What impresses you about the Russian military?
For me, it is the PAK-FA T-50!
Here is T-50-6! Newest prototype with engine cowlings to hide engine heat. Also new cheek array with radiation sticker behind the nose radiation sticker!
What about you?
>>30057894
gorka makes my dick erect
>>30057952
that is the old 055 before the fire
>>30057894
Yeah OP, great piece of technology there. You really earned your 25 rubles this time
>>30058879
Thank you. You are friendly people.
>>30057952
what is that thing just below the front of the canopy glass, and why isn't it stealth shaped?
>>30058923
IRST, and the PAK FA looks like the Russians want to say they're building a stealth jet, but don't want to actually bother with S ducts, not having rivets everywhere, seam taping, VLO nozzles, doing something with the engines other than bare metal, etc.
>>30057952
better pic
with the 055P
your is the old 055
>>30058954
the 056 have a new engine
and VLO is retard
>>30058975
if it is, why bother having sawtooth doors, RAM, etc.?
either VLO is useful and you design around it, or you say "fuck it" and build yet another Su-27 derivative.
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
trick question
>>30057894
The SS-18 and RS-28 super heavy ICBM's
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
Dedovshchina
Neat looking plane OP.
Now actually buy the fucking things instead of buying a squadron or two.
I hope we upgrade our F-15s.
>>30059055
we're giving the entire fleet, both models, AESA.
what else do you need? there's only 2 active duty C-model squadrons anyway
for substantive updates you need to look to the F-22 or F-35
>>30058923
IRST. It rotates downwards to reduce RCS when not in use. It is in a prototype so its unfinished.
>>30059067
M-muh F-15SA/SE upgrades.
>>30059099
there's no way a C model can handle a 129 motor. the -220 is plenty for them, not even the -229. the fully electronic FBW sidestick deal is cool, but not necessary as well. the upgraded displays would be nice, though. speaking as a professional WSO, having two large HD color displays to replace the MPDs would be a game-changer.
>>30059048
I wonder, is this still a thing with the reforms and bigger % of professional soldiers?
>>30059114
I'm more interested in the IRST, personally.
They're an amazing upgrade for practically any aircraft that can mount them.
>>30057894
Absolutely nothing impresses me about the Rusky .mil
They are all just waiting to die at the hands of the United States' superior force.
>>30059137
the SA has IRST via Sniper Pod
>>30057894
The fact that it's lost literally every war it's ever fought but the country still exists.
>>30059175
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia
>>30058975
>hey is greatest STEALTH aircraft ever!
>...wuts VLO? "Very Low Obervance", the stuff that actually makes it stealthy? You mean it isn't actually stealth if everyone with WW2-era and better radars can see it from 500+km? LIES! YOU INSULT THE MOTHERLAND!
>>30059175
You don't become that big without winning most wars that matter.
>>30059201
VLO is a shit
>no canards
why even trying?
They've never had the balls to defy injustice and demand democracy.
>Muh Karl Marx
>>30059230
it have canards
>>30059256
they're more like LEX slots
>>30059203
Starting in 1900, since I figure basically the last 120 years should be a good representation of their current doctrine:
>Boxer Rebellion
Played peanut gallery for the actual world powers
>Russo-Japanese War
Got their asses kicked
>World War 1
Got their asses kicked
>Basmachi Revolt
Fought out a pyrrhic victory against shitty terrain and less than 30,000 people, but a victory is a victory rite?
>Russian Civil War
I guess this is kinda a tie since they both won and lost
>Ukrainian War of Independence
Resounding victory
>Kazakhstan Campaign
Minor victory, took very heavy casualties
>Finnish Civil War
Got their asses kicked by a force a tenth their size
>Latvian War of Independence
Got their asses kicked by a force a fifth their size
>Estonian War of Independence
Got their asses kicked by a coalition that was still a fifth their size
>Lithuanian-Soviet War
Got their asses kicked by a force a fifth their size
>Georgian-Ossetian Conflict
Got their asses kicked
>Polish-Soviet War
Got their asses kicked by *polacks*
>Turkish War of Independence
Resounding victory
Shall I continue?
>>30059280
Do whatever you wish. I'm not even Russian.
>>30059266
LEX and T-50 canards are two differents design
and it already have LEX
>>30059294
Meh. Too much typing so I'll tl;dr it.
>tl;dr
3 major victories, 19 major defeats, 7 ongoing brushfire conflicts, 4 major stalemates, 47 minor defeats, 13 minor victories, 2 minor stalemates since 1899
SO that's a record of 16:66:6 with 7 undecided. They SUCK. Throughout the majority of history they've sucked. They haven't been a "winning" military power since the late 1600's.
>>30059280
>Georgian-Ossetian Conflict
>Got their asses kicked
I'm not a hardcore military historian, but I know you are trolling. Yes, they performance was more of a blunt object, but they still won that one.
>>30059295
they're not really canards though. they're in the same position as the moveable ramps on a F-15 and hinged at the same spot.
>>30059326
you lost against starved rice farmers with bamboo sticks though
![c06f7b6f598045c6cf3734039c761b69[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GxcH6N5.jpg "c06f7b6f598045c6cf3734039c761b69[1].jpg")
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
Their lack of socks.
>>30059359
F-15 ramp are there to control air flow into the air intake
this one is clearly for maneuver
>>30057894
>T-50-6
Finally!
>>30059280
Try harder.
>>30059368
>B-but muh Nam
It's always this, the war where US destroyed militarily, forces the north to sign a treaty and left. South Vietnam was a country for two years before North invaded again, and US didn't do anything because political opinion had shifted.
Also Vietnamese forces where a lot more than 'rice farmers with bamboo sticks'
>>30059389
i'd disagree that they're for maneuver. they look like slots or slats to me.
America lost Crimea to Russia.
>>30059500
You can't lose something you did not fight for nor cared for.
Now go back 2ch.
>>30057894
You need to make your bait a more subtle.
>>30058923
This thing is made of RF transparent glass and does not need a special stealth shape.
>>30057894
Their Seal teams are adorable.
>>30059382
Fixed already. But the purists still whine about superior footwraps.
>>30059473
Mention Vietnam
@
Enjoy oceans of fatnik damage control and butthurt
>>30059632
and Adidas
>>30059657
Valenki in style.
>>30059004
VLO is useful, but you need maintain a some balance between stealth and other specs.
>>30059048
>im Chechen
>i could literally bully russians and make them do what i want with no repercussions
i miss the army
>>30058954 """""""""""bare metal engines""""""""""
see
>>>>>>>30057952
>>30059280
Sigh. American "education" everyone.
>Played peanut gallery for the actual world powers
The combined allies(including Russian forces) that took on the peasants(Boxers) numbered in the 50k. Meanwhile 100-200k Russian troops were invading Manchuria and killing the 100k Chinese Imperial forces(it was brutal af, the Chinese fought valiantly and to the last man), the actual soldiers. So much for peanut gallery.
>Got their asses kicked
True
>Got their asses kicked
But not before fucking up the Austrians something fierce.
>Fought out a pyrrhic victory against shitty terrain and less than 30,000 people, but a victory is a victory rite?
Modern forces had trouble fighting in mountains, let alone troops whose only real advantage is much better guns and training and horses. Btw this shit still shapes the region to this day.
>Kazakhstan campaign
>Minor victory, took very heavy casualties
>Finnish Civil War
>Got their asses kicked by a force a tenth their size
>Latvian War of Independence
>Got their asses kicked by a force a fifth their size
>Estonian War of Independence
>Got their asses kicked by a coalition that was still a fifth their size
>Lithuanian-Soviet War
>Got their asses kicked by a force a fifth their size
And now you are just making shit up. A quick perusal of wiki of the OOBs tells me you're full of shit.
>Georgian-Ossetian Conflict
>Got their asses kicked
South Ossetia remained de facto independent then until now so you're full of shit yet again.
>Polish-Soviet War
Crushed Pilsudiski's dream of Intermarium, ensuring that a Polish state will always be at the mercy of Germany and Russia.
>Turkish War of Independence
Apart from acting like yids selling weapons to both sides and acting as diplomatic link they didn't participate.
The fact that they can go to war with well-defined strategic objectives that don't cause them to bog down in a quagmire.
>Georgia, go in, capture key tunnel, slap people around, force surrender, leave
>Ukraine, nab strategic peninsula as cleanly as possible before anyone can react, set up a frozen conflict with just enough materiel support to stop Ukraine from pushing across the defined border
>Syria, provide air support to allies on the ground to take key urban centers, then scale back support to a skeleton crew used for harrassment of the enemy.
None of this "go in, occupy, attempt to secure hearts and minds, keep failing for 15 years while bodycount increases, public support wanes and money bleeds". They learned their lesson from Afghanistan, good on them.
>>30058954
>not having rivets everywhere
Nothing wrong with rivets. They'll paint RAM over it anyway.
I really hate that paint job...
>>30057894
I went to a refugee camp to bring UN food assistance. Turned out to be a Russian military post.
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
That they fucked their deal to sell their new fighter to India because they saw how shit and overpriced it really was.
Also
>vatnik shilling this hard
>>30059990
>being this mad about Russia getting BTFO by shitty small states like the Baltic 'countries'
>>30057894
>impresses me about the vatniks
Nothing
>>30058879
>F-35 caught on fire too
>>30059004
I don't understand you people; you praise the Su-35, but a call the PAK FA dog shit. At very least, the T-50 is an Su-35 with LO and better sensors.
>>30057894
Maskirovka.
Russia actually manage to trick stupid people in the west to think that they didn't down MH17 and that they don't have troops in Ukraine.
>>30059256
LERX
>>30057894
The fact that they can keep so much old ground equipment running despite a severe lack of maintenance over the past two decades.
Their online PR game is really impressive how they can get so many shills going all at once.
Russia has a military?
>>30060289
>2016
>not knowing the difference between rivets and hex bolts
>>30060673
>everyone in the west is fooled by Russia
No. No. Mmmmm no.
Russia is like that akward kid in high school. The world is pretty much high school, but Russia is that awkward kid who always rambles on about his Karate skills, how his dad has a bunch of guns he shoots all the time, and generally tries to fit in. At this point, he just casually laugh everything Russia says and looks away because they're so damned weird.
Its not that we don't know, its that you guys are fucking weirdos.
>>30060673
Only stormkikes and vatniks on proxies actually believed that though.
>>30060691
They are on par with our unpaid state militias.
>>30060673
>fool the west that they didn't have troops in Ukraine
yeah no, everyone knew. Poland/Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia were on the verge of mobilizing
>>30060306
The X-35 and the YF-22 had similar paintjobs.
Maybe this is an homage of Sukhoi towards its Lockheed counterparts.
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
That they can rapidly mobilize tens if not hunderds of thousands of troops in just mere days.
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Snap_Check_2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Snap_Check_2013
Also, by the gods, they finaly gave the Su-T50 some proper engine-cowlings and installed the cheek arrays.
>>30059382
Older guys in our (latvian) National Guard unit still remember these from the soviet times. Compared to today's footwear these supposedly win in every aspect.
>>30061059
>in days
The planning for it was months in advance.
>>30061078
>The planning for it was months in advance.
At the headquarters of the armed forces in Moscow perhaps, but not done by the units in the far east. They only received their orders the previous day in that excersise.
The point of these snap drills is to check how the state of readiness is among the units stationed throughout the Federation. And that readiness seems to be very excellent indeed because the scale of those snap drills match or even exceed the scale of the drills held by the Soviet Union in the famous Zapad drills.
It is the result of applying the lessons learned from the 08-08-08 war in Georgia.
>>30057894
What impresses me about the Russian military is that they have all this money for shills for them, but they don't have any money for decent equipment or training.
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
Nothing really. It's all posturing and dick-waving to puff themselves up as "better" than the west because their machismo demands it.
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian Military
>Planes
Probably the fact that they can straight up commit war crimes and the rest of the world just shakes their heads and say "Ohhh Russia.." They're like the only true non-cuck nation left.
That and the fact that Russians just don't fucking give up. No matter what the situation is.
>>30061155
>They're like the only true non-cuck nation left.
Norway, Poland, Hungary, Ceskaland and Slovakia would like a word with you, slavaboo
>>30060699
So the fucking school shooter then? The fuck does that make the west? The popular clique that gets mowed down when our protagonist achieves peak euphoria?
>>30060744
>Poland/Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia were on the verge of mobilizing
They never stopped being on the hair trigger for mobilization. They are always on the verge- not that anyone can notice the difference though.
>>30060682
>The fact that they can keep so much old ground equipment running despite a severe lack of maintenance over the past two decades.
Except that they can't, actually. For instance most of their 20k strong tank fleet is now reduced to 6k; 2k active and 4k in reserve most of which are late model T-72/90/80 variants from 80s and beyond. With the forced retirement of T-80s they would have no choice at all but to buy 2k T-14s as replacements.
>>30060625
>Being this asspained people see through your bullshit.
meh/10 try harder friendo.
>>30061203
>Ceskaland
?
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
Their modern ships are visually pleasing to me. That's about it really.
>>30059990
>Crushed Pilsudiski's dream of Intermarium, ensuring that a Polish state will always be at the mercy of Germany and Russia.
pretty sure that Russia getting btfo meant Lenin's dream of a gommie Europe was over m8
>>30061239
>Russia getting btfo
>>30061203
>Norway
>Plans to spend part of Sovereign Wealth Funds on refugees.
>Poland, Hungary, Ceskaland and Slovakia
>can bleat all they want but when it comes down to it receives its marching orders from Berlin or Washington all the same.
>>30061203
This actually made me laugh. As a slavaboo am I supposed to rage at the unironic and unashamed projection of the coalition of cucks here? Sorry if I wasn't.
>>30059632
>>30061075
Not sure how cotton or linen wraps could possibly be in any way better than a double pair of synthetic socks system.
>>30061274
The Sweden-Ukraine part of this one is the best pun of all these pics.
>>30061135
No, the planning and prepositioning of fuel and material was done well beforehand. Putin only gave the 'go' order a day before for PR purposes.
>>30061262
The Polish-Soviet War isnt the best example of Russian military might
>>30061203
Cool sounds good. They better get the OK through daddy NATO first.
They better hurry before Russia reclaims them through a "civil war."
>>30061274
>>30061344
>subhumans obsessed with war against America and NATO because of getting rekt in the Cold War
>sustaining a war with an economy the size of Spain
literally kebab tier delusional mentality
>>30057894
infantry
>>30061287
Smoother texture and better cooling.
>>30061358
>subhumans obsessed with war against America and NATO because of getting rekt in the Cold War
Nice projection. They aren't the ones accruing gargantuan amounts of debt feeding the MIC and stringing bases around the likely adversary.
>sustaining a war with an economy the size of Spain
Its 476+1540, still believing wars are won purely by having a better economy.
How do you explain the barbarian hordes like the Mongols, Huns, Goths, Xiongnu, etc. defeating peoples with vastly richer economies?
>>30061409
I would argue Mongols having worse economy than the Europe though.
>>30057894
All the pro-US zealots might well go on about how shit "slav" stuff is, but you cant deny, they make some beautiful-looking machines.
>>30061409
>Nice projection. They aren't the ones accruing gargantuan amounts of debt feeding the MIC and stringing bases around the likely adversary.
so youre denying that Russia is fighting proxy wars and that they actually want peace and not a war with the evil west?
>>30059990
>>Latvian War of Independence
>>Got their asses kicked by a force a fifth their size
>>Estonian War of Independence
>>Got their asses kicked by a coalition that was still a fifth their size
>>Lithuanian-Soviet War
>>Got their asses kicked by a force a fifth their size
>And now you are just making shit up. A quick perusal of wiki of the OOBs tells me you're full of shit.
this is actually kinda fun
>>30059119
Only left in the internal troops, thank to reforms.
>>30057894
I'm personally impressed by how they can just strip the patches and insignia off their uniform and walk into another country claiming that Russia owns it all the while claiming to have no affiliation to Russia.
>>30061446
>this is actually kinda fun
You do realize none of those wars had the Soviets fighting at a 5-1 advantage as the original quote said. Jesus you fail basic maths, what else?
>>30061438
>so youre denying that Russia is fighting proxy wars and that they actually want peace and not a war with the evil west?
The only proxy wars they fought have so far have been in their backyard. And I don't know what the fuck their leadership wants so don't ask me.
>>30061446
>Each front of Russian Civil War is a separate war
You are not this important, baltnigger.
>>30061203
>Norway
>non-cuck
lowest quality bait
>>30061508
>You do realize none of those wars had the Soviets fighting at a 5-1 advantage as the original quote said. Jesus you fail basic maths, what else?
I didnt care about the 5-1 quote, I cared about the how they came off implying that the Russians/Soviets whatever you wanna call them, didnt lose or they didnt care. Essentially denying defeat.
>The only proxy wars they fought have so far have been in their backyard
So why are they obsessed with going to war? Why agitate the US/NATO? Putting the future of your nation in danger for what?
nothing
fite me
>>30061515
Its more about Russia losing to lesser nations than the war itself, then claiming to be the baddest, toughest nation when they lost to upstart nations
Russian military parades are pretty impressive. That's it.
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
Their advertising budget.
>>30061536
>I didnt care about the 5-1 quote, I cared about the how they came off implying that the Russians/Soviets whatever you wanna call them, didnt lose or they didnt care. Essentially denying defeat.
Aside from failing basic maths you also fail reading comprehension. Or maybe you are actually too good at the latter and start seeing things(this is very good skill to cultivate in English lit. class but not so much when arguing over a Buryat throat-singing forum) others can't.
Again, show me a direct quote where I dismiss those defeats.
>So why are they obsessed with going to war? Why agitate the US/NATO? Putting the future of your nation in danger for what?
Agitate how? You're the ones going to their neighborhood stirring shit up in the first place for stupid (read: idealogical) reasons. What do you want them to do? Roll over like the rest?
>>30061536
>American on anyone else being obsessed with going to war
Apex kek.
>>30061552
Speaking of losing to lesser nations, how did that Vietnam thing turn out?
>>30061592
>Aside from failing basic maths you also fail reading comprehension. Or maybe you are actually too good at the latter and start seeing things(this is very good skill to cultivate in English lit. class but not so much when arguing over a Buryat throat-singing forum) others can't.
>Again, show me a direct quote where I dismiss those defeats.
Senpai im not talking about directly dismissing defeats, Im talking about acting like it never happened and brushing it aside, something slavaboos here do alot with these conflicts. I mean I understand why, defeats for the largest country in the world make a track record look bad.
>Agitate how?
invading countries next to our allies and having a tradition of being land grabbers and quick to go to war?
>You're the ones going to their neighborhood stirring shit up in the first place for stupid (read: idealogical) reasons
Because were still a superpower, and we have spheres of influence to protect. Russia is a 2nd rate regional power, their sphere of influence is Belarus, Kazakstan and part of Ukraine.
>>30061593
>Speaking of losing to lesser nations, how did that Vietnam thing turn out?
I dunno senpai, hows Afghanistan and Chechnya?
>>30061504
>claiming that Russia owns it all
They didn't. They were there to help facilitate a referendum regarding Crimea's status in an environment free from Kiev's intervention. In other words to help uphold the global order ushered in by the West in Kosovo. They're the good guys!
>>30061577
keked
The new Russian Army uniforms are pretty snazzy, thus continuing the ridiculous trend of American's opponents always looking more badass than us.
>>30057894
It's like a post-apocalypic future military. A mix of old reliable shit & new fancy shit. Warhammer 40k IG armies come to mind.
>>30061647
>Senpai im not talking about directly dismissing defeats, Im talking about acting like it never happened and brushing it aside,
Again, reading tea leaves. I'll have you know this slavaboo acknowledge the fact of those defeats- nobody in their right mind can deny them anyway especially with all these countries existing.
>defeats for the largest country in the world make a track record look bad.
On the contrary they show that this or that country is made of much sterner stuff than ordinary.
>invading countries next to our allies and having a tradition of being land grabbers and quick to go to war?
The former Warpact are not your allies. They merely see you as another sponsor power, as they have the Germans and Russians (alternatively) before.
>Because were still a superpower, and we have spheres of influence to protect.
Ironically, having that much outstanding security guarantees ties your back, limits your options and even allows the tail to wag the dog. If that's what being a superpower means, i don't think anyone sane would want that.
>>30061760
>I'll have you know this slavaboo acknowledge the fact of those defeats- nobody in their right mind can deny them anyway especially with all these countries existing.
thank you
>On the contrary they show that this or that country is made of much sterner stuff than ordinary.
Exactly, thats how i feel Russia should do. You can either do 2 things when you take consecutive L's: 1.) drink fermented potatoes and pretend it didnt happen or 2.) Embrace the loss and be proud that your people are still alive and around to fight another day (Polish mentality)
>The former Warpact are not your allies. They merely see you as another sponsor power, as they have the Germans and Russians (alternatively) before.
Sure some might view us as the lesser of two evils but i feel Poland and Hungary view us as a good insurance guarantee of sovereignty in case Russia arms up for Warsaw Pact 2.0, as a genuine ally who wont turn on them
>Ironically, having that much outstanding security guarantees ties your back, limits your options and even allows the tail to wag the dog. If that's what being a superpower means, i don't think anyone sane would want that.
Yeah thats a good point, but thats the way my government has been operating since the 40's, a little too late to abruptly stop
>>30057894
>What impresses you about the Russian military?
That brain dead slavs can find what end of the rifle bullets come out ofp
>>30058954
Should've gone through with SU37 instead of this
>>30061593
>America declares independence in 1776
>first loss is the Vietnam War, 199 years later
>RSFSR established in 1917
>loses multiple Baltic Independence Wars amid a civil war in 1918, first real war loss takes place 4 years after country is established
>Russian Federation established in 1991
>first loss takes place 3 years after country is established
did you ever hear the story about rocks and glass houses?
>>30059433
>listing wars where no shots were fired
>>30059656
Mention Afghanistan or Chechnya and enjoy waves of vatnik damage control and butthurt.
>>30059222
Congratulations, old meme is old. A plane designed from the 70s was shot down in the late 90s. Only after extensive foreign study was done, only after lazy flight planning was exploited.
"Guys, I found waldo!" how long does it take you to find waldo each time?
>>30061967
>first loss is the Vietnam War, 199 years later
War of 1812 was arguably our first loss even though we didn't surrender any territory.
>>30061988
You know what though? I guess its like the US and 4th of july for England. I dont know. I know they dont care, but its slightly annoying that we are so vocal about it. So you know what Serb-aboo? Enjoy the most significant moment in your countries history and celebrate it.
>>30059433
>claims civil wars as victories
>claims crushing rebellions as wars and victories
>claims a draw when your invasion was repelled
cherry picking as fuck, Pravda probably made this
>>30059433
>>30059990
I literally pulled those straight off wikipedia, complete with tl;dr'd results.
>>30059736
Being able to perform air show maneuvers is not a valid reason to sacrafice VLO.
That said the F-22 and F-35 can perform them through their control surfaces instead of ballistics.
>>30059433
>claims Hungarian and Czech rebellions as victories
>doesnt show rebellions where Russian rebels were crushed
Typical
>>30061342
>Polish-Soviet "War"
>Decisive Polish Victory
Wikipedia isn't the best example website to get your sources from. I still can't believe people believe this meme/myth that it was a war. We were in fact testing the military "might" of the Polish army and it ended in a Soviet victory if you idiots that we came back in 1939 and destroyed them in less than a month. You butthurt Poles need to remember that you were our bitch and still are kek.
>>30061987
>Afghanistan
As if you Yanks are any better.
>>30061988
It was shot down by a 1960s vintage system. The kind they made when stealth was just vaporware still.
>>30062055
>doesnt show rebellions where Russian rebels were crushed
It would've been terribly confusing if you included all peasant spats crushed. Do you credit it as a win(for the nobles) or lose(for the peasant) or maybe a draw for instance.
>>30062021
>complete with tl;dr'd results.
as shown above your summaries were wrong. Next time research your sources before posting your conclusions instead of doing the opposite and hoping nobody scrutinizes it.
>>30062105
>t. assmad bydlo
>testing their might, invading 2 decades later
>mfw
you're just upset all your allies are ours now
>>30062055
>claims Hungarian and Czech rebellions as victories
They were never part of the Soviet Union. That's why its called the Warsaw pact- its an alliance made up of socialist leaning countries that may or may not be puppet states of the principal sponsor state.
>>30062007
>claims civil wars as victories
I don't know about the rest but the Russian civil wars in the wake of the end of the Russian Empire were anything but civil(as in domestic, not polite).
>>30061967
>first loss is the Vietnam War
American "education".
>RSFSR
It's funny how you mention RSFSR, knowing how USA got BTFO by it in the Allied intervention.
>>30061974
As in which ones in particular?
>>30061987
Sorry, don't see any.
>>30062007
The US claims its Civil War as a victory. The US claims fucking Bluff War as a war and a victory. The US claims the result of its intervention in the Russian Civil War being "Indecisive" while in real life it got BTFO from the continent. The fucking pot calls the fucking kettle black.
>>30062021
>Each front of Russian Civil War is a separate war
You are not this important, baltnigger.
>>30062174
>It's funny how you mention RSFSR, knowing how USA got BTFO by it in the Allied intervention
the way you got btfo in 3 Baltic wars?
>>30062174
draws =/= losses, even your little graph shows that in the Russians favor. drawed in 1812, lost in 1975
>the shitheap of Russian track records
>>30060658
The PAK FA is held to a higher standard than the Su-35.
>>30062207
Where did I imply draws equal losses?
>drawed in 1812
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasi-War
>lost in 1975
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cloud's_War
>>30062299
>implying those are real wars
lel if those are real wars then the USSR didn't win a real war till 1945
>>30062319
>Damage control intensifies
The US claims them to be real wars, your argument is invalid.
>>30062355
If you cherry pick our proxy literally who wars then we'll do the same
![rjo0619l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pOfoL1I.jpg "rjo0619l[1].jpg")
>>30062319
>>30062385
>L-lies, it doesn't count because I never heard of it before 15 minutes ago
Excessive damage control on your side, matey.
>then we'll do the same
>'ll
You already did by implying each front of Russian Civil War is a separate war.
>>30062403
exactly, our track record > yours, Boris
>>30062445
Your "track record" consists of isolating yourself on another continent behind two oceans and counting skirmishes with barefooted natives as real wars (but not really if you got BTFO) equal to marching victorious through the entire Europe after completely eliminating the enemy army.
>>30062003
Military loss, political victory.
>>30062003
Hardly a "Loss" when you're fighting a defensive war and drive out all the invaders, going as far as burning down one of THEIR capitols... IN A DEFENSIVE WAR.
>>30057894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhKcqJPsLd0
Their video work is top notch
>>30062385
This.
Vatshits constantly talk about how everything any western country does doesn't count because IT'S NOT A REAL FIGHT and other bullshit
>>30059433
this is phase 4 i believe.
>>30057894
Everything.
The Russian military is truly magnificent.
>>30064559
>The Russian military is truly magnificent at propaganda.
FTFY
>>30061988
LOL REKT!
What impresses me is the size of their drone force. They literally have one of the largest amount of drones in the world. Their drones are so advanced they can watch RT and shitpost on the internet.
Youd need 1 F-22 to take out the entire russian 4th gen fighter program (no , pakfa and similar arent even close to 5th gen)
>>30059222
>shooting down 1 F117A while the other 50 bombed your country back to stone age
>WE TOTALLY WON GUYS
lmao
>>30061651
>implying it wasn't a full invation
