Cold steel makes quality knives for the price. Their ram lock design is brilliant and they have decent materials.
Also mikovs are very unrealiable for locking.
I don't think everyone should be allowed to have guns because of how absolutely fucking stupid a lot of people are
>>30145655
Or drive for that matter.
>>30145655
I know you are just trolling, but in regards to the people that actually think like that. Have you ever noticed they're always just projecting their own stupidity on others?
>I'm a fucking retard who can't trust themselves around guns
>Therefore EVERYONE must be a retard that can't be trusted with guns
>>30145744
>If I had a gun, I would shoot people when I got angry in traffic!
Then don't buy a gun. Or leave your house. Or stand anywhere close to me, you fucking psycho.
>>30145767
It's unfortunate the average person is retarded and we can't just play a recording of antigunners saying shit like that and then everyone just goes "Oh, okay, that person is batshit crazy. I'm really glad we didn't give p our personal defenses to the ravings of a violent nutjob"
Instead it's
>If I had a gun I'd murder people over cutting lines in Starbucks!!!
>Oh my, obviously guns are the issue here.
>>30145635
>quality knives for the price
>as expensive or more than benchmade and other high tier brands
>can't hold an edge for shit
unpopular opinion=/= wrong assertions characterized by buyers remorse.
My turn:
people who can't deal with slide safeties are retarded faggots
gucci ARs are fucking stupid due to the law of diminishing returns unless you're making or buying a dedicated target rifle, which won't run you more than $1500 off the shelf.
I think people with a history of mental illness or violent crime should be barred from owning guns, voting, or holding political power.
Fuck it, just euthanize them
>>30145855
Depression also? 1/4 stat is bandied around a lot, so that's a lot of people in to ovens
>>30145855
sounds like you're suffering from psychosis. seek help
Gun control would be effective if non-idiots were coming up with the controls. They compromise far too much.
>>30145884
>Gun control would be effective if
Nope. Because people like me would just find a way around them.
Name a single law that would reduce crime and I'll find a way around it in a few minutes.
>No, seriously, let's hear one of your proposed laws
>>30145870
Nah, not depression. I think people should have the right to choose to die on their own terms. It's fucked up that we make people stay on the ride long after they want off.
AK piston action doesn't make it any cleaner than AR piston action.
>Though the AK is much easier to clean, since you aren't dealing with the confined spaces like on ARs.
>>30145921
I never implied I was not one of those idiots.
>>30145921
>that faggot who tries to disprove literally every hypothetical he hears, not in the interest of making the subject better, but to make himself look like a smarty pants
Literally hang yourself from a bridge.
Carrying a gun with out a safety is as foolish as, telling your friends what piece of shit your boss is and how you were not really sick yesterday and just took the day off to play video games, on facebook.
>>30145853
>why does this 8" of vg1 cost more than 2" of 154
>>30145921
>My crazy hypotheticals invalidate your arguments
Most criminals aren't out on a mission to use guns no matter what to make their point. If you make getting guns hard enough for them, less of them will use guns.
A saiga 12 is a better choice than a Vepr because it has a MUCH larger aftermarket
>>30146050
>restrict guns enough and criminals won't use them
Get off k pls
>>30146064
>Australia and the UK have gun crime rates as high as the US
Get off Earth pls.
>>30146033
>why is my CS knife so dull and chipprone ;_;
vg1 is 440c tier only shittier when you look at it objectively instead of through the lens of CS ad copy. Both are upper end budget steels, the difference is that CS uses budget steals in their "expensive" knives.
and the triad lock is just a midlock.
>inb4 more Coldsteel the hedgehog posts
>>30146082
You one of those legi-sexuals? More law can only do good types? Faggot.
>>30146050
>If you make getting guns hard enough for them, less of them will use guns.
No, if you make a population disarmed then criminals don't need guns to rape, rob, and murder them. See: england. crime rates have done nothing but increase and their murder rate stayed the same after a spike right after each major gun restriction. "gun murders" went down but murders stayed the same.
Any criminal that wants a gun can get a gun regardless of country. Hell, anyone who wants a gun can get a gun regardless of country. the IRA alone should tell you that.
>>30146128
>Some gun laws could work
>NO THEY CAN'T. NO GUN LAW CAN EVER WORK BECAUSE OF EXCEPTIONS I CAN THINK OF
>But they clearly have worked in other places
>SO YOU THINK EVERY GUN LAW WILL WORK?!?!?!?!?
Literally kill yourself. Preferably not with a gun.
>>30146082
>gun crime
>>30146145
I didn't say it would necessarily lower overall crime, just that it would lower gun crime.
>>30146152
>but they work in other countries!
gun control has been a massive failure in the UK, Australia, and the philippines despite being the only places that could ever successfully implement it due to being islands. Mass noncompliance, domestic gun production, the fact that criminals don't follow laws, and inability to prevent importation of new firearms despite having no land borders made all gun control efforts do nothing but disarm and victimize the law abiding
>>30146165
gun crime is meaningless, a murder is still a murder. your goals are not to protect people through these laws but to control and disarm them.
>>30146152
Why is gun crime more important to you than other forms of crime, such as knife assault or assault with a dangerous automobile?
UK only proves that crime does not go down when you remove guns but it does prove that scumbags like your self will only move on to new things to regulate.
>>30146165
the white homicide rate in the US is 60% of the UK homicide rate. Pay your TV license Nigel
>>30146219
source?
>>30145635
SHALL
>>30146329
NOT
>>30146091
>premium stainless steel
>~1% carbon
>.25% nitrogen
>trash
Kek
>>30146051
What's the purpose of the aftermarket? To improve a product from it's stock configuration?
Oh, how about that? The Vepr 12 doesn't need a large aftermarket because it doesn't need as much improving.
>>30146199
>Those figures
Let's see some adjustment for population there mister.
>>30146349
BANANA
>>30146436
guns don't breed.
>how did gun control work if there are up to twice as many 10 years later?
>>30146453
Criminals do dumbass. If the rate goes down per capita, that's pretty clear evidence that the average criminal is less likely to use a gun, isn't it?
Or is Columbia a better place to live than the US because it has less overall murders?
>>30146373
>aftermarket consists only of stocks
so this is what fanboyism is
Health care should be completely socialized.
Bears did 9/11.
Firing guns results in contrails.
My farts smell better than your farts.
>>30145635
I know the Cold Steel guys personally, and they're cool and their stuff isn't miracle tier, but its aight. One of my EDC knives is a cold steel, and I've never had issues. Are they unpopular on /k/ for some reason?
>>30145855
If they can't be rehabilitated, sure, but at least try to help them.
>>30146489
wow what an argument
10/10
>>30146489
>the british population more than doubling in 10 years to offset twice as many gun crimes happening in 2005 than 1995
>G..G...Gun control worked guys ;_;
4% increase in population, 90% increase in firearms crimes.
If you have a United States citizenship, you have no right to complain about regional/State gun laws (you can still gripe about Federal laws). Move. You already have a citizenship so you're miles ahead of the Europeans and Australians. It's not nearly as hard for you as it is for them.
>>30146588
The Supreme Court actually held that "move" isn't a valid constitutional argument.
I mean, it's probably the best thing to do, but that shouldn't stop you from being pissed about your civil liberties.
>>30145635
Gun ownership is a privilege.
Not a right.
>>30146630
the Constitution guarantees certain rights
>guarantees
>rights
>>30146630
if you live in a dictatorship that favors the rich maybe
>>30146856
>Enumerates rights that the government can never take away
Ftfy
>>30146050
>Fewer
>>30146489
>Fewer
>>30146550
4chan is a bunch of kershit and sypdercucks
>all sogs are shit
>all cold steel is shit
>meme sebenza
>praise the cheapest made benchmade and shit tier chink trash
>>30145884
>>30146011
>>30146050
>>30146082
>>30146152
>>30146436
>>30146489
Gun Control is actually ineffective. Welcome to /k/, now git out
>>30146630
You too, git out.
>http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf
>http://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Armed-Resistance-to-Crime.pdf
>http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
>http://www.theacru.org/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178916300258?via%3Dihub
>>30147748
never
>>30146050
Sure worked for alcohol.
Joining the military specifically to go into combat for the sake of combat itself is one of the most retarded decisions that you can make.
Someone has to do it, and I respect those that do, but willingly and faithfully choosing to do so is mind boggling, as is the ability of the Marines and the Army to advertise and convince people to sign up for these roles.
>>30145662
God, or vote too...
>>30147965
You obviously don't have memory of 9/11/2001. It truly was a pearl harbor tier incident squandered on the bullshit war in Iraq because nuking Saudi Arabia was bad for business.
>>30147297
thanks m8
>>30145635
"Direct Impingement" does not accurately describe how an M-16/AR-15 works.
>>30146199
People never take into account how much the population increased as well.
>>30146497
He doesn't mean buttstock, he means stock as in "off the shelf."
>Universal background checks and NJ/NY style licensing schemes work
>Transgenderism is a mental illness
>National healthcare would be far more efficient than the private system
>Liberal economic policies and individualism are responsible for many of Western society's problems
>>30148444
>Universal background checks and NJ/NY style licensing schemes work
wrong=/=opinion
>Transgenderism is a mental illness
not unpopular
>National healthcare would be far more efficient than the private system
depends on how it's implemented
>Liberal economic policies and individualism are responsible for many of Western society's problems
Not an opinion, but also not incorrect.
>>30146550
>cold steel knives are overpriced for no actual benefit over other brands
>their swords are useless as swords but they're priced like an Albion.
>their commercials are cool.
Skeletool is almost worthless as a multitool
>>30148552
>priced like A&A
>sell for Cas Hanwei prices on the street with asinine prices for their shitty overbuilt katanas
>garbage compared to any brand but windlass, which makes their shamshir, and universal swords, which makes the rest of their sabers, who both retail for $50-100 less.
ftfy
>>30148685
multi tools are worthless in general. a good knife and a good pair of mini pliers weigh the same and work much better.
You cannot be on the left and support gun rights.
>>30148728
Where do you think the contradiction lies?
>>30148722
Whooooa. That's just wrong. A leatherman Wave is a fantastic EDC tool. Not a single day goes by when I don't find cause to use mine.
Maybe your daily activities just don't have much need for variety in the way of tools. Also, it's not just about weight, it's about pocket real estate.
>>30148844
Respecting lives that aren't yours and having the ability to take one legally.
The whole EDC pocket jewlery show and tell phenomenon is cancer. If you don't carry a gun, a knife, and a flashlight you are a cuck though.
Ex-criminals should be allowed to own guns, if they can't be trusted with guns they should be in jail anyway. All violent crimes should have much harsher sentencing, and any armed robbery should automatically bear the death penalty. And no more 10 years on death row, they should be marched out back and shot as soon as the verdict is read.
>>30148857
and a victorinox workchamp or woodchamp does everything a multitool does, but better.
>locking high quality 3" blade
>full sized metal file
>full sized double bit woodsaw
>5 different screwdrivers
>pliers
>gabbag of swiss army knife stuff like tweezers, bottle/can/wine openers, awl, etc.
>ergonomic
>half the size of a competent multitool
multitools are shit.
>>30148872
>Respecting lives that aren't yours
Since when was that a necessary condition of the left?
>>30148844
People on the left would rather restrict a persons freedoms at all costs then otherwise.
>if you cc a wonder 9, you're either fat, poor or out of touch.
>.30 caliber is best caliber
>posting something outrageous in every thread possible such as "traps" "dragon dildos" "nugget bolts in ass" and other memes got old 3 years ago, let alone the last 200 times they were posted today.
>kickboxing is the only worth while unarmed combat sport.
>small hammerless revolvers are the best for cc
>>30148872
>respecting lives that aren't yours
Since when has that ever been a part of the left's ideology? Then they wouldn't have the right to take property away to redistribute it.
Wish someone would have told Stalin, or Mao, or Pol Pot, or Mugabe that they were supposed to respect other peoples' lives.
>>30149029
>Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mugabe
but those guys weren't REAL leftists ;^)
>>30148941
>>30148857
Guys, chill. Not in this thread
>>30148722
I disagree. Having all in one seems handier
>>30148252
see >>30146558 faggot
I don't give a shit about background checks for gun purchases.
>>30148086
>>30145662
>>30145655
I think most people will agree with these sentiments... but how will we decide who should be second class citizens and who gets to make those decisions?
>>30145635
I like grip safeties.
>>30151720
I don't mind mine. I don't think it's bad idea for a gun to make sure you actually have a proper grip on it before allowing it to fire.
>>30145635
People should be allowed to own nukes.
>>30145635
wehraboos are just as bad and cancerous as vatniks
vatniks are just as bad and cancerous as wehraboos
AR15s are one of the most boring guns to shoot ever. They're great weapons and can be cool but they're rarely exciting to use.
>>30152262
>israel is a legitimate government of a legitimate state
>>30152262
Where do you think you are?
>>30145635
open carry is fucking stupid
Mil Spec is generally shit, and people who want everything to be Mil Spec really just want to play dress up, can't be assed to research anything, or use it as an excuse to spend cheap.
Glocks are fine and reliable weapons.
Glocks are also babby's first handgun before he gets a sense for what he really wants.
The FAL's ergonomics are awful and confusing, and the only reason it is viewed favorably in the regard is because it is being compared to the G3, which requires giant hands or spiderfingers to operate.
The US military's reliance on 5.56 would be fine if they actually used appropriate weight ammo for the twist of their rifles.
The SCAR is basically worthless in 5.56
You can like both ARs and AKs, but you'll still shoot one more often.
.40 S&W is actually just fine. It's not the wonder-round it was sold as, but it's also not that bad.
Full auto is impractical, and not as much fun as everyone seems to think.
>The 1911 pistol is one of the best combat handguns ever designed.
>I know way more about the 1911 than you do
>Ian of Forgotten Weapons has massive biases and doesn't know what he's talking about a lot
>.45 acp is a more lethal round than 9mm
>9mm is better in SMGs and machine pistols than .45 acp
>5.45 is better than 5.56
>The AR-15 is a sub par rifle that has 60 years of development behind it and still loses to all its competitors in every single army test
>Glocks are literally nothing special. There is nothing inherent in the design to make them particularly good.
>Polymer guns in general are shitty, and are only made of plastic to save the manufacturer money
>your polymer gun being lightweight is a bad thing, because it increases felt recoil
>I support way harsher criminal penalties, and I think the police should work the way they did in the 50's, where they'd just shoot criminals they didn't think they could catch
>While I don't think drugs should be illegal, I think that virtually anyone who uses them is a piece of shit, and we need to abolish the welfare state before we even consider talking about legalization
>>30152262
found the jew.
>>30152509
>registration
>licensing
Only if you drive on public roads
Which would be the gun equivalent of either CC, or using some kind of public range
>cops everywhere looking for you when you use your toy
Cops aren't looking for people with guns?
>use it wrong ever and they impound it
No
>maybe even take your license away
That takes like 2 DUIs
>can't use it unless you're 100% sober
You should never use guns drunk
>have to have it inspected
see above
>can't use anything except that provided by big name auto makers because >MUH SAFETY
what?
>>30152528
im not saying ive got a problem with your government blowing up shitskins. im just saying youre a weasly kike.
>>30152600
Great points anon.
Really intelligent and thought out replies.
No massive logical issues here. :^)
>>30145635
I bought a Finn m39 and it's a piece of shit. Its accurate and well made. Cool closed grained wood.
But it's an archaic piece of shit and I wasted money on it. Heavy, clumsy, low cap, crude, easy to break. Bolt actions with five round mags should be in museums and on walls.
>>30152610
Do you have any idea how many times guns are used in self defense in America every year?
>>30152643
Nice post man.
Really convincing.
People will totally reply seriously to it.
>>30145635
i agree about Cold Steel. i have a Ti Lite, the Special Forces shovl, and i had the GI Tanto. no complaints
>>30152262
>americans in general are kinda a shit people
>american anti-gun people are the #2 most autistic and insufferable subculture
Not even an American, but you should kill yourself fyi. Most of the Americans I've met have been perfectly fine, and the worst thing most gun owners there do is whine about "muh soshy-lism"
>>30152494
Cut myself on the edge
>>30145635
I genuinely dislike most of the foreigners that come on /k/, they mostly seem to be spergs like >>30152610 or >>30152262
>>30152698
>Even at the high end of 2.5 million per year, it sounds like a lot, but in a country of 300 million people, with it being probable that the gun was only brandished in a lot of those cases... I'm not impressed. Less than 1% of people,
You're not impressed by a device that 1% of people in America use to protect themselves every single year?
That's somewhere around the rate of people who are protected by air bags.
Do you think those are pointless too?
>many of whom probably could have done the same thing with a knife or bat or whatever.
Statistically, using a gun for self defense results in the lowest chance of being injured or killed.
>Keep "Scaring the government" too.
If they aren't scared, why do they want to take them?
>>30152710
You have to be 18+ to post here.
I assume an adult would know the proper context for that word.
>>30152698
>i-it doesnt count because because you didnt have to actually kill anyone
youre literally arguing that guns dont scare dindus by spouting statistics saying that dindus stop whatever crime theyre committing when confronted by someone with a gun
>>30152744
If you're stupid enough to think /k/ is representative of gun owners as a whole you're too dumb to safely operate a firearm. If you're the dude from the previous post, where are you even from? Do you actually own a gun?
>>30152801
In the real world, a place you're probably not too familiar with. You didn't answer my other question by the way
>>30152794
>Say something is the best tool for a job
>HURRR SO U CANT DO IT WITH ANYTHING ELSE!?!?!?!??
No you retard. Nobody's saying you can't defend yourself by swinging your purse daintily at an attacker. They're just saying you're much more likely to get fucking rekt if you do. Guns are the best thing to have to defend yourself, bar none.
>>30152794
>implying i made either of those implications
>implying guns arent the best choice for self defense
>actually chosing to put your life in more danger than necessary just because of you irrational fear of firearms
>implying youre not just a delusional nigger
>>30152794
>They don't want to take your guns, that's insane!
>We need to take your guns because you're insane enough to think we're going to take your guns!
Priceless every time.
>>30152832
>The 21 foot meme
And just because a mugging isn't likely doesn't mean you shouldn't have the best tool to handle one if it does occur.
>Well, fires aren't that common
>I'll just keep a few cups of water around instead of an extinguisher.
>>30152840
oh, youre just an edgy underage /b/ fag. nevermind. carry on.
>>30152833
>France
>Having guns
Unless they're yelling "ALLUH ACKBAR!," froggies do not have guns.
>>30152863
Meant for >>30152840
>>30152840
What the fuck are you even talking about? Gun ownership in America is far more common than in either of those countries so of course it's talked about more. Despite gun-related homicides dropping in the US the issue of private gun ownership is still an important issue, and to some groups in the government the laws currently in place are far too lenient.
If "sparse debates over gun control in the country with the highest level of gun ownership" are what you consider a "shitstorm every week" then I don't know what to tell you
>>30145635
Given the power to amend the NFA, I would remove SBRs from regulation, rather than repeal the Hughes Amendment or remove any of the other categories.
>>30152801
Also, it's pretty pathetic that you're letting the fact that good amount of American gun owners are suspicious and critical of their government drive you to hate them, unless you're actually autistic
>>30152896
but why you colossal faggot? you salty that youve spent all that money on cuck stamps and firearms that may one day be nearly worthless compared to what you paid for them?
>>30152912
Should have been more clear, if I could only make one change that would be my first choice... Given power to repeal the whole thing it'd all go.
>>30152947
suppressors would be a better choice, but fair enough.
Napoleone di Buonaparte did nothing wrong.
Not even being edgy.
>>30152959
I'm honestly dumbfounded as to what it is you're trying to argue here, considering the fact that gun ownership is clearly more fucking common than in any other country on earth. There are more guns than people in the US, how the fuck does it surprise you that the US government and certain groups of people would be interested in having more control over guns and restricting their ownership- thus causing strife with gun owners?
>France outranks Canada
To bring this into context, France may have more guns in Canada, and Canada may have a somewhat large amount of firearms, but it's a measly number compared to 300,000,000+
>people see a lot more snow in Canada
Unless you think guns ending up in America is some kind of natural and completely unavoidable or uncontrollable circumstance this is a terrible analogy.
To put it simply; there are a fuck ton of guns in America. Some people do not like the idea of there being so many guns in America and want to do something about it.
>why are so many people here obsessed with dindu raids and "scaring the government
I don't know, maybe it's young 20-somethings living out sophomoric hero fantasies? Maybe it's people deciding to prepare for the worst? Considering how dangerous things got in places like LA and Baltimore during their lapses in civil obedience maybe they think having guns will help them, should it ever happen to them. As to "scaring the government"- considering the fact that America was founded on dissent and civil disobedience I don't see why that's considered unusual thing for them to be concerned about.
>>30153130
Than Canada* whoops
>>30145635
European posters on /k/ are the reason why it's so miserable and unfunny nowadays
>>30145655
>I don't think everyone should be allowed to have guns because of how absolutely fucking stupid a lot of people are
Makes sense. I think a big problem with gun control is that it's more focused on limiting what kinds of guns people can have, rather than a better process for qualifying ownership and teaching responsible habits. There's some legislation being proposed in CA that I don't disagree with stating the courts can be petitioned to confiscate your firearms if you appear dangerous to family, coworkers, etc, but I believe a DMV-type organization should be made to perform more extensive background checks, written and practical tests, basic medical/psych evaluations, documentation, and periodic license renewals. I also believe proper and responsible gun use should be taught at an early age in a mandatory scouts program.
>>30148728
>You cannot be on the left and support gun rights.
I'm pretty left of center on most topics and I strongly support gun rights. Gun ownership should be nigh-universal among responsible citizens.
>>30148929
>The whole EDC pocket jewlery show and tell phenomenon is cancer. If you don't carry a gun, a knife, and a flashlight you are a cuck though.
I don't feel everyone needs to carry a gun all the time. Not everywhere is that dangerous. I wear gym shorts most of the time because they're comfy and I live in a place with warm weather, and carrying a gun just doesn't make sense. Even a knife and a flashlight honestly, if I'm just going out to the corner store or to grab some groceries. Different story if I'm going out at night to a bad part of town, or I'm expecting civil unrest.
>>30152633
well sounds to me like theres nothing wrong with the rifle man, you just should have bought something else, I love mine, but I love old rifles
