out the basics of physics there...
>>30155219
I have a trust set up, just need to decide if I want to pull the trigger now or deal with the fingerprinting and shit later. Was planning to head to a few shops shortly to make a decision.
>>30155257
>21yo to buy because of "make pistol"
Yep. you're correct. I keep forgetting that bullshit. Even though I just posted about it. That was in 2010 when it was changed?
>>30155275
idk when it changed. i bought a lower in 2014 with no problems but in 2015 at the same ffl they said no.
some FFLs just mark it as long gun and you are gtg, there is no way anyone can find out. just gotta be lucky
>>30155266
>Deff talking to an engineer now
>both realms
like middle earth?
>i'm fairly certain you will lose FPS with faster twist rates
So the faster I spin the slower i go? Am i getting that correctly?
>>30154531
Who are these two Caucasian nationalists?
>>30155145
But tank guns and rail guns don't use slower twist rates, the just don't use rifling at all.
The difference between 1:20 vs 1:5 is nothing compared to 1:20 vs smooth bore.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
>>30152325
Make sure to check out that funstore owned by that Rhodie.
>>30155332
i was simply pointing out the fact that the rounds are fin stabilized you goon
painted mags today
kinda want to put more dark green and brown macro pattern on my raifu
I just ordered a TA31RCO for an M16A4 clone to replace the carry handle I had on it forever.
Did they use backup rear sights when the ACOG was mounted or no? I would think they used a Matech or USGI but many of the images I'm finding it looks like they didn't use one. Any actual militaryfags able to let me know what buis I need?
>>30155486
Wait, i thought you were pointing out that rifling and twist rate affects velocity?
>>30155513
You need some stolen valor, who gives a shit what the military used. It was probably wrong to begin with.
>>30155540
>building accurate clones = stolen valor
Ya dun goofed.
>>30152360
You have until Monday but they will probably go up again later if you miss it
>>30155558
He was talking about a kind of sight you mong
>>30155540
>>30155558
>>30155595
this is intriguing me, what is really being said here?
Who [UPS delivered early] today?
>>30155620
>>30155513
The original guy was asking if he should use a rear iron sight with his new ACOG for his A4 clone.
>>30155540
The other guy told him to get a USMC KAC sight or a 'stolen valor' sight.
>>30155558
This guy has a mental deficiency.
>>30155558
>asks about buis
>doesn't get the stolen valor meme
>posts in ARG
>>30155664
ohhhh thats a meme name for the kac's? kek
thanks for explaining also keks @ the last line of your post
>>30152580
14.5 heavy barrel, this man knows what's up.
Olyanon are ya here? I'm down in tacoma on business, what's the name of that lgs you bought your steel from?
>>30155793
>business
>>30154382
>with a heavy or bull barrel it will also take a much longer time to cool down that barrel once it is heated up.
But it takes equally as long to heat up, and will be less inclined to "wander" during that time. I've noticed it is quite difficult to get a bull-barrel that hot in a semi-automatic, unless you're mag dumping... but you'll get more mags out than with a standard barrel.
After all, it was exploding M4 barrels that got us to adopt the SOCOM barrel profile.
>>30155833
Yes business
>>30155793
I'm here. It's i5 guns in lacey
>>30155845
fugg I was hoping it was closer. I didn't know there was a bass pro down here
>>30155841
You're too young to have business
>>30155857
gotta be proactive to get anywhere in this industry bb
>>30155856
Been the bass pro once, it's huge.
I'm trying to decide if I want to go up to rainier arms here soon and buy a stripped upper. They don't have any of the other parts I want for the build however.
>>30154984
You should be able to buy a full AR rifle though
>>30155862
Good boy. I'd pat your head but then you might want a cookie too.
>>30155874
Might stop by there on my way home. What did you decide on 14.5 or 18?
>>30155879
I'll just have the cookie
>>30155887
Now you get nothing. You should buy your nigger dogs something while you're out.
>>30155899
A new toy never hurts
>>30155887
Going to do the 14.5
I want one of those 10 ounce tube handguards and the only choices currently are vtac, alg, or troy
The beater skeeter meat.
>>30155909
Isn't the kmr around that? Same with MI
>>30155924
The kmr is. I haven't taken a look at many of the MI handguards but I think I saw one I kind of liked.
Your kmr is also pretty damn comfy so that's an option
>>30155936
yeah kmr is comfy. What barrel ya going with?
