You know, when you got an army to arm but you don't have quite enough modern gadgets so you arm some guys with leftover stuff from previous wars.
This thread is dedicated to that. Pictured here, a group of British soldiers in WW2, armed with spears (made out of pipes with old bayonets welded onto them).
>>29680159
hahaha spears? no wonder they lost both world wars xDD
>>29682505
the British won both wars you uneducated idiot
>>29682522
they sure did, even though america had to jump in both times and save them
>>29680159
I'm going to hazard a guess that they were for bayonet practice and not a Nip 'fight to the last man, woman and child' strategy
>>29682544
America wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for the brits and feench so that seems like a fair deal to me.
>>29682565
"By late 1940, the Home Guard had amassed 847,000 rifles, 47,000 shotguns and 49,000 machine guns of various kinds. However, as there were more than 1,682,000 volunteers at the time, this meant that 739,000 men were without a weapon. There was little improvement in June 1941 when Churchill wrote to the War Office saying that "every man must have a weapon of some sort, be it only a mace or a pike." The civil servants took Churchill at his word and ordered 250,000 pikes from the Ministry of Aircraft Production, each consisting of a long steel tube with an obsolete bayonet welded to the end."
>>29682580
Christ, wonder if he was being sarcastic and they just took him at his word.
Curious as to where they got the shotguns from and what they were. Old lend lease winchesters from WW I or just a hardware store double barrel.
>>29682681
>Curious as to where they got the shotguns from and what they were.
Shotguns were common as fuck back then and there were loads of companies in the UK that made them for generations prior to WW2, there would have been lots of farm tier double barrel guns around.
I think there were pretty much unregulated, or if there was regulation it was like going to the local post office and buying a little slip of paper to keep in your wallet.
You can see pics of fighters in africa using WW2 equipment to this day, sometimes even older relics from WW1, stuff so valuable that could buy their boat ticket to yurop if they could find the right buyer. I think I saw a nig once with a Gewehr98, not even the karabiner.
>>29683905
>G98
>so valuable
Kek
>>29680159
Some marines still use the m16.
![140610-F-NJ944-119[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NDeOuZ6.jpg "140610-F-NJ944-119[1].jpg")
>>29684870
>>29684947
>hey guys am I cool yet XDDDD
>>29682580
>steel hafted spears with bayonets welded on as heads
That's... actually not a bad way to make a spear. Hmm.
>>29684947
General Welsh get back to work.
>>29682681
Churchill was being poetic. But I read the guy who ordered the construction of the pikes legitimately thought they were a good idea, because something along the lines of 'no guns, so might as well something'.
>>29684491
>500 dollarydoos in shitville, africa is not a lot of money
>TB-3
pretty bizarre design and uses if you ask me
kind of cool though
>>29687639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzMb_ue4aG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEFsdZSEjiU
Let the butthurt commence
>>29685173
Haha. Very funny and edgy.
That being said there are better options around but replacing all the M4s is going to be expensive. Not to even speak about the logistic nightmare that is going to be.
>>29687653
What's there to be butthurt about? The m14 is outdated.
They should at least ebr it.
>>29687697
>M4
It's hard to tell the difference visually but that most likely is a Colt M650/651/652/653/653P/654 M16A1 Carbine, Colt M720/721/722/723/725/725A/725B/726/727/728 M16A2 Carbine, or GUA-5/A or GUA-5A/A with cylindrical handguard
>>29687758
Even with the Sage EBR its outdated
>>29687902
I dunno why somebody wouldn't just get a ar10 at this point
>>29687639
fukkin vatniks
>>29689226
The AR10 was worse by every single measure save mag capacity until like five years ago.
>>29687058
They could have made tumberas & pipebombs instead.
I have a few examples of out dated body armor being used. Heres the national guard using veitnam era flak jackets in 1992 even though PASGT vest had been available for while at that point
>>29691266
Heres some ranger body armor from the early 90s being used last year
>>29691395
Also used in the early iraq days
>>29680159
It can move, has a gun and can resist small arms fire.
Good enough.
The T-54/55 deserves mention, a 60 year old design that is still a presence on virtually every battlefield.
Found it! Heres a guy stuck having to use chicken plate armor from the 60s during the invasion of Iraq
>>29682544
Hadn't the brits managed to keep the germans out, there wouldn't be any chance whatsoever that any burger would have even set foot on yuro soil.
Team effort.
>>29691563
Steyr-Mannlicher Model 1888?
>tfw the Kaiser gives you your Grandfather's Mauser
>>29680159
bro thats a little more than a few wars old lmfao
>>29691657
Get on my level! I outlived the Tiger, I outlived the S-Tank, and I'm gonna outlive you!
>>29691964
When was the last recorded use of FT-17 in combat?
>>29692520
Unless one of the captured/found FT tanks were used against our boys in 2001, then either the Afghan Civil War or the Soviet-Afghan war before it.
unless some africans still have one
>>29691765
Yes
>>29691780
Think it might be an 1886 even.
>>29692633
>you will never be an african warlord in your FT-17 gunning down defenseless villagers
I don't know what keeps me going
>>29687639
Didnt the soviets just dropped soldiers without parachuts from low flying planes when they invaded Finland? The idea was that snow would be soft enough, but they stopped doing it when they realised they where losing 30% and more of their soldiers. Soviets were nuts.
>>29691424
I have a few of these lying around and never knew what model vest they were, what are they?
>>29682580
>guns are ba...
>oh shit! the nazees are coming! give everyone a gun!
>>29694247
We don't have a Home Guard in the US because that's what the Second Amendment is for.
>>29691657
>painting over your ir spotlight
nobody learns anything anymore
>>29691765
>What is going through Siberia, Greenland, Africa, or the Middle East
>>29691765
It's almost like we never could have pulled off a major amphibious assault to take and hold a beach head.
> protip it actually happened more than once.
>>29694424
> implying they know how to operate the black magic of NVGs
> doubly implying they have the batteries to power their NVGs
> when the optical systems cost more than the thing you put it on
>>29690032
Yeah that's bullshit
>>29691765
Canada pulled it all together.
>>29694424
Looks like that's just paint on the protective cover desu
>>29687244
>go on armslist
>looking for c&r guns
>find G98
>fucking score
>email seller "hey where can i meet you?"
>receive reply "somalia"
>MFW
>>29695604
>"No FFL required"
>>29695613
>Will accept payment in Jenkem
>>29682544
>wooooo here we go boys
>>29680159
B-52s.
>>29680159
Vietnam recently brought Assault Guns back to service.
>>29695889
don't call them 'assault guns' they don't assault anyone.
The PC term is guns mounted on armored chassis you shitlord.
inanimate objects can't assault people, people assault people.
>>29694247
They had supply shortages, they didn't have enough guns at the time yet.
>>29696414
don't call them "assault rifles" they don't assault anyone
>>29696414
so uh, SPGs then?
>>29682544
Buckle up chaps it's gonna get bumpy
>>29694024
Thats bullshit
>>29697281
>>29694024
The parts of Finland that are not lakes are forest. Not possible.
>>29697281
>>29697288
#8 is a Spanish M43 Mauser; you can see the M93 bayonet adapter on the bayonet lug, and the Vz.24 should have a full-length handguard.
>>29697444
Witnessed.
>>29684494
That is becuase idiot marines bought new production M16A4s during GWOT instead of buying M4s or M4A1s.
>>29697281
How do they feed all this old guns?
>>29697502
>2 males, both remaining serious
>Only female, "LOOK AT ME IM ARMY NOW"
Females in the military. Not even once.
>>29680159
They were homeguard and it was short-lived due to the public outrage the second it came into the public view.
>>29691964
That thing is on a pedestal. Its basically a museum piece.
>>29684494
Many units in the Marine corps and Army still use the M16A2.
>>29697502
Why do people do that with camo cream. It's literally the guidebook example of "too much"
You're not fucking arnie in commando, sort it.
>>29691675
Not even the invasion that was early in the occupation.
Many units went to Iraq in 03 without armor.
>>29699248
My best friend was deployed as an Army engineer to Iraq in 2007.
He was told if he wanted plate armor, he had to buy it himself.
>>29699330
He is full of shit. By late 2004 all Army units deploying to Iraq were issued Second Chance Interceptor Body Armor. I was there in 2005, every swinging dick and tit had plate armor.
>>29691901
Actually faggot. Those pikes were made during the war.
>>29699330
What shithole unit was he from? The only thing I bought to use in Iraq was a pocket knife, flashlight, and a few small tools. Everything else was issued to us including our armor and as far as I know, I thought non-issued armor was a big no no.
>>29682544
>Both times
Okay well that's a defendable position for WW2, but if you think America saved anybody in WW1 you are retarded. The Americans were only actually fighting for like three months, from a military standpoint the war was still a stalemate and didn't show any signs of ending soon. It only stopped because there was change of government in Germany and the new bosses wanted to end the war.
>>29700888
>I've done no research.
>Battle of the Bulge didn't happen and had no consequences
C'mon, man. Give Americans credit where credit is due. You got an eternal war going on, where nobody moves a mile for YEARS. Americans show up and 3 months later, the whole war is over.
Then you tell us Americans didn't do shit?
I call bullshit. Bull. Shit.
>>29700925
>Battle of the Bulge
Shit, that was WW2, Battle of St Quentin Canal was WW1
>>29700925
The fact that they were only fighting for three months is evidence against the Americans having a significant impact on the war. A four year old stalemate doesn't turn into a whirlwind victory in three months. This is especially true since the Russians had pulled out of the war and the Germans now only had to focus on the Western front. So I suppose that the Americans "saved" the Entente in that they stopped the Germans from gaining an edge (which likely wouldn't have been enough to tip the scales anyway). If anything the Germans still had an advantage since the troops that they transferred from the Eastern front to the West would have been hardened veterans while the Americans would have been green recruits. The most you can say about American involvement in WW1 is that they helped the stalemate last until internal turmoil caused Germany to lose the war.
>>29697532
All of the ammo is still made commercially.
People often forget that many STG's are not really Germany, but post-war Yugo/Czech builds on captured equipment to export to Africa/Middle East for cash to rebuild.
>>29694345
National Guard, dipshit
>>29695889
>>29694024
Somebody's got shit taste in anime.
>>29680159
while not technically outdated, they are still pressed into service for a lack of a better alternative.
>>29702340
>while not technically outdated, they are still pressed into service for a lack of a better alternative.
lmao nigger you what, what?
Dude, when this shit started in middle east especially at the start of Syria conflict most armies actually considered to adapt similar light arty pieces themselves.
Its light as fuck, mobile as fuck and CHEAP as fuck and there was serious talks about creating similar (of course modernized) arty pieces even in Darpa/BAEs.
We Panzerwerfer Now.
>>29702340
>>29702406
being thick cunt i am, i forgot a pic
>>29702340
And if you really want to be a cheeky cunt and post some rocket outdated why not this?
>BM-21
Outdated, still fucking used everywhere.
Gniotsa nyet lamiotsa.
>>29702429
>that polish camo
GTFO slav subhuman scum, go suck Putin's dick.
>>29702507
I can see you know your geopolitics well.
Poles fucking hate Ivans. Oh well.
Can't argue with retarded.
>>29684491
ive seen pics of tribal women with STG 44s
>>29702565
Animu is real?
>>29691266
neat
>>29702532
O rly faggit?
That Kazynski guy you have now, isn't he basically just a lil'(i)Put? He is in bed with Orban, who is, again, Putin's lil' whore.
And last time I checked there were demonstrations in your excuse of a country, and I heard from that crowds somethng about christian Europe, christian state, christian culture... sounds like Russia to me
>>29691841
thats not a Mauser
>>29702639
Christ Almighty. That was the first picture i liked from Google, its a tech that is used in Syria, Ukraine and many other right now and i don't know what you are on with that whole rant.
I don't know why i even took that bait.
Are you even alright dude?
You don't really look like you are right on there in your head, but then you might be just really fucking stupid.
Wanna talk about hating on Based Poles, try...
>>>/pol/>>>
>>29702640
Really tard?
That is an M1871 Mauser
>>29697281
>tfw no cutie STG-44 wielding tribal GF
>>29694051
Ranger body armor
>>29682505
Jesus please stop. the bait is too real.
I do not want to indulge it but i just want to clarify. The spears where defensive tools used by the home guard and other units of the "british armed forces" that where unable to join the regular army. Supplies where short for the first few years of the war and until the mass introduction of the sten gun the british had no easily manufacturable and cheap weapons. "make do and mend" became the mindset and thus the spear was brought into service.
>>29694247
Guns were actually pretty common in the UK until the 1970's.
They were even more common before WW1.
The whole "millions dead" kind of fucked with public opinion of guns despite most deaths in WW1 being due to artillery or gas.
>>29694024
Not even Russians are retarded enough to do that. You must be pretty fucking retarded to believe that, however.
>>29702639
FYI Kaczynski's party won recent elections actually claiming his twin brother (at the moment president of Poland) was killed in air crash orchestrated by Putin.
>>29694024
I read about it too; not so unbelivable if you remember that there could be like 2m deep snow in winter; and bomber was relatively slow
>>29701043
Actually, the Germans kept about a million troops in the east for occupation, as well as Ludendorff's fear of the troops being contaminated by Bolshevist thinking.
>>29690323
Underrated
>>29699330
That bullshit story was used by scammers to collect money claiming that they were buying armor for our troops.
>>29691266
NG, nigguh. It was supposed to be hands me down
Not terribly outdated but the general operation force (or jugle police as the locals called them) used plenty of old shit; HK-33, SLR, even AR-10 because
>muh stopping power
>you aint gonna need all that fancy shit innawoods
>>29684494
Almost all Marine infantry units still use the m16 because it offers a slight advantage in EFR
>>29699221
The only people who use m16s in the Army anymore are POGs
>>29682544
DELETE THIS
>>29680159
>1936+80 years
>MAS36 in 7.62 and a box magazine
>>29702406
I had meant the Toyotas originally not the hind missile launchers but both like to be a good idea for a light infantry support vehicle
>>29710679
Almost every technical you see on the news is some kind of Toyota
>>29691563
What is the german for "I am so fucked"
>>29699227
>Spoken like a true conscript
>>29711095
Ich bin sowas von am Arsch.
>>29711095
Polish Cavalry at the onset of WWII.
>>29697502
>postin outdated photos
>2016
>>29700888
>from a military standpoint the war was still a stalemate and didn't show any signs of ending soon
not actually accurate, the war was coming to a end, the germans were exhausted, running out of money and material and the allies were marginally less exhausted and had figured out at last that tanks plus creeping barrage plus well trained infatry could and would punch out any trench defense ever created and proceeded to demonstrate this in the hundred days offensive, inflicting heavy defeats on the germans and punching out the hindeburg line along a massive section of its length, the resultant collapse in morale triggered the change in government and the further collapse of the german army.
>>29701043
>The fact that they were only fighting for three months is evidence against the Americans having a significant impact on the war.
in actual military terms they didnt contribute much before the germans surrendered, in the period in which they were fighting they were probably the least effective although most enthusiastic of the allies, the meuse argonne offensive costing more lives at for less gain than the great push of the anglo french armies further north.
their primary effect was to hammer home the unsalvageable position of the germans in that the german high command had to face the fact that not only could they now not expect their front to hold anywhere short of the rhine, but the allies would have effectively unlimited manpower
>>29711095
"Refugees wilkommen"
>>29711407
No, that's "Fuck me".
>>29711407
:^)c
>>29680159
a homeguard unit, almost none of which were actually issued with spears, and those few who were were not in areas likely to be invaded and were issued with rifles shortly thereafter.
the majority of the homeguard were issued with old ww1 era SMLEs, and other rifles, the pikes being meant as a morale boost for troops still waiting for a weapon.
that said the homguard did have a rather odd hodgepodge of improvised weapons
>>29697540
Quite sure all three are dudes, unless that is a girl with a really mannish face.
>>29711567
http://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2015/1/9/the-mousqueton-amd-frances-mini-14/
>>29697540
Those are very clearly all dudes
