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M16 is fucking garbage?
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I'm watching a lecture on reliability engineering and the guy teaching it is a West Point graduate and he brings up the issue of M16 and what kind of a piece of shit rifle it was. He gave a whole bunch of examples and then mentioned that he probably spent a year of his life disassembling one and cleaning it all the fucking time.

kek'd fucking hard!

Were there any other rifles that were as big of a fail as M16?
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>kek'd fucking hard!

fuck off
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>>30107927
fill it in, autist.
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>>30107915
That new Indian rifle. I think it's called the INSAS, or something like that.
>individual rivets are uneven
>each gun's components are so poorly quality controlled and hand assembled that each gun is essentially semi-unique
>has a tendency to spray oil in the shooter's face
Literally sub-Chauchat tier.
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>>30107968
no surprise there. indians can't even make a fucking toilet so they have to shit on streets.
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>>30107915
For the A1 yes. It became half decent soon afterwards.
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>>30107915
I used an A4 for years and had no real issues with it and neither did anyone else I know of

Memes?
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I love summer.
Great threads are made nonstop during summer.
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We could have prevented it.
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>>30107915
So I'm torn. On one hand I enjoy the occasional bait threads no matter who the target is because eventually both sides get heated enough to start forming coherent agruements in between the name calling, so no matter what I am usually entertained and informed in the same thread.

Then there's you, OP. Your effort is subpar, the way you tell the story belies that it is completely fabricated, and your use of board/website slang indicate you are either brand new, autistic, or underage (possibly a combination of all three.

Please end this thread, start again and this time put a hair more effort into your shitty troll thread.
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Boy it sure did have those problems that we fixed a long time ago. What a piece of garbage, amirite, OP?
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>>30108008
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>>30107968
>>each gun's components are so poorly quality controlled and hand assembled that each gun is essentially semi-unique
Holy crap! Their QC is fucking garbage then and tolerance stacking killed any chance of having a reliable rifle.
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>>30108008
WTF are you on about? It's 100% true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle#Reliability

You seem to be experiencing severe asspain.
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>>30107968
the problem is they insist on having it made in-country by indian businesses.

India can't into mass production of arms, cars, or any part more complicated than a hammer or a screwdriver

So they have industries who subsist on army contracts which they know they will get no matter how badly produced they are.... and they also have shitty factories
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Butterbar POG hates on the M16.

News at 11.
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>>30108008
This.

>>30108046
Lazy trolls are the absolute fucking worst. Kill yourself.

0/10 atleast try next time
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>>30107915
>>30108008
>Trip calling out an OP

Faggot reminding a faggot that he's a faggot. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, but at least pots and kettles are useful.
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>>30108064
>Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, but at least pots and kettles are useful.
bruh
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>>30107988
Except the A1 is the rifle that made the M-16 into a perfectly viable service rifle and sent it on its way to becoming one of the best small arms every made.
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Friday, Jun. 09, 1967
Under Fire

No one in Viet Nam doubts that the stubby, black-stocked M-16 is a dangerous weapon. Of late, however, newsmen, fighting men and Congressmen alike have suggested that the wicked little (7 lbs., 39 in.) automatic rifle can be as dangerous to friend as it is to foe. Though—at the urging of General William Westmoreland—it has become the standard weapon for U.S. combat troops in Viet Nam, its critics charge that the M-16 tends to jam during the intensive firing for which it was designed, leaving many an infantryman helpless in close-up combat.

The M-16 itself came under heavy fire at home after last month's battle for Hills 881 and 861 below the DMZ. "We left with 72 men in our platoon and came back with 19," wrote a Marine Corps rifleman to his family after the battle. "Believe it or not, you know what killed most of us? Our own rifle. Practically every one of our dead was found with his [M16] torn down next to him where he had been trying to fix it." TV newsmen, in particular, took up the cry that U.S. troops were being betrayed by their own weapons. Last week two congressional subcommittees were studying the "M16 controversy."

Though the M-16's predecessor rifle, the 11¼-lb. M-14, has a longer range and fires a heavier bullet, it cannot match the M-16's maximum sustained rate of fire (up to 200 rounds a minute v. 60 for the M-14). Many Marines as well as the South Korean troops in Viet Nam are still armed with the slower-firing M-14, and as a result the Pentagon has also been faulted for failure to supply all the M-16s that the Allies in Viet Nam demanded.
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In the face-to-face warfare of Viet Nam, the rifleman needs more and faster lead than any soldier in history. To that end, the M-16 has proved itself the best weapon available. Firing light, .223-caliber bullet, backed by a magnum charge of gunpowder, the M-16 allows a rifleman to pack ten times as much ammo as his World War II or Korean War predecessors. Even on automatic, the M-16 delivers deadly accuracy over the ranges (50 ft. or less) at which most Vietnamese fire fights take place. While the M-14 delivers relatively slow-moving bullets that drill cleanly through the body, the M-16 shoots a high-velocity slug that can pulverize enemy flesh on contact.

Like any automatic weapon, the M-16 requires assiduous cleaning and care to keep it from jamming. But not as much as the .30-caliber M-14. "I could troubleshoot an M-16 much faster than I could an M-14" says Lieut Colonel Henry Miller, chief of Army heavy maintenance in Saigon. Many Marines in the battle above Khe Sanh had been issued their M-16s only a few days before the fight, and were probably unfamiliar with the weapon's demands: constant lubrication, thorough wirebrush reaming of the barrel to prevent leading, "fire discipline" that limits bursts to two or three rounds at a crack.

Out of True. Even its advocates concede that some M-16 failures may result from a weak spring in the magazine. Though the M-16 clip can hold up to 21 rounds, Marine Corps Commandant Wallace Greene recommends loads of no more than 17 or 18 rounds. Some Marines have used an old World War II trick to speed up reloading: they tape two magazines together upside down; after one magazine is burnt out, it can be swiftly inverted and the other inserted. The added weight of the second magazine, however, is enough to draw the lip of the first magazine out of true, and can lead to a bent round and a fatal jam. Moreover, Delta mud, jungle gunk, and the grit blown up by helicopter rotors demand the rifleman's constant attention.
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Even so, the great majority of Army men, who got the M-16 long before the Marines, swear by it. So do the Viet Cong. Indeed, Le Xuan Chuyen, a former North Vietnamese lieutenant colonel and veteran of 21 years of guerrilla warfare, calls the M-16 "an excellent weapon." Le Xuan, the highest-ranking Red defector to date, says the V.C. also have gripes about the M-16s they have captured. They find the M-16 ammunition almost impossible to procure.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...843858,00.html
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>>30107915
little faggot sitting behind the safety of his keyboard posts this garbage on memorial day weekend.
face it OP you're an antigun fag who thinks he is funny.
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>>30108133
>Clip
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>>30107990
were not talking about M16A4s, M16A2s, or M16A1s. were talking about M16s.
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>>30107955
you tried
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>>30107987
>can't even make a fucking toilet so they have to shit on streets.

necessity is the mother of all invention
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>>30108022
lol pinto tank

never mind that there were 50 million mustangs, mavericks, falcons, and fairlanes with the same exact design of the gas tank being the trunk floor. its just a lawyer money grab like the ford explorer/firestone tire bullshit.

its why 70% of the cost of anything in this country is product liability insurance.
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>>30108051
can't wait to see how shittily made the indjun rafales will be
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>>30107915

*XM16
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>>30107968
Chauchat in 8mm lebel was adequate.

Americans seem to have only heard of the .30-06 versions which were shit because americans couldn't convert furlongs per fortnight into metric correctly and gave the french wrong chamber specs.

Ian has a video on it. Go educate yourself shitlord
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>>30107915
>Quotes "Maine Corps Rifleman"
>Source is Wikipedia

Seems legit.
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>>30107988
Can confirm. Was issued A1 in basic and first half of regular service. Was jamtacular piece of shit that would choke if you looked sideways at it. Got A2 issued for Desert Storm. Night and Day. Reliable, functioned even when absolutely filthy and full of sand. Whatever they changed, it worked.
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