What will happens if a nation's leader knows next to nothing about warfare or Foreign Policy? Do Generals take over from there? Our president for example is the Commander and Chief of our Armed Forces. What happens if they don't really know how to properly allocate our military power based on our current foreign policy
>>29749418
This is why they have a shit ton of advisor's.
Does this really belong on k?
>>29749418
>What will happens if a nation's leader knows next to nothing about warfare or Foreign Policy?
when's the last time a president actually knew anything about warfare and foreign policy
>>29749449
this, you think Obama knew jack shit about foreign policy when he was elected?
>>29749470
Probably not since George Washington.
>>29749418
>What will happens if a nation's leader knows next to nothing about warfare or Foreign Policy?
You are pretty much describing Obama's policies towards the Middle East.
>>29749470
Eisenhower?
>>29749418
POL is over there.
Also, whatthefuck makes you think the others will do a better job?
>>29749418
>What will happens if a nation's leader knows next to nothing about warfare or Foreign Policy?
History.
>>29749418
The fuck would a general know about diplomacy?
>>29749525
Alot considering they are nothing more than politicians with war decorations.
>>29749525
"What? They have bigger dicks than us? BOMB THEM!"
>Implying Trump doesn't have the best foreign policy of all the candidates
>Trump/Webb 2016!
>>29749525
That a WMD will get you further than a sternly-worded press conference.
>>29749418
Exactly what happened with Bush and Cheney.
>>29749418
We get WW3 out of the way and depopulate the earth of all the trash in the process.
Nation leaders tend to not know much about anything besides "how to be elected".
>>29749496
Eisenhower was never president.
>>29749830
Is that what they teach in schools now?
>>29749872
Here, for all the pleb babbies who only know "history" from /pol/ or tumblr:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/presidents/dwightdeisenhower
>>29749830
The fuck? Is this some COD Black Ops meme?
>>29749418
>Implying Obama new anything useful.
>>29749830
President Number 34 from the years between 1953 and 1961 with Richard Nixon as his Vice. He succeeded Truman and was followed by Kennedy.
The following link may help but only goes to Clinton:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvy0wRLD5s8
>>29749872
>>29749906
>>29749923
>>29749968
Shut the FUCK up
>>29750044
Holy MAD batman!
This is now an Ike thread. MacArthur a shit.
>>29749470
August 9th, 1945.
>>29750602
Meh. I'll toss my vote for Dubya's dad. He flew a recon plane in the Pacific and shot down at least once.
>>29750044
>yfw
>>29749418
Its simple really, our Foreign policy = shit, utter failure and an abomination.
All we need to do is stop sending money to the M.E., stop giving money to israel and egypt and everyone else.
Bring the cia, the dea and all the other alphabet kids back to american soil and restrain them here.
Fix our own country internally and stop fuckign about with other countries affairs
>>29749418
m8, hardly any president was an expert on warfare and foreign policy. That's why they have advisors and secretary of _____
>>29749830
Is this a fracking joke?
>>29750044
Retard rage is the best rage
>>29749449
First post best post
Stop trying to shit on D. Trump
>>29749470
Kennedy
>>29749418
You mean "What if the next president is also Obama?", same as usual - they will sign off on whatever dumb ideas they get convinved for, the JointChiefs will bow nod and kissass until their pension arrives, and the grunts will go invade some Fuckshitistan again... don't worry, this is how it has always workedl
>mfw thinking FDR got voted in because he knew how to sort European war out, or that JFK thought about Cuba or SVN beyond latina and chink pussy...
>>29749830
Wow you're literally retarded
>>29749830
you what now...?
Is the a bizarre new form of bair?
A hitherto unknown meme of variable dankness?
>>29755040
This is now Alt-/k/ where Adlai Stevenson wins the 1952 election.
Maybe GCA68 never became a Bill..?
>>29749418
Whose foreign policy, op? The fuck-with-everyone, arm terrorists, perpetual warfare that only gets soldiers killed or the free trade with all, no entangling alliances policy?
If we are basing "foreign policy" on what has been going on for the last two presidencies, then I'd say it's time for a change.
>>29749418
unless the president is a military man and worked in intel or any intelligence agency I would be highly suspect of their ability to do foreign policy. Our president is really a figurehead albeit with the ablity to make executive orders, the real decisions are made by the specialist appointed by the president a good example is George h w bush while bush was an idiot his advisors were dumber then him and made even worse choices then him
>>29749418
You think Obama, a fucking lawyer knew anything about warfare? Or Reagan?
The job of POTUS is to surround himself with the best advisers, its his judgement based on advice from subject matter specialists that will determine a good leader.
And Trump has made more important decisions in one day of running a multi-billion empire than Obama or Reagan have combined, prior to becoming pres.
>>29755483
Like causing himself to lose all of his money multiple times
OP, you do know that trump graduated from a military academy right?
NYMA
>>29755535
>Like causing himself to lose all of his money multiple times
This is bait, of Trump's 500 businesses 4 have declared some form of Chapter 11 debt restructuring, only the most edgy dumbass redditkins believe Trump "lost all his money"
>>29756260
He doesn't lose his money, his investors do
He proposes retarded idea A, gets investors to chuck their money into it
He then pulls his money plus some of the investor money out and it fails
He is currently under investigation for falsified job placement data from his university
He is under investigation for making false claims about the status of one of his luxury condo projects to pull in more investors
When his Atlantic City casino failed he sued to have his name removed from the name of the property
>>29756466
and we see OP give deft shove of the goal post on the grounds that 2 of 500 business are engaged in a legal proceedings. This is the mind of the Cruzlim, small yet artful twisted.
>>29756489
Nobody knows what you're rambling about and the thread was shit to begin with.
>>29756466
Still better than Clinton or Sanders.
>>29749475
you think obama knows shit about foreign policy now
>>29756466
So, while he was in the finance, he made his company great by raping other companies and you don't want him as a president?
>>29756466
he's not being investigated over anything
He may be currently in a lawsuit in regards to those things, which he has addressed by saying he could settle them tomorrow, he just doesn't want to settle
>>29749418
Wanna see what happens when a president knows nothing about warfare or foreign policy? Go ahead and look at the last 7 years.
I have a theory about Trump. He was a liberal for just about his whole life. Then, in 2011, obama roasted him at White House Press Night. After that, Trump came out as Republican and said he was going to run in 2012. He didn't get to, so he's trying again now. I think it's all just some big revenge plot to get back at obama.
>>29756929
>He was a liberal for just about his whole life
Actually, he was a pretty staunch republican until sometime in the mid 80s.
>>29749538
George Carlin reference, nice.
>>29756803
I assume he does. He's a pretty smart guy, and he has to deal with it for like 12 hours a day
>>29756822
>73% of self-identified Trump supporters condone using rape as a weapon of war.
>>29757108
It might be the natural remedy for shell shock, get the evilness out of the body. It is something man has done since he left the cave and wanted somebody elses cave.
>>29757125
>Fuck! All this war has made me so evil! If only I could put the evilness into a bystander in order to keep killing effectively!
>>29749418
>What will happens if a nation's leader knows next to nothing about warfare or Foreign Policy?
In corner number one we have
Hillary Clinton
>famous for her failed foreign policy decisions in Libya and murder of ambassador stevens and sending brave american special forces men to their deaths.
>Completely and utterly incompetent in every aspect of policy and a corrupt witch.
Bernie Sanders
>Conscientious objector in Viet Nam
>Now wants to be commander in chief
>And allow the floodgates to be opened for third world criminal hordes a la carter administration and the cubans. This time with african and arab islamist infiltrators.
Ted Cruz
>literally another corrupt politician who is ineligible for the presidency but everyone just ignores that fact
>obama of the right
>wants to open floodgates as well
Donald Trump
>Extremely successful businessman who has actually had to survive and thrive in the real world
>Knows how to delegate foreign policy and tasks to the qualified experts instead of allowing rich campaign donators into positions of authority which they have no experience in
>Is running the most successful campaign and the cheapest campaign, and has the best foreign policy as far as not allowing foreign islamists and criminals into our great nation
So I ask who is the most qualified?
>>29757221
Probably Hillary, tbqh
>>29757276
are you serious?
If anything she has proven that she is incapable of proper foreign policy decisions.
Literally anyone would be better.
Have you ever heard of benghazi? Or the arms transfers she did to the middle eastern "moderates"
>>29757304
I think she's the most qualified of the 4, which is not saying much.
>>29757276
She is only were she is because she is a woman and it is the female vote that props her up. She is the most corrupt the world stage has seen in decades, at least in the West.
If you vote for her, she will lie, cheat and steal. You will not be able to trust her beyond the moment.
>>29757335
>Should be in prison for corruption
>Handily winning the Democrat nomination
And liberals wonder why moderates hate them
>>29757325
You're an idiot in that case.
>>29757221
Hillary is EASILY the most qualified candidate. She'll make a decent president, probably not as good as Obama though.
>>29757304
>benghazi
after literally years of investigation, the most she can be accused of so far is improperly storing her emails
>the arms transfers she did to the middle eastern "moderates"
sanctioned by the legislature and the president
>>29757335
Didn't say I was going to vote for her, but I am having a genuinely hard time deciding which of the four I hate the least.
>>29757353
sick argument, bro. your points have handily outmatched mine and the day is yours. i will take what you've said into account and shift my views accordingly.
>>29749872
>hurr my completely useless school knowledge
Okay, bud, I'm sitting here making six figures a year but you feel superior because you can find Poland on a fucking map
I'm still a hundred times more successful and intelligent than your fat ass, kek
>>29757374
kek
>>29757352
Funny isn't it?
>Proven to be the cause of gross breaches in national security, we have no idea what she was doing or hiding on her private server.
>Has said countless times that she 'Does not recall or can not remember' but only recently release a set of memoires.
>Most money taken from Asia, China and the Middle-East, campagin entirely payed for by them.
>Will, like most women, want completely 'security' over liberty.
>>29757376
Post proof or get the fuck out.
>>29757376
Nice bait, kiddo.
>>29757354
>>29757362
>>29757374
Contrarian troll, shill, or dumb? I can't tell anymore.
Its hilarious how americans masturbate over Checks and Balances but then a thread like this gets posted and it turns out they dont know shit about the foundations of their own country
The president is head of armed forces precisely so you never end up with the military suddenly running shit. He okays their plans and is never actually expected to run a fucking war. Hitler tried running a war all by himself and he fucked everything up disastrously and ended up having to btfo his stupid ass
>>29757362
>>29757354
>>29757325
>>29757276
What is going on.
Lord help us she is going to win.
Even /k/ likes shillary.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
We fucked lmao
>>29757395
I'd say you're just dumb.
>>29757395
Sorry, bro. The more attention I pay to politics, the harder it is to come down firmly on one side or the other politically. I think all the candidates are garbage, and Hillary is certainly not the most garbage.
>>29757407
We don't like her, she's just the least shitty of the four. Not all people have the same opinions as you, get over it you fucking child.
>>29757413
have you read her policy
"hillary clinton issues"
google even sets up a nice little chart for you
>>29757407
>Lord help us she is going to win.
Of course she is. The GOP isn't going to put forth anyone even remotely electable, and the result of this election will probably be that Hispanics vote D at the same rate as Blacks.
>>29757424
She's shitty on guns. I understand and fully disapprove of that. However, I don't think I'd vote Trump instead of her.
>>29757422
memes
plz stop basing your votes on memes and rumors when we have an internet which actually has official candidate websites with their actual stated positions
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
>>29757422
>She's the least shitty of the four
That's literally the opposite of true. It would only be true if she was running against Feinstein and two other Feinsteins.
>>29757435
>However, I don't think I'd vote Trump instead of her.
I would. She openly says she wants to be like Merkel and she's fucked Germany up pretty good.
>>29757449
You're such an autistic and obsessive little bitch that you base your vote on gun rights and gun rights alone. You are one sad miserable little shit.
>>29757446
Yet you will be voting for THE meme candidate. Sit down, child.
>>29757470
get off /k/ fag lmao
>>29757470
>I'm voting for a LITERAL criminal that should be indicted on federal corruption charges!
>She has experience!
Fucking up the relationship between us an every nation she's sent to is not the sort of "foreign policy experience" someone should brag about.
>You're just obsessive!!!!
You're a fucking idiot. You're voting in someone that literally swaggers around the fact that she can disobey the law designed to keep her accountable. Fuck. You.
>>29757470
This is embarrassing dude, stop.
Hillary supporters will be first to go, rest easy /k/omrades
>>29757486
>THE meme candidate.
Which one?
>>29757526
Is this a lovecraft reference?
>>29749418
implying obama had experience in warfare and foreign policy
>>29757435
Trump will get more of the beaner vote than any republican ever before
More of the black vote too
Who is going to vote for a woman?
>>29757561
imagine reading it in Ivan's voice
>>29757517
>>29757498
Great arguments one and all, but I'm pretty sure Hillary is best suited for the job.
>>29757514
>Hillary is a literal criminal
Oh really? How much time has she served for these alleged crimes? When was it that she was even found guilty of theservice alleged crimes? You're just a sucker who listened to too much Faux Noise and Rush Limpdick. Enjoy that indoctrination son, it's all you've got.
>>29749418
>Commander and Chief
>>29757352
don't start this right vs left bs, both sides are dirty as fuck
>>29749418
>What will happens if a nation's leader knows next to nothing about warfare or Foreign Policy?
We've had several presidents as examples. A president is only as good as his council.
>>29757622
>If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.
>>29757622
She already admitted to having the private server (not that it was ever in question)
Her only defense is basically "lol I didn't know"
Which isn't a defense to the charges.
There's no question that she's guilty.
Hillary did nothing criminal
If you're planning on voting for Trump you shouldn't even be allowed NEAR guns
>>29757221
>>literally another corrupt politician who is ineligible for the presidency but everyone just ignores that fact
Cruz has a reputation for being an ideological hardliner who is hated in washington because he fights unwinnable battles and won't play with the team. He's not corrupt, but he's still more controllable than trump because he can't finance his own campaign and has a lot of aligned interests with the republic party.
What really pisses me off about cruz is he should lose gracefully so he can run in a future election and not be that faggot. That or be on good terms with trump so he has a chance for a supreme court nomination. Instead he's performing acts of desperation like picking a female VP when he's way way way behind on delegates and trump won so hard last night that a brokered convention isn't likely anymore.
>>29757221
Except for the part where you're confusing Trump with Ross Perot, the rest is pretty spot on
>>29758017
>Hillary did nothing criminal
>If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.
Not only is what she doing here a Federal Felony, it also shows that SHE HAS KNOWLEDGE THAT WHAT SHE IS DOING IS A FEDERAL FELONY
>>29749525
Eisenhower was a better diplomat than general.
He knew it too, and so did everyone else.
That's why he was the Supreme Allied Commander. He helped all the generals get along and coordinate and make war plans while he oversaw allocation and logistics and settled disputes.
>>29757399
Dubs of truth
>>29757622
The literal only reason she hasn't been tried and sentenced to high treason at this point is because she is the ex First Lady, a US Senator, and is currently running for President while also being a total rich bitch.
If an average joe in a low level government position with no connections did so much as did one of the things she's been accused of, he would have been grabbed by the FBI and sent to jail within a year. She's getting away with manslaughter at best and third degree murder at worst because she's American Royalty.
Same reason movie stars get caught with enough cocaine to crash the street price and get off with 6 months of rehab.
>>29757221
>claiming the solution to immigration is building a wall across the entirety of the southern border
>claims another country will pay for it
>best foreign policy
Come on, now
>>29757566
All the women. Because they believe a lying, secretive, two-faced, bribed old bag is representative of their own Feminism.
>>29758289
>>29757571
Quoted wrong anon.
>>29758263
>Wants to build a wall
>Borders a failed state with active criminal enterprises (Not gangs) running villages and towns.
>Next generation of youth actively being raised in Narcoculture
>Mexican polititians in the pockets of drug cartels
Seriously, it will change the southern states overnight. I'm from the UK, live in Houston, if somebody told me just how fucked up Mexico is I would not believe you. Having lived here, it is amazing there is not more done to protect US citizens.
There are school busses of kids kidnapped and killed for ransom and blackmail. Wives, children and entire famlies are killed in the streets just to intimidate each other, not for any other reason other than to show other cartels they are more badass. You have an entire music industry given over to glorifying them, both in the US and Mexico.
How can you not want to protect yourself against that?
>>29758357
only way to end narco violence is to legalize drugs duh
anyone who thinks different is a total fucking idiot
>>29758466
I used to believe that until I realized just how stupid the majority of people are. How easy they are to market to and sell shit too.
So no, it is not a good idea to have large amounts of the population addicted to hard drugs. The cartels are not generally dealing much (at in value) in weed, they deal in coke and the processed crack, heroin and now chemist backed pharma-drugs, largely opiates.
>>29749459
Yes and no.
>>29758357
Globalists do not believe such a thing as "US citizens" even exists
Once the immigration has done its damage, "US citizen" won't have any meaning
It's nothing to do with cartels or anything like that, mexico is just a brown country.
Beheading & mass murders are in their blood, need to keep the non-white mestizo's out of America.
>>29758521
Fuck Globalists. Competition between nations is the only worthwhile endevour.
I'll be a US Citizen by the end of the year too.
>>29749470
G. H. W. Bush
>>29758492
>if you legalize meth everyone will do it!
Before you say hurrr not meth replace that with heroine, coke, etc. If its legal you won't see everyone in america suddenly railing up or injecting 24/7 around the watercooler at work. Also if US companies can sell it you bet that theyll put out better shit than the cartel.
>>29758642
>Better shit
So more addictive and stronger? Probably right.
>If you legalize it, you won't see increased use
Yes, yes you will. People will 'try it', stupid people who need to be told no. Again, this is hard drugs we mean, not weed and beer.
>America won't market the drugs if we legalize them.
Holy fucking shit are you retarded?
>>29749459
No, it's /pol/ leaking.
OP is talking about politics.
>>29758692
its just the price of freedom anon
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