I'll confess to being a flare gun fanboy. The different styles over the years fascinate me.
I found two pictures of what is supposed to be a Russian flare gun that converts to a single shot shotgun. I haven't been able to learn anything else about it.
Does anyone know what type of flare gun this is? And if it's available in the U.S.?
Pic 1 of 2.
Pic 2 of 2.
And general flare gun thread,I guess. I'll bump periodically with pictures for as long as the thread lives.
Here's my Polish flare pistol that I modified with an ACOG mount to mount to picatinny rails. I'll see if I have a pic of it in it's current condition, spray painted it tan to cover up the grey JB weld.
>>29789178
I cleaned up all the shit that was oozing down the sides after I took this pic, by the way. It's not as fugly as it looks there. It's in this one on my airshit rifle. Still gonna look for a close up.
There we go.
>>29789191
>inb4 the ATF decides you've made an SBS and shoots your dog
>>29789251
It's airshit in the pic, like I said, but considering that it is not classified as a pistol nor a rifle, and isn't chambered for any shotgun cartridge, they can sit on my dick and spin if they have an issue.
There's a reason I don't have any photos of it attached to real rifles though...
>>29789156
It's a Russian shotgun made from old flareguns, they're super cheap and popular with gangsters. They can be used either as flareguns or shotguns. Not at the same time.
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>>29789162
Also a fan of flare guns, but what would be the point of mounting a stock and elongated barrel on one?
>>29789724
That's the conversion to a shotgun.
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>>29789156
>flare gun fanboy
Translated: underage
>12 ga flaregun
12 gauge flares exist as do 12 gauge flareguns. The vast majority of flare guns are 26.5mm flareguns so you can put in an insert designed to fire 12ga flares and fire a 12gauge round out of them. Illegal SBS in its default configuration but still a shotgun
>>29789178
I like it,anon.
>>29790628
Your translation is a little off. I'm 46.
And it's not a conversion from 26.5 mm to 12 gauge flare,it's a conversion to a single shot shotgun. Thanks for the bump,though.
>>29791088
Where do you purchase a flare gun, as well as said conversion kit? Also, how much would that whole setup run for?
>>29791797
http://www.apexgunparts.com/flare-pistols/polish-flare-gun-soviet-era-26-5mm-blued-steel.html
http://www.budk.com/Sub-Caliber-Device-For-45LC-410-Ammo-27560
There's several different calibers available on bud k. You can buy the flare gun and insert for about $120.00
>>29792278
Thanks anon, you know if I'd need any registration stamp or shit like that?
>>29792291
You will not,because it has a rifled barrel. ATFE considers it to be you manufacturing a firearm, so as long as you're not prohibited from owning guns,you're good. The exception to that would be if you put a smoothbore barrel into it. At that point it's considered an sbs or DD.
I just stick with the .45lc/.22
>>29792291
The letter from ATFE is here.
http://runwaysubcal.com/
>>29789156
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>>29789156
Here is my Walther flare gun - a prewar model with steel frame and barrel. I picked up one of the .22 inserts years ago but never did buy the .410/.45 version.
What would be good for a first flare gun?
>>29796041
That's sexy as fuck.
I'm hoping to find one of these for less than the price of a car.
>>29796208
What are your plans? Just flares? Gow with whatever appeals to you.
Will you get an insert to use it as a pistol? Go with a steel one. The Polish ones are probably the cheapest,but some of the German and French ones have style.
Pic is a Polish one.
>>29789156
This one will be happening soon. I like the combination look of an older pistol,and the end of the barrel being reminiscent of a blunder buss.
Pic #1
>>29796764
Pic #2.
>>29789156
So what can you do with them? do you just go off into the middle of nowhere and shoot flares off for fun?
>>29796842
On the 4th of July, yes. But I take one camping with me. A couple flares for emergency signaling, and .45lc/.410 pdx shells in case of trouble coming into the campsite at night.
The .410 birdshot makes for a decent snake gun. But mostly it's just a back yard toy. One flare gun with 4 adapters can make for a fun afternoon.
>>29796989
>On the 4th of July, yes
>>29796589
More for a pistol
>>29797521
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=551102051
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=554438763
http://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-flare-gun-soviet-era-26-5mm-blued-steel.html
So, how lethal is a flare gun when shot at someone?
These are good for the .22 and 9 mm inserts.
http://www.keepshooting.com/h-k-flare-gun-26-5mm.html
>>29798906
It can kill as a flare gun. The flare can penetrate the interior doors of a house. It can kill harder firing a bullet.
>>29798910
>has been OOS for a very long time
>>29789156
That's just a shotgun.
Not a flaregun at all, although I'm unsure if they have 23mm flares.
It's a OФ-93 (RP-93) single shot in 23mm, same as the KS-23 shotgun.
Here's a little info on them, but you won't be finding one is the US, as it's a DD or SBS and can't be imported as it has no "sporting purpose".
http://topwar.ru/72492-specialnyy-23-mm-odnozaryadnyy-pistolet-tulyak.html
Tiny bump
>>29789342
left one is upside down but i like the idea
>>29798976
Thank you, anon. I appreciate it.
>>29789156
Could this be expanded to a launcher thread? I've been looking into picking up one of these for awhile. What sort of shells can I get for it?
>>29790628
>you've got to be underage to enjoy flareguns
You're one of the worst things about /k/
>>29800534
Sure.
Here's my Polish Wz 44 and Yugo M57 flare guns for the thread.
>>29796550
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5893060#img
doublebarrel Luftwaffe flaregun
>>29792810
Just so people know, CA considers those flare gun inserts illegal. They have them separately classified as 'destructive devices' in CA, because somehow flare gun crime was a big thing? I don't know, CA is fucking dildos and make anything fun illegal.
>>29796989
Also illegal in CA to fire off a flare even on the 4th without it being an emergency. Buddy fired one off on the fourth once in the middle of a bunch of fireworks going off and the cops came and started shaking people down looking for the flare gun.
I have a Geco 26.5mm flare gun with a .45/.410 insert. It's not the worst possible thing for a survival kit critter-getter or last-ditch pirate gun. It is hella slow to reload of course, you have to remove the insert and rod the barrel to remove the casing then replace the insert, load, lock, cock and fire. No sites means you're aiming instinctively, mine shoots fairly low. .410 pistol ammo packs a reasonable wallop, never tried .45 colt since it's expensive and accuracy is likely to be dildos for the tiny amount of rifling and no sites.
>>29801141
You need something like this.
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>>29801206
Where does one acquire a barrel sleeve with sights?
>>29802275
Ebay
look up chaszel
you can get a 6" or 10.5" blank for under $30
>>29792894
How to have the ATF rape you 101
>>29800667
http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/37_mm.html
I've got you, brother.
>>29800859
Very nice. I have one of the Polish ones. How's that Yugo?
>>29800959
That is fucking sexy. How involved is that export license? I've never ordered freedom from a gulag before.
>>29801056
>California
Every damn time.
>>29801141
That's an easy fix.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/FLARE-GUN-SIGHT-HK-CZ-POLISH-/111434862431
This is a Hebel. It werfs flares.
Also it came with a sleeve that lets you shoot 12mm shotshell (see pic related, the 12 gauge is for scale. It's like a shorter .410 - which would probably fit too).
Sights were sculpted on it out of epoxy by previous bubba owner. He used to shoot .45 calibers lead balls stuffed in .44 magnum shells with black powder.
And that's how he managed to have a barely legal "handgun" in France.
>>29805767
That's awesome. I wonder how many of those are sitting in drawers in Europe.
I like the look of it.
>>29802275
The red one I posted was from a guy on Etsy, of all places.
>It also comes in orange and black.
>Apparently etsy is spam, so you'll have to find it on your own.
>>29804922
The yugo is nice.
It's a little easier to load than the polish, since the mech isn't a part of the trigger like the polish.
>>29789342
Almost a swasticka... almost
>>29801156
>YOUCANTTRUSTTHEATF.jpg
>>29807680
I'll have to pick one up. Are they as overbuilt as the Polish ones?
>>29810808
Moreso. It's a beefy fucker.
Good luck finding them anymore though.
Seems the supply dried up, and all on the secondary market are way overpriced.
>Plus searching for "Yugo M57" will bring up their tokarev.
You'll have to specifically search "Yugo M57 flare gun" or similar.
They constantly reused designations.
Only gave $90 with the case, I've seen them regularly over $200 now.
>>29798976
>no sporting purpose
but the AR-7 and m6 scout and other survival firearms do? thats some bull. i know im preaching to the converted here but fuck.
>>29811024
>but the AR-7 and m6 scout and other survival firearms do?
Those are .22s, and the RP is definitely DD sized.
So that's part of it.
Those are also not imported, so sporting purpose doesn't apply.
It's a ridiculous double standard, but that's how it is.
>>29810938
I'll have to keep an eye out for one.
>>29789156
A picture of some DD inserts that American Specialty Ammo used to sell. I don't know if they still do.
