Ruger Mini 30
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For some rather silly reasons, I want to get pic related. Does anyone have experience with the barrel heating/accuracy issue? Is it still bretty gud?
>>30086972
It jams on cheap ammo.
Research it first.
>>30087059
This is a well known problem, they really only like brass cased winchester.
>>30087090
Is there a reason to that that has been measured?
>>30086972
Mini series hasn't had stringing issues since like 2008.
30s are really picky about ammo and most don't like steel-cased cheapshit, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of buying a x39 rifle.
>>30087105
Steel case wasn't nearly as widespread as it was in 1987 when the Mini-30 was introduced. 7.62x39mm was just coming onto the market at that time.
>>30087209
I was more meaning why it doesn't cycle, pressure curve is wrong, ejector doesn't like steel , etc etc
>>30086972
I want one too but it's a Garand action.
From a machining standpoint It's very complex and needs a lot of gunsmith work done when it's being assembled.
I don't see how Ruger can make a quality Garand based rifle and sell the gun for $6-700
same goes for Springfield m14s even at $1400
>>30086972
>Does anyone have experience with the barrel heating/accuracy issue? Is it still bretty gud?
Its a fun plinking gun, especially in 7.62x39 you arent going to see muh sub moa. Ensure you get a 580/581 series rifle and if you want you can put on an accu-strut for looks and tighter groups.
>>30087090
>>30087059
>>30087250
This is 100% false, it will eat steel case all damn day
Source: I owned one and sold it
>>30087284
>mine didn't do it
>Therefore the many, many reports about it are false
I am happy you had a good gun anon, but one occurrence does not make a trend.
>>30087130
What do you mean by "stringing" issues?
>>30087300
>I am happy you had a good gun anon, but one occurrence does not make a trend.
And multiple internet "reports" dont make it true either. Mine cycled tula, wolf and some really old norinco shit I also had.
>>30087250
most reasonable explanation i've read is that the firing pin strike is slightly shorter and the pin diameter is smaller so it doesn't like the hard primers in cheap steel case.
>>30087316
alright, lets run through it again
>mine didn't do it
>Therefore the many, many reports about it are false
This is a well known, established problem with mini-30s. Almost every conversation I've ever had about them, both online and in person, ended up at that point. Hell, both of them that I have fired clearly preferred brass case American made ammo.
I have no idea why.
I am very happy that you had a good one. I think that is great. But your one rifle does not mean that all Mini-30s will cycle tula reliably.
>>30087406
>Almost every conversation I've ever had about them, both online and in person, ended up at that point.
Ah so the good old my talking > your experiences argument.
I hear these glock pistols explode and that .40S&W is the best caliber. Everyone says that online and in person.
>Hell, both of them that I have fired clearly preferred brass case American made ammo.
Were they 580/581/582 series or 180/181? Were they brand new or heavily used?
Your experiences are invalid because I say so
>>30087429
>Your experiences are invalid because I say so
This was pretty much your entire argument from the get go. Glad you just came out and said it.
You seem personally invested in the functioning of the Mini-30. I don't really understand why. Your use of a tired meme as a response is also rather disappointing.
In short, I am sorry you felt the need to resort to shitposting.
And I honestly do not remember the models, I am sorry to say. It was several years ago.
>>30087467
>This was pretty much your entire argument from the get go. Glad you just came out and said it.
Except for the part where I actually owned the gun, took it apart, looked at parts and shot steel cased ammo. All you managed to do is repeat shit you heard off the internet, good job.
>And I honestly do not remember the models, I am sorry to say. It was several years ago.
Maybe you should shut up with your anecdotal evidence.
>>30087332
Hmm, woudn't explain why it doesn't like other brass cased ammo tho. Just, interested in>>30087284
why anon said it only liked Win
>>30087090
Last one was a question about his reasoning.
Were they 580/581/582 series or 180/181? Were they brand new or heavily used.
Tl:dr on the note worthy differences? I'm just curious about these now.
>>30087511
>maybe you can shut up with your anecdotal evidence
>only ever provided anecdotal evidence
Impressive lack of self awareness.
>>30087511
>calls out others for anecdotal evidence
>is literally telling an anecdote about his single rifle
I'm very impressed you took apart a rifle that you owned. Good job.
You still have not proved anything about the line of rifle.
OP, if you are still around, ignore both me and the walking failure of the educational system. If you are dead set on a mini-30, for the love of god test fire it first, and do some research on a website that isn't mostly for shitposting and anime pictures.
>>30087517
>Tl:dr on the note worthy differences? I'm just curious about these now.
180/181 series are the old school as denoted by the more square stock, single blade front sight and thinner barrel profile
580/581/582 series are the redesign that has a heavier profile barrel, 3 blade front sight post and a rounded off stock.
580/581/582 series rifles are the current production. Donot buy a 180/181 as they are most likely heavily used and suffer from the stringing issues that people complain about. Most of the memes about minis come from 2004/2005 where people were unloading heavily used rifles post AWB. The buyers of these rifles started having issues since most of them were late 80s and mid 90s production rifles with high round counts, they then went to early gun websites and started posting about issues. Now you just have a bunch of people repeating what they heard on the internet.
>>30087552
>>30087541
A sample size of 1 rifle is infinitely greater than your sample space of 0 rifles and you cannot change that.
Keep repeating stale internet memes about guns you have never shot.
>>30087556
Ah so the same issue the KO Nagants faced more or less.
>>30087406
>>30087284
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=324033
>>30087584
i mean, my sample size is two, but I am not surprised to learn that reading is hard for you my friend, as you seem to think that all the rifles were just like yours.
>>30087609
>arfcom
fukkin nope. Nice cherry pick from the full pages of results saying they don't work though.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ruger+mini-30+steelcase+failure+
>>30087619
>I had issues with two rifles and I dont know the condition, ammo type, series, age of the rifle,etc
Not an argument
>>30087631
>everything on the internet is facts when repeated multiple times
I have some arizona beachfront property you can buy for a fine price.
>>30087631
Read the link, shithead, I don't have any stake in the argument. I posted that because you were having the same discussion almost word for word.
>>30087657
Does it come with the Golden gate bridge? I've heard similar offers , but the man couldn't produce. I need this Breach front property for my range damn it!
>>30087657
>The evidence against me is meaningless because I say so
>my raifu was perfect and all her sister were too
I'm seriously wondering if you are just baiting at this point. Have a good day fapping to pictures of your perfect rifle lost I guess.
>>30087683
>The evidence against me is meaningless because I say so
>The evidence
You havent posted anything other than claims on the internet.
I went ahead and dug out some cases from my big ol bag of mini30 cases and took a photo. You can clearly see the same ring inside the dent of each primer. We have some PPU, S&B, PMC and Tula all fired from a mini30.
Please tell me more about how it wont fire steel case
>>30086972
never give Ruger money unless you cannot avoid it. doubly applied to Mini series rifles.
>>30086972
Someone gave me one of these after i did a little work for them and it was an odd gun. I fooled with it for a year or so before i traded it to someone for a CZ .22.
I'm convinced that if Ruger would do a little bit of a redesign if would be better than just mediocre but they sell enough of these in California to not give a fuck.
First thing is to redesign the gas block and make it a one piece slip on type with a pin or some kind of dovetail and open up the bore of the block so you can run a decent size barrel through it. The Mini barrel is laughably thin inside the clamp on gas block and this is the cause of most of its accuracy problems. Its not uncommon for the top and bottom pieces of the gas block not to be square. Its also pretty common for the screws that hold the block on to be torqued differently. If the gas block pieces aren't square it doesn't shoot as good because uneven pressure on the thinnest part of the barrel. Same if the screws aren't all torqued evenly.
Second thing is to let it use AK mags and the same goes for the mini 14 and ar mags. Buying Ruger mags sucks.
At the end of the day it wasn't as accurate as my AK and didn't like a lot of the steel case ammo i shot. If i could get one for under $500 i would think about it but i would never buy one new.
>>30087739
https://www.gunandgame.com/threads/mini-30-jamming-general-questions.30064/
http://rugerforum.net/ruger-semi-auto/18246-ruger-mini-30-help-please.html
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ruger-mini-thirty-alternative-ak/
http://www.ktgunsmith.com/mini14_30bolt.htm
You're actually impressively stupid, so idk why I'm bothering. But FYI the gun is so known for jamming on steel case it even has a fix for it.
>>30087209
Not a good explanation. Norinco yellow box/ sealed can surplus was the most popular 7.62x39 before imports were banned.
>>30086972
>Dat garand action
The only reason to get one
>>30086972
I have a mini 14 and I like it. The minis aren't big on steel case ammo. Out of a 100 rounds I've probably had 5 FTEs on steel case but none on brass case. I've heard that the mini 30 malfunctions on steel much more often.
