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general talk about lever actions
mention favorite caliber for them below!
.44 mag/45-70
Eternal favorite would be the Marlin 1894 in .44 mag.
That being said I'm seriously considering stashing some money away for a short stroke conversion just for the infinite novelty of arguing with old timers and fucking with /k/ by way of 10mm lever action. It would go great with the gp100 conversion
>>29717676
>10mm lever action
That would definitely go well with the .357 mag/.38 special lever guns out there.
>>29716659
>favorite caliber
45-70 is pretty hard to beat
45-70s are indeed the boss. However .44s and .45 LCs can be loaded very hot and nip at the heels of low and mid range 45-70 power levels.
If the lever action doesn't have a side loading gate it's practically a deal breaker in my opinion.
>>29717696
And a few places will do a .45auto conversion on a .45colt 1873 for about $500. Damn good looking riflr
>>29716659
Only levergun I own is in 357 but I love the caliber. I reload for it, and can get a 164gr lead bullet going 2,000fps from a 16" barrel. That is 1450 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. A 500 s&w levergun would be fun. I already have the companion revolver.
>>29717869
>500 s&w levergun would be fun. I already have the companion revolver.
I hear you. I'd love one of these in .460 if they weren't so damned expensive and with such a long wait. http://www.bighornarmory.com/catalog/1/big-horn-armory-products/
>>29717929
not 100% sure here, but I wanna say someone did some chrono results on youtube with a single shot 500 and there wasnt any major fps increase. Only thing stopping me from pursuing the 500 magnum rifle thing is the fact that a 12 gauge pump gun with slugs can do pretty much anything the 500 cartridge can do. For all intents and purposes, a 500 is basically a hot 12 gauge slug load.
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I just got into the levergat game. I have a Win 94 30-30 (1951) and a Henry .22 on layaway. I'm lusting pretty hard after a 45-70 though.
There's just something about a hunk of wood and steel that's uniquely American that I really love. I have all sorts of tacticool modern shit but I have a very special place in my heart for the levergat
I've got a marlin 1895g in 45-70. The hot loads really help with my recoil fetish but they are so damned expensive.
>tfw a prostitute fetish might be less expensive at this point.
I've handled quite a few rossi lever actions and would generally recommended against them. Winchester is alright and henry makes some nice ones.
Anyone own a browning BLR? Most likely my next purchase in a good fudd caliber like 30-06 or .270.
>>29719194
If you're in Canada you'd better get that BLR quick before they're banned. The police are trying to paint them as 2kury "high powered sniper rifles" now after someone waxed a chink criminal with one from 200 meters.
>>29716659
I really want a new Marlin, I hear they sorted out their shit.
>>29717676
This might be a dumb question but if you chamber a lever-action for 10x25mm Auto, would it load, cycle and safely fire .40S&W?
>>29717869
Ever tried Leverevolutions? I'd love to pull those bullets and make my own hot loads for them.
>>29719194
Dude a classic lee loader is like less than thirty bucks. And you don't need a garage or shed, here's a dude literally teaching you how to reload 45-70 innawoods with the aforementioned loader.
http://youtu.be/3duhNVjAu6E
It would literally pay for itself the first time you use it and there's tons of 45-70 load data around.
this thread and the new magnificent 7 trailer are making me want a lever gun super bad.
I was actually a bit curious to see the ballistics gel performance of the .45-70, and was lucky enough to find a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfDuZwtNPOc
The gel doesn't jump and warp as dramatically as with a soft point 7.62x39, but holy fuck those fragments.
>that one fragment that comes flying out the top of the gel block
>>29719315
Alaskan but fuck that's stupid. Might as well ban any firearm that can shoot past 50 yds even though your statisticly more likely to be shot in less distance.
>>29719336
Not him but I like the leverevolution rounds for my 45-70. Decent ballistics and actually pretty cheap compared to remington, winchester or, buffalo bore.
>>29719361
Well I do have about 500 used casings for it lying around. It's not my main shooter though. If I wanted to spend the time learning reloading and buying powder, bullets and primers. I'd just go ahead and get a full on setup for .308, 300 WM, .454 and, just about every other caliber I shoot. Thanks for the advise I haven't even heard of those before.
>>29719361
That is one awesome old dude. There's something to be said for 19th century tech that any retard can maintain in the woods.
>>29719380
Holy fuck.
>>29716659
Currently only have a Rossi 92 in 357mag. Wanting to sell it and then save for a Henry Big Boy Steel in 44mag.
I've got two Winchester 1894s made post 64. One a 94AE and the other a Canadian Centennial. The Canadian doesnt like PPU 30-30 and the cartridge lifter is kinda wonkey. I havent noticed any other brands giving me issues other then PPU. Could I changed out the Stamped lifter with a Milled one?
/k/ told me that the best calibers are 45-70 and .300 win, and I'm inclined to believe them.
Mossberg 464 wood stock version or Marlin 336, in .30-30 each?
The Mossberg costs about 200 bucks less, but is the quality acceptable?
>>29719492
>The Mossberg costs about 200 bucks less
Where are you getting those prices? I've seen Marlin 336 for around $400 so $200 less than that would be literally nugget tier prices.
>>29719492
I love my mossberg 802 international, 100 ATR, and 500. But I would avoid their leveractions. They are on the same level of shit as their .22 ARs.
>>29717760
>If the lever action doesn't have a side loading gate it's practically a deal breaker in my opinion.
Except the Henry's strike me as MUCH nicer rifles than the Marlins. I'll put up with the antiquated Henry loading for the superior workmanship and action (Henry's have a internal transfer bar safety, so they're safe to carry at half-cock without the annoying unergonomic cross bolt safety that the new Marlins have.
>>29719194
If you shoot 45-70 you really need to reload for it. Factory ammo costs a fortune and you can load hotter ammo safely in a modern gun. Most reloading guides have three separate sections: standard pressure for old guns & reproductions, hotter for modern lever actions, and then brutal killer magnum loads for Ruger single shots.
My buddy's got a Marlin 336 in 35 rem. The action is smoof as budduh. It's our improved pumpkin removal device. Things a Fucking blast to shoot. Expensive to feed.
I want one in 44 mag
>>29716659
There are three lever-action rifles I want.
>Marlin 1895SBL in .45-70 like the OP image
>Browning BLR in .308
>Marlin 336c in .30-30
I figure I'll start with the 336c and get used to handling lever actions before plunking down the cash for the bigger guns.
>>29720194
Improvised. Fucking phone.
only one i have, needed a pre-64 for the collection. i wouldnt mind one in 38 just to plink with
>>29719527
Europe, the Mossberg's 650 and the marlin 800-something
Overseas import prices. Winchester 94s sell for less here so I could go for one of those, but I want to be able to mount a scope and have a pistol grip.
Slide action is better in every single way, with all the same advantages.
>>29720735
That makes sense. I guess I assumed most people buying levergats are from North America.
My Marlin 1895GS and Ruger Super Blackhawk
>>29720735
I need a Winchester 1895 in my life.
>>29721553
My Grandfather's Winchester 94 he left me. Pre-64 at that.
After he moved from Germany and became a US citizen after World War 2, he bought this because he loved Westerns.
>>29716659
Sorry for the stupid question....but why no 9mm levergun?!?! hurrdurr pointed tips boom boom...so what, just use hollow points!
>>29721630
Because 9mm is objectively a shit.
>>29716659
This seems like a good place to ask.
Is there a bolt action chambered for 45-70? I want 45-70 but I cannot fucking stand how shitty leverguns are in terms of reliability, so I'd like a bolt gun in said caliber.
Can savage into leveraction too?
>>29722160
The only okay kind.
Box mags for the fucking WIN.
>>29722078
Only thing I find are converted SMLEs to 45-70.
>>29722188
Thanks man. That actually sounds even better than what I'd though would show up.
>>29719398
W-what if...
... What if you pulled the bullets on Buffalo Bore and Leverevolution rounds, and swapped them?
Like, I've been told BB is supposed to be really high quality ammo, now picture them with the spitzeresque ballistics of the Leverevolutions.
I know it's not magic, but wouldn't it be very nice to shoot?
>>29719436
Be advised that the Henry's have no loading gate on the receiver, you have to load up by the front of the magazine tube, it works, but not everyone likes that.
>>29722732
Leverevolution rounds have shorter non-standard casings because of the increased length of the spitzer point.
>>29719336
You can buy the bullets from those lever-whatever loads.
Go on midway, in the lever action calibers they are generally called FTXs.
>>29722188
Good luck not blowing up.
Google Siamese Mauser if you want a 45-60 bolt.
>>29716659
I got to use a Marlin 39A from the '50's a lot. It was a lot heavier than one would expect from a .22, but that thing was a fucking tack driver.
Even though you're lugging a 6 lb musket-length levergun around, you just know that thing will outlive your entire bloodline and be hanging inter over your great great great grandkid's fireplace.
>but uselessly, because your grandchild will snap the firing pin dryfiring the fucking thing like I did. Shoutout to MidwayUSA for carrying repro 60 year old antique rifle parts.
>>29719480
.357 is good as a light rifle cartridge, because the long barrel gives the bullet a nice boost, recoil is low, and ammunition is as plentiful as it is cheap (particularly the specials). They make fine deer guns.
.44 Mag and .45 Colt cost more, but they also appreciate the long barrel. These make more sense if you already have handguns in those calibers, or if you're doing Cowboy Action
>>29719380
It's a particularly heavy .45 caliber bullet chucked out at high velocities, they oughta fuck up most creatures in North America.
Different bullets should provide various fun results. I kinda wanna see what happens if you were to make Lehigh XTPs for that cartridge, the penetration would be flat out irresponsible.
OP here,
anyone got recommendations for some nice .44 mag ammo manufacturers? or should i reload like a 45-70?
Pic related, what i currently use
>>29722915
>XTP point on a 45-70
I'm pretty sure that counts as a small rocket.
>>29722160
Bill Ruger's favorite rifle, I heard a rumor that he converted one into an auto-loader.
>>29721630
Because you can already shoot .38 Specials in a .357 Magnum one, so you'd be looking at similar enough cost and performance.
>>29721665
Hey, you! Fuck you, alright?
>>29722979
Or a small cannon.
Could you stop a car with that? I mean, it's some pretty obscene penetrative characteristics we're considering here.
Or shit, even better, a crazy horse loaded .45-90 with an XTP, you'd need a strong action for that though.
>>29716659
How viable would a lever action be for home defense? And if so, what caliber? Pardon my ignorance.
>>29723152
i dont believe it would be any good, the gun is to long to cut corners with,
>>29722959
I have a .44 wheel gat
It's almost as expensive as 45-70. Personally, when I get the gear, I'm reloading it too.
But the American Eagle stuff is fun. I'm sitting on a box of HSM too, as well as Blazer.
Should I go with the 1895 GBL or SBL? I'm thinking my revolver (5" 460) is going to be stainless so I should probably do that as well...
>>29722959
I'd reload. .44 mag is stupid expensive, but if you reload the cases last a long time
>>29723293
i have a special place in my heart for grey(gray?) wooden furniture on fire arms, you may feel the same but i ould say SBL, and it comes with that Picc rail for scopes in case you wanna go to hell.
>>29723348
>>29723285
thanks you guys
>>29717721
I wanted to get a 45-70 but I'm a huge pussy and was afraid the recoil would hurt my shoulder or something. How does it feel?
>>29719361
I had no idea this was a thing. Thank you.
>>29723383
Kind of like shooting 3" Slugs.
If you're a man, you can handle it.
Want to be a bitch? They make really light cowboy action loads that's like shooting .223
>>29723383
Normal loads are fine, IMO. The lighter bullet loadings (i.e. 300gr) kick less. A lot depends on the gun. Some of the historic-style 45-70's have metal crescent buttplates and straight stocks, which look pretty but can be painful to shoot.
The real horror stories you hear about the 45-70 recoil usually involve the super magnum handloads that you can load in modern guns.
>>29720194
The 35 rem is a really cool cartridge. I wish Henry made one chambered in it. It's much better than the 30-30, and you can even handload them with .357 magnum bullets for small game.
>>29723383
Its really not bad, actually. The Hornady Leverevolution ammo surprised me a bit, but the Remington Core-Lokt and HSM cowboy ammo is a hoot to shoot. Not a whole lot of recoil, but enough to let you know you got some boom going on.
>>29716659
They're uk legal in any calibre so they're good
>>29723487
I have a 336RC in 35 rem, 1968 manufacture.
You can get old, good condition marlins at gun-shows for sub 500$ most of the time. Mine was $300 because the guy thought it was broken. Just needed a new hammer spring.
>>29723162
Next your going to tell me a handgun is best right. Well it is IMO but still. Also what is a mares leg.
>>29723595
mares leg is the baby version of a ever action its a pistol version basically
>>29723595
We have the same irons. Cheers anon
>>29723471
>Kind of like shooting 3" Slugs.
Oh okay. Only levergun I've ever shot was one of those Savage ones in .308 that had that rotary magazine in it and it was painful.
>>29723595
why the fuck do they line the cartridges horizontally along the strap? if they did it vertically like those shotgun belts you could hold way more.
>>29723692
3" slugs out of a 12g are going to be quite a bit worse than a non-semi-auto .308. In my experiences, even birdshot 12g kicks at least as much as a .308.
>>29723729
It was definitely more recoil than the .308, but it was more of a shove than a punch, if that makes any sense. The .308 pushed less but certainly hurt more.
>>29723750
True. Not to sound like a bitch, but my 308 bolt action ( <6lbs without the scope) was downright uncomfortable until I put a brake on it. Now it's like shooting a 5.56.
>>29723684
YHM bruhs 4 life.
>>29723709
Would i be correct to assume you carry extendos for all your handguns?
It's a 45-70 lever action. It only holds 4+1. It doesn't load that fast. I've never needed to fire more than 2. It's meant to be lightweight as possible for carrying long distances and quickly dispatching charging bears/moose/ whatever decides it wants to fuck my day up. If I need more than 9rds of 400gr fuck you. I am fighting a supernatural creature and am fucked anyways. Also I can carry more in my pack. And it is a very comfy sling.
>>29723777
What brake?
>>29719492
Sauce?
>>29723808
>for carrying long distances and quickly dispatching charging bears/moose/ whatever decides it wants to fuck my day up
>because I am absolutely sure the thousand pound murder machines will kindly stand out of my way after I use all five rounds
Shit nigga, you every time you miss is another bear that can potentially fuck you up on your walk home. Like, why would you even have a sling to hold extra ammo that is immediately reachable when you don't care about needing ammo in a time where it should be immediately reachable?
>>29723487
>metal crescent buttplates and straight stocks can be painful to shoot.
if it's too big or small for your shoulder maybe.
if it fits just right there's nothing more comfortable
>>29723811
Not him but I got a Lantac Dragon brake for my 308, and feels like shooting 223 lol.
>>29723846
I feel like your trying to communicate.
I can't make sense of your text but in response to your greentext I'm absolutely certain after I shoot it 5 times it's going to die.
>>29723383
the Winchester 1886 in the pic with its 24" octagon barrel is only a few ounces shy of ten pounds.
even with 430gr buffalo bore ammo it's very comfortable to shoot.
but then I haven't yet shot a long gun with such kick I'd call it uncomfortable.
>>29723901
>reading comprehension is hard
I'm talking about the possibility of multiple bears, not one big superbear
>>29716659
Does anybody make levergats with this color wood finish? Or will I basically have to commission a custom stock/make my own?
>>29724038
My Winchester Canadian Centennial's wood looks like that
>>29723925
Well considering the proper procedure for killing a bear in defense involves calling brown shirt troopers to come investigate. Which means more people, more guns, more noise, and a potential lift back to your truck. Unless I've got my hunting license they are open to hunt and I feel like cleaning the fucker.
> The possibility of multiple bears.
That is always a possibility but wandering the wilds of alaska and running into a bear isn't like wandering the streets of LA and getting accosted by homeless. Unless there's salmon swimming upstream you usually don't have a congregation of bears, and if they are fishing they arnt going to go off to chase a human unless you get stupidly close. Also most bears detect and avoid humans long before the human knows they are there.
You'd have to be statistically extremely unlucky to surprise more than one bear on a hike. Even one bear is a statistical stretch.
Also what part of "I can carry more in my pack" do you not understand.
Or wait. Do you think there are roving packs of bears that gang maul hikers? That's not how it works. Momma and cubs stay together until the cubs are mostly mature. Then for the most part they are solitary until it's time to fuck.
>>29723500
Core-Lokt is way to expensive to just shoot willy-nilly. I'm halfway through a box of Core-Lokt that I bought when I first got my Marlin.
Really, LeverEvoluton, HSM Bear Load, and Cowboy action is where it's at.
>>29718214
Now with extra-dangerous 7-round internagrated toob clipazines. They're internal, so you can't disarm your attacker by knocking his clipazine out of his assault rapid fire high-capacity shotgun.
Think of the children! Remember port arthur!
>>29724063
>being condescending makes my dick feel bigger
Fine, another bear, a couple moose, some wolves, a particularly large and aggressive beaver, doesn't fucking matter. Unless you planned on carrying a variety of weapons, that 45-70 is what you're using against everything. So if a bear and moose orgy went down and you needed to shoot, I don't know, six whole bullets or some ludicrous number it would be useful to keep more ammunition readily available. You think that the charging animal will politely wait while you sift through your trailmix and extra socks to get more ammo? That wolf pack will politely sit there and lick their dicks while you get ready because they're just really good sports about the whole thing? More ammo = better in literally every situation, quit being a contrarian faggot that can't admit he's wrong.
>>29719492
Seriously what is this gun and why is my dick suddenly diamonds?
>>29724175
> don't argue with me I'm sensitive you condescending jerk!
Your either a troll or a basement dweller. Good day sir.
>>29723560
That would be awesome, anon. I need to keep my eyes open for a deal like that.
>>29723860
>if it fits just right there's nothing more comfortable
Interesting, anon. That makes sense. Maybe if I try shaping a custom stock for one of my guns I should try to fit a crescent stock just right. That would be pretty cool.
>>29724200
>namecalling
Go eat a bag of rancid horse cocks, m'lady.
>>29724056
Based on google image search results, it looks a little too light for my taste. I want one that's a really deep, cherry red. Ideally with non-black finish on the metal. A pewter-ish color.
>>29724175
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? I know you are using English, but something about how you write makes it unpleasant to read.
From what I have gleaned, you do not go outside much. Let me do some 'splainin
Bears do not travel in packs. The actually really don't like each other.
Wolves can be scared off with a loud noise, aka one gunshot. Especially if you drop one. They aren't dumb enough to stick around.
Moose are also solitary.
>inb4 babbies, cubs, fawns
The kids won't attack you. Their instincts say to hide.
All the situations you are describing are fairy tale garbage. There is a reason that there isn't demand for guide rifles to hold more than a few bullets.
>tfw want levergun
>tfw no friends have levers and no ranges have them for rent
>don't want to buy something I can't shoot
>tfw will never get levergun
.30-30 Winchester cowboy gun does it for me
>>29724558
Whats ur areacode lil nigga?
Maybe a /k/omrade can hook you up.
>>29723349
That particular wood is a composite, and the gray/beige one you see there has been really popular on stainless guns for a while now, I think it looks really slick on older fashioned rifle types.
I think most stock and grip makers will do composite wood currently, so you should be able to get it for most guns.
>>29720129
You can't reload while walking, and you'd have a hard time reloading when standing too.
It's just not user friendly.
And Marlins have been known to have the strongest action of the leverguns, there are 45-70 specialty ammunitions that are only for use in the Ruger #1 and Marlin rifles made before a certain date.
>>29723448
You're welcome :3
Please tell other anons about it any time the subject of reloading comes up.
The Lee Classic Loaders are the best way to get people into reloading because you don't need a press or anything pricey.
And most times it'll pay for itself the first time you use it.
>>29724564
I have a .30-30 marlin. I love the thing but god damn is that shit expensive to shoot
>>29724691
See
>>29719361
They make Lee Classic Loaders in many different calibers, and IIRC like they make custom bullet molds they might make custom loaders... not sure, but I'm pretty sure they have one in 30-30.
It'll pay for itself the first time you use it.
>>29724752
I'll look into that
I got a deal on it used and I've only been able to put maybe 150 rounds through it but if I start shooting it more I'll look into reloading seriously
>>29724541
>I'm so smart that I know anything that will happen ever
I am saying that the more ammunition you have immediately available the better, and you continuously ignoring what I'm saying doesn't make it any less true.
>hurr hurr it's hard to read so I'll just sidestep your argument like a faggot
>>29724964
Not who you're responding to, but you'll never find yourself in a situation in the wild where you need more than 5 rounds of hot .45-70 in a single backpacking trip.
I'm assuming that particular sling had the boolits aligned that way so they weren't poking out and made it easier to manage. But if you'd like to continue on your tirade of shit throwing, be my guest.
>>29724869
Even if you only shoot 150 more through it, the Lee Loader will pay for itself in spades from reloading the 150 cases you have lying around.
>>29725234
Never say never friend.
>>29725234
I'm the first guy stupid enough to respond to him. The sling is very comfy. I think he's just a troll parodying the "I hate revolverfags, im practicing for tactical situations involving 17+ attackers and multiple witty one liners"
>>29725234
I beg to differ. You never knew when dinosaurs will return to reclaim the earth.
And someone post the .gif of the apocalypse of raining bears.
Better safe than sorry.
>>29724964
>addressed the main "points"
>sidestepping
This is beginning to feel like bait.
>>29725358
Not trolling, just think it's dumb as shit to have a sling for holding ammo that only holds four rounds, especially with all that wasted space.
>>29725387
Have you considered that perhaps you wouldn't want to have 15+ rounds of .45-70 on it? The sling in itself serves a purpose besides holding ammo.
>>29725580
My car has a purpose other than storage space, doesn't mean I want to forego a trunk.
>>29725641
Driving a car. Trunk not a bed. What's a faggy little city boy like you doing on a leveraction thread talking about shit you know nothing about?
>>29725641
You have a car? Why would you have a car? The trunk is tiny and can barely hold anything. You should have got a truck; you can actually fit a decent amount of stuff in there.
I have a trio of Marlins, an 1894 made in 1973,.44 Magnum with a saddle ring and no crossbolt safety.
And a pair of 1895's, a stainless Guide Gun and a Cowboy model.
>>29725672
>>29725676
Because I get 40 mpg and apparently don't give into peer pressure as easily as you.
>better buy a truck so all my friends won't call me gay
>>29724588
in ABQ near RR.
any ABQbros wanna go to calibers or some shit I'm down.
>>29719336
>would it load, cycle and safely fire .40S&W?
Unless the extractor holds it in place I don't think so. Send the guys an email and check out their 10mm 1894 and .44ripsaw
http://www.rangerpointprecision.com/
>>29719361
I will be keeping one of these in mind if I ever start shooting .45-70.
>>29722078
>I cannot fucking stand how shitty leverguns are in terms of reliability
Unless you plan on going Verdun2.0 then you're just being a faggot
>>29725758
If I wasnt at work,
I'd be down
>>29716659
>:
218 Bee, in a 90's Marlin 1894CL. Fun rabbit rifle.
>>29722898
I swear Marlin just used underbored 30-30 barrels on the 39. Those things are practically bull barrels but I wouldn't trade mine for anything
>>29723846
Thats what buttstock cartridge holders are for little Susie. Have you ever tried to quickly reload anything from a sling?
>>29725916
They make them for a whole bunch of calibers.
And for almost all of them, one or two boxes of ammo will pay for it.
For expensive ammo one box is more than enough.
>>29726279
The rifle I was referring to didn't have one on it, you smug cunt
>>29723925
Luckily real life isn't the red dead redemption fur trappers cabin
>>29724038
a lot of rossi 92s come that color, only problem is huehue taurus
Is it true marlingtons QC is getting better?
>>29722078
Modern lever guns are quite reliable if it's not south american. I understand you think that's why they weren't adopted in WW1 90 years ago. It was also the fact that most nations we're using high velocity .30ish caliber rounds on rifles with sights that adjust out to 1000 meters. Could you imagine just how fucking tall a ladder sight would be for a .45 colt, .45-70, or .38 variety. We wanted to be on par with other nations we were fighting. Not have a slightly increased ROF.
>>29716659
So I'm completely new to the idea of lever actions. I never really wanted one until recently.
What is the best caliber for hunting elk?
What are the good and bad manufacturers?
>>29726311
And the primary function of a sling is to help carry the rifle, not store ammo. As such it will be on your shoulder and any ammo it carries is a bonus, which you don't want digging in. Using slings as bandoliers sucks dick all the way around. If these sleight of hand reloads we're a real issue for the guy he would probably have a cartridge carrier, cartridge belt or fucking .450 bushmaster. Stop trying to justify unrealistic hypotheticals
>>29726587
>buys a sling that holds four rounds
>someone comments that if you're going to use your sling for ammo it might as well hold more than four rounds because there's no real reason not too
>YEAH WELL USING SLINGS FOR AMMO IS DUMB ANYWAY
For the last fucking time, I am saying that more ammo immediately reachable is better. I don't give a fuck if he puts it in a sling, bandolier, or stores it in his fucking asshole, just fully utilize whatever you're using.
You. Daft. Cunt.
>>29726511
190gr 30-30 is you minimum for elk. WINCHESTER, Marlin, Browning and Henry will be you're realistic choices. The Browning BLR is the best bet all the way around. Very accurate for a lever action, drilled and tapped, box fed, plenty of suitable calibers and take down models. Don't really have to worry about getting a bad one either. Unless you want something more traditional.
>>29726666
>buys a $20 sling with cartridge slots, like every other sling with slots
>some fag complains it doesn't hold 20 rounds
>doesn't understand why turning a strap into a 2" wide block of metal embedded into your shoulder/handing from the front of a lever gun is silly.
>>29726511
Depends on your terrain, what calibers will be good for elk.
Rossi is cheap garbage, but fun.
Henry is still cheap, and not as garbo.
Marlin, Winchester, Savage M99s, and browning rifles will not let you down.
>>29726782
>more ammo is silly
howdy Elmer, ever catch Bugs?
>>29726821
>not understanding there are good ways and shitty ways to do things.
The isn't a person on /k/ that would say that more ammo isn't a good thing. But would you like to carry that extra ammo clenched between your ass cheeks?
>>29726983
If I had no other option, yes. If I had already committed to buying a sling that holds ammo, what would be the point in actively choosing the one that holds less ammo?
>>29727031
Jesus Christ anon, where do we even start on this. Fist off, in this context of this conversation which you started by referencing a specific anon. Why are you presuming that anon set out specifically to buy a sling that would hold ammo as opposed to the fact that those Butler creeks and most cartridge carrying slings like it (carrying 4-6 rounds) are available just about anywhere that carries slings.maybe it's just what he had. Now for your end why would you set out to choose a slings for it's ammo capacity and not it's qualifications as a sling if your focus is clearly on ammunition, especially when better options exist.
Why would you want a more rigid surface in your shoulder, more weight hanging from the barrel band of a lever gun of all things, and how do you fathom that having ammo on the sling is even the best method for that quick reload for this killer bear firefight. I know you're super invested in this idea for whatever reason, but what I don't get is why. Its like you're trying to justify the best option of the shitty options. Like a game of "would you rather" where all the questions involve pine cones and assholes..
>>29727297
>maybe it's just what he had
If the place you go only has stuff you don't want, you buy somewhere else.
>why would you set out to choose a slings for it's ammo capacity and not it's qualifications as a sling if your focus is clearly on ammunition
Qualifications as a sling? I have fucking rope lying around that has qualifications as a sling. I could use shoelaces if I wanted to. It's a sling.
>Why would you want a more rigid surface in your shoulder, more weight hanging from the barrel band of a lever gun of all things
It's not that I want it, it's that I can hold up an extra pound or so of weight if need be.
>and how do you fathom that having ammo on the sling is even the best method for that quick reload for this killer bear firefight
It's not, but it's far superior to the original idea of searching through a backpack
>you're super invested in this idea for whatever reason
I'm not. It's just that a myriad of retards all want to chime in with their various philosophies on how cartridges are too heavy or slings have to be extra super comfy or whatever.
>>29727439
>20 rounds
This some cowboy SHTF dream rifle?
Try a belt pouch with some ammo. Shotgun ammo pouch should work swimmingly
>>29727522
I'm the origional anon he was "arguing" with. Just leave him be in his idiotic world. If he ever leaves his basement much less goes on a hike without suffering major cardiac arrest he will learn.
>>29727665
>I called him fat so I win
dohoho you sure showed me
>>29727522
For the hyperbolillionth time, I am saying that any ammunition holder should be fully utilized. A belt pouch would also work well.
Holy fucks sakes niggers, why you fighting so much?
>>29727439
>If the place you go only has stuff you don't want, you buy somewhere else.
Unless thats not a viable option. Or maybe there wasn't time or maybe he already had it. But chances are he found or perfectly adequate since if elastic cartridge sleeves are just as available if capacity were the issue
>I have fucking rope lying around
Which wouldn't hold ammo though that seems to be your issue.luckily in this developed country to focus will be on comfortably retaining the rifle.
>It's not that I want it, it's that I can hold up an extra pound or so of weight if need be.
So can everyone else, but most people would agree that having more of it in a less detrimental location on the gun or on the person is better.
>It's not, but it's far superior to the original idea of searching through a backpack
Which in itself would be a non-issue given the usage of the gun in the first place,making the extra four rounds a luxury anyway, and therefor adequate.
>I'm not.
That explains all the posts then.
And as for your earlier post of if you had no other choice,wtf was the point of saying that then following it with another choice? The owner was perfectly comfortable with it yet you still went into some wild ass scenarios to defend the statement that could have been resolved by anyone with pockets
>>29727750
Fudds think cartridges are too heavy and whine incessantly when I suggest they hold more.
>>29727767
I win this argument
>>29727665
>less goes on a hike without suffering major cardiac arrest
Sick burn bro
>>29727711
> skinny people that are inactive could never have heart problems.
Projecting much fatso?
>>29725746
> 40mpg.
Lol so it's not even a fast or cool car. Just some hunk of shit 4 banger from the early 90s. I'm sorry to hear that. And I guess if you mean peer pressure as in I want to go out and explore the wilderness with my friends than yes. I bought a 15K 4 wheel drive Truck out of peer pressure. Oh and here's something funny. I also own a 2 wheel drive 96 tacoma that gets about 28mpg. If I'm concerned about economy I will drive that.
>>29727439
It's called meeting in the sweet middle spot between completely useless garbage and having a basic sling. THE PRIMARY AMMO CARRIER IS THE MAGAZINE AND CHAMBER. Everything after that is wishful thinking.
>get charged by bear.
> fire 3 shots and kill the bear.
> I then have ammo right there to reload.
I'm not worried about the bears 5 homies and the west side moose gang showing up to kill me. Do you not understand how real life works?
>>29727750
He's a faggot and I'm bored. If anyone has serious things to discuss please post them.
>>29727839
And all that shit aside.
I bought the sling because it was comfortable and on sale. Fucking sue me I didn't ask the mall ninja gods what they would have me do.
Fudds are the guys that grew up doing physical labor, carried full size wood and steel 8+lb rifles through the woods and had to get by before the internet. Form a better argument. This 28" barrelled 10+1 monstrocity is a pretty good indicator why extra weight is shit.
>>29727787
Yeah a bet you were the guy that had special armor when the other kids pointed a stick at you and proclaimed "bang! I got you"
Sounds like you're just out of shit to me
>>29716659
I am thinking i am gonna get one with my tax returns. Were can i get a 44-70, a 357 or a 44 for under $500?
>>29727995
http://www.wholesalehunter.com/product.asp?productid=75124
>>29727989
Unless your goal is capacity over innawoods function. Like competition.
>>29728407
Why else would I put a 14" extension on the ulti-mag. Cheap practice until I can get my shit together. Until a acquire a 1301 and he the AR built its a good stand in. Horrible in the woods and hallways though.
>>29716659 (OP)
>newfag, which gun dis?
>>29729414
Marlin 1895 sbl
>>29725234
Shows what you fucking know, what if I run into a Deathclaw or Caesar's Legion?
Damn well better bring reloads for that.
>>29726511
.45-70 or .300WinMag should do very nicely.
You COULD use .30-30, it's on the weak side for this, some countries don't even allow you to do this even with handloads.
>>29727439
>It's not, but it's far superior to the original idea of searching through a backpack
I guess? But honestly, you're better off carrying the spare ammo in a bandolier across your chest, not only is it much easier to handle than tryin to reload from a sling, it looks cooler.
That way, you also don't have extra weight on your sling, and the weight is very easily distributed across your chest, out of the when you don't need it, while being always accessible.
>>29727989
>Fudds are the guys that grew up doing physical labor, carried full size wood and steel 8+lb rifles through the woods and had to get by before the internet.
No, that's not what means.
Lots of fudds are younger than you, by the way.
What are some Lever actions that are chambered in modern cartridges?
>>29730532
define modern cartridge.
is .357 magnum good?
>>29730600
How about .308. I was looking at the BLR, but only a 4 round magazine is kinda sad.
is there a Lever gun, say, in a .308 or .30-06 or say, 5.56 with a 10 rounder magazine?
>>29730632
There is a savage in .308
>>29730667
how many cartridges does it hold?
>>29730671
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-178084.html
5 in rotary, but it also has removable mags.
>>29730719
Fuck it, I think I will just get a FAL, or an AR-10.
>>29730459
I'm well aware of what fudd actually means, no matter how hard anons try to use it as a generic insult like cuck. Yeah I overreached a bit, but by nature they aren't the guys rooting for Lightweight ARs. Just got irritated that anon wasn't grasping the idea of bad weight, especially when most rifles in woods configuration are within a pound or two of each other anyway.
>>29730532
Define modern.
The Browning BLR will cover your Rimless spitzer flinging centerfires as will the Henry long ranger . Marlins .444, .450 and MX line are relatively recent developments.
>>29730737
I mean you could, but it's not a sexy lever action.
>>29730792
When I mean modern, is a rifle that has a detachable magazine that holds more than 4 rounds, that chambers readily available spitzer cartridges. I don't what some obscure ammo that I would have to pay out the ass for.
>>29730737
>want lever gun
>get battle rifle
>>29730887
I think what he wants is something with modern fullsize rifle power, and better magazine options, with a preference for lever action if available.
>>29730914
This, If only lever actions were adopted by the military in a earlier stage.
>>29730837
By design, due to the lever throw, getting more than that 4 rounds is kinda a bitch. I haven't seen any factory offerings but there have been some custom modified BLRs. Question is why though.
>>29730970
Just to see if it exists and possibly get it as a range toy, I just love the lever action. I just want to do more levering and less loading.
>>29730887
Battle rifles are cool too.
>>29730987
If you want to shoot a lot between reloads a .357 rifle with a full-length tube should hold 11+1 rounds. If you were to load it with .38 Special wadcutters, or old .38S&W or .38/200 cartridges you might be able to fit an extra one, not sure (though I can't speak for feeding).
A .22LR rifle can load a silly amount of .22 Shorts, I think with a full length tube you can be looking at 18 or 20 rounds, with no recoil and no need for earpro.
Otherwise, Ruger makes a rifle that's basically the 10/22, but operating on a lever-action, it takes 10/22 mags, so BX-25s should work, one of those Black Dog drums, or the "teardrop" mags, might fit too.
>>29731073
How is the ballistics on the .357 ones?
>>29730987
Well in that case you should take it upon yourself to have a Winchester 1873 done up with a .45acp short stoke conversion that somehow accepts Thompson drums.
Idk how the fuck it's going to feed, but if that doesn't work it's time to go belt-fed. Like a reverse potato digger that's come full circle
>>29731115
They're not battle-rifles by any means, but they're certainly not without power, the lack of cylinder gap, as well as the much longer barrel, REALLY gives the cartridgde a boost over shooting it through a revolver, using Leverevolution ammo, you can increase your performance (penetration, accuracy, range), giving you the characteristics of a Spitzer style bullet, without the risks of using Spitzers in a tube magazine.
It's kind of like an M1 Carbine, similar good shorter range performance (about 200yds max) and recoil (very soft).
It's also really cheap, .38 Special and .357 Magnum is everywhere, with economical brands left and right.
A good hunting load (Leverevolution or not), should handle any smaller game, as well as deer, and if shit goes down, the rifle is capable of killing an attacking person, .357 is renowned as a good "manstopper", and the rifles are fast to cycle, and can be had with decently long magazines
Reasons like these is why .357 is a very good entrylevel choice for people who want to get into lever-actions.
Finally, and this is really just a niche thing, but .38 Special is subsonic in most loadings, so if you want to put a silencer on it, you can, and it will be hearing safe, if you like that sort of novelty.
>>29731160
That would be crunk as hell to see.
Stickmags would be easier and cheaper though, Tommygun drums are expensive and finicky (especially the 100rd ones)
>>29731203
The whole spitzer in a tube mag is massively overblown fwiw. Between rimmed cartridges, case taper and the first round engages the follower the risk minimal without very specific ammunition. And with the right ammo a hot .357 will shit on the hopes and dreams of the .30 carbine.
>>29723595
A mare's leg is a lever-action that got chopped down on either end to save space - a fuck-huge leg holster can handle one, though, which is why they exist. It held more ammo than a revolver, but was slightly more unwieldy.
>>29731274
>a hot .357 will shit on the hopes and dreams of the .30 carbine
True, but the carbine has the advantage of being self-loading and using very compact detachable magazines.
>>29731571
You almost speak as if the Mare's Leg was a thing people did back in the day, when it was really just made up for a TV show in the 50s or 60s (as an SBR) and didn't see any standard manufacturing (as a pistol) for years to come.
>>29730914
That's called an 1895 with a box mag chambered in 7.62x54r aka "the levernugget", but they were only made briefly for Imperial Russia. They're rare as shit and the survivors go for like $4000.
>>29717863
What?! Who?!
>>29731571
The 1873 Winchester holds 15 rounds and makes a great rifle.
A Colt Peacemaker holds 6 rounds and makes a great pistol.
A mare's leg holds 5. Just 5. And it makes a shitty rifle and a shitty pistol. And it was carried by notable Old West cowboy Steve McQueen on a TV show.
You're fucking stupid.
>>29726467
Nope. Bad personal experiences with them jamming like fucking toast.
>>29731833
And this is a lever action thread so...
>>29732845
According to /k/ you would swear they we're never made for anything but x54r. Every goddamn time.
>>29732885
Short stroke conversions are nothing new. The .45auto ones came up due to wild bunch rules which also allows for 1911s. Everything else is just "because we can" and it's an extension of the idea of a pistol and carbine using the same ammo.
>>29733070
To be fair up until recently the SAA we're effectively 5 rounds for safety reasons. Only thing mares legs have going for them is cool factor and the extra velocity.
AWA Lightening Bolts are sweet though.
>>29733475
I wish there were more pump-action mare's legs, it strikes me as a badass idea.
>>29732845
They were made in many different calibers, it's the Russian military contract ones that are rare.
I think there are commercial ones in .30-06
>>29733475
Actually, you'd have two points of contact with a Mare's Leg, in a big cartridge you could conceivably handle rapid fire easier, with a reduction in flip.
I'm thinking, if you made a Mare's Leg in .44 or .454, that's pump operated, featuring a strap on the pump for better grip, has a muzzle brake, a pistol grip of some sort, no trigger disconnect so you can slamfire it, and a laser sight for point shooting, it could have -some- advantages over a revolver.
It'd almost be like a babby slug shotgun.
>>29723613
>>29731571
Oh I wasn't seriously asking. It was referring to the anon saying leveractions are to long for home defense. Just showing they come in all sizes.
>>29724147
I JUST ONT UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIRE THAT MANY ROUNDS IN SUCCESSION LIKE THAT
ITS NOT LIKE 99% OF OTHER FIREARMS ON AN AB LICENSE CAN HOLD AROUND THE SAME
THE ADLER IS DIFFERENT
DIFFERENT I TELL YOU
>>29734960
> it'd almost be like a heap mall ninja garbage.
>>29734907
Commercial 1895 were made for a lot of years in a lot of calibers. Everything from 30-40 krag to 405 Winchester. They are super annoying to load though.
I won't lie. I get pretty hard when I think about 1895s in 405 though.
>pic not related, Win 1873 in 38-40.
Are there any 375H&H lever actions?
How do i buy pic related?
The (recently updated) Winchester site claims they're still currently produced but i cant find one (new or used) on gunbroker, at gunshows, at any LGS, or at any of the "official winchester dealers" like cabelas or bass pro.
>http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-1886/model-1886s-in-current-production/model-1886-short-rifle.html
i was ready to pay MSRP and just buy straight from winchester but that doesnt seem to be an option.
Anyone out there know how i can get my hands on one? Realy want one now that theyre at least made by FNH and not japs anymore.
>>29717676
we fallout 3 now?
Total noob to levers here; was considering one as a hiking/camping/anti-bear/skinwalker gun, but I'm also considering an M305. What advantages would a lever give me over one of those, besides weight?
>And sex appeal
>>29716659
are Octagonal barrels (Henry Rifles) merely comedic?
>>29739656
Superior fuddsmanship
>>29739656
theres nothing funny about firearms, sonny.
>cosmetic
>>29739697
>>29739699
thinking of getting a Henry rifle, in .357.
want to get a top rail for optics, maybe bottom rail for Bipod or TacLight.
>>29734960
It would have zero advantages over a revolver especially the like of TRR8 and ESPECIALLY if you want to slam fire it. I'm a big fan of mares legs, but I have no delusions surrounding them
>>29739834
>Optics
No son just get peep sights.
>>29739614
A smaller handier gun mostly. idk if you've every handled one but you may want to give it a try. Depending on the caliber you want lever guns run from .22s for plinking, pistol cartridges for better capacity and ammo price with the bonus of extra velocity to box fed .308s and full on bone crushing bear thumping .444 and. 45-70.
Some of them come in take down form as well so you can stow em in your pack.
>>29739614
If your only worried about black bears, .357 would do the trick. If your in brown territory, lightest I'd go is .44 mag with hot rifle loads. But .450 marlin, .444 marlin, and 45-70 would be a good range.
Not a whole lot of advantages over a semi auto .308. Weight being a the major advantage. Open buckhorn style sights are usually faster than peep sights to line up. Of course that only helps your first shot as working the lever fast takes some practice to get right without loosing sight profile. With a good caliber you can deliver alot more energy than a .308.
And one could argue manual actions are less failure prone than semi autos, but that usually depends on the quality of either rifle and quality of ammo.
Weight is the biggest factor. If it's going to be going on week long trips into the brush and up mountains get a levergun. If it's the occasional trip to the local camp ground in the hills get the m305 it'll kill a bear if needed but be funner for plinking and shit. Plus .308 is cheaper than most good brown bear killers.
>>29739834
Mossberg makes a 30-30 all tacticooled to shit. Even has an adjustable butt stock
>>29741370
Where do the various bolt actions fall on your radar?
>>29736453
Can't it just be a fun gun?
>>29739932
I guess, but isn't the TRR8 just an 8 shot .357?
My idea would be for .44 or .454, with a magazine for maybe 5 or 6 rounds. Although I guess then at that length it might as well be made into a rifle with a proper stock and then a vertical foregrip, slamfiring or not.
>>29736480
Can you still find .30-40 Krag commercially?
I know Sellier & Bellot make loadings for some obsolete rifle cartridges, and Fiocchi makes loadings for obsolete revolver and pistol cartridges.
>>29736680
If not, there should be.
For fun (and Spitzer reasons), it should be like the 1895 Winchester, so you can load the cartridges straight down into a five round fixed magazine.
Maybe even make it with a stripper clip guide and ship it with a bunch of classy brass clips to load your .375 onto.
Or fuck, just size up a Browning BLR accordingly, that works too.
>>29741370
.357 should be enough for black bear, but the thing is that black bears are so fucking timid and cowardly that I seriously doubt you'd ever have to shoot one.
If you stomp on the ground repeatedly and holler loudly like a retard in front of a black bear, he's gonna do a 360 and quickly moonwalk away. They might sometimes bluff charge you (and this is when a black bear usually gets shot), but it's a bluff, and if you call his bluff, he has no plan after that and stops dead in his tracks, at this point (or before he's stopped his bluff charge), you'll sternly shout at him "SHOOO! Go home you dumb bear!" and he'll panic and bolt.
It has the strength to maul you, but not the balls.
The one exception is when it comes to a mother and her cubbs, a black bear will actually display courage and aggression if she thinks you're a threat to them.
>>29742042
A modern bolt action makes for a good hunting rifle. There are a few "scout" or carbine length bolt actions in respectable bear calibers. But without serious practice expect a much slower rate of fire.
There are some that are light as if not lighter than your average levergun. So something like the savage model 11 scout would be worthwhile to look at.
If your talking milsurp bolt actions as your primary bear remover. I'd only go for that if it's the best you can afford. 8mm mauser would fuck a bear up at close range. But you better have it out and ready in time to hit him on your first shot.
>>29742464
Yeah black bears are a generally pussys. For awhile I only carried a Blackhawk .357 with a 7" barrel when black bear stalking. Never had the need to use it though. They generally skiddered off when I got too close.
>>29716659
where can i buy aftermarket polymer stocks with no stupid rails and shit to replace my wood.
I'm a faggot who really likes the stanless/polymer look.
As someone who certainly appreciates classic cowboy guns and quality firearms, my dad bought me a Rossi stainless model 94 in .357 for my birthday. Knowing rossi has a spotty rep, I was expecting it to work but not be all that great. Boy was i wrong. Thing has a butter smooth action and was dead on out of the box. I love it and cant wait to teach my boy to shoot on it. Hopefully it'll hold up, ive only got about a hundred rounds of .38 thru it at this point so well see. Also I grew up shooting my dad's Henry golden boy in .22lr and his winchester in .45 colt so I do have a little bit of experience with other makes. I was impressed. My dad had a Rossi in the 90s that he sold, and swears it had a better action than his winchester. He regrets selling it.
>>29719445
No you don't hahahaahaahaahahaahahajah
>>29721563
That is a shit gun...
... My dude
>>29742627
Soft metals usually work smoothly until they break.
>>29742548
>>29741370
I feel slide action rifles are potentially the best. But most people don't know they exist.
>>29742591
I think Henry are making theit big bore rifles in stainless with plain black plastic furniture, though they have no loading gates, and must be loaded at the front of the mag tube.
Otherwise, I guess you could look for some custom outfitter who works in plastic and ask if they'd be willing to make a plain plastic stockset for whatever Winchester or Marlin that you have. Possibly mailing them the stock and fore-end so they can make a casting of their shape.
>>29739834
>thinking of getting a Henry rifle, in .357.
Not a bad choice.
>want to get a top rail for optics,
Fair enough, but if you're gonna get a scope, there's proper scope rings.
Some people like to put Aimpoints and other red dots on stuff like .44 Mag Marlin rifles, because they find that practical (I know of a Swede who has just this as his hog gun), and I can see why.
>maybe bottom rail
What are you doing
>for Bipod
I see a few issues here, for one, cycling a lever gun while prone is a bit awkward.
Secondly, I know of no rail mounts for the Henry levergat besides possibly a receiver rail, if you have to mount a bipod on one, it'd be easier to work up some kind of mount for putting it on the mag tube, but here comes the issue of the Henry, you reload it at the front from the opening in the mag tube, this is gonna be an awkward-ass rig.
>or TacLight.
Wha-
Are you gonna fucking room clear with this shit?
A Henry levergun, or any levergun, is not what you're looking for here, an AR-15, AK or Mini-14 is MUCH more practical and fit for the purposes you're looking for, while offering 30rd detachable magazines standard.
Get a Smith & Wesson M&P-15, get an MLok handguard or a MagPul handguard with a length of rail on the bottom front, put the bipod on here, and then a light mount that goes onto the bayonet lug, put the light here. The optic goes on the top rail of the receiver.
There, you have a rifle that does what you want it to do, without being an awkward and ill conceived contraption made from an antiquated lever-gun.
>>29730970
In before bullpup lever action with a box mag in the stock.
>>29721630
Honestly not sure. It might be because of the rimless cartridge, or that there are tons of 9mm carbine options. Lever guns chambered in handgun calibers are mostly in rimmed revolver calibers that aren't chambered in semiautomatic carbines.
>>29722959
If you're not reloading, you best option for inexpensive but good is PPU. Their 240 grain is pretty hot. Listed velocity is 1440 fps at 1105 ft lbs. I assume that's from a 10" invented test barrel. Cost is right at $30 for a box of 50.
>>29741370
>And one could argue manual actions are less failure prone than semi autos
Semis are like escalaters, not elevators, even when they don't run on their own it becomes a manual action straight pull.
>>29742591
Knowing the actual model of your gun would help. not that Google is difficult to use. Don't expect to find any great options though
>>29743061
Most people would agree, but the options are painfully limited and the Remington's never had a stellar so it's pretty much all lightening clones or weird AK/ARbominations
>>29730987
The Marlin 39A can hold 19+1 .22lr and 27+1 .22 Short cartridges. The 1894 in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum or .45 Colt are 10+1. The round count drips off a lot for Spitzer cartridge guns since the feed from a box magazine.
>>29730927
Russia adopted the Winchester 1895 in 7.62x54r to make up shortfalls in manufacturing the Mosin Nagant. The Lever Nugget takes standard 7.62x54r stripper clips and is th e most produced version of the 1895 Winchester. A large number of them saw service in WWI. They were withdrawn from service by the Soviets and a large number were reimported in the 1960s
I just bought a new Henry in .357 for $662, did I do good?
>>29748582
You've joined the ranks of levergat owners. That's always good.
>>29745793
So you're telling me we need a semi that cocks like a pump or lever action, so that it stays effective if it expierences some malfunctions.
What are the ballistics like for a .357 Magnum in a Marlin 1894C? If it's good out to 100 yards or so that's probably all the range I need considering the terrain I live in (hills, mountains, dense temperate rainforests).
>>29750591
Indeed, fuck all this charging handle bullshit. I need a Benelli M3 in rifle form.
>>29751949
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
>>29749550
Amen to that.
Semi autos are fun and definitely my first choice for self defense, but there's just something about levergats...they're just satisfying
If you were going to go boar hunting with a levergun, what's the smallest round you would want to take, would .357mag be fine or would you need something beefier?
>>29753972
.357 with heavy hunting bullets would work, but I think many hog hunters would recommend a .44 magnum instead. Hogs are tough and will sometimes charge a hunter.
>>29750591
>semi that cocks with a pump-slide
I'm pretty sure Ian showed something like that
>>29752027
So the Bennelli MR-1?
>>29753972
With some really stout loads and good marksmanship, but personally, the only .357 I'd be comfortable hunting/fighting hog with would be .357 Maximum
>>29753972
.30-30 would be my go to.
>>29755793
I said M3 rifle, not a scaled up Cx4 that nobody likes. We're talking semi-auto with a pump action mode. Troy MPAR would be an OK starting point. Of those awful side charger handles that connect to the standard charging handle...eck
>>29755784
Versa max?
