Capturing Area 51
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How many men with AR-15 would be required to take and hold Area 51 for long enough to determine its secrets? I think as few as 15 guys could do it.
>>29770137
They'd probably delight in the opportunity to try out their freaky and weird new weapons on you and your band of militiamen.
Well they use it for testing of experimental aircraft, so you'd have to deal with fighter jets and other stuff coming after you
>>29770172
They respond with pickup trucks not jets. I doubt they have pilots ready to go. The biggest issue to me is getting access to the elevator to get into the subterranean level. Shit probably has a rotating hallway like the federal reserve.
>>29770137
you wouldn't get within a mile without them knowing. they'd be ready
They have plans for people like you.
Area 51 security engineer here.
We are monitoring this thread. Dont be a fool. We know who you all are.
>>29770207
>an airforce base doesn't have the capability to scramble aircraft for its defense.
>>29770492
are you an ayyyyy?
>>29770492
Tell me who I am?
>>29770627
No, it doesn't work that way in the slightest. Area 51 doesn't even have the facilities to scramble aircraft.
Any air support would come from Nellis AFB.
>>29770665
>i know what area 51's capabilities are.
they have multiple runways and helicopters don't need runways. you have no fucking idea what they have sitting in those hangers or underground.
>>29770492
Hey can you tell us how that project about weaponizing otters is going?
What if you have support from aliens ?
>>29770492
gib barrel of liquid dmt.
What kind of secrets do you guys think are there?
>>29770692
Helicopters fine, they have Black Hawks patrolling the area, fighters not a chance in hell. No dispersals, no assigned wings, no armory, etc.
>>29770665
100 miles at 1500 mph, you really think they wouldn't be there before you even reached the bunker doors?
>>29770734
>No dispersals, no assigned wings, no armory, etc.
that are officially admitted to.
>>29770413
>>29770492
>>29770751
>>29770734
But there's a million videos of people practically wandering on to the base and getting within sight of the buildings before two wimpy suvs roll out to meet um. I think any decently organized group could take it, if only that it's 100% a fake target in the yer 2016
>>29770827
>There's plenty of videos of people getting within sight of the outlying buildings kilometres from the airbase
>>29770774
I don't think you understand, it's something physically present.
I'm not saying that they don't have security. I'm saying the airfield doesn't have the capability to scramble fighter aircraft. That's a very specific capability that only certain air bases have.
>>29770137
>15 men manage to sneak within line of sight of the airbase
>spotted immediately by lookouts in the tower with thermal cameras
>ten trucks full of armed and trained security roll out and surround the intruders
>followed by several helicopters
>while drones go up and search the rest of the area
Those 15 men would be found and captured of slaughtered like dogs by even slightly elevated base security.
No, 15 guys will not do it.
>>29770168
>Tfw you will never get shot by the futa ray gun
>>29770827
appropriate froce for appropriate threat.
you don't send f16s for 2 pot heads wandering around.
>15 guys
>AR-15's
>area 51
yeah, sure. it's a military installation and everything in it is top secret.
>no armory, no tanks
get fucking real
15 guys? Kiss your asses goodbye because those ayy lmaos will murder you all.
More like 150. That's to even begin trying.
>Tfw when the first testing of combat ready power armor is on OP and his drunk gang trying to storm area 51
>This whole thread
You guys are clearly asking for it
>>29770827
you have to drive 40 miles from the black mailbox to get to the airfield/hangers/bunker entrance. you are trying to tell me that someone walked that without getting caught?
>>29770867
Why live ;_;
>>29770858
really because i would think you just taxi a fighter out of the hanger and have it take off on the big fucking runway they have used to test fucking fighter planes and then have it land at nellis
>>29770492
I want to believe Area 51 is a US Government meme.
They purposely made it to troll public and their enemy.
Someone please translate this statement while i shoot my brains out for typing this
>>29770881
If they dont van us for the "how to kill an abrams" threads, why would they for this even more unrealistic hypothetical scenario?
>>29770916
An aircraft isn't kept in a hangar fuelled, armed and ready to launch.
>>29770926
did this guy just get taken over by ayyys mind control half way through typing his post?
dont listen to me i am a disinfo agent and i'm going to go on a vacation for a while. you probably wont hear from me don't worry i'll be back.
>>29770916
>really because i would think you just taxi a fighter out of the hanger
I don't think you quite fathom the amount of work it takes if you think a scramble is "taxiing out of the hanger"
>>29770940
You think we can get vanned for talking about raiding a black Mesa or UAC to opening the gates of hell and chaos?
>>29770950
at a normal airbase it isn't
>>29770957
i don't know shit about it. but you are saying it is impossible. I think that the fucking air force could figure it out.
>>29770898
I'll dig up the video later, they drove but yeah
I've always figured Groom Lake (Area 51) after the 70s is purely a place to dump goofballs to guard a whole lot of nothing.
>>29770916
Let me put it into perspective for you. The pyrotechnic storage area at Area 51 is almost four kilometres from the aircraft hangars.
>>29770137
>I think as few as 15 guys could do it.
They would fly a TR series craft over you and the field effects by themselves would kill you.
>>29770984
They have figured it out by not having it there. Why the hell would you waste space on having scramble facilities at a base for experimental aircraft?
>>29770953
Where you going? Something seems fishy here...
Excuse me I must go swimming 10 miles off shore with heavy weights , I'm training.
>>29770137
># required
all of them
>length of time
50 years
but might get opportunity to fuck an alien
>priceless
>>29771026
To test the scrambling abilities of said experimental craft. Duh.
Granted I believe Groom Lake is one big meme like this >>29770926 Anon said
Though in the theoretical situation that it isn't. OP you'll probably need the strength of a small army, a couple of AA batteries and bullshit luck.
>>29770137
>the site is over 1500 square miles (approximately 44 miles by 37 miles)
>take and HOLD it with 15 people
"no"
>b-but I meant take and hold the TS-SCI-level spoopy classified test facilities/I meant take and hold the maybe-there-maybe-not underground research labs!
Ok. Still no. 15 men couldn't hold a Burger King against every NEST team within 3000 miles much less all the security guards and active military in the area.
>>29771057
What if aliens are like hot? Like literally engineer for sex....those nerd are there for a reason.
Think about it.
>>29771061
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
>>29771010
>home to 736 of the 900-something (unclassified/public knowledge) nuclear detonations that have occurred on US soil
Gee I wonder...
>>29771128
What's that supposed to prove?
>>29771091
What if one guy enters with fake documents with the other 14 guys hidden in the back covered in space blankets? I dont think the guards are the problem, I think its moving your 3 dimensional people through 4 dimensional hallways. In order to move forward, you have to walk backward. Also the biometric magnetized doors.
>>29771136
>"hey their ammo bunker seems to be both extraordinarily large and unreasonably far away from everything important"
>"hey they blow up a LOT of nukes there, it would be a reasonable assumption they have live nukes there most of the time, making it quite reasonable"
>>29771010
and you are 100% positive they don't have another one underground beneath the hangers?
>>29771141
Hidden in the back of what?
I'm active duty and I regularly have to get my car searched going through the gates at Ft. Jackson, which only contains fire ants and miserable privates. Pretty sure they'd have a 100% mandatory vehicle search, and there's no way of overlooking 14 dudes hiding under sheets of shiny mylar no matter how fucking big the vehicle is.
>>29771148
No, that's not large or unreasonable.
I'm saying "You can't scramble something that has its ammunition half an hours tractor away"
>>29771155
Yes.
>>29771196
Ah. Guess I was following a different part of the argument. Apologies.
>>29771169
> Hey I got these 14 guys here. 8 are for eugenics research and 6 are for the ayys to eat.
> Hmm, ok carry on
>>29770137
>I think as few as 15 guys could do it.
you need at least 20 good men
>>29770877
>implying the military has possessed the ability manufacture anything on its own in the past 30 years
>>29770916
>really because i would think you just taxi a fighter out of the hanger
They don't even have the hangars capable of that installed there.
Look at this, this is what quick alert hangars look like. Top ones are RAF, bottom ones are USAF.
>>29771209
>b-but they ayys were teenage vegan hippie shits that got stoned while flying and crashed...PUT YOUR HANDS UP!
>>29771155
Yes. Just like I'm 100% positive they don't have one in/on/under the bulk fuel point.
>>29771205
then you are foolish. nothing is 100% certain.
>>29771236
Then I'm fairly sure you don't know the first thing about military installations then.
>>29770137
>15 people
are you fucking crazy
>>29771236
Your faggotry is 100% certain.
Also
>>29771246
>>29770172
Yeah, it's a fucking Air Force base. Cutting down the security forces or contractors is the easy part. Good luck taking out the alien tech based super plane.
>>29771230
neat. but you just need a fucking hanger to hide the plane and protect it from the elements. everything else is like it's just sitting outside. they can obviously get a plane from inside the hangers to the runway.
>>29771155
>GEE WHY DON'T THEY STORE AMMUNITION UNDER THE AIRCRAFT
It's still a military airbase. It's not fucking la-la land where they throw around extremely dangerous materials in extremely unsafe ways for absolutely zero reason.
>>29770137
Can we form an xcom to do such thing?
There is no Area 51. Everyone in this thread has not been flagged by the FBI.
>>29771268
there is a whole lot of under ground for them to have shit in it doesn't have to be directly under the planes nigger it could have a tunnel that leads off with a fucking rail track or road and they could bring shit from a safe distance to the hangers.
>>29771265
If you're having to move the aircraft manually to arm and fuel it, then you're not scrambling it.
guys, what if area 51 has functional f-35s so they don't need long runways.
If a foreign country wants to learn what's inside, what is the best way besides kidnap a worker and give him truth serum?
>>29771295
>underground
>safe distance
>ESPECIALLY when talking about volatile fuels and aircraft munitions
>"I have no idea how explosions propagate or why they're so much more dangerous in enclosed spaces"
"safe distance" would be several miles. Honestly, they probably *do* have tunnels, but they lead straight to a fucking munitions elevator in the depot, which is *4 fucking kilometers* away.
>>29771308
But they have long runways. Hell they land B52's there.
>>29771308
>functional f-35s
Area 51 has alien technology, not fucking miracles.
Kind of related question
Why hasn't the stealth-hawk been revealed yet?
We know the F35 exists
We know the LRSB will exist.
What's so special about this helicopter?
>>29771310
Or should we drop virus laden flash drives in the Area 51 parking lot?
t. Not Peoples ROC
>>29771310
Invade it with several divisions
>oh wait, nobody has that capability
Welp, guess they're fucked.
>>29771310
>If a foreign country wants to learn what's inside, what is the best way besides kidnap a worker and give him truth serum?
Good luck, the buses that take you to work after your ride on Janet Air have a strange device on them that fucks with memory formation. Most people dont even know what they worked on that day by the time they get home and you know what, its better that way.
>>29771332
Because under current "stealth" technology we can only make it look about the size of a Lakota on radar.
>6 twirling blades that are each ~15 feet long make for a BIG damned radar cross-section no matter what they're coated with
>who knew?
>>29771265
I don't need a hanger(*hangar). I need 20 good men.
>>29771301
>>29771359
>I need 20 good men
Too bad. All we have are 11 limp-wristed faggots and 3 stronk black womyn who don't need no man. This *is* the Air Force after all.
>>29770707
This. Email me some ultra pure experimental combat drugs and LSD
>>29770137
>take Area 51
>hold Area 51
>long enough to determine its secrets
>15 guys
You're a moron. 15 guys like you couldn't take and hold a McDonalds long enough to order a Happy Meal
>>29770873
>attacking a hardened military installation with AR-15s and improvised explosives doesn't work
the Provisional IRA want a word with you
>>29770665
>Implying they just won't scramble a squadron of Aurora fighters, Whisper Choppers and a single Ghoul to nuke the whole area if things go south.
Ignoring the fact that there's probably nothing there
And besides the treason/terrorism thing
And assuming you put the operation together without getting banned
And you don't get thermally identified and fried with lasers
you RPG and grenade the hangars and poison and snipe the personnel
Your army has something heavy enough to hold off the external response teams
You have enough operators to have a bloodbath down unnaground
You have enough explosives to bypass whatever security measures are in there
You survive whatever chemicals they release innatunnels
You discover the F-35D
It's covered in black radar absorbing material making it two times as stealthy, three times as expensive, and four times as glitchy
You discover the M1A3
Internal temperature is 150 degrees
They patched up the bottom to make it ied resistant but it can still be blown up by RPGs when dumb Saudis operate it
You wonder why you came
The aliens kill you and eat your soul
>>29771718
But this isn't the UK
>>29771337
How's the tinfoil market these days?
>>29770865
>Line of sight
Buddy they will have microwave and seismic sensors reading them way before anyone could see them.
You guys cannot into pidas
>>29770137
Hello Ayyy here. Area 51 has a huge underground complex with a variety of hidden ayy tech.
>>29774453
I knew it!
>>29772107
I kinda want a movie about a raid on Area 51
>>29771323
>>29770881
I cant stop laughing at that picture
>>29771262
even the Air Force knows that Security Forces are useless and they would never have them guarding a place like Area 51. They guard nukes in Minot because they are expendable and no one GAF about SF ASVAB waiver mouth breathers.
most of area 51 is just desert and sadness.
and you don't know you're on property until either black SUVs roll up or you get shot at.
all the fun shit is by one runway and I'd imagine it is heavily fucking guarded, like 3x fort knox.
also, even if you take the hangars and shit, they'd probably hole up unnaground and turn those tunnels into hamburger hill.
you'd at least need a tank and a chopper, and some blackwater kinda dudes to minimize what you need.
but even then, they might just call vandenburg or kirtland and have them shit bombs all over you.
>>29770827
There's also videos of MP's detaining people who try getting close and F-16's blasting Cessna's out of the sky who violate A51's airspace.
>>29770950
Maybe at Area 51 they are, nobody knows for sure.
A51 is obviously where they keep the Belkan space magic tech for when shit goes down.
>>29775981
Sauce on 2nd
>>29771268
>It's not fucking la-la land where they throw around extremely dangerous materials in extremely unsafe ways for absolutely zero reason.
Tell that to the employees that got toxic waste poisoning from burning it in open pits. There were lawsuits.
>>29770950
>>29770964
Yes they are. Post 9-11 NORAD keeps "canopy ready" jets on tarmacs all over the country. Area 51 probably could, but that doesn't mean it does every day.
>>29770871
No, you send 4 F-35s and hope for no more than a 25% casualty rate.
>>29770137
considering if you somehow managed to actually get a foothold you'd be facing retaliation from the neveda National Guard in about half an hour and by extent to the entire US Armed forces if they fail. I doubt it would be possible without an absurdly high number.
Not to mention it's well within range of Nellis AFB
>>29770137
If there was aliens in Area 51, they would have moved them by now to another airbase that no-one knows about. Good luck finding nothing.
>>29775999
>Maybe this thing about Area 51 is true, but who fucking knows lol
well spent trips
>>29776067
only time an F-16 ever iced a Cessna was over Israel
>>29770492
But do you know why they wear the mask?
Also, what's their plans for things like pic related?
I'd never fly my model there of course, but it's not like it would be easy to shoot down.
>>29770707
Ill be happy with a few lbs. I can't handle the responsibility of a barrel
>>29771337
But, how do you know these things
>>29776401
>RC motor
How wasteful, you could take that off and use it as a glider and it would have much longer range.
>>29771337
Sounds like a great way for the driver to get lost and the workers to never finish projects
>>29771359
You mean 20 Spartan IIs
>>29776476
You're fucking retarded
Kys
>>29772107
We both know the only thing they have there is the new service pistol prototype. Which is a polymer M1935 with a can on it.
>>29770137
It would probably be gnarly. Im guessing the welcome committee is a deliberate downplay of force and if an actual threat approached hidden phalanx guns would pop up, like at the white house.
Or one of those spoopy directional microwave guns
>>29775372
Minot sucks dick. The hospital is 50s tech, nobody fucking smiles and the plants are made of ticks. Josh dumahels grandma lives there though
>>29770153
>>29770137
>Dress as a cactus.
>Begin operation by sneaking past the perimeter gates.
>Have thought of being seen by heat signature so equipped cactus costume with car windshields on all sides.
>Make way into base, nothing to see here folks, just a harmless cactus.
>Enter several buildings.
>Obtain intel.
>Vanish like a spiky ninja back into the desert.
It only takes one, OP.
You just need to be the best.
>>29776807
>dat tactical waddle
>>29776943
>The few.
>The proud.
>The Calorines.
>>29771295
If a base doesn't host QRF jets they won't have ammo lying around to get a plane up and flying in anything less than an hour if they are really switched on. I've worked on plenty of RAF bases that have no munitions on them at all because they don't host the aircraft that use them and will never need them. An experimental AFB like groom lake won't keep piles of bombs and missiles lying around just in case
>>29771718
The IRA never attacked and held a hardened military installation. They did shoot and scoot and attacked outposts or patrols.
>>29776931
best option right here
a bolder also works but you either gotta make a big costume that won't fit through doors or curl up into a ball.
For bonus disguising, make an expandable pot you can stand in while indoors to disguise yourself as a potted cactus. I swear every goddam waiting room in the southwest has one so you should fit right in.
>>29776931
>Meanwhile at the outer perimeter.
>"Is that a moving cactus?"
>'Stevens that's a fucking mirage, look at the reflection...'
>"I don't know man, holy shit, I know this guy. I had a buddy working back East where they saw this nut job running around with car windows."
>'Fuck, I remember hearing about that guy, should we go fuck him up?'
>"Nah, he's harmless, wait, where, oh shit, he got past the fence, this is fucking hilarious."
>Hours pass
>'Think he got killed?'
>"Pff, probably."
>'Wait, I think I see him...leaving?'
>"Shit, I think we were supposed to capture him."
I figure you'd need something a bit more potent than AR-15's to storm really any base.
To storm Ayylmao 51, I reckon you'd want mortars, and HMG's, and DMR's, and Specialized Anti-Tank Weaponry and SAM's (lots) and AFV's, and a whole fuck tonne of guys.
That being said, that's assuming you want to capture the base and not just park an artillery battery somewhere within range and drop 155 on them until they're gone forever.
>>29770137
>>29770137
>>29770137
1 man.
Work hard and get a job there.
>>29777189
USAF isn't RAF. We keep weapons at missile muns for training, storage and mobility that are hosted at any base with fighters or attack planes. Hell even lackland has missile muns.
>>29770877
>
>SIR! CONTACTS!
>Fire the main gun at them.
>SIR! THE GYRO GAUSS 120 would-
>FIRE.
>SIR!
>Armor and guns tested on /K/ommandos assaulting area 51
>Gyro-gauss recorded vaporizing a pickup truck full of tripfags with high speed cameras.
>Govt. heads onto /K/ and posts thread laughing at attack
>tripfagsBTFO.webm
>>29771332
>What's so special about this helicopter?
Could be a custom model with only a handful being manufactured for SOF?
I mean, not everything has to be mass produced! Not even average products!
