When the inevitable collapse of society happens, you can't just chill out in suburbia, so where you gonna go /k/ommandos? Let's see some ideas!
>>29742983
>Pic related
Did three wolves blow your last house down?
Also, please nobody bring up burying a shipping container, they arent made for that, and we go through the same fucking pointless argument every time...
>>29742999
What if you made it from a stronger metal, like diamond?
>>29742983
I want to live here.za
>>29742992
It's suppose to be hidden dummy, if you hide it right then you ain't gotta make it outta concrete and titanium.
just get one of those big metal boxes that they ship things in cargo ships
put it in the forest
bury it in earth
let stuff grow on top
perfect heat isolation
>>29743011
See, this is the kind of shit we need to bring to the table. Kind of a shit idea, but it's an idea! Forward progression.
>>29743019
>>29742999 bruh...
>>29743017
With all due respect, you don't have to use a multicam bolt to have a camouflaged rifle.
Build a house out of brick, or concrete, then camo it. Hell you can put wood on the outside and moss on top.
>>29743028
Where tho? Is it better to be above ground or below ground ? Which state do you think would be best for a SHTF situation (climate, available water sources, ect)? Build a kind of make shift fence out of blackberry bushes (fucking nasty thorns) around the perimeter to further camo your house and disueade intruders from sniffing around your domicile? So many questions anon...
>>29742999
I've heard busses are good for burying.
>>29742999
Trips of tru->>29743019
Aw fuck it.
>>29743057
That's actually a really good idea! Especially if you could some how keep it somewhat below ground but still drivable (like a ramp that goes into a skinny dug out ditch and also one that you can drive out of). Thanks anon!
Gonna point out that for those that want to use the shipping containers for underground use.
Your gonna want to learn how to weld and start welding some metal ribcages on the frames of the container that way it has a "skeleton" frame for it so it doesn't bend or break easily.
Also keep in mind about the dangers of radon from the ground since it is constantly seeping up through the dirt soil and if uou have no ventilation system for radon or any detection your underground base will end up being filled with radon that can cause you severe cancer.
Helped a former boss of mine clear land and build a pole shed and cabin up near Canada, solar powered and has a well and septic tank.
Short term SHTF we'll meet up there and wait it out. Long term I guess we'd set up trail cams and fences, and clear farm land out.
Just purchase a property in a rural area. I found 6 acres of land with a double-wide trailer for $28k a few years ago.
Look within 1-1.5 hours of your location if you're in a major city. Somewhere that you can get to quickly, and also maybe in a direction of the least amount of incoming and outgoing traffic (IE not having property between the two most populous cities in your state).
IMO, buy your fucking property before you start hoarding guns and supplies. You people that live in city apartments spending thousands on guns and shit make me laugh.
>All these fuckers don't know about innaundergrounds
>>29743226
No, we're just not stupid. I hate quoting a movie of a shitty director but ...
>Well, you don't got to be Stonewall Jackson to know you don't want to fight in a basement!
>>29743246
I'm talking about the day /k/ planned the underground base
>>29743196
Jealous much?
>>29743127
As opposed to not so severe cancer
>>29742983
>not digging and shooting in your very own viet cong tunnel
>>29743196
Your neighbor is just going to kill you as you walk up to your sweet trailer
This is relevant to my interests.
I'm more into field expedient/pack-able shelters however.
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>>29743762
You have cancerous cells every day, anon.
>>29742999
What if you installed load bearing beams?
I think this is related
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA/featured
this guy makes his own shelter,tools and weapons with nothing but his hands and the surrounding environment.
>>29744639
What about load bearing posters?
>>29743762
Just a light sprinkling of the moderate kind
>>29744639
Why not use culvert?
There was a thread a few weeks ago about long lasting construction with geopolymer concrete and basalt rebar. Use those and your bunker will survive for a thousand years unless someone knocks on the door with a PGM.
>>29744639
If you're going to go that far you might as well build an actual unnaground shelter.
>>29743024
kek
>>29743075
Rust would probably do a number on it though.
>>29742999
Depends on the rating of the container. Super heavy containers can withstand a lot more than 18 inches of dirt.
You can also reinforce the roof with some welding and steel plating. Weld some extra pillars onto the walls and some plate across the top.
>>29743057
The shipping containers are stacked on the edges. The tops/bottoms/sides are not load bearing and are just shitty sheet metal. If you bury one, it needs an extra roof added that is rounded (like a school bus roof) to keep the weight off of the sheet metal. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for so many people to grasp.
Even if there is a chance that it won't cave in in the first few months, why take a risk like that? So many people make it clear that it is a bad idea but some assholes just need their fantasies.
>>29745431
Fuck year this is comfy as fuck.
Based longhouse and halls.
>>29742999
I wouldn't bury one, I'd make a wall and install a tower with gated entry. Then just stack shit loads of brush around it and make it look like a thicket.
If you live in the plains, you can always dig a sod house.
I like the single occupant shelter that Austrian dyke on Youtube made.
>>29743050
>Build a fence out of backberry bushes
Oohh...yummy, I love backberries...hey isnt that a house over there
>>29742983
>tfw I'll never have enough money to get a smallish but comfy underground shelter with a couple of solar panels on the surface, with a dehumidifier for water, tons of canned goods, and a PS One with the little LCD screen like the old one I used to have (as opposed to something like a PS3 and a TV which would be powerhogs) with some comfy games with replay value, and a second controller and someone to play with
>>29743196
>hes not going to declare open season on nogs and kebabs.
>>29746338
Implying you can see any reasonable distance through blackberry bushes.
>>29745603
It can be done tough... and pretty well at that, just saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0oFJ2jbkDI
>>29746228
Who?
>>29746883
Survival Lilly. Her girlfriend Bushcraft Steffi comes over to scissor sometimes
>>29744932
Or you could buy some 10 foot diameter steel tubing and bury that instead
>>29746338
Anon, you've never seen wild blackberry brambles have you? Why don't you do a bit of research before you try to be funny, otherwise you come across as a fool.
>>29742983
>not building innarock
>>29742983
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>>29742983
>sks
>inna woods
How new are you to /k?
>>29747953
>>29742983
Only answer. for about 15 grand you can get enough 1/2" AR500 to make it entirely smallarms proof. Doesn't even really need to be wood, just put wood cladding on the outside and finish up the interior with insulation and drywall, then cut gun ports and murder holes in the thing. Don't forget the earthwork starfort around it. Cozy as Fuck.
>>29742999
It's because people bury them improperly. You know they stack them on each other right?
>>29746202
Also this guy gets it.
A car crashed into our shipping container that was loaded up with hay. He hit it hard enough to move it a foot or two. It stayed structurally sound.
>>29748179
Another angle.
If you know anything about shipping containers you will know they can take a beating and hold the weight. When it comes to putting dirt on top of it of course you can't just dump it on and say, DONE! You're going to have to apply a little science and geometry.
>>29748239
forgot pic
>>29742999
Shipping containers need to be stacked, they have stacking points.
You would need to place a load bearing plate that transfers the pressure from the dirt onto the container's load bearing points.
>>29748281
I agree with you on that point if does right they can be buried but I'm of the opinion that the smart way to do it is to recess your shipping container 3-4 feet or so into the ground and reinforce the sides with concrete or mettle plates of some sort then pile that dirt along the sides plant some black berry bushes around it and call it good
I wish I could find a pic of one of the cabins used by the Norwegian commandos that attacked the heavy water plant. It was build in a rock pile on a ridge... out of rocks. Camouflaged like crazy
>>29748445
I feel like the right thing is to just build your shelter out of timber or stained lumber.
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>>29744675
you don't have time or a safety net to do this shit when SHTF
>>29742983
Well why don't you post a SHTF shelter instead of an empty clearing in a forest?
>>29743019
Its still a good idea, just put it in a hole and cover it instead of burying it. Boom you now have external storage space .
Wood walkway with soil on top. 1 year and its indestinguishable.
>>29747533
>implying you wouldn't be able to notice anything suspicious about a circle of briers in the middle of nowhere
This thread makes me want to see the world.
There are some gorgeous fucking pics in this thread.
>>29744365
Have spider holes that link up with them, also use skateboards/electric scooters to move about quickly.
>>29747846
>>29747831
> I will never wait out the happening in irl firelink shrine
>>29748643
On word....Fire, enough said.
>>29750181
Well if you go, go /K, Go armed.
>>29750135
>Having a shelter in the middle of an open plain and not matching it to surroundings
wew lad
>>29744695
KEK
>>29742999
>>29743011
>>29743027
>>29744639
>>29743057
>>29744639
>>29744932
>>29746202
>>29748179
>>29748281
You all are a bunch of fucking mongs
>not buying abandoned gas station fuel storage tanks
>tanks that are built to have explosive materials inside them
>also built to have quite a few feet of dirt and concrete with heavy vehicles parked on top of them
>not knowing that many gas stations are more than willing to sell you the tank at an extremely discounted price if you take them off their hands
>with a weeks worth of welding and scrap steel you can weld in bunk beds/shelves/chairs/plumbing/wiring/EMP shielding/airtight hatches/faraday cages/heating/air conditioning/backup generators/electric lighting/sound systems/fire extinguishing systems
Its almost like you guys have never apocalypsed before
>>29744365
That guy has quite the forehead.
>>29750251
Fuck
cargo containers can work underground.
BUT faggots never reinforce them.
>newfags.
bitch i will chill out in suburbia. knock a few murder holes out the walls and chill. get some fishing line to set up alert systems. if i die i didnt die living in a thorn bush.
>>29748795
Hawaii would be the ultimate SHTF survival spot
>>29750048
I kinda get what your saying. Dig a take a 9 foot tall connex. Put it in a 12 ft hole and at the 10 foot line dig the a few feet wider and place wooden beams or trees in that space then cover with dirt. That'll give you a few years before they rot and collapse and kill you.
>>29744479
The tarp kinda negates the camo.
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>>29751448
That's natural for mole men as they are very prone to "bonking" their heads repeatedly on low ceilings.
> make nice visible shelter
>> make even nicer hidden shelter closeby
>> when shtf rob people who come to the visible shelter.
>>29753132
>>29748795
NO. NO IT WOULD NOT. I lived there for 3 miserable fucking years. Oahu is at double its capacity, there's traffic all the time, fucking Nips and the local lava niggers are rude as fuck. Oh yeah, and the gun laws? Literally worse than california. Carrying a handgun outside of your house when you are not going to or coming back from the range is a PMITA felony.
DEEP BREATH FUCK
Anyway that picture is from the Haiku Stairs, or stairway to heaven, hiked it in July of '13. Have pics if anyone's interested.
>>29755138
>lava niggers
nice
>>29746222
they always seemed like a shit hole to live in from what ive read.
There was a guy on youtube that just dug a hole and covered it with telephone poles.
Made a nice little place to hide.
>>29748179
They are only load bearing on the corners you extra chromosome carrier. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>29742983
Why all the work, just use some great german engineering from the fourties. Now the only thing which i dont easily get is a gun...
>>29743174
making land farmable isnt something you can just do shtf. You should be clearing and prepping the land yearly. At that point you might as well just plant crops half assed just to see what grows best. If your planning on taking unfarmed land and turning it into self sustained farm land in a few weeks shtf your sadly mistaken.
>>29750718
After driving cross country i like this idea. Theres all types of these places in based states
>>29744626
Well no, because those damaged cells most people get, get recognized and forced into apoptosis by the bodies defences. That's not generally considerd to be cancer. Malignant neoplasm would be a better word for cancer but that sounds terrible.
>>29750718
This
>>29757973
It wouldnt hurt to plant fruit trees or bushes and other edible plants on your land before shtf. Give yourself an existing food source.
For instance i live in apple country.
So ive been trying to transplant an apple tree or two by my cabin.
>>29759078
Not a bad plan.... I could see it attracting bears but that only means more meat for you.
>>29759078
Nice. I live in territory that can grow all kinds of excellent fruit trees and berry bushes... but I also live within nuke-me range of a naval base so if SHTF I'm probably dead anyway.
MY CASTLE!
want to come join me, anon-kun?
I want to get some "camping and hunting" land some day.
Something picturesque.
>>29755138
am interested
>>29760173
>those walls
>those gaps
>0/10 would not operate with
>>29759249
why have a full length mirror directly in front of the shitter?
evaluating your technique?
>>29760572
mirrin myself, also great for when I want to put on my 3 piece suit.
>>29743196
>You people that live in city apartments spending thousands on guns and shit make me laugh
>guns are pointless unless they make up a small part of my SHTF apocalypse masturbatory fantasy which will never be reality
>>29752991
Original OP here. You kinda opened my eyes and shit on my dreams at the same time. I don't want this anymore. Thanks?
Does anyone have the massive cap of all the unnagrounds stuff? I haven't seen that in forever and it is a good laugh.
The people on this board are practically molemen already, the transition really wouldn't be that hard on us.
>>29750718
Sweet free fumes to huff and cancer, no need to wait for the bombs
>>29759234
Kitsap?
Move on the other side of the mountains and you may be alright...
you know every moron is going to run into the woods right? why would you leave shelter? Just get better locks on your doors.
>>29742999
Pour cement around it on all sides. Works pretty good.
>>29753989
> rot
Or you know, fiberboard or other materials that dont do this. Point being is that its burried, concealed, and not compromising the connex from above.
Were talking shtf prep far as I know, im not spending time or effort to bury a connex posy shtf.
me and afew friends are turning this Train tunnel into a shelter, located innawoods away from the road so i'd say its a pretty great place to set up shop.
>>29752991
>if i die i didnt die living in a thorn bush.
but nigga, what if the thorn bush increases your chances of survival? you tryna survive muhfucka or u just tryna kick it on a loveseat watchin shrek on a generator that is fillin ur house with gas cuz u a dumb fuck who didnt put it outside?
>>29742999
Why don't these people look into Storm drain Cement pipe? you get get ones that are 8ft+ in diameter and 12 feet long.
Dig down maybe 30 feet place them like pic related. you could have 8 tubes for sleeping/food/gear etc, you use the giant 12x12x12 cube in the center for Kitchen/eating area if you have other people.
>>29764092
except that more than just you are going to know about it
that shit is on city maps, which are in the library and a ton of other public buildings
teenagers and kids know all about this shit, its the best place to do drugs and graffiti
i mean literally, anywhere else would be better than that shithole
>>29764092
what is the length of the tunnel? if possible see if the land is for sale and convert it into a bunker.
>>29744932
Or buy some concrete box culvert, which is designed to be buried and doesn't rust.
>>29764226
Gonna see who owns it on friday actually. the Tunnel goes under tracks owned by Panam so i beleive its Panam's but the thing has been abandoned for years. The tunnel i can use is 500 yards deep but there is a non-load bearing wall at the end that, once knocked down, goes for about a half mile to a mile. That bit goes under a highway so there is no way i can own that.
>>29764219
just replace the locks on the doors, big bamp boom, its mine jimmy.
>>29764297
>>29764219
Also, no drugs and grafiti only goes to 83, so i think i'm good for it being secluded.
>>29764297
cuz locks are impenetrable, right bub? i can make thermite in ten minutes with shit in my garage and burn through your lock (and blind you while doing it, because you are investigating the HIISSSS noise) and then shoot you and rape your body
>>29764328
Jesus do you have some neosporin?
Cut myself on that edge
>>29764328
i'll have you know, you need to be over 18 to be on this site. and its a school night young man.
>>29764328
You realize it actually takes quite a bit of thermite to melt through steel? Now a small oxygen bottle and some steel brake line...
>>29742983
If I had no time to prepare, I'd go to a natural gas plant. srs. I work at one.
>They're in the middle of nowhere
>plenty of food for operators on long shifts
>some have their own wells and purification systems
>lots of places to hide
>beds in control room
>showers
>200+ tall stack with walkways for surveillance
>can see for miles if they're in west texas/new mexico where lots of oil/gas is produced.
>security system/fence
>giant gasoline/diesel tanks for company trucks
>some more stuff I probably forgot
>>29764678
(me again)
If I did have time to prepare, I'd just fortify my house. Safe room and supplies in basement, board up windows, etc. On your own land is better, but suburbs work too. Make it look abandoned when SHTF so people think no one and nothing is there - forget the Czech hedgehogs and barbed wire. Use it in case of home invasion or whatever. double duty.
>>29744365
Golum show Hobbitses the way through the tunnel!
>>29744365
>new from 5.11 tactical, the operator flops
>molle webbing on the thong for quick deployment when second's matter
>multicam and ranger green coming soon
>available in women's size 6 through 5xl
>>29750718
Man that's a great idea. Wish it was feasible however
Expect a toxic and still flammable asphalt-like slick that's in the bottom of the tank that you'll never be able to get out of there. That's why they are so eager to sell them to you cheaply, they don't have to care for ecological disposal that way.
Don't think you can cut it open without blowing.
>>29768570
Someone buy some and shoot at them
>>29764092
Have you had any trouble with hobos
>>29757751
Wo?
