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Favorite weapon?
Favorite Unite?
Who is the most /k/ and why is it the /k/reig?
Great Crusade when?
If /k/ was actually competent, the Catachan Jungle Fighters
Nothing says innawoods like a deathworld
>>29905437
While I don't think this is a very /k/ related thread, I have to say that those uniforms are cool as fuck.
>>29906683
How the fuck does a planet even support that much life? That is literally impossible
>read 40k books.
>wanted to play Kreig troops
> look up needed stuff to play
> everything is in pound sterling. Numbers needed to effectively play means prices equal new pistol or rifle.
Love Kreig looks, lore, and model quality. They might be expensive. But they'll last and can take a drop off the table top, no problem.
But I looked up other forces and fell in love with Armageddon Steel Legion. At least steel legion are still made out of pewter.
fav weapon=Flamer. in the 41 millennium, flame throwers are still highly effective.
FOR THE STEEL LEGION! FOR THE EMPERROR!
Tanith 1st and any of the Praetorian regiments. Orks are like more civilized Zulu after all.
I hate the clunky look of the bolters, but love the idea
>>29905437
tanith, tanith/scout lasgun
>>29907386
my dude, these are my two favorite regiments as well
>>29906756
guardsmen find a way
>>29905437
>Favorite weapon?
Grav weapons
>Favorite Unit?
SKITARII
The flesh is weak!
The good old Kantrael pattern lasgun. I love the look, like a blocky, mass-produced grimdark version of the M41 Pulse Rifle from Aliens.
The logistical advantages of the humble lasgun have kept them in service for millennia. I will always believe that the only reason they seem so weak is because 40k is a small-scale tactical game where ammunition is not a factor. At least in earlier fluff those fat bolter mags only held 20 bolts; they aren't shown carrying many spares. The Spess Mareens would need a fantastically efficient resupply system at all times to operate as depicted.
Meanwhile, I can shake my lasgun mag in the sun and keep on shooting.
>>29905437
>Basically mass produced humans born from something known as a vitae womb, something that the Imperium allows only because of how fucking hardcore Kriegers are
>Trained to be soldiers basically since the day they are born, constantly being hammered with knowledge that their ancestors committed a sin and the only way to atone is to die in service to the Emperor
>This creates unwavering, nearly inhuman soldiers that will gladly go into absolutely any battle without even a single hint of fear over death
>They're so fucking vicious that Commissars are needed, not to prevent desertion like with most units, but to reign them in when they're fighting too hard
The Death Korps is fucking brutal mang
>>29907781
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Story:Praise_the_Emperor_(and_Pass_the_Ammunition)
begginnign of the story is a planetary defense soldier camping out on a statue weeks into a chaos take over. Everyday she charges her lasgun mags with the sun and just fires at the hordes of zombies.
Lasgun is only weak compared to the extremes of the 40k universe. I read some where Its supposed to do more damage than an 7.62 but with no loss of velocity or drop. As a tool for endless war I love it.
>>29908009
From what I've heard it's comparable to a .50bmg
>>29907840
Wasn't there that book where they fought the necrons where it details they don't have names they have numbers and are just thrown against the enemy?
Kinda conflicts with the ultramarines omnibus where they're just nice but rather hardcore joes out fighting for the imperium.
>>29908088
Fluff is kinda weird and you should take all of it with a grain of salt.
Works like Dead Men Walking (the necron one) portray them as basically walking, talking rifles while other works make them very grim soldiers who are still ultimately human
>>29907318
>ASL
Mein neger
I run a special snowflake regiment that's basically the ASL mixed with the Tallarn Desert Raiders, but if I were forced to use a regular regiment it'd be the Steel Legion.
>>29908009
I remember reading that against unarmored targets, a lasgun could burn off limbs and disintegrate torsos. Unfortunately every kid on earth plays SM, so it's 3+ saves and mile-thick armor all day erryday.
>>29908115
I like the interpretation that all fluff is technically true-to-universe - somewhere, and from some perspective. What you're reading might be propaganda, old data, true of one legion/regiment/chapter but not another, legend, misunderstanding, anything. Sort of like how lasguns used to look like poncy eldar weapons until they got updated to cooler and later designs, and the universe self-corrected by making the old ribbed-pipe types the "Ryza pattern lasgun". See, it was never wrong. It was just never *comprehensive*.
>>29905437
Bolters
Techmarines
>>29908393
I like to think that the whole 40k universe is being told being told by a really old imperial guardsman. He can't remember everything, and what he does remember is quite foggy. Makes all the grimdark sort of make sense.
>>29908115
>>29908088
Dead men portrays them as suicidally depressed.
It does it very, very fucking well.
Hell, even the miner turned PDF turned faux-krieger who marches to his doom at then end clearly falls down a hole into a resigned, suicidal depression.
And no, "suicidal" doesn't mean "trying to kill yourself. It's simply indicative of a lack of will to live-and kriegers have no interest in living at all. They also show all the hallmarks of severely depressed individuals, right down to the total emotional shutdown in favor of focusing solely on concrete, here-and-now things that serves as a distraction.
>>29905535
I have to agree. I love W40k's style....but vaguely k-relates
Who decided a cable tang was a good idea?
>>29908620
Fuuuuuck wrong thread.
>>29908584
>when you're so emotionally destroyed by your upbringing, the hell you witness daily, and the fact that your only station in life is to die that all of the sudden falling in a grinding war of attrition against hellish beings is "ok"
Fucking christ. Can you imagine being another guard regiment and fighting alongside them?
Start up a random conversation at the staging area chow hall
>"Hey man what's your name? I'm joe shmoe from [Insert planet here] where you from?"
>"I am serial number 485326 from from infantry regiment primus, born of krieg."
>"You got a name?"
>"This soldier has no need for a name."
maybe I'm just sperging here... but that's fucking sad.
>>29908654
The most grimdark of the grimdark
>>29908654
Go ask on /tg/ for the Krieg medic screencap.
>>29908677
>>29908673 beat the both of us to posting it
>>29908654
Read the book, then look up studies on the severely depressed.
I've been there myself, and actually like to read about it. It actually helped me enjoy the book a lot more-I don't know if it was the authors intent, but they capture a side of depression, guilt, and self hate that most people can't grasp at all.
Fuck the "huur they're so badass" shit. They're not. They're thoroughly broken. However, even a broken knife can be made to be useful.
>>29908654
I roleplay one. It's less a random stream of numbers and more their I.D ended with the name of some poor sap that got killed during The Purge. To use a canon name, they'd be like 769355-637566-Keled.
It;s more a mixture of depression and some aspects of Borderline Personality Disorder. They're fucked up in the head before they get off Krieg, and who knows what kind of quirks they develop in the trenches. Not to mention most of your standard troopers come off Krieg at 14 able to kick the ass of most other Guardsmen.
>>29909476
Tha's different from what i've learned, Kreigers are shown to have no names, only using their guardsmen id as the only sort of name. Even fucking officers only get "names" like lieutenant alpha or major beta to tell whose in command of what unit.
Also, DKoK have the best mounts, ain't nobody gonna fuck with your cyborg roided out horse.
>>29906756
There is no planet anon, there is a guardsman formed out of huardsmen which themselves are formed out of guardsmen.
The guardsmen on that planet walk on guardsmen, breath guardsmen and when they go take a dump they go release some guardsmen from between their guardsmen.
That planet does not orbit around its star, it is on a patrol around it.
>>29910324
What is /k/s opinion on all guardsmen party?
http://www.theallguardsmenparty.com/index.html
>favourite unit
Plague marines, you know you're gonna have a bad time when these guys are around.
>Favourite weapon
I honestly never thought about it that much but I'm gonna have to go with the standard issue bolter. I just like the look of them. Nice and simple.
>>29905437
Toss up between chain fists and thunder hammers
Cypher and the Fallen.
>>29908393
>muh 3+ saves
>first rank fire second rank fire on 50 man blobs
>up to 150 shots fired
>50-75 hits average depending on concripts or infantry
>16,6-25 wounds on toughness 4
>power armour does away with 11-16,6
>more or less enough to kill off between half and an entire tactical squad in one turn
And the 50 conscripts who would land only 50 of their 150 shots, and cause only 16,6 wound of which a third would actually kill a space marines, just more or less earned half their points in one turn of shooting, because 50 of these fuckers will cost you 150 points opposed to 10 marines at 140 points. Conversely, those 10 marines will only kill 8,8 cronscripts of guardsmen on average with their 10 bolters. If you're feeling frisky, jam or a priest or commissar into the mess and they'll never run away.
Catachans are where it's at.
It's like you guys don't even like hardcore guerrilla warefare deep in the jungles.
>>29910387
All that's greatm but you'd have ti get through the rhino first.
And if you're opponent is footslogging his troops, you're already guaranteed to win becaus the enemy is clearly incompetent. Only Orks or post-faq Dark Eldar could lose that battle consistently.
>>29910470
*great
*to
*because
Christ that had a lot of errors that's what I get for not proofreading I guess
>>29905519
Yeah, but we're not, so the broken autism of the Krieg is probably the most /k/.
>>29910478
Happens to all of us occasionally.
Especially when you start writing, then stop and think of a proper word or go and check something out or just stop writing in general and then return few minutes later.
>>29910470
>rhinos
That's why you get cheap autocannons.
Honestly, the latest hurdle I have run into is people hiding their entire metal bawks army inside a shield generator, meaning you will have to penetrate AV 12, three times to get at what's inside.
>>29907318
Steel legion is great; they're just average guys defending their home planet, they have cool uniforms like krieg, and their niche is mechanized warfare.
>>29907318
Isn't the steel legion and death Corp 2 different regiments?
>>29910519
Not to mention any marine transport that is in risk of being shot by the enemy will most likely use it's smoke launchers, further reducing the chances of it being killed.
And the problem is two-fold. Firstly, the marines will at that point be at least 24” of your troops, which is really 18“ because of the 6" move.
Also, you're math is wrong. First rank firs second rank fire makes it so that each lasgun fires 1 extra shot. That means that, unless the entire blob is in rapid fire range, which is a whole different ball game, a unit of 50 conscripts will fire 100 shots, 33.33 of which will hit, 11.11 of which will wound, and 3.704 of which will kill a marine.
If you're getting 150 shots, that means the marines are garunteed to be in charge range, at which point it's game over man, game over.
The second part of the problem is that all that fire is wasted on tactical marines, allowing the real heavy hitters to come in and wipe you out.
>>29908584
>They also show all the hallmarks of severely depressed individuals, right down to the total emotional shutdown in favor of focusing solely on concrete, here-and-now things that serves as a distraction.
>TFW you know that feel
>>29907426
The idea is basically gyrojets
>>29910626
Yes.
>kriegers bayonet charge necrons to hold them long enough for allies to get a shot on them
>last act before dying is throwing their gun to an ally, weapons are more important than their lives
>Use the militia as meatshields because it is the most efficient
>ultimately lose cause they cant adapt to warfare, favoring their self destructive strategies
Dead Men Walking was such a good read, shows how fucked the Kriegers really are.
IIRC, the short story has all the weaker krieg trainees face the graduates in live combat?
>>29908088
Kriegers also promote based on age and how long you have remained alive, I remember a short story of a battle hardened Inquisitor and a lot of high ranking Officers from other Regiments freaking out when the Krieger Colonel was ordered to remove his mask, he was barely out of his teens.
>>29910324
The 'Major Alpha' thing is more of a title. The name scheme is directly from IA's Vraks series.
In Dead Men Walking, they directly refer to one man picking up the 'name' Major Alpha after the previous holder had died. They have I.D and a name chosen from a loyalist who died during the Civil War, both for ease of reference and to remind the men what they're dying for.
>>29911820
You got any sauce on that? I'd love to read it.
>>29911856
Source on the Major thing.
>>29910444
Reminder that, even for 40k, Catachans don't make sense as they'd be completely unadapted to their planet. They can't eat any of the native flora or fauna, have to deforest any area they live in, and their population only remains stable or growing because of massive immigration.
>>29911856
And source on the names.
IT IS THE BEIIIIHNBLEEEEHD
>Nobody has posted theunit with the biggest balls.
It's like you guys don't actually want to kill heretics and xenos shoulder to shoulder lined up in ranks.
Proof that volley fire is still effective and the emperor protects those in swag uniforms.
>>29910324
>major beta
>>29906683
>A garrison of 50 deci-hectillion guardsmen
PRAISE THE FUCKING EMPEROR
>this is how I Black Templars
>>29905437
>>>/tg/ is that way.
Also, implying Kreig is German in spess.
Death Korps is for edgy teenagers. Muh trenchcoats, muh gasmasks
>>29914547
They're WWI Western Europe with a focus on Germanic languages.
>>29914550
>Getting upset about people liking things.
>>29914475
Whats with the chains?
>>29914575
Black Templar thing. Something about never laying down your weapon till the mission is complete.
>>29914550
>edgy
Have you never sheen 40k? Literally fucking invented the word.
>>29914565
>focus on Germanic languages
beyond the name, how so?
>>29914646
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/G%C3%B6tterd%C3%A4mmerung_Howitzer
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Bruennhilde
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ragnarok
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blitzen
>>29905437
>Favorite weapon?
That I can carry? The Arch rifle fills my needs for pizzazz and lethality.
>Favorite Unite?
Adeptus Mechanicus
>Who is the most /k/ and why is it the /k/reig?
Who crafts these kreigers weapons along with almost every weapon in the imperium?
Answer: Ad Mech
>>29907656
A fellow cog of the glorious machine god!
>>29914814
Wrong pic for ad mech, but I do love their armors design.
>>29914641
>Sheen
>>29914550
Sounds like someones too poor to own Kreigers.
>>29914646
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Siegfried
And see attached image for Krieg "panzer" tanker.
>>29914550
>Complains about edge in 40k
Nigga, everything in 40k is stupidly over the top edgy to the point it's hilarious.
I mean these guys are the closest thing there is to comic relief for fucks sake
>Not wanting to crew a Manhattan-sized gothic cathedral as it flies through literal hell
Imperial Navy is where it's at.
>>29914872
I used to have this book, and I just now noticed the "Amerigo Wolverines", noted for overthrowing tyranny.
>>29908673
dropping this here cause i've not had a chance to post it since i found it and am unsure of it's size
>>29914907
Eh, the Orks have been flanderised too heavily. Their sense of humour has been successively stamped out in successive updates, they're now just green boulders.
>>29914923
>born live and die on an engine deck never to know the kiss of sunlight
Fuck that. It'd be like Das Boot but forever and with much more hellspawn and BLAM!!
>>29914973
Not necessarily, you could just be a rating recruited on some outer imperial world after your debtor sells you to the navy to settle the money you owe.
Space Wolves. Only because the Will King series was my first exposure to WH40k as a kid and Ragnar was a boss.
>>29914923
This is also acceptable, but only as an officer. Being enlisted on an imperial warship is a fate worse than death.
>>29907522
First and Only, baby!
>>29908673
I wish the books were actually as good as this.....
>>29914923
Christ I love the design of Imperial Navy ships. The best of them all.
>>29906756
>That is literally impossible
pfffffffffffffffff hahahahhahaahhahahahaha
>>29910626
Yeah, they have a sort of similar aesthetic with the masks and tubing but they're radically different in background, doctrine and ethos.
The Armageddon Steel Legion are mechanised infantry and come from a civilised, well-developed Hive World but tempered by their planet's industrially-wrecked ecosystem they're not soft or untried either. With their planet enduring two of the most galactically notorious wars of the past century they're confident, suffused with elan, and determined to prove themselves as worthy alongside the Imperium-renowned heroes and Imperium-reviled villains who've stood on their soil.
The Death Korps of Krieg are footslogger infantry for unsophisticated wars of bitter attrition. Their planet is also an ecological ruin but not by indusutrial development creating glorious machines for the Imperium's might but by a self-inflicted nuclear holocaust to stop vile rebellion for the Imperium's destruction. The planetary culture inscribes ancestral shame and original, unpardonable sin from birth and their commitment is born from a thoroughly conditioned self-loathing so intense that the only reason Kriegers don't commit mass-suicide is that they feel a quick death would be too good for themselves.
>>29908033
The ma deuce is literally a heavy stubber at str 4, so lasguns definitely aren't on that level.
That trailer. Heaven on Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo
When will we get our infinite war?
>>29912252
Problem is they share their shtick with the Praetorians
And I honestly have to go with the pith helmets.
>>29909476
>>29910324
Both could be true. People often forget that the Imperium's a big place and it's been around for a long, long time. High Command could have determined that a certain naming convention promoted efficiency and then revised their doctrine at a later date.
Personally I prefer >>29909476 though, taking on the name of someone who died in Krieg's first civil war just keeps hammering home their fundamental shame. Kriegers are not war-bots, they're penitential flagellants. They follow their orders not just because they're 10 Print 20 Goto 10 orders but because they're the means by which they atone for their hateful selves.
>>29914847
Nigga everyone's too poor to own Kriegers
Though I wouldn't be surprised if some neckbeard has a full regiment painted up somewhere that he salutes every day when he gets up.
>>29905437
I only like warhammer threads that are triggered by elf-posting.
>>29915400
Eh, desu the Praetorians were just a limited-edition novelty regiment anyway. They're literally just historical wargaming minatures with lasguns instead of rifles.
>>29915409
It sounds like being a cuck to excuse GW's high prices, but in fairness to them it helps to remember that they sell a miniatures hobby as much as if not more than a wargame. Units are expensive, but you're not meant to bash an entire unit together in an afternoon you're meant to gradually assemble it piece by painted piece.
>>29914949
There's also Rhodies/Aussies.
>>29906756
Everything is Guardsmen, anon. The sky is Guardsmen, the ground is Guardsmen, even the Guardsmen are Guardsmen. ESPECIALLY the Guardsmen.
>>29912252
you are thinking of praetorians bud.
>>29915448
I actually don't mind their prices, if they can turn a profit at the price more power to them.
What I'm ticked about corporate shuttering the battle bunkers.
I love the models and the game is decently entertaining, but having no place to actually play is balls.
>>29910324
>cloven hooves with dewclaws
>horse
That's some mutated as fuck deer bru.
>>29907840
Dude, they regularly kill the COMMISARS for cowardice. They are so goddamn loyal and hardcore that there has NEVER been any desertions or traitors from Kriegsmen. THEY ARE MORE LOYAL THAN THE SPACE MARINES, WHO ARE COMMONLY KNOWN AS "THE EMPEROR'S ANGELS!"
>>29908033
It is on the level of stubber aka assault rifle. But you can charge lasgun from sun or firepit. Ideal for conscripts.
>>29907522
Never understood the logic behind issuing a lasgun in a (modern doctrine) sniper capacity. Every time you take a shot it's not just loud, there's a literal laser show showing exactly where the shot came from.
>>29915387
Man, I love the textures on the Eldar units. It's the first time that I've seen waithbone look like, well, bone.
>>29915604
Wrong pic, ignore it
>>29915647
It's an entertaining contrast though.
>>29915618
Infra-red beams?
>>29915387
The literal rain of bodies at the end was a bit goofy but the dying Space Marine's smile of contentment as he remembered the Imperium's wrath was right on-target. All in all yeah, it's pretty metal.
>>29914923
Fuck being a rating on those ships though.
And fuck being on one of them when the Gellar field eventually fails when traveling through the warp in those ancient rust buckets.
>>29910444
>Catachans
>Fortunate Son in the distance
>>29915831
You mean It Aint Me by the Fortunate Sons?
Obligatory
>>29915857
So when Chaos fuck up a hive world, do the majority of the population become zombies?
>>29914923
>>29915422
Well, speaking literally they were Mordian models with swapped heads.
>>29915845
>>29915886
No, only when Papa Nurgle gets involved. Even then, it's only sometimes.
Catachans = Rambo in 'Nam
Cadians = Modern Warfare
Tallarn = Lawrence of Arabia / El Alamein mashup
Mordians = Blues'n'Twoes dress uniforms
Vostroyans = Prussian/Cossack mashup
Attilans = Mongols plus lasguns
Krieg = Western Front 1917
Praetorians = Powdered "Zulu" DVDs poured into a mould.
Tanith = Celtic woad plus lasguns.
Armageddon = this is the one that's actually stumped me?
>>29915911
Eh... it's vivid imagery to be sure but Warp Travel is not THAT tempermental. 40k OC (and hell, a lot of the official fluff) does tend to overexaggeration.
>>29915605
Stubbers are MGs, autoguns are rifles
As much as I hate non-/k/ related threads, this one is pretty good.
I especially like the stories and shit like >>29915911
Is there more?
>>29915987
Steel Legion are supposed to be the Wehrmacht.
>>29916034
Actually, the difference between a stubber and an autorifle is that autorifles, and all auto weapons, are caseless.
>>29915911
I don't even do WH40K but I know enough about its star travel system that the captain is making a huge mistake and jumps that long are hardly considered "average". It makes for nice pasta though.
>>29915987
>Praetorians = Powdered "Zulu" DVDs poured into a mould.
Love the Praetorians 2bh.
>>29915886
more like the reavers from the Firefly tv show
If you've ever seen the movie Event Horizon, it's basically a documentary of humanity doing a short test flight through the warp
without Gellar Fields
>>29916459
>If you've ever seen the movie Event Horizon, it's basically a documentary of humanity doing a short test flight through the warp
>without Gellar Fields
>>29916103
Huh, just looked it up on the Lexicanum and you're right
Shotgun/melta vets best vets btw
>>29910366
>The stench alone given off by Plague Marines is enough to incapacitate many enemy troops.
Shit son, that's hardcore
>there are people who don't like the Tau the most
>best regular rifle infantry
>best field grade officers
>actually use tactics
Fire warriors best warriors.
>>29915886
>>29916459
Suddenly exterminatus seems like a very reasonable reaction to warp
>>29914475
Totally an Elysian drop troop with that
bullpup
Vous avez toujours ces vieux casques merdiques? The French military is in serious need of an overhaul
>>29916645
Also the sjw faction
>>29914757
>>29914872
I wouldn't consider that to be a focus on Germanic languages. Seems more like a naming convention to me, but I accept your point.
>>29916724
>>29916645
Finally, someone gets it
>>29916645
They are the hope in the galaxy anyways. They just need more humans to the cause.
>>29916645
>>29916911
>>29916911
Do Tau actually have humans among their ranks?
I though they just used aliens
>>29916953
I mean technically yes but Gue'vesa lost the right to call themselves humans when they sided with filthy xenos
>>29916953
they love their Mon'Keigh waifu's real good
>>29908673
>You still have a few Krieg rations in your kit. You are saving them for the Feast of the Emperor's Ascension.
God fucking damnit man.
>>29916953
Yes brother. We do have plenty of humans in our ranks. Us tau want nothing more than the unification of all races in the galaxy so we can achieve peace. if you want to I can send you more info on how to defect and escape from your local commissar.
pls don't listen to him >>29916997 he's just jealous he has given up his identity and freedom to the so-called "emperor."
>>29917115
>That smug cunt at the top left
Also I'd rather pledge my allegiance to the emperor than have a giant logo stamped on my forehead.
>>29917115
Well, its been posted once and I will post it again.
>>29916953
I believe the word you are looking for is "Xenos"
>>29916103
The "caseless" thing isn't at all necessary. Bolters are supposed to be caseless but there are hundreds if not thousands of pieces of official artwork showing them spraying brass everywhere. Even the autogun diagrams on the Lexicanum page show clear extractor ports."Caselessness" was really just something dropped in there by writers who didn't really understand guns to sound futuristic.
>>29917115
Yes, join the nice blue aliens that will rip your balls off, not like it would make much difference am I right?
>>29916645
They're weeabo space-commies, complete with the "Greater Good" cause and brain washing the masses.
Literally, the Tau are controlled through pheromones given off by the etherals
>tfw no qt eldar gf
>>29917416
Let me clarify. An autoweapon is always a type of stubber, but a stubber is not always a type of autoweapon. Some people use them interchangeably, but there is a noticeable difference lorewise that doesn't stretch out too noticeably into crunch.
It's a case of lesser known lore being unused. That being said, autoweapons are SUPPOSED to be caseless. Is that always going to be the case? No. That's how 40k's lore goes.
>>29917636
This and their numbers are ridiculously tiny compared to the other factions. Only because it is 40k and all the other factions are fuckhuge though.
why is it that the smallest starship in the imperial navy is 1.5 kilometers long?
>>29916645
>>29916911
>>29917115
>>29917682
They also encompass an absolutely enormous range of guns from all sorts of makes and models. The RPGs group them all under Solid Projectile, which can mean anything from sawn-off shotguns to operator as fuck carbines with three magazines, a laser sight, and an underslung flamethrower for good measure.
It's kinda comforting knowing that somewhere in 40k, there's probably some poor sod gunning down heretics with his space AK.
>>29917731
Components aren't small, anon. Not every setting is going to have your Millenium Falcons or Normandys.
>>29917731
You think an empire with millions of planets and billions of soldiers is going to make small ships?
This ain't your reasonable sci-fi setting boy, this is 40k, everything is big here.
>>29915000
No one's gonna check those trips?
>>29915476
>I don't see anyone in shorts with a las-FAL
>>29917756
>The Year 40,000
>plugging Xeno with your trusty 1911
>the emperor protects, but JMB defends.
>>29914814
The Mechanicus probably is the most important factor to keeping the Imperium running, because without tech humanity is fucked.
Praise the Omnissiah!
>>29905437
Pic related. Keep the topic /k/ related at the slightest
>>29918307
Bushmen of Serica.
Combat shorts.
>>29914923
And entertain even the slim the chance of some event horizon/hellraiser shit happening mid transit?
Fuck that. I don't give a fuck how stable the gellar field supposedly is. Living your entire life with the threat of some warp fuckery instantly ruining everything sounds terrible. It would be bad enough just being on it as they ferry you to the next warzone.
Fuck. That.
>>29910626
On1 is ww1 germans in trenches.
The other is ww2 panzergrenadiers.
>>29918499
>Living your entire life with the threat of some warp fuckery instantly ruining everything
anon I . . . . I hate to break it to you but that's life in 40k for the average citizen. Even on planets.
I mean maybe on terra it isn't a thing, but the other 99% of human population centers are already literally under constant attacks from orc infestations, genestealers, and chaos anyway.
>>29910870
Read dead men walking. It's all there, anon. The guilt. The self hate channeled into a willingness to die. The inability to think about how you feel because you're too depressed.
It's fascinating how well the (mediocre) author did it.
>>29918401
it seems like something like a AN94 with it's slavG11 2shot recoilless burst would be incredibly useful in the grimdark future of the year 40,000. Orkz and Tau fukkin shits never signed the Hague convention,
which would be more effective? HESH or HEAT style smallarms ammunition? HESH seems extremely realizable in smallarm ammo. it's pretty much lobbing a chunk of C4 onto a TAUs faggy robot suit letting the spalling tear the Xeno a new asshole. minimization of HEAT, short of an STC to shit out the stuff, seems incredibly labor intensive, but a .30cal projectile going through 2/3" to 2" of armor is nothing to sneeze at.
>>29918575
Listen, there are a fuck ton of planets in the Milkyway. It would make for an extremely boring book to read about the agri-worlds that where the most exciting event is the yearly grox squealing contest. There are plenty of planets where nothing happens for hundreds of years, otherwise the Imperium would never be able to sustain itself. All I have to do is park my ass there and join the pdf, the local guard tithe or anything but the Imperial Navy.
>>29917858
so its like Texas?
>>29911386
Yes and no.
The ones found top be unsuitable face the ones who will serve.
Perform well, and you, too, will serve.
You are, however, badly outnumbered and poorly equipped. If you DO merit inclusion into the death corp, you will still never be in the breeding program.
the soldier followed has a slight flicker of Independence. Enough to ignore a pointless order in favor of following and killing a gene-stealer before it can find a way underground.
In krieger eyes, this is a massive failure.
>>29915845
>It's Just A Shot Away plays
>>29914475
Do you actually play Black Templars?
If so, my condolences.
>>29910665
If he's going to charge the blob, that means he gets to eat some serious Overwatch as well (admittedly, by your math it'd only wound a further ~1.852 space marines, but the psychological effect of having to face 100 Overwatch shots should not be underestimated. Bonus points : if he doesn't charge, you get to charge him!)
>>29916044
Come over to /tg/, hombre, we got more 40k than you can handle
>>29916645
A lot of folk don't like the Tau because they tend to have really broken units, and the players can be truly obnoxious (IIRC one guy who claimed to be a Tau player whined about a unit being ineffectual because it couldn't erase an entire enemy unit every single game turn by itself)
>implying Sly Marbo isn't most /k/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y
>>29918738
No, the undesirables are live fire practice. They're unusable in the Korps, so they're used by the Korps. It's pretty clear that extended periods of time on the radioactive surface of Krieg causes a lot of fucked up shit in the human body. They're not going to put forth resources to repair something they were going to use as a target.
TACTICAL
GENIUS
>>29917731
>>29920380
CREEEEEEEED
>>29919988
>That Wych
Emperor forgive me for having such heretical thoughts...
>>29915857
So if they going to exterminatus, whats the point of holding out?
>>29916645
>>29916645
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y
>>29916835
>>29916911
>>29917115
>>29905519
Fuck yeah catachans !
>>29914923
Why do almost all bigger Imperial ships have this 'bettering ram' style nose? Is it for ramming other ships?
>>29922330
This is a legitimate tactic used by the Imperial Navy.
Welcome to 40k
>>29922379
I figured...When throwing away thousands of Guards' lives just to get a few meters ahead on the battlefield...well, I guess ramming ships with other ships is nothing out of the ordinary.
Fave units are the Salamanders, they are the only Space Marines left, who actually do what Emperor has built them for, to protect the lives of his untold trillion subjects.
>>29922330
Here's why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w3XeHpsis
>>29916613
>>The stench alone given off by Plague Marines is enough to incapacitate many enemy troops.
>Shit son, that's hardcore
Its the same inside many a local gaming shop.
>>29922449
Yeah, why not ram when you can, huh? Why am I surprised, I don't know.
I'm not sure 'warping out' in a damaged ship is a good idea though. If the Geller Field goes down in the Warp....than I guess they just escaped from getting blown up in realspace to be demon chow in the Warp.
>>29922495
Considering the rites and rituals required to send a ship into the warp, I don't think the techpreists would warp out unless they were pretty sure it was safe or would rather take almost certain death over certain death.
>>29922515
>would rather take almost certain death over certain death.
Fair point...
I used wrong words, by 'warping out' I meant, using the warp to espace certain destruction....just to fall prey to demons in the Warp, should the Gellart Field fall cz of battle damage. But I can't fault the captain.
>>29922515
Do these rites and rituals done to pretty much everything (from cleaing and using your damn lasgun to entering the Warp) have ANY sort of proven effect? Or has humanity trully degraded to that level of superstition to think that their lasguns will only fire if they, pardon the expression, 'kiss the Machine Spirit's ass' everytime they do something?
>>29922481
>>29905437
I have a confession. I have never played or read anything 40k. What is a good vidya to start wth?
>>29922563
>ANY sort of proven effect
The Imperium's massive, non-stop technological and mechanical infrastructure hasn't broken down, if that's enough evidence for you.
>>29922578
I've never played any 40k vidya, but my friend swears by the Dawn of War games.
If you're looking for some reading, there are a lot of options, I recommend starting with the Horus Heresy books and branching out from there.
>>29922563
Humanity has lost so much knowledge about how things work that many things are magic and superstition to them, their rituals are the same as our drills and "pissing off the machine spirit" is just another way of saying you fucked up in maintenance or loading of the weapon and now it has jammed on you.
>>29922597
It's portrayed as being on the verge of it though, isn't it? With the knowledge for building most of the advanced ships, armor, and Titans being lost?
>>29922597
No, I meant, when I pick up an AK47 which is pretty much the Lasgun is in the 40k and fire it, I know it will work cz of it's mechanics. But I heard that even common guardsmand 'pray' to their Lasgun's Machine Spirit to make it work properly, instead of taking it apart and making sure everything functions as it should...
I guess Bolt guns are pretty much just like any other hand held weapons we field today, so they don't 'require' Machine Spirits to work...or do they?
>>29922440
Missing the best Space Marine chapter there friendo.
Okay fuckers, we know that the Gyrojet rounds were too expensive to make, so why don't we just make a bolter with 12 gauge slugs?
>>29922605
>It's portrayed as being on the verge of it though, isn't it?
The knowledge of how to build the most exotic and advanced weapons in the imperium, while a bad omen, isn't reflective of the entire mechanicus failing at their job for some reason. Technically the golden throne is on the verge of dying, tyranids are on the verge of overwhelming the galaxy, humanity is on the verge of spontaneously combusting etc.
>>29922624
See >>29922602
Nobody can say "hey, all mechanicus scriptures make perfect sense and work" or "all mechanicus scriptures are crazy mumbo jumbo" when you're talking about a massively convoluted techno-cult that spans an entire galaxy and is entrusted with the maintenance and production of pretty much every mechanical and technological product. There's no absolutes.
Even in the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium, the legacy of John Moses Browning endures.
>>29910487
What kind of bait is this?
You literally just stated the antithesis of what >>29910478 said.
Editing ~= Not editing
>>29922683
>2 feeding chains in 1 box of ammunition
WHAT KIND OF HERESY IS THIS?
>>29922681
Well machine spirits are apparently sudo a.i. so yes the prayers/drills do actually please it and said in its function. Such as cleaning the damn thing. The rest I'm not sure. Tldr; the machine spirit is sudo a.i. so it works.
>>29922739
I've always thought it's not so much the AI unless it's something that requires it like a tank or Titan. The concept is just drilled into people's heads so that all machinery has a spirit, even if there is no actual AI in it.
>>29922739
>machine spirits are pseudo AI
the "machine spirit" is a lot of things. Technically, is a giant sleeping god under the surface of mars which thinks it's every machine in the universe, though it's also a made up concept to explain why things don't function when you don't maintain them right, but it's also the literal brains in missiles and basic cogitator's operating systems.
No absolutes, as I have already said.
>>29914836
Ahahahahahaha
Can't be undone
>>29922739
Hm...maybe the Machine Spirit does have some merit, even today.
Whenever I vacuum my room, I always pull of my PC's sides and clear out the dust...i wonder if that pleases my PC's Machine Spirit.
>>29922759
Well since the age of strife AI got banned cause it wanted to end humanity. It's a very rudimentary intelligence. It's the year 40000. AI is a technology so integrated that is like making the wheel for us. The proof is in the mechanincus makeing technology that they don't understand be can also make in huge quantities, relatively speaking. IE Titans plasma weapons and Adeptus custodes.
>>29922780
You know it does.
>>29922780
Does your PC run better after you clean it out?
If yes, machine spirit is happy, and therein praised.
If no, machine spirit is indifferent, and assuming it is not running poorly, you have maintained its livelyhood, and therein praised it.
>>29915387
So like I barely know a thing about this whole 40k shit. Just scrolling around you know....
But my hairs been getting all static reading stuff and after this fucking trailer omg.
Bro mark my words:
Im gonna make an epic about this. Our parents can keep that starwars faggotry. We will have Infinite War.
Honor the emperor mothafuckas
>>29922879
Welcome to 40k.
>>29922879
Is this subtle bait?
>>29915583
What the fuck would you know about deer bru.
Didn't all those niggers you let overrun the last aryian stronghold buttfuckk all the wildlife into AIDS induced extinction?
You sir are the traitor in this universe.
>>29922330
Part ram, part heavy armor - the standard IN doctrine for fleet battles is a massed charge, with a torpedo volley to break open the enemy formation, then flying straight through that gap while engaging with both broadsides simultaneously at close range. So they put a heavily armroed prow on their capitals to ensure that that can weather the fire they're going to take on the way in.
I love that while we don't often have a 40k thread on /k/, its always super well received.
Praise the God-Emperor bros, the time to remove space kebab is nigh.
>>29922879
>>29922563
See, the thing about Machine Spirits is this. There is a LOT of archeo-tech in 40k. That archeo-tech is powerful. Now, that archeo-tech may or may not have 'Machine Spirits' that, if pissed off, might murder countless humans.
Not to mention that Machine Spirits have been actually found in everything from Titans to Power Armor. It's better not to piss off the thing you're using to hold off the countless waves of hungry lizard-roaches.
>>29922895
Ending title, part one:
The screen snapped to black in harmony with the 8th consecutive high decibel deepdrum over the rising orchestral whine.
A brief off pattern silence falls upon whoever still remains within the viewing vicinity.
They take this opportunity wipe away an ammassing mixture of tears, sweat, brain fluid, and blood that has been leaking from their eyeholes since the first visions of an intergallactic manmade holocaust befell the cutest little ewok-like civilization you've ever fucking seen.
Fuck them tho, their Rivendell-esque constructions made waste of the strategic promise embedded within the fertility of the newly conquered planet.
Its was a massacre that the audience hated. Hate-ED.
But now, frothing at the mouth in utter desperation to go home and literally skin their own pets for the heresy of their lazy occupation and unconcerned disservice to the emperor, the ninth beat booms.
With it, in standard nofrills white bold lettering against the spaceblack screen, a warning appears:
Welcome to 40k
Earth becomes a global playscape of ultrabrutality between those few who made it to the warning screen and everybody else, so many, so utterly dumbfounded at having absolutely no fucking clue whats going on.
Parts 2 and 3 are never made... there is no time to waste after all.
The reality is: Training has just begun, only 38k years to go.
Welcome to 40k
>>29923265
Fucking love chapter master Alfabusa!
Everything from the Alfa legion is bretty Gud.
>>29923265
What are you some kinda heretic?
Look at >>29923415
I worte that.
And one day, one of the few who were strong enough to make it through to the end is going to find out where you live, and will then kill your cat, or sister, or goldfish, or whatever... and wear it like a scarf. I bet that person might even be you.
Welcome to 40k
- Thats my new favorite saying btw. Wanna fight about it?
>>29918709
made of steers and queers?
>>29922578
Space Marine is one of the best 40k games
They really nailed what I envision the feeling of being a space marine is like. Just, fucking massive, heavy, brutal, unstoppable, and always completely outnumbered and shouldering the responsibility of saving the entire planet every goddamn time.
It's also deliciously violent
The Dawn of War series is a gold standard. DoW1 with expansions and the apocalypse mod is what I would suggest. Dow2 is more like a small scale skirmish game, a few heroes and 5 or 6 squads, maybe one tank. Basically macro scale vs micro scale. They're made by the same team that did Company of Heroes. (shout out to Blitzkrieg mod for CoH1 if you've never played it it's amazing.
Dow1 is like . . . massive . . . hundreds of units, platoons of tanks, massive and chaotic.
>>29923404
"Machine Spirits" are the computers inside them, not some spooky ghost.
AI has been banned for eons, though the ones in Titans are cutting that close.
>>29916692
The warp doesnt fuck around.
If the protective psychic shielding on your 5 thousand year old ship flicker for even a second, you arent just dead.
You are the gory screaming plaything for some kind of entity coalesced out of the psychic residue from the nightmares of the various races in the galaxy.
And there is no time in the warp, so you actually cant die, not really. Well your body can, your mind will just spend the rest of eternity being traded back and forth between these entities like a dog bone.
>>29922732
It could be two separate belts just stored in the same container side by side?
>>29905451
Braise Dog Emberor Geggonen :DDDDDDDD
>>29915387
This was really tame and pretty shit
>>29922515
>>29922533
>>29922563
>would rather face certain death than go into the warp without a gellar field and spend 10,000 years having demons magick new orifices onto your body to be probed with white hot spiked dildos.
ftfy
>>29905437
>Favorite weapon?
Though they made famous of late by the frenzied cultists of the Red Redemption, Eviscerators have in fact been found in armories across the galaxy for millennia. Much occasionally Eviscerators are fitted with a small flame-thrower called an Exterminator to aid in combat and add yet more to their mortifying reputation, as there is little one can do to avoid such a thing. The Eviscerator is most commonly found in the Imperium, among whose population it has come to symbolize religious wrath.
>Favorite Unite?
Flexibility and willingness to adapt to their situation represents the core of the Raptors’ combat doctrine. As they prepare to engage their opponents, these Space Marines are always careful to identify all of their assets and utilise them to the fullest means possible. These often include assets that are not identified within the constraints of the Codex Astartes. Even when operating well within the strictures of that tome, these Battle-Brothers may choose to take measures that others might consider dishonourable. For members of the Raptors Chapter, the only important standard is success. Honour and glory are noble notions, but a clear victory is worth far more than any amount of either. Most of the distinctive combat tactics that the Raptors employ are tied into this notion.
>Who is the most /k/ and why is it the /k/rieg?
Flash Gitz are an elite breed of Ork Nobz who are obsessed with their lovingly customised, ostentatiously polished and painted weapons known as Snazzguns that can potentially wipe out entire squads of infantry in a hail of fire. Unlike other Nobz, Flash Gitz prefer "more dakka" to being "stompier,"
The thing about machine spirits is that GW is a bit vague on the terminology. There's the uppercase 'Machine Spirit' which is a semi-biological AI that assists with the operation of particularly complex technology, and then there is the lowercase 'machine spirit' which AdMech theology states is the transcendent soul that inhabits a piece of technology. When a Guardsman invokes the machine spirit of his las gun he's usually referring to the latter, even Imps aren't so technologically illiterate that they need a computer to pull a trigger for them.
I really never understood why people resent e Adeptus Mechanicus's religion so much and are hellbent on belittling it at every turn. 40k is a universe with genetically-engineered warrior monks, cathedrals in space, world-bending psychic powers and literal hell dimensions populated by actual devils, Why can that all be accepted but needing to appease capricious gremlins to make technology efficient is beyond belief?
>>29922739
>sudo
The prayer to the omnissiah is just a mistranslated /etc/sudoers with a few typos. This makes sense.
>>29924708
especially considering there's an entire race who's weapons and gear only work because they believe they should work
>>29923958
Yes and no. We're talking about a setting where deamons can manifest and rape your soul.
They're program, but they're also so much more. There have been Land Raiders that have acted independent of orders, and there was a squad of Salamanders turned to goo into their plate by Dark Eldar, and the power armor drilled through the side of their fortress and massacred the Eldar lords.
Machine Spirits are fragments of code, through one way or another, that have managed some semblance of sapience. They're not quite A.I, but they're not quite programs. This is why you supplicate to the Machine Spirit, because you never know if the Baneblade is a gnarly cunt, or your lasgun might ND into someone's forehead while you're moving it, despite the safety or some shit.
>>29922440
It's a ref to when rams were the primary weapon system of Naval warfare. 40k is full of stuff like this.
It isn't about throwing away lives. It's about doing what they perceive as effective, and Imperial warships - like the triremes and such of old - are designed to be able to handle the stresses of such an impact. I mean, that's evident because of the armored prow.
>>29922563
WH40K role play rules. Techpriest can bless regular weapon. Blessed weapon do bonus damage vs daemons.
Therefore in WH40K rituals and rites have proven effect.
>>29925059
It's also a decent tactic in space if your armor holds up. Nothing ON your ship can deliver as much KE as the entire ship, and it's not like fire can spread through vacuum.
>>29922803
There is fully intelligent and aware AI in the most venerated of their tech (IE Titans and baneblades which have experienced episodes of autonomous action without their crews, even interacting with the driver/princeps when they are crewed).
>>29925395
decent and fun tactic yes, especially on smaller ships.
but massXvelocity squared
so if something were moving REALLY fast like a macro cannon or nova cannon and you can exceed the KE from your relatively slow ship easily.
Nothing ON your ship can deliver as much KE as the entire ship
>nothing in a gun can deliver as much KE as the entire gun when thrown.
>>29919383
Black Templar want to eat that overwatch. A 15 man crusader squad losing two men but gaining rage is SMASH AND FUCK levels of attacks. Throw in the Emp's Champ or Grimaldus and you get a monster mash of AP2 attacks or rerolls to hit with like 50 WS4 S4 attacks and a handful of AP4 S6 attacks mixed in depending on how the squad is armed.
Also the new formations that let you assault from deepstrike with Assault marines and Vanguard Vets with a handful of other special supporting bonuses pretty much make tying up entire armies doable now. What a time to be one of the Emperor's Angels of Death.
>>29915618
Lasers don't work that way. Despite their depiction in games and movies, a laser does not leave a glowing trail in the air. It's more like a really bright laser pointer. No sound or flash from the weapon, no light show, just a really bright little dot on the target.
