Unpopular Opinions Thread.
>Loaded chamber indicators are fucking retarded, just like "cocked" indicators
>Sigs are way overhyped
>People who don't know how to clean their guns or disassemble them, probably shouldn't own them.
>Revolvers for women are fucking stupid, it's like you want them to get raped when they can't find it in their purse/can't fucking shoot the goddamned thing.
>>29806321
Oh I almost forgot,
>Owning guns of only one caliber so you don't have to worry about buying more than one, is fucking retarded too. What if you can't find that caliber, but there's a shit ton of another common caliber?
I thought this was an unpopular opinion thread.
>>29806321
selling revolvers to women to prevent rape doesnt work, the rapist steals the purse and revolver. uses said revolver to rape and steal more guns. crime rates increase, women buy more guns.
im speaking in absurdities obviously, but arms dealers are the ones that turn tools into weapons
>>29806321
>op isn't a faggot
>>29806321
Most newer car owners dont know how to service their engine or do routine maint.
There is a profitable market, saddly, in gun cleaning service
Chamber indicators are a personal preffrence, like most features on a firearm , some people like them, others do not.
Ive never understood why firearms with a removeable safety are passed up at purchase because the gun had one.
A: dont use it , or B: remove it.
>>29806321
>Loaded chamber indicators are fucking retarded
Every time I pick up a firearm I check the firearm. I am the indicator
>Sigs are way overhyped
Glock master race
>People who dont know how to clean guns shouldnt own them
This one is a no shit. Shouldnt own a car if you dont know how to do basic things on it
>Purse carry
Thats just retarded for a multitude of reasons
>>29806321
>2016
>cleaning guns
I do it only when one has been exposed to salt water, otherwise I got better shit to do.
>>29806321
>Sigs are way overhyped
Anyone who says this has never shot a sig and bases their opinions soley because of shitposting on /k/
I'm genuinely surprised people here actually have strong opinions on the mk25
>>29806411
....
What a fucking idiot
There is no reason that stupid people should be allowed to own guns.
Somehow /k/ is against this.
It wasn't Bushmaster's fault this failed. It was the fucking idiots who didn't see it for the gem it was.
>>29806394
Most newer cars are harder to maintain too. Not necessarily cos muh plastic and muh computers. Just stuff like finding parts that don't cost a fortune from the dealer, or newer tech that's just harder to maintain. Like ford new philosophy of putting turbos in everything, what is this? Europe? Where is my American v8?
>>29806396
Also cars and driving are one of those things which everyone kinda has to do, but not many people want to. I love driving, even if I'm stuck in traffic I'll just crank steely Dan up. But most people don't care to drive, they just want to go places.
Most people should be taking public transport. Or maybe a large market of renting self driving cars.
>>29806447
>no reason
What about the second ammendment of the Constitution?
'Most' compact handguns lack the velocity needed to do the job
Not every rifle you pick up is a 1000yard rifle, nor do most people have the skill, patience or knolledge to go past 500.
Most off the rack ARs will not be 1moa or less.
Many people who carry a gun do not carry a medical kit
Open carry is cancer of gun rights, and fucking retarded
>>29806509
not an argument.
>>29806469
Stop posting that fucking image. Post a real ACR you fucking cunt.
>>29806537
original master race
>>29806469
>>29806537
>>29806559
We ACR/Unpopular Gun thread now?
>>29806529
Please go read.
America was founded on crazy gun toting rebels. If you are so opposed , move.
An argument was already made and put in to law , anon is simply citing it.
>>29806321
>I like .380 as a defensive round
>I prefer my reddot on my AR without a riser
>glawks "safe action" bull shit is retarded, and i think people that call it double-action are chromosome-deficient
>i would prefer my Rock Island 1911 to a Springfield 1911
>>29806348
you're assuming things left n right. A revolver could be just fine, it all depends on her training.
Female comedians are funnier than males
>>29806447
well at that rate, why even let people with low I.Q.s breed?
>>29806575
fuck off faggot
>>29806469
>>29806537
A meme to surpass Applebees
>>29806348
No actually it's the individual who turns the tool into a weapon you fuckwagon, half of the people who work in my store just want to sell shit to sell shit.
And you're really for someone who's never ever shot to just instantly carry a handgun with (probably) more recoil than they can manage?
>I bet you think .22 is a good defensive round too faggot.
>>29806321
>I like grip safeties.
>>29806610
Why let them live?
>>29806602
I hate you
>>29806618
As much as I like my bushmaster, it is pretty much a meme gun and only good for some plinking.
>>29806321
Meh, I like the fact that I can see the brass on my LCP and tell a round is in the chamber or see/feel the extractor protruding on my M9 or G21 to tell me the same. Doesn't hurt the functionality so I don't mind. All the rest I agree with.
>>29806645
Not the gun. The COD ACR pic and the guy sperging out over it. It's been in multiple threads this week with near identical posts.
>>29806602
That made me laugh.
>>29806578
not an argument.
>>29806678
You're not an argument
>>29806621
This isn't bad. What's bad is when some faggot says
>I love the 1911
>I love the XD/XDM
>Oh but I can't can't stand grip safety's.
As someone who works in a gunstore, yes this happens constantly.
>>29806703
fuck *safeties
>>29806678
There is literally no reasonable argument against people being allowed to own guns.
>>29806591
>Red dot
Do you mean your Co-witness
Absolute
Lower 1/3
None - High
None -low (or through rings/mount)
Or red dot solely as an optic no irons with a chin weld?
>>29806623
unfortunately, life is a right. Procreation, however, is not.
>>29806529
>>29806447
poor bait
>>29806678
Correct, as stated, its a citation
i see remedial US government has failed you
>>29806591
>I like .380 as a defensive round
Whatever you're comfortable with.
>I prefer my reddot on my AR without a riser
Good, I get tired of faggots buying risers instead of a fucking cantilever mount for scopes too.
>glawks "safe action" bull shit is retarded, and i think people that call it double-action are chromosome-deficient
They kind of are double action, but I can see what you mean.
>i would prefer my Rock Island 1911 to a Springfield 1911
You've never shot a TRP.
>>29806720
i have buis, and a riser for co-witness now. Before i got those i didnt have a my reddot on a riser n i kinda liked it more that way. My cheekbone fit perfectly with the stock for a solid weld and lined up a very repeatable sightpicture.
>>29806697
Not an argument.
>>29806718
not an argument.
People too stupid to use a gun don't have a reason for owning a gun, because they are too stupid to use it.
>>29806971
Not an argument
>>29807024
not an argument.
>>29807034
>not an argument
>>29806759
"Insults are the arguments of people who are wrong." Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>>29807047
>>not an argument.
>>29807070
n0T aN ArGUm3nT
>>29807089
This is
[ ] An argument [x] Not an argument.
>>29806990
That's not an argument.
>>29806321
all of these are p much accepted as true though...
except maybe the revolver thing. recommending a revolver can be reasonable if it's due to the simplicity of controls. The whole 'tiny revolver for a tiny girl' thing is just dumb though
>>29806411
Do you at least lube the critical parts once in a while?
>>29807117
uoʇ ɐu ɐɹƃnɯǝuʇ
>>29806497
I agree there's plenty of new things with cars that I don't even know about. But if you own one you should be able to do very basic maintenance on it and have an understanding of how your car works. I can't tell you how many people I know who wouldn't be able to tell you what the check oil light looks like.
>>29806515
Open carry is great for when you're in the woods not so great in the middle of downtown at the local burger shop. The reason I don't carry a medkit is it's too bulky on top of the gun already to have. Is there like an ultra basic med kit I should carry? Is there even a point of carrying one of those?
>our gun laws dont work
>we will lose our freedumbs inna few decades
>>29807201
Carry a basic medkit in your car.
After shooting a dindu, nothing looks better in court than trying to save him afterwards
>>29806703
I got an XD Mod 2 despite not liking grip safeties. I was surprised and like it better than my glock.
>>29806578
America was founded by rebels who also had no police force and had to deal with the Natives. Militias were needed to protect against general crime, Native attacks, insurrections by slaves or other crazy whitefolk, and attacks while traveling the distances between towns and frontier. Nowadays, you don't even really need guns for self-defense, although it helps. The second amendment was to ensure the possibility a militia could be formed; a militia is no longer necessary, not to mention impracticable. You don't truly 'need' guns, nor do you have right to them.
>>29807285
I think you are willing to overlook them, I'm talking about someone who notices it (after they've raved about it) and then instantly dismisses it, despite having loved it 2 seconds prior.
>>29807303
>you don't even really need guns for self-defense,
lmao stopped reading senpai
>>29807303
>You don't truly 'need' guns, nor do you have right to them.
Of course you have the right. It's right there in the Second Amendment: "The right to bear arms".
All the 2A does is give one good reason not to abridge the right. You can't talk about abriding a right unless you agree there's a right in the first place. And just because you rule out one reason to abridge it, that doesn't make all other reasons fair game.
The right exists, whether militias are needed or not. The government doesn't have the authority to abridge rights, without showing compelling public benefit and no less infringing solution possible. Deal with it.
>>29807168
Yea you ought have a general understanding of things you use. Cars computers whatever else.
>>29807490
You're ignoring the prefatory clause, "a well regulated militia..." the right to bear arms was for the state; the framers wanted to protect the states right to self-defense and ensure a militia could be raised if need be. If the framers intended to protect the right of the individual citizen to own guns, they would have expressly done so.
Of course, there's disagreement on the interpretation and I guess it's my own stupid fault for trying to argue my points on a board all about gun ownership
>>29807052
Quotes are not arguments.
>>29807604
>You're ignoring the prefatory clause, "a well regulated militia..."
you were saying?
>If the framers intended to protect the right of the individual citizen to own guns, they would have expressly done so.
they did expressly do so. thats what the 2nd amendment is, you retard.
>>29807666
nice trips
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with the graphic. a nominative absolute is the main subject of the sentence. You recognize them by adding conjunctions to them.
For example, "a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is the same as " *because* a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
i.e., the reason the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed is to have a well-regulated militia.
Seriously though, I know this is 4chan but you don't need to be so angry because some stranger disagrees with you
>>29807604
Stop ignoring the second part.
>"the right of the PEOPLE to bear arms shall not be infringed."
It doesn't say anything about only militia members being allowed guns.
Not even an American.
>>29807854
>a professor literally breaks it down into its most basic parts and spoonfeeds it to you
>you still manage to convince yourself that your correct
its too bad the supreme court hasnt repeatedly ruled that youre an idiot and the 2nd is an individual right or you might have to actually consider that youre wrong.... oh wait, thats exactly what they did.
>>29807925
O-ok.
>>29807934
Sad to see foreigners and gun grabbers who claim to be smarter than the average american, not understand the 2nd Amendment and would rather twist its meaning to their own views of cuckoldery.
>>29807934
The supreme court has only done so twice, in Heller and McDonald, but also has stated that it is not guaranteed in Cruiskshank and in Miller held that states could limit weapons that aren't related to militia regulation, so its not as if there isn't support for my side from the Supreme Court as well.
As for that professor, he completely ignores the nominative absolute even though he clearly labels it. Not sure what his deal is.
>>29807854
>having every citizen armed is the most perfect way to secure personal and national liberties
>So the government's not allowed to take guns away from the citizens
How is this so difficult for retards to understand? Because they jack themselves off to the idea that 4 men in black robes are all it takes to keep them free?
>>29807666
Satan wills the second amendment.
>>29808002
>t-the supreme court almost agreed with me 80 years ago during the prohibition era
>>29806411
>2016
>having access to unlimited information
>still being a moron
>>29808002
just shut the fuck up
posting this shit here is like going to /a/ and then posting in threads about how you don't like anime.
>>29808002
Oh i'm sorry I didn't know you were English professor
fuck off
>>29808054
The Supreme Court exactly agreed with me during the prohibition era; however, even though the bulk of Cruikshank was overruled by Heller, it is important to remember that Heller was a 5-4 decision. There is plenty of validity to my arguments, and it just goes to show that Heller and McDonald themselves may be overturned eventually. My point was, you said they have continually ruled against me, when the Court has really broken even on its position.
>>29808016
More guns means more deaths. Thats a fact
>>29808121
I know, it was stupid of me
>>29808145
I don't have to be an english prof to know what a nominative absolute is
>>29806321
>>People who don't know how to clean their guns or disassemble them, probably shouldn't own them.
how is that unpopular? doesn't seem to unreasonable
>>29808184
you're the kind of person who will have all the facts laying in front of them and you just continue to fucking argue because you think you know absolutely everything.
stop being so fucking stubborn and grow the fuck up
>>29808164
the current precedent completely disagrees with your opinion. thats all that matters unless you are planning to assassinate (and have the power to personally replace) supreme court justices
>>29808164
>More guns means more deaths. Thats a fact
>still spouting unbacked bullshit
try and find one piece of evidence that gun ownership has any affect on overall violent crime or murder rates
>>29806321
>Revolvers for women are fucking stupid, it's like you want them to get raped when they can't find it in their purse/can't fucking shoot the goddamned thing.
>holsters and women cannot be mixed, attempting to do so will create an atomic detonation
>>29808223
If anyone is stubborn, it is you. I've explained my reasoning and justified why it is valid, and yet you constantly insult me. Why? Because I disagree with you? You're so angry that someone you don't know doesn't buy into your belief? That's childish as all hell. YOU grow up.
>>29808164
Guns have been selling at record numbers in the US and gun homicides have continued to drop, get fucked faggot
>>29808269
You're going to make us kill you all in self-defense, aren't you?
>>29806621
>I shoot pistols like this.
>>29808164
The problem you seem to not understand is that there are no validity to your arguments, or else everyone would have already agreed with you and an argument nonexistant, except for the fact your argument is just retarded and everyone already knows it. You skip words and ignore commas so people remind you "Hey, you forgot that part of our 2nd Amendment that says: -the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It's pretty much classist to try to convince the majority population that they aren't "people" and that the population doesn't "need" this particular Right. The right is natural, god given, it doesn't recognize the word "needs" or "priveledge". Continue citing whatever out of your ass but its not changing the facts we already have written out for you buddy.
>>29807943
>>29808308
It's a fun way to shoot, anon.
>>29807070
>>>not an argument
>>29808268
OP here, that was not implied, but it does seem that way, a lot of females who don't want to be assed with carrying insist on a holster that CLIPS onto their pants without a belt.
I try to educate all newbies about carrying, but some are stuck on the idea that it's about convenience and not actually about properly concealing/defending themselves.
fuck I hate working with the public.
>>29808339
My dad was an old school combat vet. He taught us to shoot like this.
>.40 isn't as bad as /k/ makes it out to be
Not saying it's best, but it's nice to know that even when people have made a run on 9mm and .45 I have a gun I can find ammo for
>>29806469
>handled an ACR at a gun show once
>the safety was broken and swinging loosely
No thank you.
>Glocks in stock configuration have been surpassed by other designs, and "aftermarket" is a scam, rather than make features found in more recent designs standard
>>29807854
a "well regulated" militia is one that shows up with their own boots, guns, and ammo to kill an enemy foreign or domestic m8. Read the federalist papers, or just the 1903 militia act that quantifies the unorganized militia if you want to REEEEE about your personal wrong interpretation of basic sentence structure; guess no guns for women and boomers.
>>29807168
Oil change tech here.
Don't even get me started on the people who think the check engine light is the "change your oil" light.
Or worse, the fucking oil pressure warning light.
>>29806678
You're right, it's not a fucking argument, the Constitution is absolute.
>>29809185
I know right, giving women and niggers rights.
you shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun in a place that has a no guns policy. your literally arguing that it should be a right to disregard rights
>>29806321
Glock is literally the katana of guns and owning one makes you look just as bad.
inb4 b8, it's my honest opinion
>>29806497
>>29806394
Newer cars can be an absolute bitch to service without a hoist and the right tools these days, too. The plastic undertray is usually a cunt to remove, then the oil filter is either hidden behind a fuckton of obstacles or has a plastic housing that requires a special tool/27/32mm socket to unscrew.
Then you run into retarded design flaws like the Mazda BT50/Ford Bravo with diesel engines that you can't leave empty for more than 15 minutes or the oil drains from the variable oil pump, meaning it can't make oil pressure even if it's filled up half an hour later.
>>29808164
Wow, that sure is some nice empty conjecture there. It would be a shame if reality didn't reflect this.
>patches on your shit (range bags, hats, etc) are retarded and make your airshit-tier
>45ACP is still relevant as a defense round
>lights/lasers are useless on anything but HD/CC guns
>>29810495
Imo the right to self preservation supersedes the right to control who you let in to your venue but I would just err on the side of not attending places with no gun policies.
If unavoidable and
If it's mandated but unenforceable then suck my dick.
If it's mandated and enforced by men with guns then I can concede.
>>29810640
>Imo the right to self preservation supersedes the right to control who you let in
youve got plenty of right to not go there. if you dont feel safe there without a gun, then maybe you shouldnt be there because it isnt safe. theres also plenty of places where that simply isnt an option because physical location excludes it, like MRI machine rooms and the visitors visiting area inside of a prison and what not.
so tl:dr i think the right to control who you let in supersedes the right to carry, and its not affecting the right to self preservation since you are not forced to enter
It's retarded to have a self-built AR as a weapon you plan to bet your life on.
I've seen ARs fall the fuck apart during classes or at the range because their owners wanted to be cheap or a special snowflake by cobbling together their own shit. For a range toy it's fine I guess, for a serious fighting rifle you need to just bite the bullet and buy a qualty prebuilt.
>>29808164
Read
>http://www.claytoncramer.com/primary/primary.html
>http://www.constitution.org/mil/how2actv.htm
>http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/library/militia/2-1.html
They are still valid to this date.
>>29810737
If you acutally know what you're doing and have a good grasp on firearm mechanics then I'm sure building your own would be worth the effort.
It's like the difference between people ricing up their own car with junkyard turbos and a cheap ECU tune compared to a privately modded and tuned Formula D car that's reliably pumping out 600+ HP for hours at a time.
>>29806575
What scattergat is that?
BUIS are neat and all but a rifle with only a red dot is pure sex.
>>29807604
>mfw this asshole doesn't like bacon
>>29810737
>I don't even know how to use a screwdriver: The Post
Trigger safeties are hokey at best, and not even really a safety imo.
USPs and HKs in general are super overrated, and the only reason people sperg over them is because of video games.
The Sig SP2022 is one of the most underrated guns currently on the market. With the exception of a *slightly* worse trigger and ergos, they're basically just polymer framed 226s for literally half the price.
>>29807070
>>>/not an argument/
>>29806990
"Look how clever I am!"
>>29806618
>surpass Applebees
KEK!!!
>>29806321
>Kar 98k is the ugliest rifle on earth and the VZ-24 is superior
>Germans are Autists who can't make good weapons, MP5 was made by aliens.
>>29806431
Having owned one, they are worth maybe $600 for a P226. There is nothing to warrant a bigger price tag.
>>29808269
>trying to say an english professor is wrong about the subject he specializes in
>no i'm not stubborn
>I just know more
kill yourself
>>29807303
You say deal with natives like they were always the ones starting shit.
> you don't truly "need" guns, nor do you have any right to them.
Shall not be infringed, whore.
>>29810584
necessary sacrifices in the name of efficiency, now to find the designs that are simplified enough to still work on
>>29806321
>I like revolvers
>I like stockless shotguns and think they are fine for home defense
>Despite being a gearqueer, I think having a gun you can hit things with reliably, lots of ammo, and being in good shape in way more important than the latest gucci plate carrier
>I still prefer the feel of steel guns
> I listen to synth wave
>I drink my protein shakes during my workout not before or after
>I hate most anime
>I wish k would stop with the weird anime crap that is super cringeworthy
>I like battlefield hardline
>I feel like the only gun owner who isn't a giant try hard faggot or borderline psychopath
>I think the m1a is a fine rifle
>>29813708
forgot important one,
>I hate IPA's, I feel like the only person my age (early 20's) who hates IPA's
>>29807303
Pretty sure it was also so we could stand up to the government and physically disband it, then create a different one if we so choose. It gives muscle to the idea that the PEOPLE create the GOVERNMENT. We have the ultimate power, and you're jealous. Deal with that.
>>29813708
battlefield hardline LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>29808164
>More guns means more deaths. Thats a fact
Perhaps, but not that many more. Fully one third of all gun deaths (on average 21,000 annually) are suicide and the U.S. has suicide rates half or lesser capita eliminates suicide deaths from the equation.
So your left with 12,000 annual non suicide gun deaths, which make up .4% of the 2.5 million people who die every year in the U.S.
Pretty much every other cause of death the CDC tracks causes more deaths.
So, are your willing to eliminate an inumerated Constitiutional right of a tiny fraction of overall fatalities?
If so, you are arguing from a position of emotion, not logic.
>>29806515
A handgun is a great thing when you need to stop a threat, not necessarily kill a threat, if you have a gun chambered between .32 and .45 acp. A higher caliber round would kill somebody quickly though.
If you need to kill something you should probably carry a rifle or a shotgun.
Tl;dr if you need Jerome to stop beating you up, a handgun is fine. If you need to kill Jerome, a rifle is more suited for that.
>>29806321
.32 caliber automatics and revolvers are adequate for self defense, and actually have many advantages when compared to larger calibers.
>>29806321
>safeties are lawsuit prevention devices and are on guns specifically because a lawyer told the manufacturer to put a safety on it
>there's nothing wrong with aluminium and polymer guns covered in rails but overly tactical guns are fuck ugly
>fudd guns are the most aesthetically pleasing guns; a lever action rifle in a wood stock with a scope gets my motor running
>inline muzzle loaders are cool
If all the guns in the country vanished, suicide rates would plummet
>>29816820
More like rope sales would skyrocket.
>>29806338
Stockpiling multiple cartridges is annoying.
.223, 9mm, .308, 12 gauge, .22. Anything else is superfluous. I own lots of oddball guns, but buying/storing ammo for them is annoying as Hell.
>>29816820
Japan and South Korea have double the suicide rate of the United States and gun control that makes Great Britain look like Texas by comparison.
If you're worried about suicide, you should aurgue to increase mental health care and funding, not increase gun control.
>>29806321
People should have to pass a guns safety course before being allowed to buy them, like a drivers license.
Free though.
>>29816942
So maybe not stockpile 5000 rounds of 8mm mauser.
Maybe have a couple hundred rounds for a back up 9mm/40/45 or barrels for .357sig/10mm for compatible guns.
I should have elaborated on the faggot who's master plan is to have a pistol caliber carbine/pistol combo.
>but don't use the same mags.
>>29816820
>be me
>own a handgun
>it telepathically communicates to me to kill my self
Owning a gun makes suicide easier but it doesn't make the owner some how decide to an hero, if somebody is suicidaltL they'll kill themselves regardless of if they had a gat or not.
>>29816344
A mag dump to the chest won't kill someone? I think not.
>>29806515
>nor do most people have the skill, patience or knolledge to go past 200.
ftfy
>>29806321
>I like wood on guns so much I *almost* chose an inferior weapon just because it had wood
>>29811624
*a well regulated breakfast club
>>29818137
I am all for more regulation of guns, as long as it does not pose any significant barrier or cost to law abiding citizens. If I mention this opinion to any of my gun enthusiast friends their heads explode.
Requiring a license and registration does not stop millions of people from owning and operating vehicles. Sure it doesn't stop every unlicensed individual from driving, but it certainly does help.
>>29807303
>>29806602
That's funnier than anything a female comedian has ever said.
