/K/ommandos...Do we still Garand?
I'm Air Force, and I want a m1, /k/ how do I get one...?
of course, this one is a service grade H&R I picked up several years ago for $600.
>>29851868
go through the CMP. You will have to submit a packet. I'll look and see if I can find the instructions.
found it.
Debating a garand or a nugget :(
>>29851992
Because of current ammo prices, common sense, your boner, and the sheer awesomeness of it...you need to choose the garand.
>>29851992
both
>>29850500
>Do we still Garand?
We never stopped
But which one first?
>>29852132
I am incredibly jelly.
>>29852133
Garand unless you have no monies
>>29851868
Print out the order form from the cmp's site. Fill it out and have it notarized at the base law office. Send the form in with a photocopy of your military ID (this is what qualifies you). Wait a few months and your garand will come in the mail to your personal address. I even got mine sent to the dorms on base
>>29852136
Get them while they're cheap! When the CMP sells out, expect at least a 25-50% jump in price. Same thing happened to both 1903's, 1917's and Carbines once the CMP gravy train cut off
>>29852187
This. Mosin prices will continue to increase but I can't imagine they'll go anywhere past like 400 for a nothingspecial 91/30
>>29852235
I imagine Mosins will go the way of the Arisaka in the next couple decades. Interest will dwindle as ammo dries up and prices will level off somewhere around $250. I think Garand's have a pretty good chance of staying relevant since 30-06 is such a heavily used calibre and has been for over 100 years in the US.
>>29852293
there werent tens of millions of arisakas made. plus on top of surplus ammo, theres a decent amount of commercial ammo made.
>mfw when PPU doesnt sell a 7.7 jap
>>29851978
The COP has been disbanded for like two years m8
>>29852333
PPU makes the case which hornady buys and loads under grafs branding. grafs also sells just the brass.
>>29852364
COGC
>>29852371
i know. id like to know the details of that deal, just for my own curiosity but i wish PPU sold it directly.
So a ccw license will work as a proof?
>>29852333
>import Arisaka w/ full Chysanthemum
noice
>>29852293
I don't see Mosin ammo drying up any time soon. Sure surplus is just barely trickling in, but new production stuff is all over. The Arisaka isn't a good example because they were never brought into the country like Mosins or Carcanos were. The vast majority of Arisakas came in as bring backs, not by the crate for the commercial market. The rest were dumped into Tokyo bay along with literal tons of ammunition.
>>29852402
Well, PPU runs uncommon ammo production only once a year. I guess for very low demand calibers just the brass would do, why waste space on the ammo line when other once a year cartridges like 7.5 swiss would sell better..
Goddamnit I want to order it now, I have to wait until the 16th until I have money...
How far do they check this Marksmanship Requirement? Could I get a friend to fill out the form ( http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/marksmanship.pdf ) as the RSO and they would take it?
Don't want to pay to go to a range (closest manned one is too far away) and I don't want to pay for a $100 CCW Class with constitutional carry on the docket for my state
>>29852293
depends on what happens with import bans and the war in the ukraine. if we go through a long enough dry spell the price might drop on 91/30s because nobody wants to pay for the ammo. if more ammo comes in, id expect the price of the rifles to keep going up until theyre maybe slightly cheaper than new production .308s.
of fucking course yes
>>29852187
Robert, pls stop hoarding those
>>29852554
They don't check. You could just have a friend fill it out.
It's not like there is a database of RSOs they can check with.
>>29852582
Well my thinking was that they'd be like "oh what range was it I want to double check?" Though looking at the signature area further your answer makes sense. Guess I just needed reassurance.
>>29852574
It's a fucking stripper clip fed Semi-Automatic
30 AUGHT FUCKINg SIX
SEMI-AUTO
.30-06
Do we still Garand?
do you even live a fucking life faggot?
>>29852598
>stripper clip
Is this next level or am I looking too deep into this?
>>29852636
well, the magazine is fed (and wont work without) a stripper clip. so hes right unless you wanna go full autismo
>>29852636
>>stripper clip
>Is this next level or am I looking too deep into this?
Your autism is showing faggot. anyone who gives a single fuck knows it's en bloc.
every other human, normies, ammofags, wehraboo, amrifat, etc... knows what the FUCK I meant
please go take your PM meds timmy. It's past your bedtime
What group should I join to get muh garand?
>>29852699
GCA, $25 a year and you get a sweet magazine 3 times a year. All you need is proof of marksmanship activity. Shoot a match or take a DNR Hunter safety course that has a live firing at the end of it.
>>29852598
>stripper clip
I think you meant en bloc clip, but yes garands are awesome. Now if you want a stripper clip fed semi auto rifle in a full size round I suggest an FN49
>>29852686
not that guy, but believe it or not 99% of people dont know the difference between a clip and a magazine. try to explain the difference between an en-bloc, magazine, and stripper clip and their heads might explode
>>29852725
i need one of these in my life.
>>29852674
unless this anon is on track and you somehow think WWII G.I.s were just dropping magazines willy-nilly, and thinking "yeah fuck that giant pack of battle ready ammo, and fuck that glorious PING!
I just gunna drop this fuctional component and hope to fuck that supply lines never break in war-fucked southern europe
In that case die in a crush-induced rhabadomylosis caused hepatic and renal shutdown. fuck you and good day
>>29852743
They're a lot heavier on the recoil than a garand, but still fun to take out and shoot. The corrosive 8mm surplus is more of a bitch to clean up compared to my mauser.
>>29852424
Yes that is what I used
>>29852774
nigger, what the fuck are you even trying to say?
>>29852793
yeah i could see how cleaning it could be a bitch. are they worth the extra couple hundred bucks over the hakim?
>>29852847
>nigger, what the fuck are you even trying to say?
allow me to break it down captain poop dick....
I excused my transgression "re: stripper clips != en-bloc" And then launched into some half drunk tirade.
gud 'nuf?
they are magazine fed in every technical respect,but nobody in fucking history ran around with piles of loaded garand mags. Gramps made it ping in the pacific using clips, I assure you that.
when it gets all semantic-fag autistic we can call belt-fed link-fed and shit gets devolved and dumb.
\tl:dr;td (too drunk)
Garands have magazines, they are loaded with en-bloc clips/
fuck sake, just buy the fucking thing already fecalfoamer. I got my 1903 and GarandM1 about ready to stick my dick into. What the fuck you working with faggot?
>>29851992
At this point, just get the garand
>>29851992
>Debating a garand or a nugget :(
Do the world a huge favor an hero.
fucking nugget?
u airight m8?
>>29852492
>I don't see Mosin ammo drying up any time soon
Nigga you blind as fuck.
Unless the Donald, then 54r is gonna be like 8mm mauser in a couple years
Dont know if i should garand or not . other projects on the block and it really doesnt excite me.
The donald is pur only hope.
Ill swallow my pride and make america great again.
>>29853341
>Dont know if i should garand or not . other projects on the block and it really doesnt excite me.
Unless you mean an unissued k98 or swiss 1911 and you seriously give fucks about match play, then you OWE it to yourself and to the land of freedom fries.... get the fucking garand
>>29851978
So a 03 FFL counts?
>>29850500
World War II era 1911s when?
>>29852847
Haven't fired a hakim, but at least aesthetically, yes
>>29850500
In Finland you can join the civilian marksman guild which is financially supported by the ministry of defense. I was wondering if the US gov supports similar programs and activities?
>>29854470
That's exactly what the CMP is.
>CMP
Thank you Teddy Roosevelt
>>29850500
>Civil Operators Gun Club is no more
Excuse me while I go weep.
>>29851992
>Debating a Yugo or a Cadillac
If you're that shit taste you don't deserve a Garand.
>>29854476
So that's why the seal seemed so official. It is.
Why don't more /k/ommandos join it then? Is it just the inherit distrust of federal government that keeps people away from it?
>>29852424
So will a C&R license, should you have one.
>Already have all the guns I have a real POU for
I don't really know if I should garand, but I probably won't for a while since I'm currently backing myself up with credit card debt buying ammo...
>>29852725
I am so sad that there are not more of these in existence. How much is a 49 going for these days, anyway?
>>29854510
Underageb& and poorfags.
>>29852847
>mfw an LGS has two Hakims, right around 600
They have layaway, too. Tempting as fuck, man.
>>29854510
As far as I understand, it's not so much something you join as something you take part in.
To get a rifle from the CMP, you have to meet a few requirements, like being a member of a CMP approved gun club, and having proof of firearms training (sign off from an RSO, CCW license, or even C&R license according to CMP's site).
And then it becomes more like a gun store.
>>29854568
I want something like that here. Our system is a bit different but it's all geared towards arming enough reservists who can be trusted so that even in a case of unlikely totally unexpected surprise attack and invasion we have enough men armed supporting their local communities while the rest of reserves are being armed and geared.
All your weapons however are bought using your own money. It will still be a year for me to get my license for a reservist rifle. A reservist rifle is a semiauto with larger magazine capacity than what is allowed in hunting rifles. Like Valmet RKs, Norincos, Russian made AKs and even ARs and such.Since your using your own money you get to choose your rifle and the caliber you prefer. Meaning that if you wish so you can go full /k/ommando ticktack -operator gearqueer.
>>29854681
Yeah, it really sounds like the Finnish program has the exact mission statement and means of distribution (you buy the weapon with your own money) as the CMP, the only difference is that you don't join the CMP itself, just the approved gun club.
Also, you sons of bitches can get modern rifles through it? Count your fucking lucky stars, Finnanon, because the most advanced rifles we Americans get is the Garand. The CMP deals exclusively in milsurp, and I guess no one wants to even try converting all those M14s and M16s into semiauto only.
>or they don't want us peasants having access to them
>>29854761
We get nothing "through" it but gear. All weapons are purchased from private shops or individuals. Sometimes you can get something cheap from the military but that's rare..
If you want to own an AK or an AR joining reservists or practical -club is mandatory in order to get you licence. Finland is already a Hillaryland you see actually so much that our military is starting to get pissed about us joining the EU that is constantly trying to push antigun laws that would seriously harm our reservists and make training them a practical impossibility due to financial cost of providing ever man their own rifle every time they wish to train and storage them afterwards.
It's far more practical to allow reservists own their own equipment than to store it for them. Even more practical if they will buy those weapons using their own money.
Fuck EU. Britbongs and Frenchies are going to take guns away from law-abiding citizen in order to stop terrorists. They created their own problems and can't seem to understand why.
>>29851868
Its easy for us milfags. Im chair force too and i had mine fedexed to base housing
>>29853445
Probably never if Hillary gets elected. They'll probably get melted down and sold to GM for scrap like the hundreds of thousands of Garands, Carbines, M14's and 1911's did back in the 1970's
Got my 308 special grade (about as un-garand of a garand they make, I guess) after 3 month wait.
Looks decent. Haven't shot it yet.
Wood looks unfinished for the most part. It's like they did a quick wipe with a rag slightly moistened with BLO and called it good.
Does anyone else here feel the need to refinish (or complete the finishing process) on CMP's new stocks?
>>29856085
>Does anyone else here feel the need to refinish (or complete the finishing process) on CMP's new stocks?
You DO need to finish them actually. They are stained with no oil on the new stocks. use a mix of 50/50 Tung oil and Mineral Spirits and scrub the mix into the stock. That stain can be very stubborn to penetrate through depending on how much was applied and how tight the grain of the wood is. If you want to be lazy, finish it with Danish oil.
OP here.
I should have clarified, but I was wondering if the group that a /K/ommando set up that could grant board users access to CMP Garands was still around?
I want to buy one
>>29858926
Ok. Saw the Civil Operators Gun Club on the list.
How Join?
>>29858926
Answered my own question. I was a member, but the CMP affiliation expired.
>>29859043
You could still place orders for a while after expiration. Mine didn't get caught until half a year after.
>>29859235
We're talking 3 years post-expiration now.
>>29859284
Yes I know, I was just saying that it took them awhile to catch it.
>>29852725
That a Belgian, Egyptian or Luxembourg contract?
>>29854543
I picked up my Luxembourg one for $800 at a local shop when I was stationed at Lejeune. Estate sales when retired Marines die are golden.
>>29860425
Egyptian, even has an Egyptian army unit disc on the stock
>>29854835
At least the military is on your side.
I think it's neat that Finland still has a tradition of a real civilian militia. AFAIK only Switzerland has something similar.
My best and favorite rifle is a Continuation War M39. When I took it apart to clean it I found a few evergreen needles under the barrel! Finland, IMO, is the only country that picked the right side during WWII. I'd love to visit someday.
>>29854540
>>29853394
I've been tempted to Garand, but honestly the ones I've handled don't excite me much. The grip is too thick and not that comfortable and the action feels like it could take a finger off.
On the other hand I'd like to do high-power shooting competition and the gun is so important that I need to know how it works and how to fix and maintain one.
It's just hard to justify the price when I can get a nice k98 or Swiss rifle for less. I'd more excited by the FN M1949--I'm a big fan of Dieudonné Saive, who did most of the work on my favorite pistol of all time (the Hi-Power).
>>29852133
The era of relatively cheap M1s is drawing to a close. In two years an M1 in any condition won't go for under $1000. Get one while you can.
>>29862427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2idYNKWGm4
>>29864978
/scribbles note
>>29854543
Last month I picked up an Egyptian for $525. Beautiful rifle but I haven't gotten to shoot it yet.
Okay I'm thinking I ought to get a CMP Garand while I still can.
Need some advice.
Should I get the Service Grade or pay more for the refurbished/rebarreled Special Grade? Is the wood on the Special Grade decent?
>>29864978
>>29864994
That video is pretty impressive. That is an awfully slick gun to watch in action.
>>29864978
