Alright, /k/. I've got $700 to blow on an AK-style rifle.
Which one and why?
I really liked the RAS-47, but the bolts are garbage so that's out of the question.
I just want something with rugged internals and reasonably accuracy (no canted sights).
Suggestions?
>>29459400
>reasonable accuracy
derp
WASR
it's cheap and it werks.
Or save up another week and get an Arsenal- at $700 it's what I'd do.
/thread
23" VEPR in 7.62x54R.
>>29459447
>>29459434
Thanks m8s. There's just so many fucking AK style rifles I didn't know where to start.
I'll probably go DDI/Arsenal
>>29459434
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/high-standard-ak47-hungarian-underfolder-bake-lite-style-detail.html?Itemid=0
What about this guy?
Never heard of "high-standard"
>>29459521
It's probably fine, High Standard is a decent company. Depends on if you like underfolders.
If you haven't shot one, I don't recommend them. They're sexy but really uncomfortable and a pain to shoot compared to wood/polymer
>>29459521
don't ever buy a literally who AK build
buy from a reputable manufacturer, and never buy US production
>>29459453
this
>>29459405
>>reasonable accuracy
>derp
Are you one of those "le AKs are innacurate!!!!!!!!!! XD" memers?
or is this just part of the april fools joke
>>29459547
I see what you're saying.
What about the triangular folding stocks like this? Plus, I hear good things about PAPs and Zastava.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/m92-ak47-krink-rifle-sunburst-orange-wood-detail.html?Itemid=0
Ras is garbage save yourself the hassle and buy a wasr 10
>>29459595
Aren't WASRs shit? Or have they gotten better?
What's your opinion on the palmeto produced aks I never hear anything about then
>>29459586
Those stocks are better, I still prefer the folding polymer or full tang wood.
and there's no way in hell I'd pay $1000 for a PAP, SBR and fake can or not.
I'd just get a 107FR
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/arsenal-slr107fr-31-762x39-side-folding-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
best iteration of 7.62x39 AK you can buy off the shelf in America imo
>>29459617
like RAS, but worse
>>29459607
they got better years ago
>>29459617
Bad
the first ones they made had bad headspacing
they use a lot of cast parts
Not worth the money
>>29459636
I got ahold of a new run of them seems like they got there shit together or who ever built it said fuck it I'm milling the parts
>>29459400
All of them.
/thread
>>29459623
Fug, I didn't even see that one.
Maybe you're right. another week or 2 for an Arsenal might not be a bad investment.
>>29459623
Damn, that's awesome It's got the folding stock AND optics rail.
>>29459400
Anyone have any thoughts on this High Standard?
I really like the way it looks.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/high-standard-ak47-hungarian-burgundy-wood-detail.html?Itemid=0
Is this the best deal I'm gonna find? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/cai-ak-47-wasr-10-7-62x39mm-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
>>29459743
yeah p much
The guy who runs Atlantic is bro-tier as fuck
>WASR went up another $25
fuckin hate Century Arms 2bh
>>29459586
>TFW Atlantic has started doing these carbines the way I've always wanted CNCWarrior to, but overcharging
CNCWarrior sells almost the exact same thing (Galil-style stock rather than Triangle) for like $750 bro.
Teebeeaitch I'd jump on the CNC one in an instant if it had a triangle on it. But a grand's too much IMO. Especially for something that's the same length as an SLR107FR.
Especially when you can pick up an M92 for $450, buy the parts to do the same thing yourself for like $250, attach the fake can, pin it and blind weld it, then tap the rear trunnion and put the stock on.
OR, shit, just get a folding mechanism adapter and put a Blade brace on the thing and retain the krink length. They don't look as good as a triangle folder, sure, but they don't look bad and they're cheap and functional.
>>29459607
If a WASR is shit an RAS47 is the vomit of a dog who ate its own shit but couldn't keep it down bro.
WASRs have been pretty solid guns for the better part of a decade.
>>29460048
I'm not saying the RAS is good. I specifically said I'm not even considering it haha.
I've just always heard WASR's aren't good in terms of build quality or accuracy.
But, I've never handled one. Plus, AKOU said they're internals are really robust so.
>>29459462
Just ordered a DDI AK74 the other day, good luck man.
>>29460024
>AK with an AR stock
I'm a little bit nauseous.
>>29460164
Any correctly-built 7.62x39 AK will be 2-3 MoA and not worth much outside 300 meters.
What you're paying for is fit and finish with more expensive rifles, basically.
>>29460182
>blade brace
>AR stock
Pick one, bro.
Again, braces are a compromise for dudes who want to retain the correct length on a Krink while also retaining its legal status as a pistol.
I'm just giving you options.
>>29459400
WASR. Spend whats left on ammo and mags. Or a Romy G stock.
>>29460399
If I were to get a WASR, would I be able to swap out the stock for an under/side folding one?
I'm guessing since it's an AK pattern, it's all somehwat modular.
>>29460420
no, it uses a different trunnion. There are adapters and stocks you can use but overall if you want a folder, buy a folder
and not all folders can be switched. Under folder trunnions aren't the same as side folders
>>29460420
>I'm guessing since it's an AK pattern, it's all somehwat modular.
You could not possibly be more wrong about that.
>>29459585
he was correcting a spelling mistake
>>29459550
What's wrong with US productions?
>>29460667
foreign productions are generally better, due to the heavy industry oriented manufacturing process for the AK
All the money has been spent in Commieland to make proper mil-spec AKs, doing the same thing in the US would be phenomenally expensive
>>29460667
nothing categorically, but they tend to be shite, but the movement is towards better rifles
PSA switched form cast to milled trunions, Century unfucked the C39 with the v2, PSAK and RAS47 both use melonited barrels
but all of those have or had problems
>>29459400
Fuck, it's like no one rifle has the features I'm looking for.
the CAI AK63D's look good in terms of reliability, but they don't have a treated barrel, and they have a U.S. receiver.
Same story with the M70ABM's. Looks like a good rifle, but has an American reciever.
DDI looks like the best bet, but I can't find a milled one w/ a folding stock.
>>29460781
WASR
A
S
R
Also the Zastava-made M70s (OPAP, NPAP, NPAP-DF), while they don't have chromed barrels, are still beefy AF.
>>29460781
>falling for the milled receiver memes
>heavier gun that isn't appreciably stronger
>>29460837
Do they have WASR's with folding stocks?
If you couldn't tell, I'm quite partial to the folding stocks.
I do like how cheap the WASR is...could buy a drum mag with the extra $$
>>29460847
shut up nignog no one cares about your opinions
>>29459400
Get an IMI galil. It's one of the weapons that really makes the platform shine.
>>29459400
DDI. Arsenal has the benefits of being imported, a CHF barrel, and have AK-100 style side folding stocks, but they don't hold a candle to DDI's customer service if something goes wrong and DDI has a much better finish.
Both are in the same ball park accuracy wise.
DDI however is around $200-300 cheaper.
How about the M92 Krink rifles?
>>29459447
>no options for above $1,000
Pretty shit graph t b h famarino
>>29460988
Was looking at those. But another anon had a good point:
they're essentially a $500 AK pistol with a fake suppressor and folding stock for like $950. That's the price of a new Arsenal.
I really like them too, honestly. But I would probably just get a normal M92 pistol, buy a stock, and get it SBR'd. Then you don't have to have the fake can.
>>29460988
Already gave a rundown of those in >>29460024
>>29460909
>Do they have WASR's with folding stocks?
You could put a Romy wire folder on one. They're goofy-looking and not too comfortable but they fold and drop into fixed-stock AKs.
>>29460837
>>29460847
>shut up nignog no one cares about your opinions
Joke's on you retard you've asked for my advice ITT several times.
Milled receivers a shit, bro. No real corresponding benefit for the added weight. Your grandkids might notice a difference but all you're ever feel is the extra weight.
>>29461093
Wouldn't the corresponding benefit be the fact that it's made out of one piece of material?
It seems that would translate into longevity.
Am I missing something?
I can see the weight argument, but how much weight are we talking? Like half a pound?
Since there doesn't seem to be much of a price difference, why shouldn't I go for milled? Just weight?
>>29461199
Only reason any milled AKs exist at all is because the Soviets couldn't get their shit together logistically to crank out stamped guns. And as soon as they COULD reliably make stamped guns, they never looked back.
So yeah, a milled gun is theoretically stronger than a stamped gun. But the stamped gun is ridiculously fucking strong in the first place. That's what I meant by the "grandkids" thing.
It's pretty fucking unlikely you're gonna be able to even afford enough ammo to put through a properly-built stamped AK to fuck it up. Like, unless you're running some bullshit like an RAS that gun will keep on trucking your whole life. You will not ever notice a difference between a milled and stamped gun in terms of performance. One will simply be heavier and immediately visually-identifiable as having been made by a manufacturer who couldn't crank out a proper AKM.
Pretty much every single argument for milled over stamped comes down to fuddlore.
>>29461199
There's a reason no guns on anybody's AK buyers' guide are milled.
Milled guns are for gullible retards.
>>29461284
Yea, I'm reading that now.
So...I should go for a stamped, ideally on a non-US receiver/barrel?
I'm getting closer
>>29461308
WASR
A
S
R
>>29461093
>>29460024
Have to be 21 to buy "pistols" here. I'd do that if I could.
>>29461333
FUCK OK
>>29459694
High Standard makes AKs now? Sweet
>>29461462
Someone earlier said they're a shit but apparently they're from Texas and made pistols for OSS in WW2.
Good reviews too. Although it looks like they used to use Polish, but are now using Hungarian parts. At least the one I was looking at.
>>29461490
I'm seeing shit reviews from about 7 years ago but it appears at some point they stepped their game up since from 2012 on they've got positive feedback.
Now, if money were no issue... None at all, what are the cons to a VEPR build? Can one convert a VEPR AK to take AK mags? From where I'm sitting, the RPK receiver + barrel descriptions, sound like the overall route to long term durability. Amirite? Commieforniafag here, former guns-turned-nofuns-cuck. Looking for a long term investment that I can have feels when it comes to my inherent trust issues.
Also, how does the SVD clone VEPR build compare in any/every category you can bring to mind?
>>itt Too lazy to look for /akg/ this thread now about VEPR
>>calicucks only good for IPA's and no funs questions
>>drink Sierra Nevada IPA's yep that's all we're good for anymore
>>29459400
Real talk: Buy a PAP
>>29462990
Cons to a vepr:
If you restore it, unless you hunt down a squareback, you're gonna have an adapter to fill the gap.
RPK weight
Front heavy
Yes they can be modded to take standard mags.
The "SVD" pattern is just a vague lookalike set of furniture and a flash hider on a normal x54r vepr.
>>29460909
HEY NOW
>>29460909
/mu/ here
based
>>29460909
Why'd you basically force Brian to stick to the formula?
>>29460909
B E A C H B O Y S
>>29460909
MIKE LOVE, NOT WAR
>>29464558
ITS A
>>29464662
LOVE THANG
>>29463822
Sorry, must discount everything you said.
>>Latasha
>>nigger in in my /k/
Weight was never an issue, as I'm not a girlyman.
VEPR claims better accuracy than a PSL.
>>29464822
Kek.
Ok Latasha.
>Talk shit about niggers
>Is a nigger
>>29460909
WELL ITS A LOVE THING
>>29460909
I CAN'T WAIT TILL SUMMER
>>29460909
HEY NOW
>>29460909
DON'T MESS WITH THE FORMULA
>>29460909
FUCK YOU
>>29459400
I would very highly recommend buying a used Norinco MAK 90 if possible. They are all over gunbroker and chink AKs are absolutely my favorite.
All of them.
>>29460909
posting in le epin thread
>>29460909
fuck you Mike
>>29460909
LITTLE DEUCE COUPE
