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Gearfag Thread: Armor Carrier Edition
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Last one is almost at bump limit.

My Siege R Optomized came in yesterday, super comfy with plates and armor.
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>>29662501
Here's a bump, lemme see dat miata
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>>29662501
Since our resident tripfag likes talking training too, I'll toss out that I did 335lb squats the other day, close to my 1RM and I still felt really good. Will push it further later this this week. Liquid protein breakfasts ( 75/25 protein powder and semen) and pre-workout creotine have been keeping me feeling solid for workouts, even after daily drudgery. Makes for easier gear queering.

I've been toying with the idea of getting my desert-night parka chopped into a combat shirt with a hood. Thoughts?

Also, best Glock 19 irons?
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>>29662605
I would avoid the hood. Hoods only really shine in rain, and if you have that cotton cover thing from the early 90s rain just soaks it anyway.
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>>29662532
I post it a lot in the miata threads on /o/
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>>29662793
>he fell for the meme
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>>29662805
>not wanting THE BEST
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>>29662885
I drive a truck from the 80s and a sport bike, so I have no stake in the matter of cars lel. I'll admit Miatas are cute and I would consider one if I were to buy a car.
I need me some WAT stickers...
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>>29662793
Good looking car. I had a 96 1.8 stripper model and a 2k5 mazdaspeed. Miss em both.
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New pic
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>>29662793
I would own one if I lived in a warmer climate.

LS swap when?
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>>29663077
Jacket?
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Mayflower APC + disruptive environments rig. Thoughts?
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Looking into gettin a plate carrier. I'm 6'2 and 170. Advice please I know nothing about gear
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>>29662501
got a couple Interceptor vest sets. Slapped in lv4 plates.

Paid a bit less than 200 bucks in total per vest, which I consider not bad at all.
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Would an ares armor plate carrier silencer work with a pig plate carrier?
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>>29663613
Isn't that what the D3CR was partially designed around? Being able to stick onto that PC?
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>>29663654
Think so
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>>29663560
sposn Gorka-D jacket.
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Check out this piece of shit
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>>29663716
Damn that sucks
Could work fine tho
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>>29663716
You .mil?
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>>29663783
ya, 11b.
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>>29661882
you're asking about body armor, a subject in which you clearly know nothing about in its usage or the traits which make a material suitable for the purpose, because you wouldn't be asking such stupid questions otherwise.
lemme know how your ar500 plates work out for you.
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>>29663795
PC and Backpack? I really dig setups like that.
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Any suggestions for a good backpack with your plate carrier? Should it be attached to the PC or rucked separately?
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>>29663836
Crye JPC with GMR Gear Minimap on the back
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>>29663876
Depends on what you're carrying. If you're just carrying around water and maybe an NVD an attached backpack will work, but if you have to carry anything larger than minimal loads it doesn't make sense to permanently attach it to your carrier.
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>>29663884
Thanks.
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>>29663819
Why no TAP? You're clearly trying to go chestrig with your setup.

No GI IFAK required?

What stuff you *required* to carry aside from mags, water, NODs?
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>>29663973
just something quick i put together with my flc i was issued. decided to buy some pouches because the issued pouches are shit but do eventually want to upgrade to something like the Tactical Tailor MAV. my ifak is at the company for accountability, its usually on the left side.
>What stuff you *required* to carry aside from mags, water, NODs?
2x eyepro, ear pro, gloves. i have a leatherman in the grenade pouch with my ear pro. eye pro and gloves arent in pic.
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>>29664058
The issued double mag pouches are actually totally fine. I'd use them for stowage of the mags aside from the front ones. You can pick up a double pistol mag pouch for cheap, those are great for stowing a multitool and flashlight. I'd ditch the giant GP pouch unless that's your NOD pouch.

Get some decent aftermarket earplugs (Surefires yo) and stick them in your little earplug box.

You could probably switch the dump pouch to your riggers belt. It might interfere with the IOTV, dunno, never did it with an IOTV.

I'd stick some buddy tabbed e-tape on your person, possibly looped off a d-ring.

And then pick up a headlamp with a red filter to wear innaFOB or exercise.

Just my thoughts though.
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>>29663670
Fucking nice.
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Here's something I threw together with gear laying around.
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>>29663613
I'm getting it, got my apc and level 4s, going to order the rig soon
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>>29664110
the issued double pouches are okay but when theres only 1 mag in there they rattle around a bit. im switching the stacked pouches with bungees to the closed pouches just to keep my mags cleaner, they also have a retention strap on it so if theres 1 mag in the pouch its more secure.
the large 5.11 pouch on the left is for nods, j-arm, rhino mount with room for admin stuff like pens, paper, protractor, that kind of shit. thats a good idea for the pistol pouch for my multitool and ear pro. i have a d ring on there next to the gp pouch it just blends in, i usually have tape on it. i want to get a belt but ive never seen any one use it with the iotv so im not sure it would work well, but i can definitely try it.
got a headlamp just not in pic.
but ty for the tip with the pistol pouch, probably be better than the gp pouch.
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>>29664205
Is this loss?
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>>29664240
huh?
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>>29664212
Yeah, I don't mean to get invasive. I've just seen too many new people stack way too much PX crap on their vests. Your's isn't bad, I'm sure some field exercises will sort out how you want it.

About the dump pouch. I mean to stick directly onto your pants belt. If you have a stiff rigging belt in your pants, it's bretty easy. A battle of duty belt is a viable option, but usually only guys that *have* to carry more stuff really use them. If you just have a dump pouch, not really enough to warrant a battle belt yet.

In your NOD pouch, I'd for sure stick some extra batteries (covered in tabbed e-tape to keep them from contacting metal and discharging).

You seem decently set. Next big upgrade is a chest rig. Make sure to check out surplus stores near post. Lots of great gear for cheaper than new.
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>>29664259
>doesn't know the loss comic
Really?
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>>29664287
>I don't mean to get invasive
oh dude criticize the shit out of it, thats kinda why i posted it here to get some help. ive been to quite a few field problems and each time im trying improve quality of life with my kit, just make things easier on my self and be comfortable.
never thought of sticking the dump pouch directly onto my belt, it has black hawk speed clips so i could just thread it through, need to try that out. do you have any experience with good riggers belts?
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>>29664357
Forgive me sempei
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>>29664205
Oi meatball, You're wearing your shoulder straps backwards.
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>>29662793
did you lower it yourself or did you take it some shopfags
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>>29664406
Yes I know
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>>29664365
I've used a Tactical Tailor belt and a knock-off Cobra the most. I have quite a few other belts of which I'm not even sure who made.

When it comes to rigger's belts for daily use, just get one that's nice and stiff and uses Velcro or a nice buckle instead of the GI belt.

In terms of gear queering, my top three quality of life items for improving in the field would be better helmet straps (Ops-Core straps are good and don't look too funky or geardo), an adjustable 2-point sling (I like my trusty VTAC), and a polymer camping plate (yes really).
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>>29662501
No real tactical gear yet unfortunately

>High speed low drag
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Athens anon, if you see this me and another anon are meeting at Athens gun range tomorrow at 1 pm.
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>>29663613

Pistol magazines should never go on your front. Multi-tools should never go on your 2nd line.

GP pouches are bad.

>>29663716

ditch the FLC and ditch the GP pouch.

>>29663783

only faggots say ".mil" to try to sound like they're "in the know" about operating.

>>29663795

Simple, streamlined. No excessive GP pouches, but where's your IFAK? Are you not issued a pistol? Frags? Smokes? Pop ups? Demo?

I see you have a homemade antenna rerouting cable which I respect if you went to your wireguys and made it yourself. Where's your PTT? what about a dump pouch?

>>29664205

You look like you were/are a marine with no experience. You've a GP pouch cinching together your shoulder straps so you can put useless shit in it. You've chemlights stuck in the molle on your stomach (that will break as soon as you go prone to shoot) that you have no idea what to mark and how in accordance with any SOPs, and you're not a member of a team that would have any clue why you dropped a chemlights anywhere to begin with. You've a side sapi pouch on your back that's repurposed as a GP pouch.

>>29664110

never stow a multitool on your 2nd line. And a handheld flashlight is retarded. YOu should have a weaponlight, a helmet light and a headlamp.

>>29664287

I agree with this guy. Put a dump pouch on the belt you use to hold up your pants.9 times out of 10 there's no point in adding a belt on top of your belt.
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>>29664478
alright man ty. just ordered an ops-core chin strap, bretty excited bout it
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>>29664583
The last two guys you quoted were both me. Anyway, you're in a judgy mood.

A multitool on the vest keeps it easy to account for and easy to reach no matter what. You can also carry one on your belt, but I found it a pain. Easier to just keep the tool in your pocket onnaFOB and then stick it in the vest for mission. Most guys really don't have dedicated first/second line setups, just vests.

Having a dedicated flashlight has proven handy many-a-time. Headlamps and weapon lights are also good, but the more light sources the better. When rooting around in the back of a vehicle or doing the search of a cache, a dedicated flashlight that is strong and not hooked to a weapon is good. And sometimes on a FOB you need more light than a simple headlamp can provide.

I wasn't aware saying ".mil" was try hard. It's pretty common slang, but I'll try to police myself to not offend your sensibilities.
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>>29664671

Carrying it on your belt 1) guarantees it will always be on you, in the same place, whether you're taking a shit or you're E&Eing and ditched your 2nd line, and 2) means no additional weight in the form of a nylon pouch added to your your increasingly cluttered 2nd line.

Weapon lights (both vis and IR) are unarguably mandatory if you even think you might be using your weapon for anything but punching holes in paper.

A dedicated flashlight that is attached to your helmet allows you to light shit up hands free while searching aforementioned vehicles or caches.

A headlamp with 3 fresh AAA batteries is going to light up anything and everything you need on a FOB.
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>>29664583
>Pistol magazines should never go on your front. Multi-tools should never go on your 2nd line.
>GP pouches are bad.
Could I hear your reasoning? Alternatives?
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>>29664583
>You look like you were/are a marine with no experience.
I was a marine yes. I also have experience. Not a pog either.
> You've a GP pouch cinching together your shoulder straps so you can put useless shit in it.
It's not clinching it any more than a regular front panel.
>You've chemlights stuck in the molle on your stomach
I agree they do need to move but It doesn't really bother me at the moment.
>You've a side sapi pouch on your back that's repurposed as a GP pouch.
Whats wrong with that?
You sound like you've got a stick up your ass.
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>>29664743
Ok, you are clearly set in stone. Cool.

I have found that having a dedicated light in addition to a helmet and weapon light to come in handy.

I have found that having a double pouch for my multitool on my vest makes it very easy to reach no matter my body position or what gear is on top of me. I have found the pouch to not create terrible clutter. The weight of a nylon pouch has never made me collapse from exhaustion.

Different people have different mission focus and preferences.

Clearly however I have only ever used these tools to punch paper in targets at the local range on sunny days though.
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>>29664583
>only faggots say ".mil" to try to sound like they're "in the know" about operating.
Ayy lmao
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>>29664769

Your pistol is for putting projectiles into a target when your primary goes down. When your primary goes down and you are too close to your target to commit to remedial action you either a) drop it on the ground because you're an idiot and don't have a sling or b) you have a sling and it falls in front of your chest, subsequently danging in front of your chest and hindering a reload. You don't want to have your primary blocking your secondaries ability to be speed reloaded. Pistol mags should go on the same belt that the pistol is mounted on, therefore any time you have your pistol on you, you also have your additional magazines for it. If you're going to place a pistol mag on your 2nd line, it should go towards your side, in a relatively similar clock position as is on your belt in order to facilitate a natural reaction to reach for the same area of your body, without being obstructed by your rifle. Additionally, magazines placed on the front of your body as opposed to offset on your side will inevitably being ground into the dirt while you are in the prone, which will inhibit a reload and induce failures down the line.

>>29664828

MEUs don't count as experience. Chest pouches are invariably filled with uneccesary shit that could easily go in a back pocket (rite in rain/pens) that you'll have on you at ALL times instead of just kitted up. a floppy, saggy side sapi pouch dangling on the back of a hydro carrier is a snag hazzard, and it's loose attachment results in wasted energy as it flops around.

>>29664829

every pouch counts, and if you've ever humped into a firefight and then had to run around, ten had any semblance of rationality and efficiency you'd ditch every useless gram of gear.
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>>29664988
Stop making assumtions
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>>29664671
I day .mil sometimes, pretty common tbqh familia.
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Do these things actually do any good?
Every time I hear about someone trying to disarm a bomb wearing one and it blows up they die anyway.
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>>29665023

with who, when, where and what MOS. Being an 03 dumb dumb doesn't say much
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>>29664988
>If you've ever humped into a firefight and then had to run around...

Well, no, but I double prestiged on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, so I'll say that having a pouch with a multitool and light has not been a terrible hinderance.

The weight of a fucking pouch is insignificant next to ammo, which conveniently goes away as a firefight goes on.

Clutter on a vest is bad, and GP pouches *can* be a bad thing. Though when I asked what was in it and the answer was "NODs", that is a decent answer. NODs get kept on the vest and require a decently sizable pouch.

Honestly, people do things all different ways and the "your way or the highway" approach is making you look like a jakovosaur.
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>>29665050
Yes I was an 03, mr operator dude. Whats the point of going out of your way to be an asshole for no reason
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>>29665081

Just trying to make sense of your retarded set up
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>>29665031
Plates offer less protection that ESAPI. The whole thing is heavy soft armor meant for going up against blasts. It's designed to protect on approach to and from an explosive. Depending on the size the protection it offers can save a life. The idea even with the suit on is still to keep distance from explosives using various methods. Sometimes a simple pole with a hook on it is used to interact with explosives. The stats on the difference between being hit by an explosive at 0 feet and 10 feet are pretty appreciable.
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>>29665031
you just answered your own question
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>>29665095
I have it the way I like it.
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>>29665095
Let's see your setup f a m .
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>>29665095
i bet you my set up's better
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>>29664988
>Your pistol is for putting projectiles into a target when your primary goes down.
Appreciate the comprehensive response, that makes total sense. Conceivably my primary could be slid around to my back on its sling but letting it hang is much more likely and expeditious.
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>>29663613
I don't like the d3cr. But that's a damn good plate carrier

>>29663641
Ibas are more comfy than iotvs. But lose the cock flap

>>29664110
The dump pouch shouldnt interfere, it didn't for me
But all of that is good advice
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Bumping, seeing as all of those that can afford gear are working.
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>>29665110
>>29665118

my kit sucks tho
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I need help picking plate sizes. When I was in the army I wore ESAPI size XS. I'm 5'10" and hungry skeleton build.

Based on what I used to wear I think I need 8x10 plates, but I cut out some cardboard in roughly the shape and size of 8x10 plates and I'm not so sure.

Advice? I'm thinking of getting the single curve shooters cut from hoplite armor.
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>>29665185
>But lose the cock flap
if SHTF, it's certainly going to stay!
I'd hate to survive a mortar / cannon / rocket / etc blast, but lose my junk.
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>>29665813
ZOMG that guy put his pistol on his VEST!!! REEEEEE FUCKIN NORMIES!!!!! Doesn't that guy know that he is totally not operator not to have his pistol on his tactical firstline modular rig?

I bet he died within a day of that photo being taken.
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>>29665876
Well I haven't seen any more recent pictures of him, so sounds like you're right.
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>>29664583
Not asking for your critique faggot, go back to call of duty
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>>29664583
>Simple, streamlined. No excessive GP pouches, but where's your IFAK? Are you not issued a pistol? Frags? Smokes? Pop ups? Demo?
I don't carry an IFAK at all, there is no position where I could actually place it and utilize it properly, if I really wanted to use one I'd put it on my belt, pic related. No, I'm not issued a pistol, frags, demo or any of that shit, I'm not SOF, but my MAP can carry any number of things like that, I mostly use it for carrying my NVG and some weapon accessories, and obviously water.


>I see you have a homemade antenna rerouting cable which I respect if you went to your wireguys and made it yourself. Where's your PTT? what about a dump pouch?

It's for a baofeng senpai, I'm not important enough to carry a PRC-152, I don't carry comms on this setup anymore, less is more. If I was actually using a PRC-152 I would much rather use the handset, which can be placed anywhere. Unless you are a FO or a JTAC or someone who is on comms several hours a day you don't need a PTT and headset.

Dump pouches are for low speed sloths. They are a training crutch, learn how to properly insert mags back into their pouches. There is really no situation outside of carbine classes where you won't have time to reinsert.

This rig is just for shooting and fun, I don't, and can't use it for work. Sometimes when I can get away with it I will take it out, ie driving a truck or a short range, but aside from that I just use it for civilian shooting.
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I think this is a picture of my belt. I don't even wear this one anymore, I prefer the other one in my earlier pic
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>>29666001
You don't have to wear an IFAK?

What kind of awful national guard/reserve pogue shit unit are you in?

One of the primary risk mitigation factors is that every soldier has an IFAK and every soldier has water. You have the worst commander and first sergeant in the history of the army.
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>>29666029
>army

That's why we have Corpsmen, everywhere, anytime there is even a minor safety risk. I'm CLS certified, I still see no reason to carry an IFAK, a Doc is doing to be exponentially more capable than me at administering life saving aid. I would just be in the way, as would the vast majority of Marines, CLS certified or not.

It's not SOP in my unit to carry IFAKs for that very reason. Plus CIF doesn't actually even have IFAKs in stock, there is a critical lack of available medical supplies across the USMC.
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>>29666029
National guard infantry here. Even we wear ifaks, and get recertified every year on basic CLS.
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The army has a totally different philosophy on carrying IFAKs than the Marine Corps. We have at least one doc in every infantry platoon, and a lot more in headquarters elements. There is simply no need for individual Marines to carry medical supplies on them greenside.

In training, none of the units I've been with have made it absolutely necessary to carry one, obviously a deployment is a totally different can of worms though.
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>>29666109
Every platoon is supposed to have a medic for us too, but we don't train like that. Better to use our limited time training our medics to medic instead of running lanes with us.
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>>29666072
You're either a cherry faggot or a liar.

All units have to do a risk assessment before going into the field for training or a mission. Part of risk assessments include mandating that troops have IFAKs and water in addition to things like eye and ear pro. Otherwise the potential risk of injury is to high on the assessment and higher levels won't sign off on the training/mission.
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>>29666109
Every army infantry platoon has medics assigned as well.

You absolutely need IFAKs in training. If you had been in more than 6 months you would have known this from experience after seeing training accidents.
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>>29666109
Do you not attempt to set up gear to train how you fight, or simulate casualties? IFAKs are a damn useful thing, even with medics around.
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>>29666211
Been in three and a half years and never once seen a medical emergency that a doc was not there to immediately take care of. They are omnipresent. The only thing the USMC IFAK offers is massive hemorrhaging control aids, no splints, no NPAs, no Needle-Ds, etc, just combat guaze, H bandages and TQs.

>>29666187
Not in twentynine palms. Like I said, CIF doesn't even issue IFAKs anymore, they give you an empty pouch. You can't make it a requirement for training, because the materials don't exist, therefore we just train our docs to take care of everything because their supplies come from elsewhere.

>>29666277
Yes, we do, with the exception of IFAKs and gas masks. Gas masks are not a training requirement either anymore.
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>>29666290
>Not in twentynine palms. Like I said, CIF doesn't even issue IFAKs anymore, they give you an empty pouch. You can't make it a requirement for training, because the materials don't exist, therefore we just train our docs to take care of everything because their supplies come from elsewhere.

this shouldn't be happening if your unit pays into the UIF or AMALS like normal. Some of the CIF's corps wide have been pulling this shady shit and i've had to personally take it up with the SMU. Were paying for shit that the CIF refuses to issue because it "goes bad" and thats the mentality because lots of retiree's end up there.
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I'm also not saying our unit doesn't train it's Marines how to use IFAKs either, the vast majority of infantry go through a CLS course and they do refresher training every couple months, but we don't use our own supplies, we use worn out old crap the docs pull out of their storage room.

It's not a matter of lack of training or lack of trust in the individual Marine to administer effective first aid, it's a matter of not having materials, and adjusting training requirements around those deficiencies. If you issue a Marine in my unit an IFAK when they deploy, I have no doubt they would know what everything in there is for and how to use it properly.
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>>29666290
Ok, so uh, as marines do you all get organized first aid training and refresher training?

I find it weird as fuck you all don't carry those habitually on your gear. The whole idea of wearing your gear in the states is to exercise and simulate how to wear it on deployment.
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On the topic of IFAKs, what should I consider putting in one? I mean the simple basic stuff, I'm not going to fuck around with shit like tourniquets and QuickClot if I have no idea how to use them.
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>>29666343
see>>29666338

I agree, but an IFAK isn't an incredible amount of weight if lightened down to essentials, the fact that Marines know how to use them is more important than carrying it around on a part of your flak you can't even reach just because your Company CO says so. That's pointless, Marines inherently resent anything they are forced to carry. Not saying it's right to not carry them, that's just how it works in my unit.

>>29666335
Yes, It's a shit show. There are multiple people who just joined the unit who don't have gas mask filters, ESAPIs or IFAKs, all of which are core training requirements.
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>>29665813
>woodland + multicam in the field
finally, my operator license came in the mail
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>>29666374
>Marines inherently resent anything they are forced to carry
Reminds me of an Alpha Gators comic.
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>>29666378
Congratulations you looks like a high-tech goat fucker soldier.
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>>29666374
No. Promasks and plates are not essential training equipment.

Water, ear pro, eye pro, and IFAK are.
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>>29666421
>tfw >>29666378 is really ISIS postan' on /k/
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>>29665813

>makes sure he has is helmet cam
> chest mounts pistol

Yes, yes this guy is indeed a faggot

>>29665903

You posted your paycheck blown on equipment you'll never use and set up retardedly on 4chin, you're going to get called out for being a retarded faggot you retarded faggot

>>29666001

>i dont carry and IFAK at all

You're a fucking moron and whoever is in charge of you is a fucking moron.

>there is no place I could place it and utilize it

try: anywhere. You spent a paycheck on a plate carrier you're not allowed to wear, that you only use to post pictures on 4chin. you absolutely need an ifak because your dumbass is more likely to shoot yourself than ever even shoot in the general direction of an enemy combatant.

>Unless you are a FO or a JTAC

So a team leader, squad leader, platoon commander doesn't need to be able to receive, transmit and relay information instantly via voice while remaining audibly aware of the world around him (or her, because in todays military maybe you're a cunt) despite the deafening cacophony inherent to a gunfight?

>Dump pouches are for

Dump pouches are for retaining objects, often magazines, without fumbling to look down at your chest and wiggle them back into their pouches. So you're telling me someone who's in an actual gunfight, not you obviously because you'll never be in one outside of your barracks room xbox days, should do a speed reload and place an empty magazine- or do a tactical reload and place a magazine with say, 6 rounds left in it, back into your speed reload pouch? Now this poor retard who's as stupid as you goes to reload and goes for his speed reload pouch and inserts a magazine that's empty or purposely places his rifle NOT in the most lethal condition possible. You're a fucking retarded boot.

>I just use it for civilian shooting.

So you spend the money on a JPC to wear off of work, but you're too fucking dumb to wear an ifak at work? Holy shit

>>29666029

We've established this kid is retard
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>>29666072
68w here.

That is one of the most horrifying things I have ever read.
>>29666109
There is a need. Corpsmen are not bulletproof, and they will not always be able to get to you.
>>29666290
Ok. Now I get it. The world changes once you do some time in country. I am surprised that you are being trained to be helpless.
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>>29666421
I'll take that over being an overweight white guy running around in a chest rig that barely fits

>>29666432
hey, that's not nice. I'm too slanty-eyed for that.
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>>29666374
>the fact that Marines know how to use them is more important than carrying it around on a part of your flak you can't even reach just because your Company CO says so.

1. How do you train with them to make sure you can use them if you don't carry them?

2. Why not put them on a part of the vest you can access like just about everybody who has ever kitted up an IFAK has managed to do?
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>>29666483
Bullshit! Post slanty eyes for proof.
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>>29666072

What happens when your doc gets blown up? What happens when two marines get shot? What happens if you don't have a corpsman with you because your corpsman fell out of a 7ton and broke his collarbone? You're not even trolling that's the sick and sad part.

>It's not SOP in my unit to carry IFAKs for that very reason

Please tell me what unit this is

>>29666109

You do realize in a platoon there are 3 squads, right? You expect your 3 squads to be co-located? I was never a dick to boots, but this is where you just stand at parade rest and your high and tight grows higher and tighter.

>>29666290

>the USMC IFAK offers is massive hemorrhaging control aids, no splints, no NPAs, no Needle-Ds, etc, just combat guaze, H bandages and TQs.

"The three most common causes of preventable death on the battlefield are: Hemorrhage from extremity wounds. Tension pneumothorax. Airway problems These are the injuries that we need to focus on for saving lives in combat."

http://www.naemt.org/Education/IGa%20Intro%20to%20TCCC%20with%20Notes%202-17-09.pdf

Massive hemorrhaging, the #1 cause of preventable deaths in combat, can be staunched with combat gauze, pressure bandages and TQ's. And you decide to blow your money on a JPC. an NPA costs maybe 6 bucks. And you buy a JPC.

>29666378

hey look I posted it again.jpeg
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>>29666290
The whole point of wearing your gear in training is to simulate as closely as possible how that gear is on deployment. If you are intentionally not carrying gear you know you would carry on deployment because "lol just training" it defeats the whole point of training.

I refuse to believe the entire USMC is this retarded.
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>>29666585

80% of the moron corps is this retarded.
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>>29666483
>I'll take that over being an overweight white guy running around in a chest rig that barely fits

Good on you, It's always preferable to be fit than fat.
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>>29666643
Granted, but not even they could be *this* fucking stupid.
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>>29662501
who makes that plate carrier? and is it any good?
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>>29666995
First Spear. Shit's expensive though since it also has soft armor
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>>29666995
>"My Siege R Optomized came in yesterday, super comfy with plates and armor."
Hurr durr.
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>>29666995
It's fine, but it's made for BALCS armor I think, they make plate carriers that aren't cut for soft armor if you just want to run a little slicker.
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>>29667240
The first spear strandhogg, to be specific. Or the budget STT. I have it, I'll use it, but I can't recommend it.
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>>29667267
Does your NG let you use it?
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>>29664583
Found the guy who still only plays modern warfare 2
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>>29667267
Blu, you on the west side of the state?
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>>29667311
Yes. 4 people at my unit use aftermarket plate carriers on missions, all e-4s and e-5s
Do I? No, not yet.
I need to emphasise how little we train in the field outside of AT. .
Between rifle qual, grenade qual, best soldier, yearly don't kill yourself brief, imrx, CLS class, radio, land nav, call for fire, etc, we have maybe 5 weekends of field problems. I only got my plate carrier in January. Weve gone out once, and my PC wasn't finished then.

Before annual training, I'll ask if I can. But my team leader, squad leader, platoon sergeant, and Commander could all say no. I just got a new commander, team leader, and squad leader.

Finally, I'm only carrying 3 mags on the carrier and an Ifak. I need to double my magazines and carry 2 grenades and 1 flashbang.
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>>29667446
Aight. I was asking since if you can't wear it, getting a simply clip on MOLLE panel would make a ton of sense to swap your pouches back and forth.

This could be useful especially for stuff like soldier of the year or ranges where you're in mixed unit presence and are required to wear GI vests. The states tend to require more things be done in full armor than plates in my experience, but I've never lived NG life.

As to your mags, don't you have a belt stowing at least 3 of them at the moment bringing you up to a combat load?
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>>29667446
How long have you been in? I got out of the guard in '12. Every single drill weekend except for three months was a MUTA 6, in the field the whole time. (Maybe a sharp class or don't kill yourself briefing on Sunday afternoon after equipment turn in)

When I was in a guard LRSC in addition to the MUTA 6s we constantly had voluntary classes, at least a few days a month, and every other month you would get a mandatory class for something or a school.

Guess things really change now that the wars are wrapped up.
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seems like reservists do more actual training than active duty dudes
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>>29667565
We've been to the field twice a month since start of Feb. Not going this month but we're going out for 2 weeks in may. Gonna be shittastic. But other than that it's literally eo sharp and hazing classes. Fucking boring as shit.
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>>29667539
Those molle panels mean limited use of the cummerbund. I wouldn't use my belt with guard, so the cummerbund's important

For mixed unit and soldier of the year, I'll use provided equipment. The only issue FLCs and helmets and hand out iotv as needed.

And the belt and PC kinda interfere sometimes

I might get a belt mounted mag pouch, but the real solution are double mag pouches up front.

>>29667559
Rare are the Sundays we don't get out before 1. I'm a dismount in a Bradley company. The vehicles suck up so much of our money. We lose a lot of training time.
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>>29667598
Holy shit, lrsc seems awesome.
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>>29667638
Yeah, I was never mech.

How often do your gunners do qual for the brads? I wrapped up my enlistment in a RSTA cav troop, they shot machine gun tables probably 5 months a year, more than they did scout lanes.
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>>29667650
>>29667638
Wait........... you buy all this shit and you're an E4 in a fucking mech company?
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>>29667650
Implying
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>>29667679
To his credit none of his stuff is particularly valuable or expensive. I'd say he has a normal amount of money invested.
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Not sure why anonymous online imageboards users always think it's their place to question why people buy things. It's really none of your business, the simple fact that he likes it is reason enough for him to buy it.
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>>29667670
Yearly. But this is the last year. We're going light.
>>29667679
I bought my plates and carrier on sale. It was never for the army, it was for my personal enjoyment and training on my own time, as we don't issued plates to use.
>>29667743
It's whatever.
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>>29667670
82nd BCT? Or common sense unit?
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>>29667743
We're allowed to question why people choose to buy something, especially when it is something that doesn't make any sense or serve any purpose.
They're posting on an image board for fuck sakes, if they don't want people questioning them they can go shit up Instagram or Pinterest.
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>>29667912
And that's fine but given the amount I've spent for my kit and how much use it gets currently, I would still feel like "money well spent" if I never got to use it with my unit.

Always question me, always criticise me. I'll try to answer those questions and justify my ideas. Hopefully, someone proves me wrong on some points, and I adopt their ideas and improve my shit.
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>>29667965
>Hopefully, someone proves me wrong on some points, and I adopt their ideas and improve my shit.
That's why I like this place. I learn best from hearing people explaining why something is dumb or criticising my ideas.
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>>29667743
As a follow up, questioning someone's purchases on the internet and hearing their reasons can give you answers to whether or not they should spend that money.

>why would you buy a tavor when a psa ar15 is $600
>why would you buy a HK when a glock is $500
>bro, you wasted your money on that acog. Shoulda bought primary arms.

If the accused can lay down good points, all of a sudden an on the fence anon has reasons to purchase a product.
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Any good chest rig recommendations for 7.62 ak?
Also how are the rifleman rigs that tactical assault gear sells?
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Is weapons catch bro here?
Debating on getting a serbu shorty and and debating on getting the TAG catch or making my own.
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Looking to get a plate carrier
How far down is a plate supposed to protect? Top of the plate is supposed to go to the clavicle iirc.
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>>29662501
that carrier looks really nice but the clips on the shoulder pads always bugged me for some reason.

>>29663795
>>29663884
i want that backpack but i don't want to give GMR my money.
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>>29667240
What he said, it accepts BALCS armor
>>29667267
How much did you pay for your carrier? I got the siege for $275 shipped kek
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>>29668393
the plate will end a few inches below your sternum, and above your belly button. as long as you can still bend over comfortably it's not something to concern yourself with.
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>>29665110

there's my kit.
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>>29668542
$160
Then $40 for 2 sets of pontoons, $35 for pads.

So $235. And now I have a single size, less adjustable strandhogg.

>>29668539
It's a releasable system, simpler and lighter than, say, the iotv. Pros and cons to everything. I think the cons outweigh the pros though.
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so the TAD force 10 AC's are pretty nice pants, have good storage options and feel quite comfy. though they have a bit of whoosh for not feeling like a technical fabric.
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Anyone own the D3CR-Heavy? 4 308 mags and 2 pistol. Id probably just wear a backpack with this and throw extra mags in there.

Haley is crazy for charging 180 for this but I think I might have to do it. My problem with chest rigs is that they always seem to be a bit too lose on the shoulders.
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>>29668601
im mirin your gear richboi

must be nice to live in a state that doesn't suck ass
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>>29668633
Weren't you shit talking all things TAD less than a month ago?
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>>29668724
I said their jackets and sweaters were badly cut and were overpriced.
they still are, I bought these pants used and is the only way I'd really recommend to do it and really I'd just recommend the pants unless PDW starts making pants soon.
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>>29668601
Am I supposed to be impressed by a blue passport?
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>>29668765
My Praetorian hoodie is one of the best pieces of clothing I've ever owned.
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>>29668765
What are your suggestion for pants? All I have are jeans at the moment, and that isn't exactly ideal.
>>29668841
I had a TAD Stealth Hoodie. Got it on sale, but I wasn't too thrilled with it desu. Got too hot, and didn't have under-arm vents for some god-awful reason. Will never buy another jacket that does not have them.
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I posted this in /akg/ is there anybody who wants to buy some AKM mags? All I have left is two 30 round AKM bakelite for $40 each, and three Polish and one Romy left for $10 each. If you buy the two bakes its free shipping, or all 4 metal ill throw in the pouch as well as free shipping. Email [email protected]
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>>29668601
Your helmet is cool, everything else is meh
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>>29668601
Ever think about using a Gi or similar sled for the blowout kit so it doesnt vomit everything out at once?
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>>29668601
how did you secure that TQ underneath your front plate?
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>>29668841
and I had a ranger hoodie, it was kinda nice but it attracted pet hair like no other, the hood was a little too small to be worn comfortably, and it was quite bulky. for the money the Atom jacket is a huge improvement over it.
for hoodies I like lululemon, though they've been incorporating hi-vis stuff into their clothing lately and its meh.
>>29668860
depends what you want, for combat pants Cryes and Arcteryx are the go to. for a everyday pant where you could go to the range again Arcteryx makes some great hiking pants that would be durable and give you more range of motion while avoiding cotton.
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>>29668916
What's the jacket? I'm digging it.
Also, considering you are still using the D3CR, I'm assuming you like it?
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>>29668664
If you were to build something comparable, it would cost as much if not more for the same quality.

A lot of people use them and wear them. You are better off looking at verifiable credentialed reviews than asking here. In my opinion, if it suits your needs better than piecemealing a setup, go for it.
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>>29668874
That pc has a pals slot for a blutforce gear tq now or similar.
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>>29668916
Based Arcteryx is based
TAD isn't in the same league
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>>29668614
what is the main con you would point out? i just think quick releases on the shoulders look bad and are uncomfortable. when i wear a heavy pack the straps dig the quick release clips on the PC into my collarbones.
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>>29668664
I bought the heavy and put the esstac mag inserts in them for 5.56 (haley ripped these off and charges an assload for "his" version)
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>>29666058

good enough/10

most people have all this gucci shit on and they will probably get blasted by a .243 bolt gun anyways.

you got gun, somewhere to hold ammo and water that about covers the basics short of what is in your brain regarding having the tools necessary to fight
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>>29668700

It's my work gear

>>29668800

wasnt intending to impress you or anyone

>>29668870

My helmet, along with everything else, is just shit i've picked up over the years. It's practical and simple. The only thing I change really is the insert in my kangaroo pouch dependent on what primary I'm using and I usually run 2 pistol mags on my belt. I'll also take off my backpack if I'm working out of a vic or foresee having to carry a ruck.

>29668874

I used an elastic/velcro piece from the side of my soft armor

>29668871

The idea of my blowout kit is for a teammate to pop it open and the contents to fall on the ground. then they can pick up whatever they need- if they don't use their own trauma sheers, they'll use mine, access the wound and either apply a TQ or grab one of my combat gauze packs, rip it open and start jamming, then go to the combat gauze. insert an NPA if necessary and slap on a chest seal if necessary (not pictured- gave mine to a teammate when I came home.)

If i could design my own ifak it would be belt mounted, quick release and then flap open. The med supplies would then all be on something similar to an advent calendar, where you can poke it open with your finger and pull out the one thing you need in a split second.

but for now the LBT blowout will do.

>>29668633

TAD pants are comfortable and practical as fuck for contracting, plus they arent 5.11 so thats a plus
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>>29669022
its a platatac D smock in Auscam.
and yes, It fits my needs perfectly.
>>29669139
basically.
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>>29668601
what model comtacs are those?
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Anyone else find that having stuff on your cummerbund totally fucks your ability to use stuff on your belt? I can't draw or get my rifle mags off the belt if I have that.

Currently have:
>3 rifle mags in kangaroo pouch on mayflower
>2 pistol mags on lower left of PC
>2 rifle mags on 9 o'clock on belt
>dump pouch at 7 o'clock
>3 rifle mags and water/food in small rear backpack

Id rather not do pistol mags on the belt despite what people suggest...maybe I'm retarded.
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>>29669907
get rid of the pistol mags on your pc and move whatever else is interfering with your draw somewhere else.
you will probably have an easier time the more you move your gear around and keep testing.
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>>29669635

comtac ii's, single comm downleads
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>>29669961
I'm thinking about getting rid of the dump pouch entirely. I shoot at a stage area and I can put some identifiers to easily find them, so I don't see the point of it to be honest. That'll make room for the pistol mags back on the belt and I can keep the front of my PC slick.

I've moved at least one thing around every time I've used my gear so far, which hasn't been much. Here's how it was a bit ago.
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>>29669907
Your belt may to be high up or your mag pouches may be mounted too high. Of course you could have a tiny torso which would be the same.

Post a left, right, and front pic and complete gear list for further advice. Hard to diagnose a problem with such limited info.
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>>29670148
You need to lower your dump pouch or move it to the rear. Having it there will fuck with your holster and could give you an ND when the cord locks get caught in the trigger.
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>>29670331
I think you're spot on with the belt being too high. I'll take some pictures tomorrow; in bed right now. Thanks.

I've tried doing the belt lower but I got some wide hips and a thin waist (despite lifting a lot...). I'll try it again.
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>>29670354
I noticed that the first time I drew and moved it as soon as I got home. I thought id clear it, but a g34 isn't conducive to that...
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>>29662605
>tfw Feb of last year I PR'd ~350lbs/DL & 325lbs/SQ
>tfw fucked my back working a bullshit factory job in April
>tfw one year later I'm starting from scratch worse than I was ~5 years ago
>h-hold me /fit/


I'm looking at Speed Sights myself, I kind like the diamond look.
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>>29670374
Try dropping the rifle mags down a rung and run it like a slimgrip to give yourself extra clearance.

You also might be wearing the warbelt wrong with your PC. The belt itself(not the warbelt) should grip your hip bones, not ride above them. The warbelt should help to put the load on the hips and not let much weight hang on your thigh bones(which will hurt).
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>>29664212
Move your nods pouch more to the three o'clock, when you IMT you are running a very big chance of smashing those 14's. Or invest in an Eagle Ind padded canteen pouch liner. You can get them on eBay cheap and they work great.
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>>29670148

ditch your battle belt, move your 4th mag to your place carrier and put your pistol mags on your actual belt. You have a HUGE unnecessary belt.
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>>29670391
You could keep it there but use some malice clips or whatever to put the top of the rolled up pouch under the bottom of the warbelt or top of the holster.

I kinda like it where you had it because partial mags are easier to get than reaching behind and you can drop pistol mags right into it. Running around sucks because you hit your thigh and can buck a mag out, but getting a from behind sack tap with a dumped mag at 6 o'clock sucks. Having it just behind your rifle mags is a compromise but can unbalance such a minimalist warbelt.
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What handgun should I buy? There are so many choices and I can't decide. I'm giving some consideration to either a used Grand Power K100, or this.
https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/mc28sa-4-25-desert-tan-pistol-500-rounds-pmc-9mm-luger-ammo-combo-variation-variation
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Plate carrier
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>>29671096

Battle belt
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>>29671107
How do you feel about the mag-net?
Also what band cover on those HLIS?
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>>29669147
do they make those blueforce mag pouches in the double configuration or did you make that yourself?
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>>29671134

The HSGI "mag-net" is huge as fuck but works better then any dump pouch I've used before. I bought thar band cover on Ebay years ago, couldn't tell you what brand it is.
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>>29671185
Do you ever use it in the woods or decent brush? I have concerns about it snagging on every bit of brush.
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>>29671241

Honestly I don't go rolling around in the sticks thar often to give you a proper answer. I could easily see it being a snagging hazard but if you keep it tucked away towards your rear it shouldn't be an issue.
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>>29671181
no it's the kangaroo pouch on my pc with a high ground gear insert and he blue force gear pouch is just on the outside.
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>>29663641
Where did ya get your intercepror vest? Love that m81 woodland
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>>29672663
Not him, but they are quite easy to find. I've ended up with a couple that were tacked on to other buys. The hard part is finding a complete set of soft armor, since IBAs have a funky armor cut.
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>>29662501
that has to be hot as fuck
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>>29672747
Why would it be any hotter than being in many other vest?
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>>29671916
I see you, Muhammed
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>>29662501
One question.
Can someone describe Armor levels?
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>>29672887
Google NIJ levels.
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>>29672947
And now everything is detailed written
Thanks a lot
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>>29672959
Also look up GOST for ruskishit if you're interested in that.
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>>29673011
Thanks, it's good to know something new
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>>29671225
Is that holster supposed to be in Olive Drab?

Is it just me or do these new kydex companies just not get colors?

Pic related is "flat dark earth".
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>>29673076
That's browner than coyote. Whew.
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>>29670148
Are you going to paint/coat your rifle?
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>>29664514
>This faggot again with his fucking meme AR

Seriously dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Do you not realize you look like a tard with your rails past the barrel and a digital flora t-shirt?
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>>29671225
Starting from the left, whats in that first pouch? What in the Maxpedition organizer? Is that a dump pouch next to it? Are you pistol mags mounted on the rifle mags? What holders are you using?
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>>29673076
No, the holster is ranger green. It was a smarter move than going with OD or FDE.

>>29674831
Starting from the left on my belt:

- Condor double decker Kangaroo pouch, holds two AR15 mags and two pistol mags stacked

- Maxpedition dump pouch

- Condor Sidekick that's used for my IFAK

- Condor Pocket pouch I use as my admin pouch

- carabiner with my Mechanix FastFit gloves

- KT MECH Defender kydex holster with my M&P9L Pro/TLR1 HL combo

- Tactical Tailor HE grenade pouch I stick a pack of 7.62x54R in

It all rides on an Eagle Industries battle belt
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>>29674892
Looks a little dark for Ranger Green.
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Picked an AVS up from a dude on ebay. I plan on buying the harness eventually, sooner than later.

This pic is weirdly professional.
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>>29676395
the harness is really what makes the AVS worthwhile.
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>>29676567
Yeah. I had an order with crye pending for the harness, pads, platebags and the M4 flat flap, but it took so long that my bank declined it, so I had to forgo the harness for the time being to get an AVS at all.

I have some money coming in, but Crye seriously sucks to order from.
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>>29668633
You're crazy if you don't like those pants.

I've taken them on many hiking trips and its such a fucking life saver not having to put on rain pants that make your ass and balls sweat.

Also, they're perfect for wading rivers that go above regular gaiters.
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>>29669139
>Paying $700 for a jacket

They're not the same quality-wise for sure, but if you pay that much for a jacket you're a fucking fool.
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>>29677452
>Wearing waterproofs when it's not raining
REEEEEEEEE
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>>29677471
pffft, I pay that much for a cotton t-shirt!

Pic related, poorfag.
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It is Wednesday my dudes. Any recommendations on a slick?
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>>29677592
i like my sleeper
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Ok after earlier discussion regarding lighting I think I need to get a decent weapon light. I already have a headlamp and stand alone flash light I keep with my gear. But obviously a weapon light is necessary. What are some good ones to go on my AR? My budget would be $150-$200.
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Buy Condor
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>>29677452
I said they're good but overpriced like the rest of TAD stuff.
they'll be good daily pants but I'll wear my softshell pants if I go out and expect rainfall.
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>>29677592
nice Zastava m8 :^)
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>>29678119
tlr-1hl long gun kit off amazon $180, or save up for a surefire M300
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>>29678119
you can pick up an M951 or M952v on ebay for that, although I would recommend the M300 instead.
alternatively just buy a streamlight polytac which works just as well and call it a day.
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Does anybody have any experience with these?

I really like the one-motion-pull open that ITS has, but i don't know how it would work on a belt set up.

My main concern is that it'd be obnoxiously tall and digging into my back if it was upright, or take up too much space if it was horizontal. Also upright it seems like it would make it impossible to run a plate carrier or a back pack.

I know they have a fatboy version, but it seems to wide.

Am I just thinking its bigger than it is or what?
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If I listed out my wishlist loadout would people be able to critique it?
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>>29678227
It is :^)
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>>29678640
go for it
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>>29668539
Should have censored that forehead, too.
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Can anyone chime in on 5.11 vs Condor packs?

Condor advertises their airflow system; does it breathe better?

Does the Rush 12 have drain grommets?

Which one has more comfortable straps? More durable straps (well secured, retains shape, etc)

Do the Rush bags have laptop sleeves?
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>>29678703
Warrior DCS
3x Double Mag Pouch (front middle)
IFAK pouch (Right side)
TQ pouch (between med pouch and mag pouches)
Map pouch (left side)
suppressor pouch (between map and mags)
Radio (just left of map)

Warrior Gunfighter belt
dump pouch
medical /utility pouch
Double pistol mag pouch
KYLE holster

Arc'teryx knee caps
howard leight ear pro
ACH

all gear in OD
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>>29678800
I can vouch for a Rush 12;
They have drain grommets, their straps are pretty comfortable/durable, and yes it has a kind of laptop compartment.
Although it has a flat back so there's not much airflow.

On the flip side I used to sell Condor equipment and the only thing I'd get from them are pouches.
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>>29678861
Care to elaborate at all?

Other than the switch to 500D cordura and lower average price point, I don't know much about them.

Is their fabric worse? Seams? Compartment layout?
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>>29678831
radio should go near your front instead of a suppressor.

I have no experience with warrior assault systems but I wouldn't buy from them simply because they make copies of designs from other companies.
get coyote brown or RG instead of OD. OD is too bright even for tropical south florida.
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>>29678928
The reason I went with warrior is that they seem to offer a good product with a reasonable price compared to other brands that I'velooked at.

Would you suggest switching the supp. Pouch and the radio?

Would RD go with British DPM I thought the OD would blend more once faded
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>>29678588
I have something similar by vanquest called the fatpack that is the same thing but reasonably sized for a belt or PC. It is 4x6 and about as thick as a double mag pouch when stuffed. It uses 2 pals columns. Perfect size for an IFAK, a tad big for a blowout.

I have it on my chest rig and love the design.

It is NOT made in America(Taiwan?), but they use YKK, cordura, and everything is stitched perfectly.
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>>29678988
it's probably not bad product, I personally just don't support companies like them on principle.
also I've never fiercely desired a WAS carrier. I have done so for First Spear, Crye, and LBT. get what you really want, not something just because it's cheaper. look at value, not cost.

yes. you don't need to fiddle with suppressors like you do with radios.

my carrier is M81 woodland with coyote and RG pouches and I have to say, coyote matches much better. DPM has a similar color palette so I recommend you get coyote.
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>>29678886
>Is their fabric worse? Seams? Compartment layout?
Yes, terrible, mediocre. Condor is airsoft gear and wears out very easily. Spend the money on good gear so you don't have to buy it later anyways after the condor shits the bed.
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>>29679075
Do you have any pictures so that I can get an idea?
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Nice, OP Tactical had medium harnesses in stock so I picked one up. I didn't get any pads though, kind of disappointing, I'm not sure where I will be able to get them aside from ebay

I guess I could get some semapo ones they are the same thing
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>>29679109
Understood.

Anything else comparable in the same price range that isn't surplus? I've looked at stuff like triple aught and that shit's like 3x the price.
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>>29678886
>>29678861 here-

-what >>29679109 said.

Their pouches are the same mediocre quality, but you're not hauling loads of gear in them.
At most I'd maybe snag a chest rig if money is really tight.
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>>29679161
Get them from crye
https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/avsap100000_avs-harness-pad-set
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>>29679213
Nah, I had trouble with their credit card authorization, I'm trying to stay away from them.

Looking at my past three orders, they've all taken about eleven days from the point that I order to the point that they ship out.
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>>29679171
TAG, tactical tailor, and BDS comes to mind immediately.

TAG has a pretty decent clearance section. I am not a big fan of their molle attachment system, but it works.
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>>29679114
here's an older one.
I really need to take updated photos.
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Getting a scope for my AR and /arg/ is useless as usual. Debating between a variable or a fixed prism scope. The candidates are a vortex strike eagle 1-6, a vortex spitfire, or a primary arms 5x.
Any experience with these? I used the strike eagle today and I liked it, but it was pretty big. If it helps, I would mount a small reflex sight on the prism scopes
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Ah, I guess these will work. My Eagle Scalable has velcro on the back too, I could use them on that carrier too.
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>>29679267
Thanks anon. Much appreciated.
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I know its ucp, but don't worry, I have "real" camo too. RG just looks fucking sexy with it though.

Thanks to the anon who told me about these mag pouches, these things are fucking awesome. Single or double stack, they are phenomenal.

>RG 1pc MAV w/ x harness
>BAE eclipse triplemag pouch
>TAG small utility pouch
>Eagle 1qt canteen pouch
I'll be putting an insert in to use as an IFAK
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>>29679311
Where did you get the Inquisition patch? Sexy as fuck
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>>29679278
>>29679311
It's you!
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>>29679331
Quick look at Etsy turned this up:
etsy com/ca/listing/207999322/game-inquisition-logo-symbol-warhammer
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>>29679235
It is what it is. We have become too used to ordering, being charged in minutes, and the product being shipped out the next day. I remember when you had no idea if you were charged until your statement was mailed out and not knowing if the product shipped until it showed up.
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>>29679351
>etsy com/ca/listing/207999322/game-inquisition-logo-symbol-warhammer
Sweet thanks
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>>29678831
>howard leight ear pro
I found them uncomfy

>3x Double Mag Pouch (front middle)
Have fun shooting prone

>IFAK pouch (Right side)
What I was taught it should go on your left, so it's on your medics right-hand side, but you do you.

>TQ pouch (between med pouch and mag pouches)
Just make sure you can get it with either hand and the more TQs the merrier

>Map pouch (left side)
If you have any plans on navigation innawoods, you better keep it in a location that it won't be a bitch to get in and out.

>suppressor pouch (between map and mags)
Sounds cool but you will be finger fucking the radio more than the suppressor IMO

>Radio (just left of map)
Again you would be finger fucking them comms more than you think.
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