what's wrong with this picture?
>>29571013
Nothing, it's a way to fuck over the nanny state anit-gun types because it allows freedom.
>>29571013
It makes me erect
>>29571013
>>29571027
Further, I'd take an Ares SCR over a Ruger mini-14/mini-30 any day of the week.
>>29571013
It makes me wanna buy it.
>>29571013
I don't have one?
the more i see them i might buy one. would fit way better in the safe without the damn pistol grip
>>29571013
From a utilitarian perspective, it would probably be difficult to rationalize buying one over a regular, fully featured AR15.
However, if you live in a ban state I see them as a great alternative, they look a lot better than neutered AR15s. I'd buy one over a Mini 14/30 if I couldn't have an AR15.
The only downside is that the BCG/buffer system is proprietary. It would be cool if they could find a way to make it so you could drop in your own mil spec upper, so that people in ban states could build a gucci upper and just use the Ares lower.
>>29571225
>It would be cool if they could find a way to make it so you could drop in your own mil spec upper
this is not possible?
I heard the only issues with these was the crappy trigger.
They look fantastic, if AR-15s weren't restricted where I live I would buy one of these just because I like weird guns.
>>29571241
>I heard the only issues with these was the crappy trigger.
I read a review that claims the gen 2 version is much better.
>>29571225
You can use your own upper, and your own bolt, it just requires the pivoting carrier.
There isn't anything stopping you from making an SCR in .300, .458 or .50
>>29571225
>>29571235
you can buy an SCR lower and slap on any milspec upper. You can use your own bolt, you just have to use the proprietary carrier.
>>29571235
I may be wrong, is the BCG compatible with mil spec uppers?
>>29571235
>>29571265
>>29571270
I'm >>29571225.
I didn't realize that, cool.
>tfw I live in a free state and I still want one
>>29571013
I like the fact it looks like it could be configured like a Scout Rifle. Can I ask what gun that is?
>>29571307
Read the thread fgt
Ares ACR
>>29571316
Fuck, I meant SCR, now I'm just shitposting.
>>29571307
Its an ARES SCR lower with some AR upper on it.
I'm gonna get one even though I live in a free state, mostly because I prefer the feel of traditional rifle stocks over pistol grips.
>>29571290
Yes, you could put on an old M16A1 or GAU-5 upper and it'll work, as long as you use the Ares bolt-carrier.
Though it'll probably count as an SBR with the GAU upper.
>>29571013
I think it's neat. I'd prefer a wooden buttstock, but that's because I have shit taste.
>>29571225
Has anyone SBR'd an SCR? That would make my pants fit tight.
>>29571451
I think you could modify some Remington 1100 stocks to work or something like that.
Or just get a custom made set.
>>29571013
It doesn't have an orange tip.
>>29571469
I think so.
>>29571469
Here's one.
Would probably look rad with a curved mag.
>>29571225
you can sorta drop in your own upper
you can use all upper parts except the bolt carrier
just drop the bolt into the Ares bolt carrier
>>29571013
The upper is neither in an A1 or A2 config.
I want to make a .300BLK SBR for funsies.
>>29571225
You can put any upper you want on it, you just have to use their bolt carrier.
I have a Daniel Defense M4V11Pro on mine.
I'm at work now, I'll take pics when I get home.
>>29571241
The 2016 ones have better triggers, and if you have an old one you can send it in to get the upgrade.
These are ugly as fuck
What the hell is wrong with you people
>>29575300
Tasteless trash detected
>>29575300
AWB compliance, you faggot, they can't ban these without outright banning semi-autos, which they can't do.
>>29572768
Imagine making this then sbrring and then put a giggle switch on this.
>>29575425
Speaking of which, if you have a Colt SP-1 upper, could a (registered) Lightning Link work with that or would I have to get a gunsmith to modify the lower receiver and bolt-carrier?
>>29575362
This. They want to ban AR's and find any way to do it besides name. Because big black scary rifles kill better than old fuddy duddy wood ones.
A plinker's .22 ar 15 with accessories to them is a full auto child killer. An old bolt action is a perfectly legal hunting gun. An M1 is how you get them to engage double think and have a stroke.
>>29575300
Literally the best weapons available in AWB states.
>>29571013
If its internally an AR, where is the buffer tube???
>>29575362
Not an AR fan but I would own one of those in wood. Would be fun to take to a range and have people wonder what I was shooting.
>>29576290
it uses a proprietary bolt that functions similarly to a FAL.
>>29571013
This exists because slave states like California and New York exist.
>>29571027
NY resident confirms also fuck safe act
>>29576617
New York yes.
California all you need is a bullet button, which is laughably easy to legally bypass
>>29571013
the guy at tfb.tv said they were nice.
its kind of a throwback, like a BAR or something
>>29576787
Thing is, they could look to ban pistol grips and bullet buttons too some day, but with this rifle, they CAN'T ban it, it has a rifle grip, so it HAS to pass, and they CAN'T ban semi-automatics or detachable magazines, it is literally a completely featureless rifle that can't be legislated away without a RADICAL change in the political landscape.
>>29575362
OHH I'm having an erection.
God damn I love fudded 'salt rifles.
>>29571013
I've held one at a gun shop: pretty nice actually. Still would get a regular AR instead though.
>>29576902
>Thing is, they could look to ban pistol grips and bullet buttons too some day
and ill have one considered to be preban
>>29571013
There's no .308 version.
>>29577398
Yes, but what about those who don't?
>>29575749
Because bolt actions have never killed anyone right?
>>29577794
OMG, that would be a sexy deer gun.
>>29578331
Yeah, WW1 never existed, neither were any of the late 1800's to early 1900's colonial wars with Europeans and Americans killing Asians and Africans.
>>29571013
It's not tactical enough.
>>29575362
Looks like a mas and ar lovechild.
Honestly just save some money and buy a Kel-Tec SU-16. There is a fixed stock CA compliant version.
>>29571013
>what's wrong with this picture?
Not in wood desu baka senpai
>>29571013
It's not compatible with an ar57 upper.
>>29580260
>Honestly just save some money and buy a Kel-Tec SU-16
Uh, you know the Kel-Tec is cheaper right? That The complete Ares SCR is an 700-800 dollar rifle and the lower by it self sells for 500?
Also you know the Kel-Tec is all polymer, not even a stainless steel skeleton receiver like a beneli super nova right? The entire rifle stock receiver and reciever is polymer and I can "squish" the whole rifle or flex the frame, I know because I just handled one today at my local gun shop.
Not Implying Polymer is bad or hate glocks, but the Ares SCR is Mil Spec Forged Aluminum.
What I will imply is that Kel-Tec products are hit or miss with their quality control and that I'd rather have a metal gun which is just as light weight as the Kel Tec, but Have something that allows me to use any AR-15 upper and AR-15 Accessories instead of having a plastic proprietary toy rifle with a pencil barrel.
So really >>29580260
Your statement should be hey just save money and buy an Ares SCR, or say hey, the Ares SCR is too expensive, buy the Kel-Tec, but keep in mind it's a plastic gun.
is it normal to pay 500+ for a lower only?
>>29580289
Why isn't it?
>>29581107
ar57 uses a very non-standard bolt.
>>29571225
How much does it weigh? I like long gun look, was thinking to get a Saiga but I like to keep things light.
>>29580260
>>29580740
The SU-16 isn't really a -bad- rifle but it is concieved as budget .223 rifle, and this shows, it's more or less trying to take the place that the old Mini-14 used to, an affordable .223 autoloader.
The Ares SCR is however a radically superior choice (unless you're a poorfag, in which case the SU-16 isn't that bad, they're designed to be cheap, yes, but they're not Vulcan Arms tier or anything, it won't fall apart in your hands like it's held together with pritstick).
Kel-Tec aren't a thouroughly bad quality brand, thing is, they devote more or less quality depending on the gun. Their pocket pistols are made to lower standards and in larger batches, because they know that makes money (and you don't really need to spend a lot of money to make a blowback pocket pistol), the PLR-16, SU-16 and Sub2000 are made to a more coherent (but cheap) standard, and the KSG and RFB are actually quite decent.
>>29575749
like a garand? why? just because its a military service rifle with wood furniture?
>>29581186
Semi auto service rifle with wood furniture with an 8 round clip. Can be modded and or seperate models exist which are big scary salt rifles with 10+ mags and all kinds of tactical.
Asking them what makes an M1 a good gun but a socom a bad one makes them stroke out. At least the last time I brought it up they did.
>>29581185
If you can get your hand on it.
Keltec 223 are picky eaters right?
>>29581186
Because the Garand has none of the scary baby-killing features. It's got a fixed magazine, for one. Realistically though, the only offensive bit is the bayonet lug and 99 of 100 Democrats don't know what that is or where it's located.
The Ares SCR is the same. It has none of the scary features but can be easily configured to have most all of them. I'm personally torn on whether I prefer the SU-16 or the SCR.
>>29581219
I heard they stepped up their production recently.
As if they're picky, I don't know, I didn't put any Wolf or Tula through it or anything so I don't know.
I never hear anyone complain about the ammo it eats, but maybe they just assume it's because it's cheap if they do.
>>29581247
I seen it blown up cuz over pressure or ammo too much.
Keltec makes interesting stuff, but materials used seems flimsy.
wish they made a single tube KSG.
>>29575425
>full-giggle suppressed .300blk in a SBR with hunting rifle aesthetics, with a banana clipazine full of ammo
>this is fully possible in our reality
>>29575362
That wood gives me wood
>>29579942
>>29581004
You can build an AR10 for damn near 400 if you watch sales.
So I would say 500 is high for a normal lower, most of the time the parts that people make high quality are in the upper.
>>29581441
Someone made an SCR in 458 socom so they could use STANAG mags while staying legal.
>>29581525
I'm rather proud of it:
>no front sight
>carry handle
>canted iron sights
>canted red dot
>sig brace
>nycuck stock
>three grips
>5 round pinned 10 round magazine
>ranger plate
>bullet button
>>29581121
Do you think a custom bolt-carrier could be made?
I think it would look like a really slick SBR if properly mated.
>>29571013
No drum mag or bipod.
It's like your not even trying.
>>29581137
Well I think the receiver itself is machined aluminum, like most AR lowers, and the stock is molded plastic, so it should be reasonable durable and light for what it is.
If you stick an aluminum upper on it, and use a plastic handguard instead of some needlessly weighty quad-rail shit, that'd be better too.
Also while the Nam style 20 rounders look rad, Magpul and Lancers are better quality and weigh less. H&K makes steel magazines, which are high quality, but they cost and weigh much more.
If you're in a ban state, there are various wedges and knicknacks for attaching two magazines at their bottoms (hell, you can even kick it oldschool and use tape, like Tony Montana), so a 10 rounder can have a 10 rounder on it's ass, and you can reload rapidly by taking it out and flipping it, giving you a capacity of 10+10+1, which isn't bad at all considering how the state tried to cuck you.
If you want to cut weight further, you can get a pencil profile barrel, but keep in mind that it'll get warmer faster and thus groupings open up faster, so accuracy will suffer more with repeated rapid firing, and you'll have to wait for it to cool down again if you want the groupings to shrink.
>>29581441
Put wooden furniture on it and the atf won't know what to think.
>>29571953
they should make a pistol lower thats just cut off at the back of the grip for people who want ar pistols.
>>29582051
an ar57 isn't really an ar, it can just mate to ar lowers.
How like a single shot upper isn't an ar.
>>29583388
I'm moving to MD soon, so I'm looking for the most outrageous ban-evading fudd gun I can build
Thanks for the gonzo inspiration...
>>29583607
SCR will be your best rifle, or a Mini-14
Be aware that Maryland treats it's people like animals and getting a gun license is going to be a bunch of bullshit, you need THREE non-relatives that you know, to vouch for you, then there's some lawyer shit.
>>29571013
No buffer tube?
>>29583470
Like a bit of a Mare's Leg aesthetic? That'd be radical.
The buffer-tube is kind of long, but if you wanted it shorter, you could probably make an even shorter variant, like a normal AR pistol.
>>29584086
It's in the stock, son.
>>29575362
Holy shit that furniture
>>29584066
I thought Maryland didn't require a license for anything but handguns and "assault" weapons?
But yeah, part of me wants to pay a former co-worker to make threats on my life so I can fudge my way into a CCW permit.
>>29584990
>>29584066
But yeah, I was thinking an SCR build or going quasi-normie and getting an AR-10 derivative, as the retards in the O'Malley administration exempted them because they weren't well known/scary enough.
At least the Benelli M4 is still legal...
