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Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Anyone here with flat feet? My ankle is pretty much on the ground and I wear custom inserts in my shoes. I already run 3-5miles 2-3x a week but without my inserts, it is a mini nightmare to do that kind of distance. If you have flat feet, what was your experience like at basic and in military life?
Can anyone who was out of shape before joining the air force share some insight, advice, or stories?
I know it sounds weird but I need some support. I am planning on enlisting but I am still not in my best shape.
>>29651034
I have flat feet. Done 8 years in the Army with no problems to include sitting in a cockpit with 50 pounds of gear on your chest for over 12 hours. Just make sure you but quality boots and take care of your feet.
>>29651204
Thanks for the input. That is my biggest fear going in. I hear that I may not be able to take my inserts with me to basic.
Is getting a SEAL contract super difficult. I feel like with the SEALs being all over the media people are joining like crazy. I want to do some sort of Special Operations, and as a surfer living next to the ocean, it seems the most appealing to me.
>>29651162
What shape are you in now? Height weight and all that?
>>29651310
I am 5'5 ~166cm
My weight is about 153
Body fat is maybe around 20%~25% I haven't ever properly checked.
Problem is more physical activities.
I am shit at running. My sit-ups are alright. My pushups are bad. I am working on it all but I guess just the thought of being shit in training is my issue.
>>29651343
You're actually under your heights max weight limit. You can just go enlist right now. If you keep putting it off you'll never do it. Get the ball rolling with a recruiter and set the fire under your feet to force you to get better. Even if you dick around and go into basic as you are, the while point of basic is to get you in shape. Yeah it'll suck more if you're not in shape, but it's better than sitting around for months maybe doing some running and pushups here and there with no motivation.
>>29651414
No I am actual in the process of doing so. I am on the way to MEPS actually for my physical. I was having second thoughts because people are always saying if you come in shape you'll easily pass basic and etc.
>>29651439
I mean I'm still in dep right now so I can't really say how basic is, but when I signed with the Navy I could only do maybe 20 pushups straight, run a mile in like ten minutes and sucked complete dick with situps. But after a month and a half in dep I've improved to the point where I can pass the prt. Key is just to be consistent with whatever program you get yourself on and you'll make it no problem.
>>29651482
Thanks for the support, man. I'm trying my best.
Is being a nuke officer as shitty as a nuke enlisted? I was rejected for SWO and apparently I'm a good nuke candidate
I just want to serve already
going to MEPS monday, taking ASVAB+DLAB later in the week. got an 89 on practice ASVAB so my recruiter is worried that my line scores wont be high enough for the MOS i want. i'm trying for 35M, if that's not available i would take 35F. he said make a list of 10 jobs i'm interested in. i cant really think of 10 jobs besides the 2 i posted that i'm actually interested in. I'd be ok with any 35series except 35P, so 35S/G/Q, but these have similar line scores to mike and fox. 12Y, same thing.
based off my interests, any suggestions?
>yes, somewhere on the list i will put 11B/18X
When national guard inf gets deployed with 11b, do the nation guard guys get taken seriously? Are they hazed and such? I'd assume they would
Will my waivers stop me from lateral transfer from marines to the air force?
>>29652309
>wants to be 12Y
>considers 11B or 18X as well
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>29652543
the greentext was a joke, in the same vein as
>inb4 special forces ranger delta warrior
hey ots guy do you think AF OTS is hard to get into?
Does anyone know if they will let you take custom shoe inserts in? I am getting mixed answers and I don't trust my recruiter. I'm the flat footed guy from the beginning of the thread and running without my inserts is pure misery.
>>29652309
I think you should make a list of the jobs you want and not put yourself in a situation where you get a assigned a MOS that sucks.
If you want 35M or F, put that. And if he continues with the "lol no you need 10" shit, find a different recruiter.
The military is going to fuck you for at least 4 years, might as well have them fuck you doing a job you signed up for and wanted
>>29652309
here's what i've come up with, any experience with these jobs would be helpful.
>12M firefighter (longshot)
>12Y geospatial engineer
>15W UAV operator
>19D cav scout
>19K M1 armor crewman
>25B IT specialist
here's the one i really want
>35M Human Intelligence
and the backups i'm interested in
>35F Allsource intel
>35G geospatial intel
>35N signals intel analyst
>35Q crypto network warfare specialist
>35S signal collector/analyst
>35T military intel systems maintenance/ integrator
>37F psyops
who has the best quality of life? who has the best prospects outside of the army after separation?
>>29653084
I think they give you shoes according to your foot shape at basic
>>29653130
he's just worried about my score. i'm not great at math, i've been brushing back up on algebra so i do better on the real test. my "high score" of 88 on the practice test is because i got all of the word and reading/paragraph comprehension 100%. the other kid taking the practice test got 42 or something.
>>29652309
>yes I will put 11x on there
you better not m8, otherwise he will do everything he can to stuff you into infantry so you can get your boipussy stuffed into oblivion,
>>29653610
i'd go 18x if i got like a 60 or something on the ASVAB. is it possible to go 18x option 40?
>>29653651
nigga 18x has to do airborne
>>29653731
so do rangers, right? you go to airborne school before rasp
>>29653651
>60 on asvab
>18x
Wew lad
>>29653651
i want to know if its possible to get a 60 on the asvab
do you intentionally pick the wrong answers?
>>29653790
i should be more literal when i post. 18X needs a lower gt score than intel, that's all i meant. i don't think SF are dumb
>>29653781
yes, but you can't be SF and rangers at the same time
>>29653813
Nigga you gotta understand some pretty complex shit. Including DLI and all your Hooah tier courses
>>29653781
correct
>>29653804
like i said, the kid taking the practice test with me today got low 40s. the recruiter also told him he was 80 lbs overweight for his height.
i met a girl that got a 49 on the asvab trying to get in the navy
>>29653844
>navy grils as dumb as the mops they push
HIGHBTEST
>>29653827
there are no tabbed green berets? i'm just curious, i doubt i could get past either one's selection
>>29653864
There's a difference between ranger school and the regiment. Many guys go from the 75th to the Q course. Many ranger tab guys will assess SF.
>>29653864
tab isn't the same as being a ranger, you can go to ranger school, and get the tab,
>>29653891
so do they do 18X option 40 or do they go once they're in?
>>29651034
I didn't know I had flat feet until the meps doctor told me, asked me questions on if it hurt to walk, made me do a few more exercises to see if I could walkwithout pain.
I'm good and based know the fact that I didn't even know I had flat feet he told me I was good.
If I'd doesn't bother you then it ain't gonna bother them
>>29653153
sorry for getting sidetracked, i never should have mentioned any type of SOF
any experience with any of these? any cool ones i'm missing?
>recruiter always ends our meeting by asking me if I know anybody else that is interested in joining and if I do to send them his way
>keeps telling me I should do the buddy program and get a friend to enlist with me
>today asked me to log onto my google account and rate their station a 5, and give that facebook page a like and follow
I-is this normal?
I just wanted to sign up tp shoot things
Redpill me on 88K watercraft operators
>>29654110
Not a UAV guy but worked with them plenty overseas and stateside.
>>29654672
You're a greenhorn on a tug
>>29654672
You will drive a tugboat.
>>29654647
the battle buddy thing, i got that too. not the other parts though.
>>29654684
is it a decent job? are they pretty cool or are they miserable fucks?
>>29653153
>12M
Super rare, these guys serve with other armed forces cuz the army just contracts fire departments now.
>12Y
My new LT was one for 8 years before going green to gold. Never saw the field and looked at satellite images every day.
>15W
Self explanatory.
>19D
The shithole of the army. The shithole of the army. Hey, the shithole of the army. Wait, what? The shithole of the army. The shit.hole.of.the.army.
>19K
Chill in Abrams, start as driver or loader aka tank bitch. Work your way up to gunner then commander.
>25B
POG as fuck, fix hardware and software
>35M
Ahahaha...you will hate it.
>35series
Its just shitty to be this. You are a paper pushing bitch ass nobody. Nobody. Not even infantry gives a damn about. Infantry doesn't bitch about your job its so shitty to be a 35 series.
Note: you didn't pick the best job: 11x
>>29654647
While in dep I actually somehow got some guy to sign from my gym (he was probably going to sign on his own anyway) but I'm going in as an E-3 anyway so it doesn't matter
>>29654785
were you 11x?
elaborate more on 35m, please.
>>29650976
Hi there. I don't know if there are any 75th bat guys on here, but if anybody has any first or second hand experience with officers going through RASP, the process, etc. I would very much like to hear it.
>>29654844
11x now 11b
If you want to know where or not you'll be a 11B or 11C this is the 100℅ absolute how it happens
The national fucking guard.
At 30th AG all 11x AD are together but, the NG who decided 11B or 11C is there too. If you have 11B national guardsmen in your inprocessing company you will be 11B. If you have 11C national guardsmen in your inprocessing company you will be 11C.
>>29654844
You will be talking to fucking afghans and foreign people being the bitch for higher ups as a 35M.
Tadaaaa
>>29654913
Many infantry units send young 2nd and 1st LTs to ranger school but it doesn't mean they will be ranger units, they get the tab and stay with their unit for however long, usually a year.
>>29654913
all you need to do is say
>RANGER RICKY
3 times, and he'll appear in this thread.
>or you can spread misinformation about rangers and he'll come unfuck you
>>29654753
It's cozy, they had it good downrange
>>29654940
I understand that process, more interested in RASP selection for a 1st lieutenant in infantry, as I've been told butterbars aren't even considered for ranger batt.
>>29654919
i thought there was more to it than that. i am very interested in 35L, and i'm under the impression that mikes and foxes are the feeder MOSs to that position
>>29654940
Ugg. I had a 2lt straight the fuck out of my former platoon in the 82nd. Out of all the regiments and companies, plus the platoons, I land this fuckwad in my platoon in ranger school. He had already failed once, LOMed once got banned from retrying but got a waiver and wa-la - he's in my platoon. He was the biggest fucking pansy ever. We just left his ass lying on the appalachian trail and signaled for an RI to come police him up.
What a worthless fuck. A super embarrassment to my former unit that - by the fucking way - merits much pride and accolades.
>>29654996
Your unit will prioroiize you if you look legit. You don't call the fiucking shots just be high-speed.
>>29655013
POG POG POG POG POG
I lost my patience. Go sign a lazy ass boring ass contract, I do not care. They all suck, you will grow lethargic and be around fat girls who are whores, weird awkward nerds, overpushy NCO weirdos, stupid ass CSM and maybe even 1SG who have never deployed, and you will be around ex-infantrymen who got hurt and went POG and will hate you. As NCOs these are the best and worst. They will have no chill.
There is a plus I see to being a POG. Last week I had an intricate 45min conversation with our 25 series common guy. We talked about SKLs DAGRs BFTs and general common shit about his job . as an infantryman it is rare for me to find such intelligent people to socialize with imn this manner. Usually my nose is stuffed in the EIB handbook or I'm tackling a new guy and applying CATs or quizzing other joes when there's nothing to do.
>>29655051
Dude my old LT was the epitimy of Lt jokes
>ran over a fucking BRAND NEW NEWEST EDITION VECTOR
>WITH A STRYKER
>tried to call itr field loss
>incompetent beyond all fuck, let squad leaders make the calls after they tried to get him to lead
>got drunk puked in his STETSON AT A BALL
Fuxking infantry 2LTs man
Two questions: What's a battalion medic? What's a battalion medic do?
>>29655135
How do you get a one armed Lieutenant down from a tree?
You salute him.
>>29655147
Batt medic is the BCO (Batallion Commanding Officer) medic. He will roll with the higher ups. Does medic shit. Of course if he's high rank he will lead all of the medics in his batallion. Medics are in a platoon / company that gets dished out to the line units, first aid station, and hospital. Batallion medic will be the one in charge of the medic company
>>29655185
Thanks
>>29655091
if you couldn't tell by my list, yes i'm trying for POG jobs lol. thanks for the info, man
>Joining the military
Have fun dying for the jews
>>29655264
We don't die for any cause greater than our bros
11B or Cav Scout? and why
I wanna shoot and be shot at
>>29654720
Tugger?
>>29655264
>have fun wasting your time every thread saying this shit
>>29655327
DONT
EVER
PUT
THOSE
TWO
NEXT
TO
EACH
OTHER
GO 11X AND GET THE FUCK OUT
>>29655327
>I wanna shoot and be shot at
11X Opt 40, there are no 19D in the Ranger Regiment (the only place other than 18X where you'll have the chance of seeing combat still)
>>29655417
Isnt cav scouts just infantry with sniper rifles?
>>29655135
>stetson
>infantry
Why does everyone want to join 11b when it's peacetime?
Also when we aren't at peacetime, is 0311 or 11b safer? From what I've heard the marines actually have CQB and the army just mag dumps at mountains. Any truth to that?
>>29655446
>3CR
There's only 1 cav squadron, all else is infantry and arty
>>29655442
No retard. And cav only job is to tell the infantry where the enemy is.
>>29655449
Its not peacetime you fucking asshole. Brothers are still dying downrange. And no truth to that, they both do the same shit.
I'm going to be in Afghanistan in less than 30 days.
how shitty is nuke officer?
>>29655478
Only 3 people have died since 2016 and they were spec ops except for 1 army Sargent. Suck my dick
>>29653844
>girl got a 49 on ASVAB
Highest in recorded history
>>29655498
That's fucking FUNNY. Last deployment a guy lost his leg in the troop 2 doors down. My PLT RTO got shot through the pantleg an inch from his femoral artery.
THERE WERE MORE GREEN ON BLUE INCIDENTS IN 2016 THAN YOU KNOW
>>29653153
>who has the best quality of life? who has the best prospects outside of the army after separation?
35Q on both counts, but it is another tier above just "desk job". You won't just sit at a desk, you will make love to it for your entire career. If WW3 kicks off, even the other 35 series will probably be deployed to support line units with tactical intelligence. 35Q and the rest of cyber will remain stateside doing strat work in the basement. Fucking awesome if that's your thing, but don't touch this MOS if you want to do stereotypical armyman stuff.
>>29655498
>Sargent
Brush your teeth and go to bed, sport.
>>29654647
Welcome to recruiting in the 21st century. They probably get a lot of recruits from social media.
>>29654919
>Infantryman implying 35-series are merely pawns for higher ups.
Kek
>>29655761
More brotherhood in the infantry world. We don't give a fiuck about higher ups, we care about each other! And poundcake in our MREs.
>>29655775
>maybe today i will get poundcake in my MRE
Literally the high point of an infantryman's life. Have fun being a janitor while intel bros do real work, get cushy life, civilian job prospects, and more deployment opportunities.
>mfw infantry buddy I joined with 3 years ago still hasn't got a deployment
>mfw I have turned down two deployments as intel because they're opt-in
>mfw I have no face
>>29655775
Roger.
Follow me!
>>29655809
>mfw you realize I will be in Afghanistan in less than a month
>>29655718
not really what i want desu, same as 35G. sounds good on paper, but in reality probably sucks dick. thanks for the info, bro.
>>29654844
Go to the army Reddit they'll guide you
>>29656305
i hate it there, but thanks I'll give it a shot. may make a thread about it here first, vets seem to avoid /meg/ like the plague usually
>>29655492
Go ask on reddit, you'll get nothing but memes about nukes here
>>29656340
You may hate it there buts it's a damn good resource
anyone have any info on psyops? what is a day in the life like?
>>29657102
I was in flight school with a psyops guy who thought he was a long tabber because he worked around them. Huge tool.
>>29657136
fair enough, but was his JOB cool?
>>29657193
>dumpin pamphlets from the air
I dunno
>>29657241
is this really all they do?
>>29657302
Burn korans too
>>29657302
they gotta make the pamphlets too
well word templates do that now
>>29657102
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081127205611AAkPAtV
mostly leaflets. some loudspeakers.
>>29655809
As someone in Intel tech school, this makes me feel good.
>>29651162
>>29651343
You can improve your run time by 5 minutes in basic and nearly triple,your pushups and sit ups if you are really trying. Of you're not really trying- get the fuck out and stay the fuck out.
>>29655264
I await the sweet feeling of the fleeting nature of life every day. My weapon has seen horrors. Sometimes, when I look down the bore, the bore looks back into me.
>>29655417
>reeeeeeeee: the post
>>29655498
>sargent
>suck my dick
Wew
>>29655809
Triple chocolate pound cake. The gold standard of Survival School.
Infantry poolee fag here looking for some guidance. I only scored a 55 on my ASVAB which I already know is fucking shit, it's not that I'm a literal tard, I've just always been horrible at taking tests. I learn quickly with mechanics and generally anything and everything that's hands on, but book smarts shit like advanced math and science has always been my weakness. Anyways, enough bullshitting, will my autists-tier score hurt my chances of getting into the cool kid schools like airborne, air assault, and eventually getting to RASP? I'm fucking solid on a physical fitness standpoint but just worried about my score. Any advice is appreciated.
I want to become a 13F or a job similar. What is the best way to get that job? Also can I do that in the National Guard on day as well?
>>29658052
You need to have gotten the option for airborne in your contract at meps
>>29658163
I became airborne qualified but the airborne slot wasnt available, will i have the chance to get it in basic?
Any combat engineers here? It's sounding like the best bang for my buck
>>29658303
in the cock box as we speak
AMA
>>29658226
You have a chance, but it's just difficult, and I don't belive your asvab will affect it. Sometimes there are slots that open due to people dropping out, and I believe after you get to your first duty station you can request to be sent and they'll determine if they want to spend the money on sending you.
>>29658323
The fuck is a cock box?
How do I become a small UAV operator? Those little things are the shit. Do I become an 11B and then get qualified or go 15W? I'm not a big fan of the really big ones that need a run way or a trailer.
>>29658323
What are the best/shittiest parts of the job? Would you recommend going for EOD instead?
>>29651258
Be sure you can surpass the physical requirements and people drop out because of mental fortitude.
>>29657925
Hey, I'm going to meps at the end of the month, I got an 89 on my asvab and I've been looking at 1A3x1, there's not much info on it. Sorry to ask you I feel you might know someone who does this job, do they enjoy it? Pls respond :)
>>29659970
>89
>getting anything below a 95
Back story is I'm about to finish my freshman year at college. Good school, out of state from my home. Doing well.
>Applied for NROTC scholarship. Have 33 act, 90 asvab, great physical condition, even the interview went great. Get phone call to try again next year, Fuck that I'm going PLC.
>Call recruiting office and inform them I'm interested in PLC. Sgt. remembers me, generally friendly. Hands me off to someone who does officer recruiting.
>talk to him, says I meet all the requirements and I'm a steal to get. Generally butters me up.
>tell him I want aviation and he says with my 20/20 vision he can guarantee me. But only if I move to his AO. Tells me he doesn't like my chances in my current area. Does the complete salesman routine to get me.
>previous Sgt had forgot to inform him hat I do live in his AO and have since I was born, and that I was only away for college. I tell him I come back for the summer and actually visit regularly.
>this clearly surprises him and he checks with his commander to verify. Tells me to call him next time I'm visiting so he can set up an interview.
>I realize address he gives me for their office is same one I went to for the NROTC scholarship interview. Same CO doing the interview too. We hit it off last time so I'm pretty confident. 3 weeks to go, wish me luck. I better fucking get aviation...
>>29655809
CTI hopeful here, do i take the D LAB before I join the navy officially?
>>29660077
come on with these digits i deserve a prompt answer.
>>29659977
I got a 66 (!!!) on my asvab but still had a 117 GT score.
Even with a retard-low score I still qualified for intelligence MOS, don't put too much weight in the asvab score. GT is where it's at
>>29660100
>66
Are you illiterate?
That score just says you really really really suck at basic literacy tasks and basic math.
>>29660110
Maybe he does, pal.
>>29659977
I did my best coach
>>29659977
93 while up for 26 hours and without food for the same. goml
>>29660127
You're okay
Sleep deprivation is no joke.
>>29660134
i cried a little bit but i made it through thanks for your concern
>>29660148
Happy to help :^)
>>29660125
dude 89 means you did better than 89% of the people who have ever taken the test, chill.
>>29660184
I think a lot of people forget about that when talking about scores
So what rate could I get with a 99 asvab
>>29660209
anything but cyber warfare engineer
cia will probably contact you
I'm leave for air force basic in may I got a missile and space system maintenance. Pretty happy that I will get to help shoot shit into space and shoot missile at "bad" people.
>>29660276
>chairforce
>ever
where were you when God was distributing testicles LOL
>>29660371
i'll distribute these testicles on your chin, bitch
>>29660276
Nice dude, I'm the guy up above wondering about airborne mission systems operator, but that Job is on my list too, good luck broskies
will blisters on my heel be a problem for MEPS?
Ive been trying to run more, but my new shoes give me blisters :/
>>29661040
you're doing it wrong, take the shoes back and tell them you have blisters from it, either they'll give you a refund or help you not be a fuckup
>>29661040
>>29661124
oh and just explain why they're there, should be fine
If I joined the national guard (I'm 21 btw) would I still have time to go do shit I wanted, going out with friends and stuff and all that. I don't exactly wanna throw the 9 years of youth I have left away into the trash.
but I do want to serve my community somehow.
sorry if it's a dumb question.
I'm supposed to fill out 10 years of work history, but i can only remember back to maybe 2009 specific places and addresses. and they want supervisors names including middle, and numbers. wtf
>>29659977
What's your job in the military fagit? I got a 77
I made the recruiter checkem
>>29659970
Airborne missions systems (1A4, 1A3 is no longer used) is pretty cool I guess. All aircrew goes through the 344 TRS, so I knew a few. Pretty much a computer job that is on a plane desu, and working comms. I would go 1a9 (my job, gunner and flight engineer) or 1a2 (loadmaster) if I was going aircrew. That being said, the worst aircrew job is better than the best non-aircrew job. DO NOT go into security forces, materials management, or contracting (to name a few). Stay in the books during tech school. Aircrew training is long and challenging. My BSMAC (basic special missions aviation course) had a 75 percent fail out rate, the highest of any job trained at the 344th. (went in with 10 came out with 3, one of which was washed back from a earlier class) but it is very rewarding and we make fucking BANK.
>>29661320
yes
>>29661364
could you elaborate?
also I'd like to further know just what the NG does and would it benefit my career once I leave at all?
>>29661320
Plenty of social time but I must say, some of the wildest times I ever had were on NG weekends. Once we were tasked with doing a 50 mile Escape and Evade over a vast wintery land during a 48 hour window. Out of pure coincidence, a member of my patrol had a family member who lived near the middle of our route. We hoofed it, made it there, 9 paratroopers and rangers stood outside of a suburban home in the middle of no-where United States and rang the door bell. Lots of nosey neighbors. His sister opened the door, brought us all in from the freezing temps, fed us hot chow and made us comfortable. We took showers, hung out in the hot tub and drank margaritas.
The next morning, we packed up and humped the last 20 miles.
Of course we all chipped in cash to cover our displacement.
>>29661381
That's great; thanks for the story, did you like your time in the NG also how long were you in for?
>>29661393
I really enjoyed my time in the NG. I spent four years as NG. My initial four years were active duty - infantry, airborne and ranger. My NG time was all LRS. In NG LRS, you're able to pick up real world assignments. Doing counter drug recon and conduction of aviation drug investigations. It's real world operations with either local, county, state or federal law enforcement. You typically train them on STANO. The money is great!
>>29661428
thanks for the info dude, I'll look into it more take care brother.
>>29661338
seriously, THIS is the real reason people join at 17-18 years old.
>>29661360
Really? Wow I had no idea it was that tough, but thanks for your input, what could I do to prepare for it, is it a lot of running or something? But anyways thanks a lot for the response. I heard special mission aviators don't have a lot of prospects outside? But that job sounds really badass I'll consider it now in my list.
>>29661719
No, the physical requirement is to pass your annual or no annual pt test, same as the rest of the air force. It is a MENTAL challenge. You get 13 college credits for BSMAC. You have to be smart and know how to multitask and study, and be willing to be either in class or studying most of the day. Be willing to go through survival school and be in training for up to a year (a year and a half if you are selected for CV-22s)
We are gunners/flight engis on AC-130s, UH-1Ns, HH-60Gs, CV-22s and we do a little work for the CIA on occasion. If you want in, good luck to you, it is a wonderful job that is critically undermanned, and there are 26 slots available in FY 2016. (26 slots to fill, they will bring in as many make it. Probably 260ish are selected a year to go through BSMAC)
>>29661957
Bi-annual
>>29661963
bi-annual PT test*
FFS the LG V10 phones auto correct is awful
>>29661957
Holy shit that sounds amazing, you've just opened a whole new world. None of this type of info is on YouTube or anything. thanks a bunch man, I really wanna do this now, you're doin gods work pal. Also anything else u wanna add about ur job ??
>>29662011
For example: your average day
>>29654672
This, going to MEPS tomorrow for it
>>29661973
I'm using V10 right now. I love it. Learn to operate the dog gone thing.
How do I become a small drone operator in the Army?
>>29662680
11x
>>29662680
http://m.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/transportation-and-aviation/unmanned-aerial-vehicle-operator.m.html
How do I get over the desire to do coolguy stuff?
>>29663220
talk to any SF or ranger when they are 40 and see how broken and fucked up they are
>>29650976
If I wanted to use my CS degree to work in the tech department of a PMC or similar where would I look?
Just want to let you guys know that some people have actually been taking your advice. Got MEPS tomorrow. Hopefully they don't find any reason to DQ me.
>>29663535
I'm going Monday, good luck senpai
>>29651034
>have flat feet
>stress fracture in boot camp
>continue having it from phase 1 until the school house, about 5 months of limping around, every step hurts
>out for 6 months on LIMDU in the fleet
>pt for about 8 months
>another stress fracture, out for 3 months
>pt for about 4 months
>i can feel another fracture coming
Fuck my faggot flat fleet, fucking running, fuck the marine's stupid regulations on what fucking boots you can wear
>>29663592
>marines
i was waiting for the punchline
>>29663696
Okay
>>29663744
>something physically wrong with you
>join most physically demanding branch
>expecting anything other than what you experienced
How do I get a copy of my DD-214? I've been out for about 2.5 years now and am finally getting my shit together...
>>29663766
>most physical branch
>manlet memerines
>>29663535
Don't flinch during the group physical inspection, especially when you drop on your knees
>>29663816
say whatever you want about marines, but their training is how it should be. i see tons more fat army and af guys than marines
>t. army
>>29663926
Lol ok
The army recruiter said I had a good shot for OCS but I don't really like the army and already submitted a packet with the Navy. Should I just go through with it?
>>29664095
find me 10 pics of each branch please
>>29663535
Just be prepared to listen to instructions carefully and don't take anything anyone says personally. They claim you're not in the military yet and they won't treat you like it but of course they do it anyway, and you get shitbags who hate their lives and who will get mad at you for not knowing what to do when they haven't even told you yet. Some dumbass forgot to take off his shoes while going through security and got the whole group lectured outside for 20 minutes at 4 in the morning.
>tfw fell for nuke meme
Hold me, /meg/
>>29663370
Anyone know?
>Going to MEPS next Wednesday
>listed that I took no supplements or medications on my paperwork
>In reality I take creatine POWDER erryday
>dat post creatine bump buzz
I didnt even think of it till just now, and google says that It may make me fail a piss test! :/
Should I make up some BS so I can delay my MEPS trip? would 8 days be enough to get it out of my system??
>>29664734
just list it in supplements
its not an issue
Just took a practice AFQT(I can't tell the difference between this and ASVAB) and got an 81 or 81%. Any fast-paced or truly fulfilling MOSes I can get with that in the Navy?
>>29665127
>/MU5T4NG
streaming what?
>>29664095
well he did say guys....
>>29664734
don't take it day of because of proteins in urine
How much down time is there at MEPS? Is bringing a book considered bad etiquette?
For the USAF, what is the general opinion of Secruity Forces Specialists and it's training?
It is something I am considering, that and seeing if I could eventually throw throw it so far to do contracting work in secuirty way in the future.
>>29661360
Can you explain why NOT to go in to it? From what I've read they're all over the place and serve with a lot of other groups from SEALS to Marines depending on deployment.
>>29665614
A lot. And I wouldn't. You carry around a lot of papers and have to deal with grumpy people.
>>29665710
>For the USAF, what is the general opinion of Secruity Forces Specialists and it's training?
So many teenagers trying to deconflict "join the Air Force, it has the best quality of life" and "the Air Force is all boring desk jobs" end up choosing SecFo. You're an MP for the Air Force, you will be standing around guarding bases.
>seeing if I could eventually throw throw it so far to do contracting work in secuirty way in the future.
I have an uncle that does "contracting work in security". Ever heard of Securitas? Mall cops? You start out making $9/hr~, and could even make as much as a whole $13/hr if you work your way up. Typical duties include standing at gates and "patrolling" properties at night (read: sleeping in your truck). That's what 99 % of "security contracting" is, not being a bodyguard for movie stars or escorting CEOs in Iraqistan.
Planning on joining pic related once I finish with uni. Any former members of the regiment have any advice and things to tell me about?
>>29665710
>security forces
lol. where's ivy when you need "her"
>>29665838
Im in Texas, recently lost my job in the oil and gas industry. There are shit loads of secuirty jobs, ones that pay way above the going rate, but what about PMC work, I am aware they look to the elite of all forces, but for static guards?
>>29664551
Hey me too, I actually wanted to do it and still do though. Just waiting for my clearance to go through, see you in Charleston :^)
>>29664551
>>29665905
my recruiter is sending me to talk to some dude to send me to san diego for NUPOC
how shit is it
>>29664734
Just list it, it doesn't matter. Just don't take protein powder just in case. Also don't jack off the night before the tests.
>>29665614
There's a shit ton of down time, but you aren't supposed to have anything with you. You don't want to fall asleep or miss someone calling you either because they hate their jobs as it is anyways. I hate to sit and wait three hours after medical to speak to a rater.
>>29665614
IS MEPS a military base or a contracted Doctors Office?
>>29665928
Ask to speak to actual nukes and read more on reddit, all you get on /k/ are memes about nuke. After speaking to a few people I decided it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, and a lot of problems seem to stem from people at nuke school being too immature and uninformed as to what exactly they signed up for. Getting to leave power school as an e-4 sounded nice to me too. Honestly have no idea what life's like as a nuclear officer though.
for army ocs is it needs of the army? seems like i'd get stuck in some super shitty part of the army
>>29665966
Neither. It is a government run building.
>>29666025
OML
>>29664199
I would never fucking pick the army over the navy.
>>29666220
Depends what job you're going for.
>>29666224
No. The army treats its personnel as subhuman.
>>29666235
>implying the rest of the military doesn't
>>29666224
>>29666220
thats how i feel but i just want to leave already
and the navy just rejected me for swo and i gotta wait for june for the next board
so sick of waiting
fuck the army man i wish there was a war so i could just enlist as a muhreen. AF ots apparently is stupid hard to get into
>the american military is literally shilling on 4chan
wew lad, now i've seen it all
>>29666250
Not like the army does. The air force takes care of its people, and the navy is second. Army treats its people like shit.
>>29665839
Nothing? No Brits on this thread?
>>29666264
>imblying the military would make the effort to try and recruit fat neets
>>29665878
If you want PMC work you need actual skills. That means either coolguy stuff (SOF experience, tabs, deployments) or spooky skills (linguistic/analytical/cyber stuff and a bunch of clearances).
You will find neither of those things in SecFo.
>>29666305
Just wait until we have the US CyberForce.
Will a person's medical history be checked for a Secret clearance if no reason to look into it is given?
If so, should I do a 15/91 series MOS or 12b/19k?
>>29666400
Also, which MOS has the least CoDfags and fat women?
>>29666264
>being this fucking new
WEW LAD DESU SENPAI BAKA XD
>>29666299
wait a few hours, its all british or australia
>>29658052
>A 55 on the ASVAB
>WELCOME TO 11B, SOLDIER!
>>29666373
Yeah, I figured.
>>29666400
There's a very small chance. They can try to check if they want, but they don't have the time to check every recruits medical records. Unless you disclose it yourself or somehow reveal yourself, they're not going to find out. Only times I've ever heard of people getting their records checked is when they do something to get them self put under the microscope.
>>29660110
He don't need none o'them fancy book learnins! He just needs to shoot the a-rabs full o'freedoms!
>Be sophomore in college
>Walk into Marine recruiters office
>Tell them I want to be a pilot
>They schedule appointment with officer recruiter the next day
?
Everyone on these threads said officer recruiters were a pain in the ass to find and you had to hunt them down practically.
>>29666400
I have a secret clearance. All officers do. I cut my hand on a bottle and had 7 stitches and broke an ankle skateboarding. Never told them.
>>29666713
It's a process man. They're more willing to work with you because you're already in school and can still do ROTC
>>29666503
If I owe around $3k in medical bills is that substantial enough for them to check what I went to the ER for?
>>29666752
So you're saying they want to scoop me up before I run off to ROTC?
>>29663360
I wanna shoot stuff with an m240l and throw grenades.
Is 11b good for me ? I also wanna kill haji.
If you subvol, what are the odds you actually end up on a submarine?
>>29666814
the real question is why someone would actually want to be on a sub
>>29666819
>wanting to be a target nuke
inb4
>wanting to be a nuke
Who here /91b/ ?
>>29666759
I'd say probably. The thing is there's no way of noting for certain. Shit owing that much may disqualify you for service in the first place if it's overdue.
>>29655446
Cav units are a mixture of infantry and armor officers. There's no such thing as a cav officer.
>>29666814
Highly likely
>>29666800
you're a recruiter's wet dream, get some
>>29667193
I sense sarcasm is this true?
>>29667205
Yes
>>29667205
i was being serious
>>29667024
Excellent, thanks.
Do you fill out a dream sheet for Atlantic/Pacific and/or SSN/SSBN/SSGN? Or do you just get your papers and go?
Any NG men here? Contemplating enlisting as 35 series ir transport in a few years. Is the 20 year commitment worth the benefits and retirement?
Also
Is army BCT the same among all mos's, or does it vary based on mos and your ds?
>>29667369
So then 11b I kinda wanna also shoot the big guns on top of humvees what the fuck do I tell a recruiter
>>29667602
Tell him that.
>>29667545
When you volunteer it's just a yes/no question. I'm still in dep waiting for my clearance. I asked around and the consensus seemed to be that if you volunteered you were probably gonna get it as there aren't that many volunteers.
>>29666794
You're in a good position where you're at the cusp of either doing ROTC and taking a scholarship or going the ocs route
>>29666967
Don't tell the cavalry that. One of my task force SPs signed all his memos with his branch as CAVALRY
>>29667719
What a toolbox.
We always tried to balance out the battalion leadership so that there would be at least one of each. Not sure how the company grade officers are managed.
Assuming someone came in as an E-1, how long would it take for them to reach E-5 in the Navy? Do most people reach this rank by the end of their term?
>>29667968
That depends entirely on rating. I've seen a CTN make E5 with about a year in.
>>29666419
MARSOC and admin respectively.
>>29666250
>earn respect
people have such a problem with this concept. you start from scratch in the navy. none of what you were previously matters.
>>29668115
>MARSOC
0372
>>29666962
I just asked my recruiter about debt. I have about a thousand in credit card debt (on purpose to build credit - I have enough in checkings to pay it all back) and he said debt's only a problem if your account is delinquent.
>>29668164
im a navy dude i dont know shit about the marines yet. im hoping to go CTI or green side corpsman if CTI doesn't work out.
>>29668022
Well I mean starting as an e-1. They probably went in as an e-3
>>29668230
Wasn't going after you anon, just shooting you the actual MOS
>>29668186
1k in debt is literally nothing, even an e1 can pay that in 2 months.
>>29667608
Awesome.
