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Can we get a SKS thread goin' ? Post pictures and stories of your best and worst moments with your siminov
I saw some on the web for about 430. I know there surplus and they will only run out. I don't have alot of money, but I want a long gun before the presidential election (merica). Should I just get one now before it's too late?
> want sks because of ease of reloads as opposed to ar15 and muh wood
> $350 for chink sks with hand picked option included
> fuck man I dont want shit, might as well get an ar15
> found deal on anderson ar15 for $500 or less, about same price as Russian sks
Should I get an ar15 or sks? I thought that stripper clips were faster than magazines but that idea is starting to go away
>>29733865
Do you want a yugo or type 56? Classic has yugos for 430 but jg sales had type 56s for 330. I doubt either will run out soon, but the prices probably won't get any better.
I want the Yugo one. So waiting probably won't hurt huh
>>29733876
If you have the money, I would go for an AR. I'm poor, this is more in my price range. Plus it comprable to the 30-30
Romanian in a Chinese stock
What do you all use to hold your clips?
>>29731667
SKS noob question.
>ype 56 sks
> Need a new firing pin
> See Albanian firing pin for sale
Are these firing pins interchangeable or do I need to find a type 56 firing pin?
I don't understand why anyone would consider this a serious defensive weapon.
Its fun to shoot but it takes 10rd clips and is shooting 7.62x39, its heavy for what it is and the action is open.
I understand as a budget plinker but its soooooooooooo outgunned
>>29734404
That's why I'm going to outfit mine with a monte carlo stock and detachable magazines
>>29734387
Probably not, Albanian SKSs were fucking weird so they don't share many parts.
>>29734387
Sure man why not
>>29734404
>>29734425
and a super rapid mag release
>>29731667
About to take the plunge on an SKS, what's my best bet for getting one that's not beat to shit and in generally good shape?
>>29731667
>live in ban state
>cradle glorious simonov Tula SKS and Yugo m59 every night as the only slavshit that I can own
>march around the house admiring carbine from various angles and lighting conditions
>fantasize about SHTF and imagine fleeing innawoods near my suburban home
>watch SKS videos on YouTube
>deny free floating firing pin exists because it is a flaw in otherwise perfect hardwood and milled steel God tier firearm
>practice loading gun with stripper clips, then dumping loose rounds into a bucket
>bayonet cardboard boxes and plastic takeout containers
>intimately stroke the gun and imagine where it's been around the world
>go to the range, handload two or three rounds, fire, appreciate groupings like I'm viewing fine art
>go to bar with my only friend and fantasize about gun because I'm too awkward to successfully converse with a human woman and compensate by thinking about my success with simonov carbine
I think this accurately sums up my relationship with my rifle
>>29734441
a lot of the yugos come straight out of the cosmoline
>>29734404
>SKS costs, today, what AK-47s cost 5 years ago
>AK-47s are now more expensive than AR-15s
What we need is a gun scare in China, The nations formerly known as Yugoslavia, Russia, and East Germany.
>>29734449
What are some websites that usually have them in stock?
>>29733876
Listen. I love my sks and strippers are fun. But there is obviously a reason no modern military issues stripper fed rifles anymore.
>>29734404
Because it has a huge bayonet that's long enough to run a man through and offers ten rounds of x39 from a semi automatic action. Really not that bad
>>29734467
Have fun carrying around bulky magazines and struggling to fit the fuckers into your kit when all I have to do is put the indiscreet, equally fast stripper clip into my pocket. Let's see you fit a 30 rounder into your jeans.
>>29734442
Your like another version of me
>>29734459
I got mine at a gun show but this site looks ok. It'll end up costing $430 without shipping, transfer, and background check though. Depending on the gun show if they don't gouge their prices I'd get one there. The world has gone mad with what they're charging for them. JG sales has some for about 100 bucks cheaper, but they're usually beat to shit
>>29734482
You can easily fit 20rd mags into cargo pants or tac pants.
5.11 makes pants that comfortable and discreetly fit two 30rds on the legs.
You can carry a 10rd mag if you want.
Plus if your carrying a fucking fullsize rifle discreetness is thrown out the window.
Magazines are faster and more reliable and are a force multiplier.
>>29734459
>>29734491
forgot link
https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-semi-auto-excellent
>>29734482
>equally fast
I really wish this meme would die. Even the detachable duck bill magazines are faster than strippers
>>29734491
If I could inspect at jandg would a type 56 be a bad purchase I already have aks I just want a sks again
>live in az
>>29734482
>30 round mag
>3x stripper clips
while being in three pieces makes it easy to transport, it also takes 3x the amount of time to reload.
also, keeping a magazine in your pocket is a better idea then trying to fish out three loaded clips.
stripper clips are cool, but lets not delude ourselves here
>>29734442
Spot on chap. I have a gf, but the rest is perfectly spot on
>>29734522
This.
Plus who cares abour being discrete when you have an 9lb wood and steel long(er) rifle.
Atleast they make SBR AR15's and AKs you can put in a backpack
Its easy to carry an instantly reloadable 30rds than 3 10rd delicate clips.
>>29734519
Not at all.I like my yugo but the chinese sks's all have chrome lined barrels. They're good for shooting that surplus ammo
>>29734451
That be nice
I like to shoot my Siminovs more than my Kalashnikovs.
>>29734484
>>29734529
I'm glad you guys understand. I know my post reads like irony but I'm totally serious.
>>29734502
>magazines are more reliable
Sure because no magazine has ever jammed and a leaf spring stamped steel clip holding 10 rounds in a row can fail to deploy
>magazines are a force multiplier
Do you know what else is a force multiplier? A ten inch bayonet and solid wood stock with steel buttplate perfect for stabbing and bashing objects. Hope your riveted rear trunnion doesn't have its screw snap off when you butt stroke someone AK fag.
>>29734596
The SKS still uses a leaf spring and follower dude lol
Tell me why do you think modern militaries and police use detachable box magazines
>>29734646
No man. Stripper clips are just as fast okay?
>>29734519
How do you do mag changes with that dong in the way
>>29734596
What happens when you have a mag failure on a modern gun in a firefight? Swap it out.
If you have a failure on an sks mag what do you do? Plus have you ever dug out a stripper and tried to load it under pressure? Again I love my sks and strippers are fun but they are dated for sure.
>>29734669
Easily just have to use steel mags
Yall need to look up texas firearms super rapid release it replaces the mag release assembly and is an ak flapper release and works reallly well its about 60 buck i think
>>29734703
Ugh that poor sks
>that spigot removal
>>29734646
>>29734677
I know the SKS is dated but coming from a place that has made the sale of AK's illegal please just let me have my moment
Yeah it looks like it was done during one of the gun import laws and crap
>>29734703
no gunsmithing required either
>>29734718
Where
>2 years ago
>aim, classic and Atlantic all get a piece of that last chink sks shipment
>decide to buy
>total cost about tree fiddy
>get it into my FFL, looks alright but can't really tell because cosmology
>take home and clean, inspect more thoroughly
>stock is dark and beat up, metal finish nonexistant
>import marked type 56 China
>dust cover has a star and says 1951r
>wait what?
>receiver matches dust cover's serial
>magazine is force matched
>a little research confirms this sks is Russian
>still beat to shit, probably worth about what I paid for it.
>still happy
>>29734703
Definitely an upgrade but it still requires the use of duckbill magazines. It would be nice if someone could create an SKS D conversion to allow for the use of AK mags.
>>29734758
The People's Republic of Maryland. Only AK's we can get are $1000 VEPR rifles in 308 and x54r and zastava m92 pistols. Still need a MD HQL which I refuse to get based on principle and go through and paperwork to make it a usable 100 yard SBR. VEPR is allowed because the retards in Annapolis think the larger cartridge makes it a hunting rifle instead of a dangerous salt rifle
>>29734800
duckbills aren't TOO bad, just a pain to store on you. Still better than strippers imo. Especially with the super rapid release
>>29734800
I live in MD too!
Yeah it's sad. We can get Vz.58's though.
Yeah all the laws are ridiculous. Atleast ban states can have AK's in sporterized or bullet button formats.
>>29734800
Its definately an upgrade and better than nothing i too dislike duckbills to a degree but its a decent enough stop gap for it besides cutting them up for other system addons
>>29734772
Nice find friend. Got lucky on that one. My LGS did something similar. They're not too knowledgable about milsurp.
>LGS says they have a m59/66 with "its muzzle break cut off"
Lol wut
>turns out to be the rarer m59, worn finish but spotless bore
>still in the cosmoline
>selling less common varient at a discount because they think bubba has gotten to it and the rifle has been modified with a hacksaw
>buy m59 as a tough as hell shooter rifle for innawoods
>laugh all the way home
>>29734819
Yea I'll probably buy a CSA rifle soon. Even for a 1000 it's still worth it because it's not like I can go dump a bunch of money into an AK collection.
>>29734849
Do you find that tapco mags run reliably? Most people trash talk the duckbills
Does the grenade launching spigot double as a muzzle break? I hear this all the time on SKS survivors board and SKS files.
>>29734913
No, not in the least. It does make the rifle front heavy and unbalanced though, a nightmare with the bayonet deployed.
>>29734800
I'm sorry anon I didn't know about your condition. I will pray for you.
>>29734931
That's too bad.
>>29734900
Mine fed alright i guess its hit and miss but better than the promags of course they have a bolt mod service out to make the bolt bottom look like a v shape chassis to accepted mags fully loaded when the bolt is closed
>>29734932
Thank you. I hope to one day escape across the border into west Virginia to have my rights restored.
>>29734867
Muh 59
>>29734482
>Let's see you fit a 30 rounder into your jeans
Kinda cancels out
>struggling to fit the fuckers into your kit
20 and 30 founders fit in jeans just fine, especially cargo pants and that kit you mentioned makes it pretty damn easy to stow empties. That may well be the poorest of the poor argument I've seen, kinda surprised you can afford the clips.
Soon my Canadian brothers
>>29734980
I think I've seen you around before, always posting your m59. Were you the guy who was getting pissed off at the chicom guys talking about how vastly superior a chrome bore is? If so, you convinced me to buy my m59 in a thread roughly 2 months ago
>>29734996
>>29734980
does it say m59 on the receiver? My 59/66 came without the grenade launcher
>>29735021
>>29734596
>much superior melee
Guess that's valid when you only have 10 rounds and a reload measured in epochs.
Meanwhile the average carbine guy can happily muzzle punch you in the face before applying a bullet to Amy given part of you. Did you know that ARs, AKs, and even the fucking shotguns have bayonet lugs?
>>29734996
>>29735021
>>29735034
>tfw there are only 10 Type 81s in the U.S.
>that's all we'll ever get
REEEEEEE FUCK YOU CANADA!!
>>29735027
Yes the import mark would say m59. I've seen several yugos that had the spigot cut off to improve the handling. Does yours have the gas shut off valve? if not it may be a m59.
>>29735038
C'mon, it's rare when Canada can get something nice.
>>29734980
I also like savage and simonov
>>29735057
Lol oh wow I'm retarded. Yeah it's an m59. Just checked the receiver. I thought it was a 59/66 for some reason but it's an m59. Is that better than other sks's?
>>29735087
like I said. the metal finish is almost like it was never there
>>29733876
AR first, sks next. Stripper clips are for fun, not speed.
>>29735110
It's the most heavily built SKS when compared to the others. The Chinese and even the Russian (to an extent) feel toy like next to the m59. The stock especially is more durable.
On the other hand they lack a chrome bore but this shouldn't make a difference unless you bump fire your gun constantly.
The m59 was also only made in the tens of thousands instead of the millions so it's a less common variant.
>>29735114
Please post more close ups of the gun. Does it have any Chinese markings? What does the import mark say as to the nationality?
>>29735191
awesome. Good to know. Thanks
>>29735209
imported as chinese
>>29735406
no Chinese characters or /26\ or anything, some odd proof marks here and there
>>29735209
serial doesn't match the digital Chinese use, M and C are Cyrillic charactets, but this gave me pause for a while
>>29735425
force matched magazine shows more obvious Cyrillic
>>29735445
dust cover matches
>>29735457
stock too if you'll take my word, it's hard to see in person as much as in pictures
>>29735465
Very nice, looks like a sino Soviet gun. Russian parts, but Chinese assembly. Is the firing pin spring loaded? In 1951 they switched to chrome bores so there is a chance that gun may not be chromed.
>>29735981
since soviets use the Chinese serial number pattern, even the ghosts. and they only used tula stamped dust cover's as replacement, this dust cover is original to the receiver
this rifle was given as a whole rifle to china, and later to albania. I read that a number of these Russian sneaks were in this batch, eventually to be seized by ATF
>>29736052
>since
damn auto correct. sino-Soviet
>>29734703
>>29733920
This. The jg one I just got was like 230 last year.
The metal was good under an amazing amount of cosmo. The wood is ok. Not great but not cracked or anything major.I could probably just clean it but it's soaked so much grease up I'll probably end up just refinishing it.
>>29735014
Lol I don't think I was pissed off I just think people who aren't going to war overrate chrome lined bores.
How do you like it?? I need to take some more pics.
>>29735027
And mine is an unissued 59. I bought it with a crate of her sisters. Pic related. Sold them and kept this one free.
>>29735014
Also I don't always post my m59, just shows up in sks threads. I can post off-topic funs!
>>29736254
You were right about it being solid. Much heavier than my Russians, I feel like I can actually use this gun unlike my Tula which stays oiled and in the safe. I dont think I can go back to the chinese model now after feeling the heavy yugo build. Overall pleased with the purchase. Thanks for the recommendation and pushing me to get it.
>be me
>don't own any slavshit
should I get wasr, or sks? Purely for plinking only, I have other defense rifles.
What types of sks's are best? Do they come with glorious bayonet?
>>29736408
sks is more fun for me, particularly if you have something else that would fit the ak/ar role
milsurp has its own appeal and I'm actually quite fond of the SKS manual of arms
>>29736408
Well at this point, SKSs have raised in price to the point that they're hardly a low cost alternative to an AK, so really it's just a matter of whatever you think looks cooler.
Generally the ranking seems to be
>Russian
>Chinese
>Yugo
From best to worst, however the differences are really minor. The Chinese ones usually have a spike bayonet, while the only thing that makes Yugos worth getting (at least in my opinion) is that they've got a blade bayonet and grenade launcher that make it look neat.
Personally, I have a Yugo. I definitely overpaid for it, but it's a fairly solid rifle.
Here's my Yugo
Near-spotless bore, overall great condition, it's never been touched by Century Arms, and all the numbers match including the stock.
Sorry for the low-quality pic tho. It was originally like 8mb and I'm on my phone, so the only way to reduce filesize that I know of is to screenshot and crop.
>>29736477
>>29736496
thanks. I'm still torn. I mean ak's are appealing, but loading with clips seems really neat. Also folding bayonet is sauce.
>>29736496
Another plus to the Yugo is that most are like new and not beat to shit.
>>29735406
>>29735416
>>29735425
>>29735445
>>29735457
>>29735465
How did whoever that was importing them they not know this was a Russian SKS aside from the obvious arsenal stamp and cyrillic.
>>29736767
if you are going through crates of the Fuckers all coated in cosmoline, you aren't minutely inspecting each rifle, if you even open every crate.
the exporters might have noticed but they had no reason to care.
I am getting some cash here soon. I want an sks and I have no idea what to look for at a gun show. What markings should I look for, and what things should I pay attention to?
>>29734980
nice, fellow yugobro. muh 59/66
>>29736910
Don't pay more than 400 for a Chinese, 450 for a Yugo, or 600 for a Russian. Check the bore and make sure it's not rusted out. Don't worry too much about rough physical aesthetics, some of them saw hard military service.
Any Russian is desirable, a Chinese with a 26 on the left of the receiver is desirable, and the Yugo m59, the kind without the grenade spigot, are less common. Be wary of the m59/66, the gas system can have problems if it gets rusty or leaks. Will lead to unreliable cycling.
>>29731667
>>29736910
I would post the SKS buying guide but its a bit outdated. Ideally, look for a Russian one from Tula arsenal (the famous star and arrow mark) but those are more costly these days with the surplus supply long dried up. If youre getting one for pure poorfag reasons, get a norinco with the spike bayonet. Those are the cheapest but ugliest, in my opinion. If you want a balance between the two and arguably the best quality SKS you can get for a reasonable price, its a Yugo. Made in the 60s-80s, often un-issued and pristine. the m59/66 model has the characteristic grenade launcher on the muzzle, longer than the usual SKS. If you can be patient, a good SKS may turn up at your LGS
>>29737144
Ok.
Dumb question, I got a type 56 a few weeks ago and there seems to be a circular rough spot an inch inside the chamber before the rifling starts. Is this supposed to be there? It seems like it is. My rifle was from J&G sales and it's otherwise awesome and matching
>>29737165
I should go look at my LGS. They have a few SKSs. And the owner is russian.
before and after of my $200 russian "sneak"
>>29737573
same desu.
photos here. I didn't get the finishing on the metal though
>>29735087
>>29736349
Yeah I had a chink commercial gun and they are incomparable. I hope it serves you well anon
>>29734373
altohugh I boufght a chink chest rig, I only shoot at ranges an there's no fucking point to that. I just throw 3-5 clips in my range bag along with whatever else I'm shooting.
Couldn't find an answer anywhere else; what does a four digit serial number mean? I've seen plenty with five or six, but I can't find much on 4 digit ones.
Sorry if I'm retarded.
>>29738367
What country is yours? Pics of markings?
anyone here ever try mounting a scope? I'd like to own my first scope and I think that SKS suits a DMR role alongside the AK.
>>29738833
Choate mount or the crazy ivan mount looks promising never go for the dust cover scope mount its a very cleverly made piece of shit or use an actual russian mount off of kalinka its not hard to do these and is fairly easy. But if your hesitant to drill and tap just think of it this way ak's most of the modern ones have scope rails and it really helps out knowing you have that option and its nice to have that with the sks
>>29738833
it's not particularly more accurate than a good ak, it's 20 inch barrel might make its effectiveness range a touch farther but probably not much as x39 burns very fast and works well out of short barrels
however I would recommend an ak style side mount because dust cover's are going to be a little lose for precision fire at range
>>29733876
What are you going to use the rifle for? Hunting? Target shooting? Both are good options. I was deciding between sks, ak, or ar for my first long gun. I went with the ar and built mine (stripped lower with a barreled upper). I'm glad I got the ar because I now know how to service my rifle and replace parts when needed.
>>29735038
and larry snickers has one of them
>>29739085
Yeah, figured. I can't seem to do good anything less than 3-4 MOA at 100 yards with irons. Maybe it's just me, I don't have any glass so I'm stuck with irons and have been trying to master them. Seems like the SKS only goes so far in that regard.
>>29734996
>>29735021
>>29735034
my nigga
Any Canadabros in here? I'm planning on buying one of the Russian made surplus/refurbs that every Canadian retailer is selling and want to maximize my chances of getting a nice one, preferably with a chromed barrel. Any advice?
Are there any mags out there that don't suck total ass? I'm going for a 30 rounder
>>29739400
tapco 20's are the only real reliable detachable mags for the sks
>>29739289
WTF am I looking at?
>>29739419
type 81
>>29731667
do you have to lean way the fuck back to get eye relief with your scope all the way the fuck back past where your head should be?
>>29734503
holy fuck! why not just buy an ak for that kind of money?
>>29734387
I have a Chink SKS and I wanted to replace the firing pin and the firing pin retainer, so I got some NOS Chink parts that ended up not fitting. The firing pins has some weird black phosphate coating and the retainer was too big.
Luckily, I have a friend who works in a machine shop who was able to mill the retainer down to fit and clean up the firing pins, too. A couple of minutes on a scotchbrite wheel really tidied them up and shortened the tips a bit. I'm really not sure why they were so out of spec. Maybe my bolt is kind of fucky.
TL;DR - Some handfitting may be required
>>29739474
Not my rifle but i had a similiar set up it wasnt to bad
I thinking about getting an SKS and throwing a scout mounted scope on it (I live in a cali till I graduate college) you guys think its worth while?
Ive got an old sks with no furniture what do?
>>29734442
Cute story le maguc plas. You can easily upgrade the free floating firing pin and basically have a perfect vintage rifle
>>29736748
My yugo is mint. Never fired. Looks absolutely gorgeous.
>>29743110
build furniture out of legos
>>29743110
Sg works bullpup kit of coursh
>>29743792
wait whats this free float fire pin? I do not know about that.
>>29745371
Firing pin is not held by a spring, it is loose. You can add a spring. The only difference it makes, is that if you let a free floating pin get real dirty, you may get slamfires.
>>29734502
>Magazines are faster and more reliable and are a force multiplier in a weapon designed from the ground up to utilize them
ftfy
Duckbills are fucking garbage, son.
And converting an SKS to use AK mags is a complicated headache that results in a rifle with spotty reliability that doesn't do anything better than an AK does.
I have an SKS and an AK and I love both. Trying to turn an SKS into an AK is a waste of time and money. If you want an AK just get an AK.
I have a '58 Romanian, and I love it dearly.
The fact that people often overlook one of the best SKS variants in typical conversation makes me love it all the more.
>>29748396
Forgot pic. Complete with battle buddy.
