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Battalion level edition. Could you equip a battalion sized element of infantry with copies of your gear? Would they be effective? What would the privates bitch about? How expensive would it be?
Im pretty sure everyone would bitch about tubes, and someone's going to rip their 6/12 webbing. I think everything else would be pretty well received. Saw gunners and ammo bearers would NEED a bigger belt.
Custom gear options is basically Special Forces.
Clearly a standarization of personalised equipment doesnt work and that's why SF has relative freedom of gearing up.
It would be more effective than standard issue, but you can't get past the personal taste and allocation of stuff that will never work for everyone.
>>30144142
Repasting. I'm taking my kit out on a hike along with my MR pack today. Nice and light. I really, really love how light and balanced the belt feels now.
I'm be grabbing some new armor soon. I already have an IBA but my chest is too big to let me close the top, and a custom made plate carrier from a friend but it was his first attempt and it has no features or MOLLE. Pretty sure I';; either rebuy a PIG or a Mayflower.
>>30144142
i think they would prefer different radios and a bigger ifak.
>>30144142
>>30144415
there were threads about this subject tho. i made this because of aesthetics
>>30144142
>>30144216
that hat looks comfy
>>30144559
It really is. I'm walking around my house in just the belt & hat right now. Super comfy.
Fuck UPS
Fuck UPS
>>30144142
I'm pretty sure the privates would bitch about the lack of armor, and the shitty radio at the very least. They'd probably bitch about the assault pack too, lets be real. They'd probably also demand a lower profile IFAK.
>>30144799
Any reason you don't put the pistol mags on the belt?
>>30144763
Yeah, fuck UPS. Where are you at chimps? I might be able to help.
>>30144142
Is this inflation-adjusted?
>>30144836
No particular reason but I've been thinking about moving them after someone mentioned they should go on the belt in one of these threads. I have the pouches to put on a belt. I'm getting a new handgun soon so once I get more mags for that I'll mess with the placement a bit more.
>>30144861
>$170 for a WWII setup, including M1 rifle
fuck no.
>>30144900
Yeah, people sometimes have their reasons so I didn't want to be all screaming about "do it this way". To me keeping the pistol mags with the pistol just makes sense though. You won't be using one without the other.
How you keeping the belt pouches from sliding?
>>30144163
Ied or rpg hits your faggot ass mrap and a small fire starts and your dumb ass combat shrit is melted to your stupid body as I look down at your stupid face as you scream for me to help you. I will just look knowing the survivability of a circumstances burn to the abdominal are is 30%=10%. I can't push morphine Cuz it will drop your vitals and send you in to a tail spin then you will get lifted out and all the way to fuck but Germany or bamc and you will die from infection.
>>30144839
Live in western NC and the package was last scanned in Raleigh
It's a hardshell pant that was supposed to keep me dry all weekend at Nuggetfest. I'd almost be willing to go pick it up in person at whatever distribution center it's at right now.
>>30144965
You having a stroke there bud?
>>30145001
Only stroking my dick with mre jelly and a picture of you
>>30144918
I agree completely. It just makes sense to keep pistol mags with the actual pistol. As for the pouches sliding around I wouldn't use the ones on my chest rig. I have a few smaller ones designed for a belt. The belt also has velcro on the back for extra support.
Is a 1911 a retarded idea as a sidearm?
Its my only handgun right now, but damn I like it.
I never see wet weather gear mentioned in these threads. Is it just an oversight or is there zero priority given to it. Living in a former sub tropical climate with the wet season here I have a particular interest.
>>30145122
I live in the desert. Rain is usually not much of an issue here. I do have waterproof boots but that's pretty much the extent of it I do keep a Pancho in pack just in case though. No actual wet weather gear other than my boots though.
>>30145122
we talk about it a decent amount. most of us have water proof jackets. i keep a snugpak poncho and my llbean stormchaser jacket with my gear.
>>30145176
That's true too. I forgot about my softshell jacket. One of the cuffs tore and I need to repair it. But other than that it's pretty solid.
>>30145064
plenty of people carry 1911s. there are still plenty of units in the military that carry them too.
>>30145176
i also have a surplus canvas anorak which is supposed to be waxed. I haven't gotten around to rewaxing it.
this shit http://www.ansontactical.co.uk/acatalog/atlas.html fire proof cut resistant man it is god tier
>>30145216
looks like a ballsweat factory
>>30144980
Packages aren't usually held unless a delivery change option is made by the customer, or a delivery intercept by the shipper. Generally the 27 are is not particularly strong. You sure YOU didn't fuck it up?
Anyways, in 13 hours i will have access to the intranet. I may be able to upgrade your service level and redirect your package for local pickup in the roanoke 240-9 SLIC sat 8am local time at the latest. Obviously your tracking number would reveal your identity to everyone. But if you give me the shipper name and the last 4 digits of your tracking # you would only be revealed to me, any other authorized UPS employee, and/or motivated federal agents.
I can make no guarantees, though.
>>30144197
Oh absolutely. This is purely just to switch things up, a little thought exercise
>>30144965
You know combat shirts are FR right?
>>30145216
>implying you can operate in a gas mask with a 100% non-breathing jumpsuit on for longer than five minutes
>>30145244
I can't think of anything I've done that would have messed it up, all I've done is check the tracking number frequently. I ordered it Sunday, paid $20 for the 3 day select, Monday was a federal holiday, and it shipped Tuesday. I'd be more understanding if it got delayed until tomorrow, but why is it going to take 4 extra days to get three hours to my location?
Could you (or UPS) actually get it sent to Roanoke by tomorrow? That would be pretty awesome. The last four digits are 5338 and the shipper is US Elite Gear. Should I call UPS and see if they can get that ball rolling now?
>>30145294
i'm sure all of us could do it for way longer then we think but it would literally be the worst experience in the world for most of us.
>>30145334
the biggest issue is hyperventilating. the only time i've done that was in fire school when we were seeing how long we could work in full gear with a mask on. it sucks massive balls.
>>30144142
Of course better protection equals less causalities. However I think the type of fighting and the intensity of the wars/conflicts is a huge confounding variable for those ratios.
>>30145122
generally I keep
I keep an oversided froggtoggs all sport suit in my ruck, and put it over my gear when it's raining,
mission dictates kit.
I have some dedicated non-disposible waterproofs,but I hardly use them.
>>30145216
Go for a jog in a MOPP suit and see how "god tier" those suits are
I have PTSD from that shit.
>>30145626
man the fuck up, we had to wear MOPP 4 for 45 mins-2 hours in 90 degree weather. its obviously not comfortable but you can wear one for more than 5 mins without dying.
R8, I keep a 2 liter canteen in the buttpack.
>>30145404
on top of that wearing jumpsuits and heavy shit strapped to your back It makes me feel like my spine is being crushed.
>>30145697
practical/10
why dont you have a canteen pouch? you could also add a hydration bladder above the buttpack that would work with the harness.
>>30145740
The rig did not come with one, so I just use the buttpack as one. I hadn't thought of adding a bladder to the harness. thx m8
>>30145689
>goes on 5min jogs.
>man the fuck up
Yeah, I'm exaggerating a bit; but, it's not something worth putting yourself through willingly as a civvie.
>>30145782
yeah if you get one of those condor hydration carriers that doesn't have straps you can just attach it to the harness and those come with a source hydration baldder for cheap. i think it was 30 bucks for the whole thing on amazon. i got mine for cosplay reasons.
>>30144142
Considering all I have is an AR, Glock, LBT 6094 and 3 day pack and helmet then yes I could. They'd bitch about something, probably the cummerbund being velcro and not something super high speed like buckles or tunes. Or the shoulder pads could be wider/more padded.
Here's rhetoric inflation adjusted figures for OP pic.
WW2 1945
>$2,262.86
Vietnam 1968
>$7,654.05
Iraq 2006
>$20,957.43
>>30146039
>rhetoric
Fucking piece of shit ass phone.
repostan
Looking for a greyman/low profile non-tactical looking bag under $150-$200. Would like it to pull double duty as a school bag, so if it fits a 15-17" laptop it's a huge plus. I'll be moving around a lot so something that keeps in place with good straps is preferable.
Already checked out the Vertx EDC (closest to what I'm looking for), Maxpedition doesn't offer anything I like, and neither does 5.11. Anyone have any recommendations?
>>30145859
Condor does not come with a source. That bladder is an upcycled gallon freezer bag and some fish tank tubing with a dasani sport top duct-taped to it compared to a source.
>>30146378
the one i bought came with a source bladder. it says source on it.
>>30146039
i'm pretty sure that it's adjusted already man night vision and shit costs thousands of dollars.
>>30146485
Like >>30144909 said, it isn't. $20k is about right, $3k for NVG (not everyone gets thermals but let's assume this guy is special so that's another $4k), $1400 for body armor, $800 for the rifle with accessories, and that's all the big ticket items. The rest is misc gear.
>>30146485
Oh shit. I misunderstood. I adjusted for 2006 because that's when the OP pic came out. As you can see, it's about $3,500 of inflation in the last ten years so I felt it was fair since I was adjusting for 1945 and 1968.
>>30144142
>Could you equip a battalion sized element of infantry with copies of your gear?
copies of MY gear? yeah we can do that.
>Would they be effective?
nope
>What would the privates bitch about?
BYOGAG (bring your own guns, ammo, gear)
>How expensive would it be?
$0.00
>>30146718
so you are a noguns?
>>30145404
>>30145726
running battle drills in MOPP 5 taught me what true hell was. seriously.... I vented so many times I started having nightmares about suffocating in my mask. call me a bitch all you want but run battle drills in MOPP 5 on kelly hill during august and you'll get PTSD i swear it
>>30146774
no thanks. I never want to have to wear a sealed suit and a respirator while doing physical activity.
>>30146774
1. There is no such thing as MOPP 5.
2. Running battle drills in MOPP is retarded as it wastes time getting out of the area, and wearing gear over MOPP degrades its effectiveness, as does throwing yourself at the ground.
>>30146746
>noguns
bitch I'm noguns, nogear, nohouse, nojob
get on my level
>>30146798
MOPP 5 = MOPP 4 with ruck
lrn2infantryfaggot
running battle drills in MOPP 5 is for one thing only.... can you guess what it was? can you guess why it lasted for days?
>>30146803
livin the life.
>>30145697
What's that rig?
>>30146811
MOPP 5 is not a level. MOPP levels already include field gear.
>Can you guess why?
Because infantry is retarded? There is no practical reason to be rolling in MOPP 4 for days on end. Your suits will have degraded massively in effectiveness and had you been in a real chemical situation your protection would have been degraded to the point of uselessness. They'd be better off teaching you how to move in a chemical environment to limit contamination, use varieties of detection equipment, and set up/help with EPDS.
I was at a JRTC event where chemical weapons were a big part of the scenerio and infantry was wearing JSLIST almost the whole time and practicing battle drills with it. Absolutely retarded waste of time. It caused them to take shortcuts on protective gear which got them "killed" when they encountered simulated threats, and the simulated threats were often going easy on them in terms of judging suit soakthrough and expired, unchanged filters.
Unless you're wearing Tyvek and SCBA, you GTFO of a chemical area quick and in a hurry, not stick around and fight.
>>30146811
Private Pyle took a jelly donut from the mess hall?
>>30146877
>MOPP 5 is not a level
yeah? well "bang stick" isn't the name for an M4 but we sure called them that anyway
>infantry retarded?
little bitch POG detected
>b-b-but it ruins your gear
hey dumbass, you realize the army has more than 1 MOPP setup right? they've even got.... wait for it.... OLD ONES!!! CRAZY RIGHT?
>JRCT
hahahahaha no wonder you're such an autist
the fact that you haven't guessed why tells me just how green you really are kiddo
Pvt CGR (army speak for "fuck up") tripped during a platoon run and took down the E6. We all laughed.
>and we never fucking laughed again, I'll tell you that
>>30146931
when my brother was in basic there was one drill instructor that would leave a soda on a desk over night every day. No one touched it for the whole fucking time until the last week of basic some fucker drank the soda and they all got smoked until graduation.
>>30146951
Yes, it ruins your gear. If you are wearing MOPP 4 for days on end it degrades your protective levels. Doing battle drills in MOPP gear is the last thing you'd want to do in a chemical environment. I'm curious exactly what your detection and decon procedures were for unmasking to eat. Or did you just hand wave it?
>JRTC
Joint Readiness Training Center. Which is where units go to do their large scale full up training.
Not green. In fact I've actually been on real chemical incidents, so it's weird to have somebody who's primary job is not to deal with this stuff talk about it.
I'd wager you were in full protective mode for invasion force on force training. Which, to reiterate, is retarded. There is no reason to be masked up for that long. It does more harm than good to both troops and to gear, which will be worn out by the time you actually need it.
hello its me
>>30146951
I just read your last bit. So ah, you did it as punishment with no regard to actual protection provided. Well, that makes your opinion on using it as protection and how long it lasts pretty useless.
I'm used to putting on chemical equipment methodically and with a purpose in mind, not because hurr durr its hot inside.
>>30147030
>Tapco
Dude, why? You clearly have cash.
>>30146951
I'll throw in the story, some may find it funny
>4am time for PT
>PS says we're doing a platoon "spirit run" with a disgruntled look on his face
>our PL must have corporate HR before he joined up
>he was always making up dumb shit like "spirit runs" and "motivation drills"
>everyone hated that guy including our SSG
>so there we are, a few miles in
>it's muggy and hot because Georgia in the summer is made out of fuck you
>PS is calling off cadence and still sounding pissed
>pvt cant-get-it-right is lagging behind
>PS lags back and starts screaming in his ear
>pvt cgr trips
>falls in front of platoon sgt who then trips over him and lands on his face
>hard
>we're cracking the fuck up
>he gets up
>he aint laughin
>OH THAT'S YOUR IDEA OF FUNNY?
>bleeding from face
>I'VE GOT SOME FUNNY IDEAS OF MY OWN
and that's how I learned that battle drills in full MOPP with a weighted alice pack can give you PTSD
>seriously
>nightmares about suffocating for like a month
>>30147021
Hey, dumbass. I already told you, we were wearing old shit and getting smoked
the fuck do you not understand here?
>JRTC
OKAY.... I'll be honest here, I read that as JROTC and thought you were just an autist ROTC kid. my bad on that.
>>30147030
>tfw the estimated shipping date for my combat shirt was 5/31 and i still don't have a shipping email.
>>30147047
>your opinion on using it as protection and how long it lasts pretty useless
i never had an opinion on it dipshit. we were wearing old gear. do you really think we'd be getting smoked in our issued MOPP? jesus kid calm down you've been arguing with yourself about MOPP
>>30147073
How you think that gives you room to talk about how it doesn't ruin the suit. Because it absolutely does. Doing it for retarded hurr durr punishment doesn't translate to getting knowledge of how the suit protective properties and hold up.
>>30147088
You talked about how doing do didn't ruin the suit and protective properties in earlier posts before coming out with the fact you were merely wearing it as punishment.
I'm used to people actually ya know, training for chemical situations when JSLIST gets broken out.
>>30147047
FFS see
>>30147061
>>30147102
I NEVER SAID IT DOESN'T RUIN THE SUIT
NOT ONCE
you guys are fuckin idiots, all I said was that we got smoked in some old gear because we laughed
it had NOTHING to do with the degradation of the suit! it was old shit nobody was going to use for anything other than smoking dickbags
goddamn this day/k/are shit is out of control
>>30147119
no. I. didn't. you. fucking. moron.
Just got my back plate for my plate carrier. Yeah I know it looks like shit.
>>30147153
you are wearing it too low and your pouch placement doesn't make sense.
What's a decent camouflage for Indiana/southern Michigan? Flecktarn? Tropic multicam?
>>30146841
kek
>have my own place, great job, car, guns, etc.
>get GF
>2 years later
>no place, no job, no car, no guns, etc.
she ruined my life. it's been nearly a year and I'm still struggling to get on my feet.
>>30144142
So I recently picked up an LBT plate carrier that says it fits medium or large sapi plate. I bought 1 large plate to gauge fit. Well the large plate fits perfect in the back but is seemingly a little too large for the front. By this I mean it sticks out the bottom by .5 inch. However there is about .75 inch room left at the top. The issue is that it seems slightly too wide to get all the way in (about 1/8th of inch on both sides) and gets stuck right were the PC cuts under the armpits.
So the question: Is the plate carrier just slightly too small (human/machine error) or am I supposed to jam the plat in so it is really tight? Or does M/L mean that one plate is supposed to be be Medium and one is supposed to be Large?
I dont think it is the last bit because the PC comes with 2 pockets on both sides. The primary pocket looks like it is designed to fit large plates and the secondary pocket looks like it is designed to fit small plates.
Any thoughts or advice?
>>30146954
Drill instructor did it.
>>30147241
you should kill her
>>30147275
probably
>>30147282
i would never do anything so morally corrupt, and clearly illegal. i wish her the best in life.
I just hope she doesn't go missing mysteriously during a tragic boating accident.
>I'm buying a boat next summer
>>30147363
you are a good boy your getting your life together you didn't do nuffin.
>>30147363
10k up front and i'll make it look like an accident.
>>30147275
>basic
>drill instructor
civilian detected. no shame, but know the difference;
>Basic Training + Drill Sergent = Army
>Boot Camp + Drill Instructor = Marines
>>30147371
just this week I got right with Jesus, and I've been going to church every Sunday
>>30147376
make what look like an accident? you're a pretty silly guy anon.
>>30147424
Exactly lol.
Self bump on this >>30147243 ?
>>30147459
lemmie look.....
>>30147243
>LBT
well there's your first problem. what you need to do is take back your sexist piece of shit, check your privilege and then buy the LBGT carrier.
>jam it in tight
as good as it feels to just jam it in there nice and tight (mmmmmmm) your plate should be "snug" but not "tight". it sounds to me your carrier isn't made to standard. my advice would be to buy a cheap ass carrier and see if your plates fit. if they do, you know it's the carrier and not the plates.
>>30147133
Dude chill. It is one guy being a retard.
What's a good brand for mag pouches?
>>30147725
taco
>>30146954
>>30147725
What kind do you want? Single stack? Double? Triple shingle? Retention focused? Speed focused? Need them to compact flat after being emptied? Colors and camo needs?
So it's fairly apparent that this point that if you want a good, non-airsoft-tier chest rig for under $50 chicoms are your best bet.
Which leads me to the question, are the reproductions complete shit to be avoided or comparable to the surplus?
>>30148013
Reproduction chicoms are condor tier
>>30148013
there isn't really a reason to get a reproduction. the real ones are cheap and in good condition because they have never been used for anything.
>>30148029
>>30148039
Good to know, thank you gearfags
>>30147380
Noted.
Thanks for not being an ass about it.
>>30147380
he was just parroting what i said and i said instructor.
>>30148013
Talking airsoft reproductions of modern tactical gear? It's crap. Those put all the focus on *looking* good, not being especially tough or using high quality materials (especially the stitches, Velcro, and elastic). Even high end airsofters just buy real shit instead of repro.
The reason chicom is so cheap is because it is mass, mass, mass produced and it's dead simple. No printed camo pattern, no MOLLE, no plastic parts. Just nylon and some wood tabs.
The next cheapest gear is going to be US surplus ALICE and then FLCs. Similarly, this stuff is cheap due to mass production and not paying a license on stuff like "operator" camo patterns.
>>30148123
>tfw Canadafag with a VZ-58
>tfw magazines without a doubt wouldn't work in an Alice rig
Damn shame, Alice is goddamn sexy, I guess that's my punishment for being a slavfag and not getting the QBZ-97 instead
>>30148123
>Talking airsoft reproductions of modern tactical gear? It's crap. Those put all the focus on *looking* good, not being especially tough or using high quality materials (especially the stitches, Velcro, and elastic). Even high end airsofters just buy real shit instead of repro.
Mostly true but not always. Pantac and Flyye make excellent products, priced between real shit and cheap repro, made of 500D or 1000D cordura, and pretty durable.
Also they look good, because they're accurate copies of what Paraclete and Eagle Industries make.
UBAC/combat shirts boys, to tuck or not to tuck?
>>30148307
Tuck
So I got this plate carrier for free the other day. Its kind of a size too small. Should I bother getting plates for it or should I save my money for a better fitting plate carrier?
>>30148307
If you have to reach for shit on your pants belt tuck, if not untuck. AR670-1 ain't got shit on you.
>>30148307
tuck
>>30148013
I guess I should also ask how do you distinguish surplus from repro?
I mean sure the listing says it's surplus but people also advertise Ethiopian heat treated opals as genuine Australian black opals.
>>30148334
>ABU
Ewwwwwwwww
>>30148334
That's a pretty trash plate carrier, you should send it to me so I can dispose of it properly :^)
>>30148334
Did someone weld two pennies on your front pouch?
>>30148353
I mean I got it for free. Its not like it was going to be first choice if I was buying a plate carrier.
>>30148377
Those are just those snap button things.
>>30148555
nice tits m8
>>30148555
nice trips and tits
>>30147030
I've been wondering if all this time you'd like to meet
>>30147030
how do you like your siege-r?
>>30146080
>wants non-tactical bag
>goes to tactical companies
gg
>>30148555
Ranger Panties
>>30148668
>>30148631
4u
>>30149422
So comfy.
>>30145064
Any sidearm is better than none
>>30147030
Maybe it's just me, but if a mag isn't readily identifiable as a PMAG or Lancer, you fucked up (I also accept USGI)
>>30147153
Gotta assume that's not an IR chemlight - pick up an obstructor
http://www.tareinco.com/military-chemlight-holder-for-6-chemlights-not-included/
Also: >>30147216
>>30148351
surplus should feature chink writing, look dusty, and have some wear if you're lucky
>>30149562
They really are.
You're not a fag in the bees, your outlets are too nice. RI or Senior in Regiment. Calling it.
>>30149581
I'm an orange beret.
>>30147231
alpenflage or anything dark
>>30146865
SPOSN Smersh as for the model I am not entirely sure.
>tfw no company will ever make a high quality reproduction of the sunrise suit
>>30149655
I know you guys fought for Israel, but this is just meta
How's it going /gq/
>>30150223
>>30149655
I'm honestly not sure if I get what's happening here or not.
>>30150070
take up tailoring, make your own, sell them for a grand a pop or whatever you can make money on, profit
recommend me a chest rig that can fit g3 mags
>>30150809
Any particular price range?
>>30147060
Cause I'm a cheap nigger
>>30147081
Which combat shirt did you buy
>>30148769
Hello, can you hear me?
>>30148817
It's like wearing a big fat sex with soft armor and plates
>>30149572
The mags are tapco, they're pretty easily identifyable
Also PSA I got a big bunch of SEEL clothes today, mega comfy but gonna sell it all
>>30150829
200 bux
Is it ever recommended to wear a chest rig without a shirt if it gets really hot or is that guaranteed nipple chaffing?
>>30150951
wear pasties
they'd deal
got a bunch more medical gear today, still need some 14g darts tho
>>30150994
Where's the CPR mask and one way valve?
>>30151022
Not in that pic, but CPR masks blow, I want to get a "pocket" BVM or two
>>30144216
Looks pretty poorfag. Why do people even use cheapo gear like this?
>>30151035
>CPR masks blow
You cheeky fuck
>>30151094
>poorfag
>cheapo gear
You just answered your own question
>>30146419
What one did you get and when did you get it? I just pulled the one I have out and it is SBS with a soft stretchy hose cover. If you got a source bladder with the pouch, that is a hell of a deal. I got mine like 2 years ago. Maybe they have enough markup to throw their pouch in gratis?
My genuine source bladder alone cost more than the condor bag and bladder kit.
>>30149572
What are you carrying in the pouches and pack?
Why is it none of you gear queers can display your shit as well as this? I wanna see what's in 'em packs
>>30151191
the pack for the belted ammo is neat, i didnt know they were carried like that. i wonder why he has belted ammo though?
>>30151099
kek and I wasn't even trying for the pun. easier to tire yourself with a pocket mask vs. a BVM, and more oxygen with the BVM than exhaled air
>>30151214
This picture is way more than what a single somebody would carry on a patrol or mission. Seems like a big mismash of different gear that would be carried by different people at the time.
Though a rifleman may carry a portion of beltfed ammo to help support the MG sometimes as well.
>>30151035
PBVM are nice but make sure to get the big ones. Pocket CPR masks are nice backups and should be on hand because how fuckhard they are to kill. And you can have 10 for every PBVM.
>>30147241
Wat happen tell us moar
>>30151191
now i want a mars bar
>>30150809
Chicom type 63
This anon uses them
>>30151191
>Only one rifle
>No handguns
>>30151191
>>30151437
looks like shit tho senpai
>>30151507
What chest rig?
>>30151244
Non-light infantry fucking detected
>>30144763
guess you should have paid for the extra shipping.
>>30151529
gay
>>30151529
to each his own.
To me, there is beauty in simplicity
>>30151569
Made by Specter, Don't think they have them anymore though.
I have just enough gear to get me into trouble :^)
>>30151094
It would surprise you how much expensive gear I own and have used. Honestly, this cheap ass belt and setup are the most comfortable and lightest gear I've found. Some people get blinded by that conspicuous spending mentality rather than just using and adjusting the gear to themselves. The gear is there to help *you* operate, not do the operating for you. To each their own.
>>30151748
love the IFAK label
>even a fucking double mag pouch from condor (a company known for cheap ass gear) cost more than a type-56/81 chest rig
Is there something I'm not getting here? I can't tell if just about everything that isn't chicom is stupidly overpriced or if chicom is just stupidly underpriced.
Is a bit of velcro and some extra canvas for molle really worth about $80? Is chicom literally made out of paper or something?
I don't understand this pricing!
>>30152004
chicom is love chicom is life
>>30152004
Chicom is insanely low priced. This is because of the huge mass scale it is produced on and because the chest rigs are fucking simple. Most only have non-patterned cloth and a few wood tabs. Simple as fuck, and they have been made in bulk for literally decades.
Compared to Condor, which is a small, single company which makes gear in patterned camo, makes gear with a variety of materials (canvas, velcro, zipper, buttons, buckles, etc) in a single pouch, and which has to do more complicated sewing like MOLLE loops on front and the attachment straps on back. More effort intensive than chicom and done on a smaller scale.
Next to Chicom, the next most underpriced stuff is US surplus. For the reason that it has been made in insane bulk amounts for decades. US stuff is more expensive than Chicom because it has more complex construction and materials, but it's still cheap as fuck for what it is.
>>30152004
Literal slave-labour and surplus items.
Its like comparing ALICE packs to modern hiking packs.
>>30151191
This is the closest I have and it's mega outdated
>>30150865
But dude, tapco is like the single-ply of magazines, and you're better than tapco. I know you are. Love yourself...
>>30151163
I've got an old pic of the pack's contents laid out, but that was when it was a dedicated BOB. Right now is just some core items:
>rations for 2-3 days
>4-5 spare mags
>IFAK
>survival shit (trash bags, fire making, water tabs, etc)
>change of socks/undies
>hydration bladder
>misc shit like cord, lamps, multitool
Here's a close-up of the chest rig,
Little pockets:
>fruit snacks
>mini-IFAK (ppe, gauze, ace bandage, tape, antiseptic, AfterBite)
>cleaning kit (boresnake, bolt scraper)
>spare 10 round glock mag
>spare earpro
>baofeng BF-F8+
>granola bar
Big pouches:
>40 round pmag x2
>30 round mag x2 (pmag, USGI)
>33 round glock mag (9x19)
>eod robotics breacher bar/sheath
Glock 26 with the technaclip just kinda found itself a home
>>30144458
whats the jacket/ hoodie?
>>30151191
I'm going to do this when my 3 day pack gets here.
Best open top pistol/smg pouch that's reasonably cheap but still cool looking? I enjoy the ITW fastmags but there are some things they can't carry.
>>30150784
You know, people would actually give a fuck about your post if you took three seconds to flip it.
I'll do it this time. Next time, learn to computers.
Out of curiosity which countries ration pack is the best?
>>30152590
Russian ones looks delicious and I like how they're setup for 3 meals in one day per pack, although I've never tried them myself.
>>30152640
I have to admit I'm really curious about that eggplant paste, and the beef rice is supposedly delicious
>>30152681
If I can get a hold of one or six I'm going to and see how well they fit into a pack field stripped, then taste test them.
so considering I Live in the communist shit hole of California for the next 2 years I'm thinking of getting an SKS and finding a light weight aftermarket stock for my fighing rig seeing as how I suspect Ill need on here sonner or later any thoughts?
>>30152724
To be honest the surplus stock is usually lighter and far more durable than most aftermarket stocks, there's a reason SKS's have found their way into just about every single war from 1945 to present
>>30152590
theres some asian milf on youtube that tries rations from all around the world. She liked the Russian one a lot
>she thought the pork sausage in gravy MRE was good
>smells like cum
>good
>milf
>masturbate
>>30152724
>SKS
>aftermarket stock
lift more or get a better gun. I've got an SKS with the tapco shit stock and it's awful. The weight balance gets all fucked up if it's not in the wood stock because the front end is pretty heavy. I would do what literally every other gun owning californian does and make a cali legal AR/AK with a bunch of 30 round makes with a blocker to make them 10rd mags, and have all the parts to convert the gun to standard if shit goes south.
>pull block out of mags
>remove bullet button or whatever cuck shit you guys have
alternatively. Move.
>>30150784
What carrier is this?
>>30152428
I'll buy steel when they're as cheap as the tapcraps
>>30152640
>>30152681
the beef rice was pretty good, probably my favorite out of everything even though it was drenched in oil. the eggplant was really tart,it reminded me of ketchup. the funniest thing was that the liver tasted faintly like a hot dog but not much else
>>30150789
Mayflower LPAC with m4 placard.
>>30152877
Umm, what?
>>30152557
Preview showed it vertical on my phone, but thanks for being the kind soul you are and correcting it, sorry it won't happen again eh.
>>30152889
Woops clicked wrong post to quote. I'm done Interneting tonight.
>>30152798
Mayflower LPAC with m4 placard.
>>30152799
You spend all this money on gear and you won't spend a few bucks extra on steel mags? Tapco mags are literally bottom of the barrel, you can get fixer upper steel mags for like $11 each, Jesus man you can't be that poor
I got a new PC today! Old carrier: Mayflower APC in Ranger Green.
>>30154349
New carrier: LBT 6094 in Ranger Green. I love it. I'm replacing the mag pouches with an LBT triple M4 kangaroo insert and a couple HSGI Pistol Tacos. My only issue is that the Ranger Greens are so different!
>>30148555
Are you a rob liefeld character?
>>30151094
His gear is light durable and simple. He can spend more money on ammo to train with. He is more dangerous then you
>>30152441
Usgi desert night parka
>>30152557
What PC?
>>30151191
>>30151163
For educational purposes...camera phone quality has seen vast improvements since this was taken
>>30155167
Why toilet paper instead of baby wipes? Wipes would be more compact to carry, more thorough for ass wipage, and more multiuse as all purpose body cleaners.
>>30155188
TP is lighter.
>>30155188
>>30155204
Good points. I am actually partial to baby wipes if they're available. But TP can also be used as tinder (very, very precious tinder...but hypothermia will kill you faster than a shitty ass)
>>30151748
>>30151924
>not having it labeled "help, IFAK'd up"
Guys I need help. Im trying to decide on a low profile plate carrier. I bought a WAS Covert MK1 for my fiance and she loves the thing. It works well on me but I wanted to see some other options. Any suggestions? All I have currently are the Shellback Banshee, which I hate, and the interceptor I was issued back in the day. I wanna stay under $300.
>>30155291
I will be running it with either a chest rig over it or just a battle belt.
>>30154974
Mayflower LPAC with m4 placard
>>30151748
> Not labeling mags "hole pokers" and IFAK "hole patchers"
>>30154366
How do you like the 6094 vs the APC? Is the difference big enough to justify LBT pricing or does it only make sense to buy used/contract-overrun?
>>30152590
Norwegian rations are pretty gucci. Basically like civvy hiking freeze dry stuff, only with extra protein.
>>30150865
a woodland shirt from kratos sog
>>30152004
my double mag pouch from ondor cost 23.00 CAN
Why buy a plate carrier when a vest with MOLLE webbing can carry just as much?
>>30155783
>plate carrier
>plate
>carrier
can a vest with molle webbing carry plates?
>>30155794
>muh shtf
>>30155834
You asked why buy one and the answer is to carry plates. If you want to sperg about the need for plates that is a different argument
>>30155866
You can also get a seperate plate carrier though
What's the skinny on this Contingency Procurement Group I'm seeing everywhere? I can't go five minutes without seeing ads of theirs when I'm on my phone, and maybe it's targeted advertising, but it seems to me like $300 for a IIIA FAST helmet is way too low to not be sketchy. Do they cheap out somewhere? Are they crap overall?
I've got no plans to buy one, but I'm interested regardless.
>>30155907
If it sounds too good to be true..
It is cheap Chinese knockoffs with airsoft hardware and shady manufacturing. They probably sent a solid batch to the testing lab to get the nod and them shit out the cheap shit under the cert.
It is an expensive bump helmet, might stop some shrapnel, may stop a bullet without you dying. Is it as good as a legit US made ops core fast? No way.
>>30155892
So you are asking why buy a plate carrier when you can buy a molle vest and a separate plate carrier? What?
>>30155907
>>30156004
It is also worth pointing out that the manuf. claiming a piece of armor is designed to pass NIJ testing is not the same as the piece of armor actually being NIJ certified. For example, velocity systems sells some armor plates that would pass NIJ level III testing, but because they are intended for the military which has its own testing protocols, they never bothered to get these plates tested by NIJ. Now Velocity Systems is a reputable company and their special-threat plates will stop some crazy shit like 7.62x39 API, but it's not uncommon for low end companies to make claims that suggest NIJ certification, when in fact if you look the plates up with the NIJ's list, they were never tested.
>>30146599
>$20k is about right
How?
4K + 1.4K + .8K = $6,200
Somehow rayon leather and plastic costs $15,000?
>>30156019
Well yeah, why the fuck would you always want to be carrying around fucking plates
>>30156204
So you are trying to say that buying a slick PC and a chest rig or vest is the way to go as opposed to what your original question which was
>why buy a plate carrier
I think you coulda reduced quite a few steps of Q&A here with a more well though out question.
>>30156249
Probably that yeah, why buy a plate carrier?
>>30156004
That's what I'm thinking as well. They seem to be like Browe Optics in that their helmets are sold for $1000 but they've got promo codes up for $300, which means that something's funky.
It's definitely not an Ops Core (it's about a pound heavier from what I've been reading), but at the same time it's also not a $1400 helmet (when the fuck did they up the price on that, by the way? They used to be cheaper than Airframes). Like I said, not looking to purchase one, but I'm intrigued.
>>30156122
This is also true.
>>30156275
What kind of situation are you envisioning in which you are going to carry a long gun and mags for it, but not wear any armor? For many people a situation that allows you to carry a carbine is a situation that allows you to wear a plate carrier.
>>30156153
I had a stroke and the wrote that up.
>>30156275
Because some people like their gear all together rather than split between a slick and a chestrig?
>>30156314
Well, normal people stuff?
>>30156345
What, like going to the range? Then you can just wear some mag pouches on your belt, lets you get a better position in the prone.
Anyone here has an MSA gas mask?
>>30147153
it looks like shit
>>30148039
>fatguy chicom
>>30156860
i'm really not fat. I have a bit of a gut but i am healthy and active.
>>30156876
>not fat
>have a bit of a gut
choose one (1)
>>30156887
k i choose not fat
>>30156915
in your pic the outermost pockets are already in your armpits. if you'd wear that nigger rigged chicom those pockets would be on your back. unless your are a really fat guy.
>>30157290
what the fuck are you talking about. i'm wearing it on my rib cage, its not nigger rigged. its 4 cell chicom and is crooked in that picture. I'm not a small chinese dude.
wait do you mean this >>30148039
its a 10 pocket sks rig. its not supposed to all fit on the front of your chest.
Just got an LBT 6094, first carrier ive owned. Wtf are these straps on the PC that sit where the cummerbund goes? Where do I attach these? Do they go under the cummerund?
If this was confusing i can go take a picture
>>30152759
Talking about EmmymadeinJapan? She's ok, that mole of hers bothers me. She's also not Jap just Chinese.
>>30156860
>>30157290
i get it now. you are retarded and think that sks chest rigs are the same as type 56 chest rigs.
>>30156204
You do realize you could just take the plates out of the plate carrier and use it as a chest rig if you don't want to be too heavy, right?
>>30157377
go get a photo
>>30146080
Holy shit guy. 5.11 (especially their sling bags) and Grey Ghost Gear are good starting places. Otherwise you would perfectly fine with a black or navy blue Jansport bag with a leather bottom.
>>30151191
Because cellphone cameras suck.
Are all rigger's belts more or less the same or is there a standout? I'm thinking that and a holster and some mag pouches will be my first foray into gear stuff.
>>30157641
no they don't, it's just you
