Does anyone here carry a 1911? How does it stack up against other CC pistols? Since I'm a tall guy, I figure a shoulder holster should make it disappear, and I love the way they feel in my hand.
It's heavy as shit, but it's carries very slim. As long as you have a good holster, you're fine. If you carry IWB, make sure it's got two clips, as wide as you can get them.
>>29471450
I don't think IWB would be a great idea for me. I do a lot of sitting, which is why I use a Tok in a shoulder holster right now.
I carry a Colt Lightweight Officer IWB at 1 o'clock. With a Smartcarry holster I can sit, drive, move around pretty comfy.
The holsters don't last long, though.
>>29471562
Have you ever felt like it "wasn't enough gun", for lack of a better term? Does the lack of capacity as compared to a Sig or something bother you?
>>29471656
My wife doesn't complain and i dont brag
>>29472063
But seriously, though. I like the 1911, but I'm conflicted. People shit on me already for CCing a single-stack (even though I love 7.62x25), is capacity really that much of a concern, especially with a larger round like .45?
>>29472094
no, just carry more mags.
>>29472160
Did they ever try making double-stack 1911s? I recall seeing Norinco had a 10-rd 1911 clone out.
And are there limitations to the design? For example, I heard they can't be CC'd in Condition 1.
>>29472221
Oh yeah. Para Ordnance makes (made?) one called the P14.45 Gov't size with a 14 round capacity.
I remember that prominent Sewth Effriken operator Louis Awerbuck talked about carrying a double stack 1911 in .45 which boosted their popularity at one point.
Quite frankly, capacity isn't as big a problem as you'd expect for CC. Most defensive shootings are over in 2 or 3 shots.
>>29471426
I carry my Kimber, it was actually the first gun I bought specifically for carry. Its a Pro-Carry HD that I bought back in 2000. Its actually heavier than a full length gvt 1911 because of the barrel and guide rod. Its fucking heavy, but it carries well. If you don't mind the weight its more comfortable than my HK USPc, Glock 32, and FNS9. It's slimmer and its shape in general is more comfortable for IWB carry. That said it is fucking heavy, spare mags are also pretty heavy, but at least they slim so they fit about anywhere.
>>29471450
Why bother? Most engagements end after just showing the gun, and if i need more than 7 then i'm screwed anyway.
A 1911 is a nice choice for its slim profile but they are heavy even with a aluminum frame. I carry a new agent or a glock 43 IWB and a delta elite small of back. I'm in New York so having a high capacity (over 10 rounds) gun for carry is not really important if you can only put a 10 round mag in it. So I'm on the more power less rounds bandwagon because of that.
>>29472402
Do they make blank slides for New Agents? I think you know why I'm asking.
>>29472376
He meant holster clips you tard.
>>29472450
>backpedaling this hard
>>29471450
Can confirm that clip width makes a big difference in carry comfort.
Compare this (1/2)
>>29472450
I'm>>29471450, not >>29472450. but he's right, I meant holster clips. Why would magazines need to wide you fucking nigger tard?
Sadly no I'm looking at a Caspin slide I can order blank sided and have it engraved just right. Still trying to figure out the best finish to do it in.
>>29472490
To this (2/2)
It really helps in distributing the weight.
>>29472490
Can confirm, I used to CC a P250 compact with a single clip, nuked 2 belts in 6 months. Got a Hybrid IWB and my shitty pants, with my shitty belt don't sag, and it is loads more comfortable.
Now that shit is getting warm I'm back to my LCP and a desantis nemesis and softuck.
>>29472496
I dont know, some of us have moved on from the early 1900s? Glock mags etc gain double capacity from the stacking and the weight is barely perceptible. Which you wouldnt know as a noguns
>>29472598
>Weight is barely perceptible
>More than doubling the ammo carried
Dude, take your glock, and load 7/8 rounds in it, then put it in the gun. Then Fully load it and tell me it isn't noticeable. Hell I can tell how full my magazine is on all my guns just by picking them up. If you are having a hard time try wiggling the gun, the Center of gravity changes a shitload as you drain the mag.
Now I am not the guy you are responding to but ammo is heavy and noticeable, this isn't a video game, 250 rounds of 9mm is as heavy as a brick. Also fuck you 1911s are fucking amazing, I love my G19, but nothing compares to a nice 1911.
>>29472674
Its lighter than double stack 1911 which is what he was talking about dummy.
>>29472598
Lol learn to reading comprehension you fucking nigger.
Not OP, but I need help. I'm a thin guy, and I CC my 1911. Being poorfag, my holster is a Galco leather IWB, at 5oclock. Draw speed isn't bad with practice, and sometimes I just wear an over shirt with the undershirt tucked in, for faster/easier access. Am I missing anything without a "better" holster? Ive been of the mentality that a simple comfy piece of shit will work, with a lot of practice and knowing your weapon. Not a X amount of dollars holster will make you better kind out outlook. Practice, skill, and functionality. So...am I wrong? Do I need to upgrade? Is there a vast difference and improvement? Pic related. Carry gun and holster.
>>29474559
More expensive holsters, such as >>29472510
do have tangible benefits. Weight distribution, comfort and durability come to mind.
That being said, the magnitude of improvement varies from person to person. If possible I'd try to borrow or try out one of the more expensive ones and figure out for yourself if it's worth it.
Nothing more frustrating than spending $130 on a custom leather holster and getting Gatsby'd.
>>29474559
galco isnt shit its just kinda outdated they were cutting edge in the 70s
shit would be alien gear or uncle mikes
if your happy with your holster great but if you want to step it up you could
>>29471426
Carry my Ruger SR1911 at work all the time, suit and tie, usually wear a vest instead of a sports coat.... Shoulder holster the fucking hell out it and no one knows.
>>29471426
What brand of 1911 is in OPs pic?
>>29474559
...are you carrying hardball? Get some hollow-points, my man. Even cheap ones are better than FMJs in terms of stopping an attacker and having less risk of collateral damage.
>>29476288
You're not the first nor the last to ever mention this.
>>29471450
>clips
>>29476243
Reverse google says it's a Norinco
>>29471426
pros
>single stack
>tons of manufacturers make them, so parts are common
>now comes in different calibers and sizes. If you don't like the .45 Gov. you have options
>IMO one of the most comfortable pistols period
>contrary to popular belief, you don't need to drop $1000 for a good one
cons
>a little heavy
>lol only 8 rounds (but its a single stack)
>wont be as durable against sweat or holster wear as say a glock (most people like to keep their 1911s pretty)
>get called a FUD by somebody who thinks theyre opinion on what you do matters
I think its still a great carry option. There are things that are arguably better but it all comes down to preference and what you want. I switch my carry gun every now and then and still have a soft spot for the 1911
>>29471656
Its a single stack m8. there are plenty of other modern single stacks that don't get the "lol no capacity" hate. If youre concerned about capacity don't get a single stack
>>29477172
>lol only 8 rounds (but its a single stack)
>wont be as durable against sweat or holster wear
Caliber and frame dependant and finish wear depends on the finish. The rest of the points are pretty good though
Lightweight commander sized 9mms make pretty good guns IMO. I personally oy like to go so light to begin with.
>>29477172
Whats a good sub-1k 1911?
>>29478422
depends on what you want. frame size and caliber and all. Best to stick with the refutable brands though
colt, smith and Wesson, RIA, Springfield, some sig variants, ruger, Ithaca, Remington all make good 1911s for under a grand if you look at certain models. They all also make them for over a grand so just look around. The more basic (GI model) the cheaper in my experience
>>29477172
>wont be as durable against sweat or holster wear as say a glock
Cerakoted aluminum or stainless frame shouldn't have any problem holding up to sweat. granted any metal will oxidize if you leave it covered in sweat for 2 weeks straight without at least giving it a wipe.
1911 carriers: do you carry it round in chamber and hammer back? I don't have the balls to. If not, do you carry it hammer back empty chamber or round in with hammer forward?
The lack of da/sa on most 1911s seems to me to be the biggest problem with carrying them
>>29478422
At 1k, you can pretty much get any base, non custom 1911 on the market. I mean Pistols like Volkmann and Wilson are nice, but not enough to justify spending 3-4 times as much for the same pistol.
>Auto Ordnance
>Ruger SR-1911 (my pick)
>Rock Island
>Colt Series 70 in SS
>>29478479
>1911 carriers: do you carry it round in chamber and hammer back? I don't have the balls to. If not, do you carry it hammer back empty chamber or round in with hammer forward?
Why would you not carry with a round in the chamber?
>The lack of da/sa on most 1911s seems to me to be the biggest problem with carrying them
???
>>29478552
Series 70 pistols lack a firing pin safety. The gun could discharge if you tripped and fell on it or if dropped.
>>29478663
Anyone worth shit who makes a series 70 uses a titanium firing pin to make that impossible.
>>29478663
Go find me 5 documented cases of that happening. Some of my favorite guns happen to be DA/SA but I have no illusions of it being altogether unnecessary even with it's advantages.
You can carry a 1911 with a loaded chamber, hammer back and safety off and it'll be completely find as long as YOU don't pull the trigger because the gun has a grip safety. 80 series and Schwartz safeties are unnecessary and offer nothing over a titanium firing pin.
If you can't trust a condition 1 1911, you can't trust yourself with any gun
>>29471426
I'm a spooky scary skeleton and I carry a 1911 all day everyday in a Milt Sparks holster on a belt by same and a pair of extra magazines.
Absolutely no problems and I've never felt undergunned or underarmed.
>>29471562
>>29474559
I'd definitely recommend the higher grade holster. It seems expensive at the time, but a good holster can last 20+ years of constant use. Think of it as an investment.
>>29478663
You must not have played with a series 70 1911. The hammer cannot fall unless all the safeties are disengaged. The only way a 1911 would fire if dropped or fell on is if the firing pin somehow had enough inertia to fire the primer. Even with a steel firing pin you would have to throw it extremely hard and it land perfectly perpendicular to the firing pin.
This of course excludes out of spec or horrendously cheaply made 1911s.
Short/stout guy here. Used to carry a fullsize 1911, mainly because its what I had. IWB, 4 o'clock. Never had issues with printing.
There are better. The beavertail and hammer spur (or loop) tear up clothes, the gun is heavy, and I would generally prefer more than 8 or 9 rounds. Fullsize double stack 1911s are really too fat to carry even with very slim grip scales.
All that said, a commander sized 1911 that had been rounded off specifically for carry wouldnt be terrible. There are a couple of 10 round 9mm versions and if you want to stick with .45 theyre still 7 rounds.
I shoot 1911s extremely well. I do buy into the whole "the only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss" at least some, and want a carry pistol I shoot well.
