Sup /k/. I'm going to be getting my 8 week old GSD Battle Buddy in a couple weeks. When's the right time to take him innawoods and introduce him to guns?
Why would you subject a puppy to irreversible ear damage when you know that dogs have way better hearing than a human
>>29891315
This can be avoided
>>29891306
A lot of police / military start training dogs when they're like 16 weeks old. Sooner you can get them use to crap, better they'll be off.
>>29891306
Give your doggo ear protection
OP here, thanks for the dog ear pro advice. Now I don't have to make another AR upper.
>>29891306
That's a fine pupper you got there OP, is it your doggo?
Thinking about getting Luna here some earpro and taking her to the range with me. We also have a Husky but she is lazy as fuck and would just rather sleep most of the day.
>>29891532
>>29892319
How would you even pet this doggo? It has nothing available to pet
>>29892329
I like petting the armpits of puppers
It's really warm and fuzzy
>>29892329
I'd pat him on his head between earpro and eyepro
>>29892329
Chin scratches
>>29892329
His neck is still largely exposed, that's where the softest fur is.
>>29892329
>tfw no pupper to pet
>>29892045
10/10 doggo
Would play with ears
I say as son as you can, mines about to turn 1 year in June. I took mine to the range, it's outdoors, and just opened the windows in my truck to get used to the noise.
When you hike on a trail and turn around to go home say "come on lets go back" and see if he'll lead the way for fun..I did that with mine as sort of a joke/game and had no intention of it meaning anything until I got kinda lost once, my gps wasn't pinging, and I just said "hey buddy, lets head back" and he just turned around and started walking and I followed him. That's when after about a mile or so I started noticing things and found the trail. This was the actual pic I took cause I thought it was kinda cool.
>>29891315
Don't make my mistake op. I operate innawoods all the time with puppers. One time I saw a snek while operating, so I mag dumped 12 shots of 9 milluhmeetah from my glockteen. It was puppers first time hearing a gun. She wouldn't come near me for 20 min. I had to chase her up and down a canyon. She still won't go around guns.
Start with an air rifle, .22, etc etc. Reward your doggo after each shot.
Pic related it's puppers.
>>29892493
I got lost too once. I came to a fork in my return trip and couldn't remember which way. After thinking for a bit I started to go left. Puppers ran right. I called her, she wouldn't come, which is unusual for my pooch. Puppers finally came back with a bone she picked up from an elk carcass. She had carried that same bone for the first 3 miles of the hike, so I knew that she ran back to get it. She knew where she left it in the wilderness. I let puppers navigate from now on.
Fire crackers and the like might help to
The first 2 years should be strictly obedience and tracking. You can begin training immediately. However the younger a pup is sometimes the more difficult it is to get them to focus on the task at hand and training sessions should be short 5-10 min. Research schutzhund / IPO. Ill leave a link below. You can begin scent pad training / feeding sessions immediately. Focus on name recognition, focus and the basic commands first. Disclaimer I am not a fan of SEALs... however there is a book by the name of Trident k9 warriors, it goes into great detail on how they train their dogs. Expose the dog to different surfaces, heights and noises while he is young. This will allow for less distractions or hesitation when he is older.
I've trained 2 GSDs in IPO/schutzhund. Find a club in your area and attend a few meet ups. Make friends with the trainers/owners. Your first visit you will be absolutely blown away by the capabilities of these animals.
www schutzhund-training com
>>29893304
I've always wondered how these dogs can get so close to prey with a fat clumsy human stomping around next to them.
>>29893304
Thanks anon. When you say "strictly" how strict are we talking? That shit sounds hard/k/ore warrior dog. I still want a silly friendly dog.
>inb4 not oper8r
Bumping for /k/nowledge.
>>29892414
Dorm mil fag not even allowed to own feels bad man :(
My doggo does PSA which is sort of like a super white trash version of Schutzhund. Pic related.
If you want to train an operator dog you need to get them motherfuckers desensitized to shit. I mean if you really want a pipe hitting motherfucker type dog, you're going to spend a LOT of time working with it.
Find out what motivates the dog. High drive dogs are usually motivated by play, and often by food. Low prey drive dogs usually have a higher food drive. Find out what motivates your doggo.
Once you know, you need to desensitize the SHIT out of it. Take it innacity and every time it sees something new and strange, distract the FUCK out of it with food or a toy. Skateboard? Food. Loud ass bus? Food. Wheelchair, black people, kids, backfire, homeless person screaming, thunder, ANYTHING foreign or new - distract that fucker. Take them innacountry and show them cows, tractors, etc. Especially do this around other dogs.
Why? You're training the dog to look to you whenever it encounters something new, and desensitizing it. Fearful dogs are nervy, skittish, and "aggressive".
Do the same goddamn thing for gunshots. Take the dog two dozen feet or so away from a friend. Have the friend bang two 2x4s together. Distract that goddamn dog. Doggo won't care. Upgrade to .22 & etc.
The most important thing about dog training is timing. You want to intercede BEFORE the dog becomes frightened. And yes use earpro (you can go as ghetto as cotton balls in the ears it makes a difference). Go read a goddamn book and watch some youtubes about the four quadrants of dog behavior shaping and understand them.
My doggo was desensitized to gunshots in a training environment, where a fat dude would run at him in a bitesuit while firing off a pistol. Now whenever he hears gunshots he rushes towards them to see what the fuck is up. He is a good doggo and I love him and give him hugs and pats.
I have a friend that is ex army and now carries a rifle for the State Department. He has those Afghan dogs known as Koochee. Brought it back with him last time he was in country.
Dog comes with him to the range. Doesn't give a fuck about gun shots. It just sleeps under the Suburban or wanders off into the woods behind the range berm.
>>29891306
cute pupper m8
>>29892045
9/10 pupper, would boop his snoots and boggle is noggle.
>>29895382
Thanks friendo. Guide dogs wear vests when they're out doing their job. I think some outdoor gear for my pup would have a similar effect.
>>29891306
Dogs just run away when you start shooting. That shit blows out human eardrums I can imagine what it does to a dog's sensitive ears.
I know this because my friend would bring his dog to the range and it would just sprint away yelping when he started shooting. It would basically hide until we stopped then come back later all startled.
Am I the only one here who trains his dog with blanks? It gets them used to the noise. Plus you can shoot it at them from a little distance away so they can get hurt and know about muzzle safety and stuff.
OP should train his dog to walk tactically between his legs.
>>29892549
you fired 12 shots
to kill 1 snake?
I wonder how you can train a dog to gunfire, mine run away and cower for 15 minutes if I slam a door too hard
pupper8ing pupperationally
>>29899342
How many did he eat?
>>29892414
Get a cat.
I have one and operate with her around the house,we specialize in laser pointer weapons.
>>29899351
Funny you ask, he ate a spent 7.62x39 casing once. Somehow by the grace of god he passed it though...
>>29899379
No, he ejected it
>>29899382
m'/k/ommando
>>29891532
http://www.amazon.com/Mutt-Muffs-DDR337-Hearing-Protection/dp/B002CZQ1TA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462901466&sr=8-1&keywords=dog+ear+protection
>>29899005
9 mil has been known to glance off snake bones
>>29893743
>It ain't me starts playing
>>29899005
>9mm
So this faggy little thing fell into my lap...do they have any use other than sounding the alarm?
>my 1st dog ever
>.5 chiuaua/.5 Jack Russel terrier
>16 weeks old
She seems cool so far. Quiet for a little shit...one thing I notice about her is her situational awareness; she studies & listens to what's going on around. Got her house broken within days, & is proficient with baeic commands (sit, lay down, come), but seems to struggle with "stay" & "heal"...but I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Is she ever going to be useful for anything? She seems small for waterfowl hunting, but what about rabbit hunting? Thoughts /k/?
>>29902034
Tracking
>>29902034
depends, is it a neurotic coward like a chihuahua or is it ballsy like a jack?
Either way you really need to stay on top of it's training or it will turn into an uncontrollable piece of shit as it gets older.
>>29902207
>it's
Don't put the apostrophe unless you mean "it is" or "it has."
Sorry for my autism.
>>29902276
Its not that big a deal bro
>>29902034
jacks and chis have decent noses, but nothing outstanding by dog standards. they do however have keen hearing and sharp eyesight, they hunt more by sight and sound then by smell.
If it's anything like the jack I had it's going to actively try to murder the shit out of anything roughly in it's weight class. Not bark or growl at, just murder. Foxes, raccoons, woodchucks, cats, rats, mice, skunks, rabbits, you name it. He did great with other dogs and kids, but everything else was fair game.
>>29892329
>big orange tag says do not pet
>anon wants to pet
This is how statistics happen
When training the fear of guns out of dogs we tie them to a tree and start blasting bird shot down range. This is what we have been doing for 60 some odd years at this facility. It's also the reason the hunting dogs we train are trained well enough to charge the owners 2,800 dollars for 2 weeks.
>>29899368
Laser pointers are good for debugging your immediate environment.
>lase cricket. Smart/k/at homes on laser dot, cricket annhilated. Crunch, crunch, omnomnom.
>>29902301
...
>:^O fucking smartass
>>29902313
Ha! She gets along well with dogs bigger than her, but my girl has some shitty little type of dog, & she just wants to destroy it. I feed birds on my upstairs balcony, & she stalks the hell out of the squirrels. As soon as she gets her Leptosporosis booster, I'm going to let her have at em'..
>>29902207
She seems to fear nothing but the vacuum cleaner. The only time she barks is a single bark when someone comes up the driveway, or when she has to go out. Other than that, I have get to see her triggered by anything.
So far, she's pretty chill.
>>29902155
...tips on training for that? The other anon said these go more on sight & sound...
...I've really got to research these things. 34 years old, & this is my first pet mammal ever...
>>29902657
Punishment and Reward
If you want an actual hunting dog you can't play house with it.
I'm not talking about going to town on it with a stick, but don't shy away from zapping it every time it does something wrong and giving it a treat every time it does something right. Don't be afraid to yell at it and don't be afraid to praise it. If someone thinks you're a bipolor fuck with the dog then you're doing it right.
Training a hunting dog isn't like training a horse. You don't have the options of Breaking it or Gentling it. You only have the option of making it work.
>>29902657
I'm the other annon, they do go mostly by sight, but any dog can be taught to track, just don't expect them to smell stuff the next county over like a bloodhoud. Teaching a terrier to hunt is easy, they are born knowing how to do that, and your dog seems to exhibit all the traits of a good working terrier. The trick is getting them to follow commands. It needs to know how to heel and you need to be able to call it off or give it commands mid chase if you want to take it hunting. If it doesn't obey your every command and you come across a skunk while hunting, you are going to have a bad time. And if you come across a porcupine or badger, you might not have a dog anymore.
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>>29903055
Thanks fellas...I'll post an update in a couple months :)
>>29903132
And to reiterate I'll leave you with this.
A hunting dog is not your pet or your friend. It's a tool that should both know it's place and know it's worth.
>>29891306
>>29892045
>>29892549
>>29893581
>>29895965
>>29899342
>>29902034
my battle pup
>>29903478
my pup cant eat rawhides. : (
I like a pupper in uniform
>>29903578
how come?
>>29903578
Mine can't either. She will just moisten it up for about 2 minutes then swallow it whole.
>>29892329
You don't know the awesomeness of a puppy's paw pads?
>>29903594
Some dogs get horrible gas from them.
>>29903594
he eats them too fast like this anons>>29903606 because hes a big fattie and has a hell of a time ejecting. real bones are much better. (thats his dirty ol couch. with him on it)
>>29903664
rofl, that picture is awesome.
>>29903683
lol, sneak up on him when hes like that and he doesnt move an inch except his tail starts wagging hard.
>>29902034
for future reference, "heal" is actually "heel"
>>29895382
is that suit made by adidas?
>>29903578
Lab pit mix?
>>29892045
How do you ever get anything done when you could be petting your dog and going "boing boing boing" to her ears?
>>29904031
his dad was a doberman/boxer mix and mom was a brown lab. his name is Leonidas loll
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>>29904153
I knew a Dobey/Lab mix once named Auger. Hell of an animal. Smart as a lab, beefy as a lab, quick as a Dobermann. Loved to play, lived to swim. But God damn if I could leash train him -- he just wanted to go wherever his nose took him. Walks were a physical ordeal.
My armored division "scrubs", I'm thinking about training her to carry a 120 mm smoothbore on her back. Any tips?
>>29904660
>>29904596
same with mine. he loves the water and being inna woods but hes not having a collar on him let alone a leash.
>>29897565
You are a goddamn idiot. I want to punch you in the face so hard right now. That could kill your dog you colossal faggot. And you said you actually hurt the dog? You are the one who should be getting shot. You don't deserve a dog and you definitely should not own a firearm. You are a stupid, stupid motherfucking double-nigger. Get cancer and die slow.
>>29904660
That enclosure seems tiny for her
As soon as you get their shots and vaccines then you're good to go. Train your dog to not eat other animal shit while your at it.
>>29892045
My puppies name is also luna :D
>>29891315
>doesn't know about bird dogs
Off yourself
>>29891306
>powerlifter
>martial artist
>range instructor
>10 year LEO
I just "AWWWWWWWE'D" out loud like an 8 year old girl.
Fuck you, OP
>>29897565
ITT Responsible pet owners
Related, my brother/roommate freuqeuntly has loud fucking parties at our place, and my dog is getting to old to deal with it and it makes him freak out. I want to get some dog ear muffs for him, you guys know which are the best?
>>29902034
>heal
Nigga u playing WoW with your dog?
>>29897565
You sir deserve to die a horrible death. Go die in a fire start.
>>29891306
here's my battle buddy.
>>29906351
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>>29908967
Fuck you stupid niggers. Shoot your dogs if you want, mine always know to stay clear.
>>29906432
MAXIMUM DAWWW
>>29904097
It is fairly difficult, but she doesn't like to be pet a whole lot. Likes to be close and watchful, rarely has a brief desire to be pet. Her ears are mondo fuzzy doe.
>>29892329
Just give it a noogie.
When did this whole pupper thing start? I don't remember this!
Now
>>29904765
He's fat and lazy, but he likes to play fetch. Hates loud noises, so I never bothered with guns around him.
Loves fetch, but once he starts getting tired he'll beg to go back inside so he can sprawl out on the kitchen floor on front of the air vent.
>>29909136
Like a damn fiddle.
>>29897565
kys so that your dog can go to a good home.
>>29910463
Sorry to say this, anon, but your dog isn't very operator.
>>29893581
what breed is that doggo? 10/10
Someone please post that screencap of a thread about a dominos pizza delivery dog and someone says whos a good dog and op responds with "i am"
>>29903930
...like I said, I'm new to this (but proly shoulda known better)...
